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jaysay 21-03-2008 09:08

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 549426)
I think Greg's response was very good. Not entirely my view but one that can be respected. Peter's letter. Well it's just as Greg said.

Peter got 12,000 votes and Greg 18,000 at the last General election. For me the letters reflect people's view of both candidates. Peter has his supporters, Greg has his. Peter clearly needs to be a lot more committed to Hyndburn, and stop being dishonest if he is to seriously do a better job than Greg.

In his leaders column this week Peter was at it again telling more lies about Labour*. He will never get past 12,000 votes IMHO whilst he has that attitude.

* Labour tabled on simple budget amendment - Council Tax 2% - it was defeated and the Conservatives voted through their 5% rise instead. The Labour 40 ideas - many cost little or nothing, policy reviews, new code of conduct for Councillors, changing all of the committee structure to stop the sleaze and corruption. All of it was within a smaller budget than the Conservatives.

On the spending side, most or nearly all them involved the spending of an extra £4m the Government has given Hyndburn - not current expenditure. Peter knew this because I told him but thought he could get some extra votes by misleading the public. Deja Vu every year. Last year he made up scare stories about Rubbish Tax and Car Parking Charges. It's funny at times (when it's not depressing). Like living in an African banana republic, no matter what the dictator does he get's elected.

Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap

jaysay 21-03-2008 09:09

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 549427)
and jaysay......what's your answer (forget others - you've got a big mouth so let's hear it)... public subsidy???????? or market forces???????.....:hidewall::hidewall::hidewall:

Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap,

jaysay 21-03-2008 09:10

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 549431)
Heh Jaysay... given all the noise your lot are making on this here in Hyndburn... how come Hyndburn Council is not one the Councils that has applied ?????? :theband::theband:

Is Clr Britcliffe committing the Council to spending up to £72,000 (and beyond with recruitment of new postmasters) propping up the 4 closures? You said Tories will save them .... how??? You have an opportunity to make a positive decision and back up your words. :hidewall:

COUNCILS GIVEN GREEN LIGHT TO SAVE POST OFFICES
Post Office managers must co-operate fully with innovative plans by local councils to save their local branches from closure, ministers said today. More than 50 councils now want to save threatened branches, offering rescue packages of £18,000 per branch over three years from council tax receipts. Sir Simon Milton (Conservative), chairman of the LGA, was quoted: “It is a huge step in the right direction that the Minister has instructed Post Office Limited to enter into discussions with councils who have put forward proposals to save some of their local branches.
Telegraph p8, Guardian p14, FT p2, Express p2
MP rebellion fails to stop post office closures - Telegraph

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn

panther 21-03-2008 09:12

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you should go to bed if ya tired jaysay........:D

jaysay 21-03-2008 09:50

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 549447)
you should go to bed if ya tired jaysay........:D

Its just Cllr Jones that sends me to sleep panther:rolleyes:

garinda 21-03-2008 10:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 549400)
No comment on Greg voting for post office closures then Rindi:hidewall:


Since it's apparent to anyone who has bothered to read this thread, that I'm not in favour of unprofitable Post Offices being supoorted with tax payer's money ad infinitum, I didn't think a comment is necessary, but if you insist...

Well done Greg Pope, for doing what you believe to be right, and not listening to the hysterical mob.

That do you?

jaysay 21-03-2008 10:16

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 549465)
Since it's apparent to anyone who has bothered to read this thread, that I'm not in favour of unprofitable Post Offices being supoorted with tax payer's money ad infinitum, I didn't think a comment is necessary, but if you insist...

Well done Greg Pope, for doing what you believe to be right, and not listening to the hysterical mob.

That do you?

Never expected you to say out else Rindi, :rolleyes:

garinda 21-03-2008 10:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 549468)
Never expected you to say out else Rindi, :rolleyes:


So the reason you asked was?

Strange all these Conservatives shouting that they want public money to be used to keep unprofitable businesses open, when for nearly twenty years Mrs Thatcher insisted just the opposite, when she privatised so many other services and industries, because she said they were haemorrhaging tax payer's money.

garinda 21-03-2008 10:27

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Unlike a lot of people in this thread, I have no political axe to grind.

I am not, and never have been, a member of any political party.

I just say what I think to be right, and in this case I think those that voted with the government were right.

onlyme 21-03-2008 11:34

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 549431)
Heh Jaysay... given all the noise your lot are making on this here in Hyndburn... how come Hyndburn Council is not one the Councils that has applied ?????? :theband::theband:

Is Clr Britcliffe committing the Council to spending up to £72,000 (and beyond with recruitment of new postmasters) propping up the 4 closures? You said Tories will save them .... how??? You have an opportunity to make a positive decision and back up your words. :hidewall:

COUNCILS GIVEN GREEN LIGHT TO SAVE POST OFFICES
Post Office managers must co-operate fully with innovative plans by local councils to save their local branches from closure, ministers said today. More than 50 councils now want to save threatened branches, offering rescue packages of £18,000 per branch over three years from council tax receipts. Sir Simon Milton (Conservative), chairman of the LGA, was quoted: “It is a huge step in the right direction that the Minister has instructed Post Office Limited to enter into discussions with councils who have put forward proposals to save some of their local branches.
Telegraph p8, Guardian p14, FT p2, Express p2
MP rebellion fails to stop post office closures - Telegraph

Maybe I'm missing something, but why the personal vendetta against Jaysay??? Other voting members of public are also adding to this thread, but you only seem to show an interest in his posts...

...Do the rest of us not matter?

cashman 21-03-2008 13:53

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 549515)
Maybe I'm missing something, but why the personal vendetta against Jaysay??? Other voting members of public are also adding to this thread, but you only seem to show an interest in his posts...

...Do the rest of us not matter?

Probably cos there both Members of opposite Parties, usually helps:D;)

jaysay 21-03-2008 13:57

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 549515)
Maybe I'm missing something, but why the personal vendetta against Jaysay??? Other voting members of public are also adding to this thread, but you only seem to show an interest in his posts...

...Do the rest of us not matter?

If Cllr Jones won't answer you onlyme, i'll try to. If you don't know I'm well known for being a member of the Tory Party, and was very much involved with Council Leader Peter Britcliffe, as his campaign manager and his work in Ossy. However due to very poor health I stepped down from front line politics some seven years ago, but the lovely Graham seems to think I'm talking to PB every day, the truth is I have not seen Peter since May Day last year, and have talked to him around 5 times since then, mainly about our support of BRFC as we are both lie long fans. The bottom line is i'm not really interested politically any more, but some of the tripe spouted on her by our Graham, justs tends to turn the clock back a little. Graham thinks he is Mr. Infallible, but to my way of thinking there was only ever one person who was worthy of that title and its around 2008 years today since the Romans crucified him on Calvery. After that onlyme if you can work out where Cllr. Jones is coming from please let me know, I would find it very enlightening:confused:

WalkOnBRFC 21-03-2008 14:03

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 549515)
Maybe I'm missing something, but why the personal vendetta against Jaysay??? Other voting members of public are also adding to this thread, but you only seem to show an interest in his posts...

...Do the rest of us not matter?

You can't always get on with everyone but they both need to grow up with petty squabbles and one liners here and there.. Jaysay is just as bad so he needn't pretend to be whiter than white. If you didn't reply to each others posts and agree to disagree then maybe that might be a start. Our both respect that you both have different opinions.

onlyme 21-03-2008 14:35

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 549589)
If Cllr Jones won't answer you onlyme, i'll try to. If you don't know I'm well known for being a member of the Tory Party, and was very much involved with Council Leader Peter Britcliffe, as his campaign manager and his work in Ossy. However due to very poor health I stepped down from front line politics some seven years ago, but the lovely Graham seems to think I'm talking to PB every day, the truth is I have not seen Peter since May Day last year, and have talked to him around 5 times since then, mainly about our support of BRFC as we are both lie long fans. The bottom line is i'm not really interested politically any more, but some of the tripe spouted on her by our Graham, justs tends to turn the clock back a little. Graham thinks he is Mr. Infallible, but to my way of thinking there was only ever one person who was worthy of that title and its around 2008 years today since the Romans crucified him on Calvery. After that onlyme if you can work out where Cllr. Jones is coming from please let me know, I would find it very enlightening:confused:



Ahhhhhhhhh. Now I understand and must apologise for being a little 'numb' on the backgrounds lol

jaysay 21-03-2008 14:41

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Originally Posted by WalkOnBRFC (Post 549591)
You can't always get on with everyone but they both need to grow up with petty squabbles and one liners here and there.. Jaysay is just as bad so he needn't pretend to be whiter than white. If you didn't reply to each others posts and agree to disagree then maybe that might be a start. Our both respect that you both have different opinions.

I ain't going to reply to young Graham again Walkon, I'll leave him to the young Cyfr:hitting8:


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