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garinda 10-04-2008 15:43

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 560095)
you still cannot deny that many people GAINED from this policy and are now on the property ladder thanks to such scheme.


The people who haven't gained are the hundreds of thosands of people in the country who have no chance of getting social housing, because the stock is so depleted since it was sold off by the Conservatives, and now are forced to rent in the private sector, from the many rip-off landlords.

Conservatism, by it's very nature, conserves for the few.

You don't need to have lived under Thatcher's government to understand that basin concept.

blazey 10-04-2008 15:48

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 560097)
The people who haven't gained are the hundreds of thosands of people in the country who have no chance of getting social housing, because the stock is so depleted since it was sold off by the Conservatives, and now are forced to rent in the private sector, from the many rip-off landlords.

Conservatism, by it's very nature, conserves for the few.

You don't need to have lived under Thatcher's government to understand that basin concept.

I have lived in both council housing and private renting and I know which one I prefer. So unfortunately I cannot appreciate the negativity you obviously feel from it. Since living in private rented accomodation we have been able to live in a much nicer area, with much less crime and a bigger house. The landlord isn't the best but landlords have duties by law, and so unless you are unaware of your rights, then there should be no problem. I am sure the council are more than happy to inform people of their rights, and they also monitor how much rent they are charging too so it is very hard to fall into trouble even in the private sector when you are claiming benefits to pay the rent.

garinda 10-04-2008 15:48

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 560095)
Does anybody have any good reason NOT to vote Conservative in the next elections?

Anything endorsed by you is a good reason in my book.;)

blazey 10-04-2008 15:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 560101)
Anything endorsed by you is a good reason in my book.;)

I endorse that people should vote for the party that they genuinely feel will represent themselves. It isn't my job to persuade people to vote Conservative, as it seems Labour are currently doing a good enough job.

It will not bother me if Labour win in the elections, I will still support the Conservatives. If the only reason you can think of for not voting Conservative is my views then that is sad indeed.

garinda 10-04-2008 15:58

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For all the good work Cyfr does for the party he supports, there's thankfully always someone who'll come along and undo it.:)

blazey 10-04-2008 16:05

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 560108)
For all the good work Cyfr does for the party he supports, there's thankfully always someone who'll come along and undo it.:)

I'm not a politician, I am part of the electorate, therefore I do not see why you think my opinion matters so much to everyone else? I am not a political campaign, therefore I do not ask you to vote on MY beliefs as a person.

andrewb 13-04-2008 01:47

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Still waiting.....:confused:

Also can anyone link me to the report regarding the 5% reserves?

Neil 13-04-2008 03:13

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 561413)
Still waiting.....:confused:

Also can anyone link me to the report regarding the 5% reserves?


You posted that at 2.47 am, I hope your plan is not to keep waiting till he posts mate.

Get some sleep , AccyWeb will still be here in the morning. :rolleyes:

blazey 13-04-2008 06:28

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561417)
You posted that at 2.47 am, I hope your plan is not to keep waiting till he posts mate.

Get some sleep , AccyWeb will still be here in the morning. :rolleyes:

He went to sleep don't worry ;) some people didn't though...

andrewb 13-04-2008 07:41

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561417)
You posted that at 2.47 am, I hope your plan is not to keep waiting till he posts mate.

Get some sleep , AccyWeb will still be here in the morning. :rolleyes:

I can handle the 3am watershed don't worry!

blazey 13-04-2008 07:48

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 561430)
I can handle the 3am watershed don't worry!

Funnily enough that is the time a drunken young man rang me this morning. :rolleyes:

Neil 13-04-2008 13:33

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 561424)
He went to sleep don't worry ;) some people didn't though...

Who might the some people be then?

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 561432)
Funnily enough that is the time a drunken young man rang me this morning.

Was he after a jump? Tell him to save the money on beer next time and just stick a bag on your head. :eek::p:rolleyes::D

cashman 13-04-2008 13:56

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561542)
Who might the some people be then?



Was he after a jump? Tell him to save the money on beer next time and just stick a bag on your head. :eek::p:rolleyes::D

thats very unfair neil- he had to be drunk.:D;)

shillelagh 13-04-2008 14:01

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561542)
Tell him to save the money on beer next time and just stick a bag on your head. :eek::p:rolleyes::D

Plastic or paper? :D

andrewb 13-04-2008 14:07

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 561566)
Plastic or paper? :D

I don't want to get clobbered with a 5p tax!

shillelagh 13-04-2008 14:48

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 561568)
I don't want to get clobbered with a 5p tax!


Cheapskate :eek:

Neil 13-04-2008 15:22

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 561566)
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561542)
Was he after a jump? Tell him to save the money on beer next time and just stick a bag on your head. :eek::p:rolleyes::D

Plastic or paper? :D

That depends if his is into erotic asphyxiation or is just pretending she is someone else :rolleyes::D

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 561568)
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 561566)
Plastic or paper? :D

I don't want to get clobbered with a 5p tax!

Are you telling us that you and Michelle are together now? :confused:

blazey 13-04-2008 19:21

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561611)
Are you telling us that you and Michelle are together now? :confused:

I didn't realise you and I were on a first name basis. Obviously I call you Neil, but that is because you have chosen to be recognised by that name in public. I on the other hand didn't realise you and I had such a personal relationship, nevermind Cyfr and I.

shillelagh 13-04-2008 21:10

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 561568)
I don't want to get clobbered with a 5p tax!

Ok i'll donate to you a tesco or asda bag - your not getting my m&s ones though. Mind you i could find you an iceland one if need be....:p

Neil 13-04-2008 21:54

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 561765)
I didn't realise you and I were on a first name basis. Obviously I call you Neil, but that is because you have chosen to be recognised by that name in public. I on the other hand didn't realise you and I had such a personal relationship, nevermind Cyfr and I.

I am just naturally friendly

blazey 14-04-2008 00:13

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561862)
I am just naturally friendly

Very much like chat room policy, what happens in my real life stays off the public boards too :)

I didn't sleep, I stayed up all night, though I was only studying.

Neil 14-04-2008 08:45

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 561914)
I didn't sleep, I stayed up all night, though I was only studying.

I thought student life was all booze and sex. I am glad I did not do the Uni bit after my A levels and got a proper job instead ;)

blazey 14-04-2008 20:53

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 561946)
I thought student life was all booze and sex. I am glad I did not do the Uni bit after my A levels and got a proper job instead ;)

Booze, sex AND studying... some times all at the same time :o

Lilly 14-04-2008 20:55

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 562315)
Booze, sex AND studying... some times all at the same time :o


Be careful.....you don't want your textbooks all sticking together. ;):D

blazey 14-04-2008 21:10

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 562318)
Be careful.....you don't want your textbooks all sticking together. ;):D

Funnily enough the last few chapters of my EU text book are all stuck together :p how did you know?

jaysay 15-04-2008 09:50

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 562328)
Funnily enough the last few chapters of my EU text book are all stuck together :p how did you know?

its the way you tell um blazey:D

blazey 15-04-2008 14:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 562478)
its the way you tell um blazey:D

Unfortunately it's stuck together because I spilled an entire can of coke all over it one night.

Nickelson 15-04-2008 15:45

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The whole 500ml :eek:

andrewb 17-04-2008 11:14

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I'm still waiting for a response g jones

jaysay 17-04-2008 11:18

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 563844)
I'm still waiting for a response g jones

Shoooooooooosh he's out canvassing

garinda 17-04-2008 18:52

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 563848)
Shoooooooooosh he's out canvassing

According to this weekend's Observer, Britcliffes's gagged him.

Sounds kinky.:eek::D

jaysay 18-04-2008 09:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 564000)
According to this weekend's Observer, Britcliffes's gagged him.

Sounds kinky.:eek::D

Well some body should, easy to tell when elections are afoot, Jones starts coming out with all the crap, a very desperate man me thinks:dummy:

andrewb 27-04-2008 01:06

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Well i am STILL waiting for a response. I hope he responds quicker to his residents!

garinda 27-04-2008 01:10

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 568216)
Well i am STILL waiting for a response. I hope he responds quicker to his residents!

Graham is probably busy attending to the needs of the people in his ward...of which you're not one.

Until he starts a thread like your's, requesting political questions, you must be patient, for patience is a virtue.;)

jaysay 27-04-2008 08:53

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 568217)
Graham is probably busy attending to the needs of the people in his ward...of which you're not one.

Until he starts a thread like your's, requesting political questions, you must be patient, for patience is a virtue.;)

Often found in Women, but seldom in men:D

garinda 27-04-2008 11:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 568251)
Often found in Women, but seldom in men:D


Who?

Oh, virtue.

Phew.

andrewb 27-04-2008 18:25

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I do get the distinct impression he's avoiding this thread! I guess I'll have to wait until 2nd May.

g jones 27-04-2008 19:21

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Originally Posted by Cyfr (Post 568434)
I do get the distinct impression he's avoiding this thread! I guess I'll have to wait until 2nd May.

No I am not. I have been round Peel Ward. Doing something positive for other people. That's my first priority and your my last priority.

g jones 27-04-2008 19:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 556574)
And remember when Labour left office there was a deficit

No there wasn't. That is not true. THe Council is NOT ALLOWED to not balance the books. It's illegal and as a former Councillor (I think?) and political know it all, I'd expect you knew that but are concealing it.

In the Tories first quarter there was a 450k overspend. (ie a potential £1.8m deficit). Labour's year end books were straight. Fact.

andrewb 27-04-2008 21:00

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 568454)
No I am not. I have been round Peel Ward. Doing something positive for other people. That's my first priority and your my last priority.

Three weeks on and he's still not managed to give me an answer. I now understand why people use the term 'typical politician'.

It is however nice to know that the Shadow Leader of the Council only cares about his own ward, saving his own skin, and is not concerned with the questions of the rest of the borough.

If Graham Jones gets in could the last person to leave please turn the light out?

jaysay 28-04-2008 09:49

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 568455)
No there wasn't. That is not true. THe Council is NOT ALLOWED to not balance the books. It's illegal and as a former Councillor (I think?) and political know it all, I'd expect you knew that but are concealing it.

In the Tories first quarter there was a 450k overspend. (ie a potential £1.8m deficit). Labour's year end books were straight. Fact.

Glade to see your not always right Graham, I've never been a councillor, that was my former wife Sandra. As for the deficit or whatever you want to call it there was £1.8 million black hole, which the Tories have now sorted and the finances are now on sound footings again (say the audit commision not me)and going from strength to strength and even you should applaud that, but you won't:rolleyes:


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