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I would jump on Less if he acted in anyway as irresponsible as you do when you post about folk you know nothing about.

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Aye, of course it does

Marihuanaanbauer flüchtet mit Sprung aus dem Fenster

(Translation)

Marijuana grower escapes by jumping out the window

Friday the 13th really was a bad day for the 47 year old

After a house search the police found 28 cannabis plants & 30 grams of marijuana.

After tip offs & investigation, the Police of Poing had suspicions about the man from Forstinning growing illegal cannabis. As the Police turned up on Friday with a warrant to search his house, the 47 year old refused to open the door so the Police forced an entry.

At this point the cannabis grower jumped out of the window of his first floor flat (approx 3 mtrs above ground) & ran off. He removed his red T-shirt to avoid identification by the Police, without success. A few moments later, he was apprehended by the Police & arrested. The "Kripo" Erding are now investigating the case of illegal growing of cannabis plants.

The court case is the 19th of March & as the lads got previous & hasn't been attending his rehabilitation courses he'll more than likely be going down.

So these benefits then, he's lost his flat. looking at a jail stretch, has caused untold upset & aggravation to his family, who've tried to help him but he's now turning on them, he's made himself unemployable to any prospective employer, not that there's likely to be many as he hasn't managed to keep a job down his whole lousy 47 years .........

And all that, due to a poxy habit that you would have us believe is harmless!

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And here's another benefit. Now that it is legal in Alaska, Sarah Palin might get into it ... and her ramblings will be even more hilarious.:alright: Come to think of it she can't get much weirder ... if she smoked enough of it, she might realize that a "600 lb. elephant" isn't all that big. Hardly more than a newborn.

Oh, and "skunk" doesn't really smell like a skunk. Anyone who has ever smelled a skunk, driven over one, or been sprayed will agree with me.:D

Thank god ... yes, Kevin, occasionally I do ... I live in a country where we don't get too intense about mickey mouse shiite like weed. Or too intense about anything except hockey.;) By the way, the Medicine Hat Tigers are having a decent season, third in the WHL; and they have enough points to put them in the playoffs.:dancedog:

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I know enough about the effects of alcohol to know some folk act like Richards with their heads up their own backsides when intoxicated:-
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...own-49212.html

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Yes a bit of Tomfoolery hardly anything to be concerned with compared to your daily input?[emoji5]

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Ah, the good old days, when folk could extract the pee without DH's like you interfering, 6 pages of calling and yet not calling each other names, then folk like you with no sense of humour or computer skills were allowed to use the web.

Bring back DOS or window's 95, guaranteed you could never have worked them out!
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Nah, back then you would have done what you do now, complain because life passes your brain cell by.
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Hmmm, you haven't answered, is this because you have no answer? I can't imagine that to be the case, even though you have been on site for quite some time, could it be that at last you are actually THINKING, instead of just replying? I do hope so.

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We can all live in hope :p

Sorry L, I've been a little busy,what with the latest Beano edition and watching life pass me by I simply couldn't find the time to reply.

Let's try keep on topic and refrain from bickering about input into the site,You was using that old hocus pocus in the good old days,i can only assume you've no real interest in the topic and are trying to stir the pot? :rolleyes:

Now,the point I was trying to make is, getting stoned and reading the Beano,generally watching life pass by (the things you imagine I do) is much more preferable IMO to going the local pub,getting blitzed,verbally abusing taxi drivers and folk in general then waking up under a blanket of vomit wearing nothing but your own shame....but hey,you carry on peeing your life against the wall and I'll carry on being a responsible cannabis user.

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So I take it then, by your 'Perceived Knowledge' you are a pharmacist? Or a Biomedical Scientist? or at least have some Medical training? after all you are telling us all that we are wrong and you're right.

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No,what I'm am telling you is, cannabis effects different folk in different ways and you don't need a degree in chemistry or medicine to know that....


....Come to think of it,folk did attribute the nickname Dr greenthumb to me in my younger years...Hmmm

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You just don't get it do you ... I can't think of anyone on here who appreciates being "told" ... I know that a statement beginning like this sure rattles the [deleted] outa my cage.

This "discussion" has, in my opinion anyway, run its course. If we want to discuss the ill effects of something that gives many folks pleasure, we could always discuss bacon butties and obesity, or, better still, oral sex and throat cancer.:rolleyes:

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So that's a NO then is it. Look, I have absolutely no problem if you want to take illicit substances that's up to you. However, unless you grow your own, how do you know what the purity of what you are taking, or if it has been cut with some nasty toxin?
You are directly funding organised crime by buying this stuff and maybe even helping terrorists, who knows.
so please don't come on here exhaulting the virtues of a substance you cannot vouch for with ANY scientific knowledge.

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Tonight at 10pm on Channel 4 live program about Cannabis use!

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OMG! Deja vu.

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Or, as Yogi Berra said, "It's like deja vu all over again.";)

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I'm not trying to be patronise anyone E,it just rattles my cage when folk from across the pond "brag" about there use of a certain drug and everyone's fine with that due to the legality of it,but yet someone who uses that same drug in the uk are the next best thing to a smack head....


....rather a double standard don't you think? :rolleyes:

I look forward to your pleasures thread,it should make a interesting read ;)

The answers to your questions are in my previous comments,in short it's through personal experience,I can tell if it's been cut with crap by looking at it.
How do you know the purity of a pint in the local pub?
How do you know it's not watered down or topped up with dregs from the previous night?

Like I've mentioned previously,It's only through the legality of cannabis in the uk that keeps it in the hands of criminals (and perhaps terrorists).
That's why it should be legalised and regulated (like alcohol) to keep it as safe as possible for folk like me :D

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No, those talking about it "from across the pond" mention it in passing, more of an aside than as a direct statement of intent! Which I personally find rather foolish especially within UK.

Oh & further to my post #202, the character in question has now reached new depths due to his "habit", demanding money & threatening violence & arson, nice.

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I don't drink beer, only Vodka and I am very picky about which brand I drink, Grey Goose mainly, and always drink it neat.
If the majority of the population wanted Cannabis to be legal, I am sure it would be.
Having said that, i see North Korea is one of the few places its legal, maybe thats why they are so mad?

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Well I don't smoke resin,only skunk,I'm very particular about the strains too sativa's mainly however I don't smoke it neat which is probably more detrimental to my health.
Maybe it would be legal if more folk realised it not the Devils drig it's made out to be?
Here is a study from Harvard:-
Harvard: Marijuana Doesn?t Cause Schizophrenia | Psych Central News

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But there is a difference between "wanting" and "preferring" ... Even in BC, legalization, or decriminalization won't feature large in any political party's platform. Well, maybe the Marijuana Party of Canada ... but they have as much chance of winning as the "Save Your Throat, Don't Go Down Party.";) However, I strongly suspect that all mainstream political parties have figured it out, down to the last nickle, how much extra tax revenue they can raise.

It's not an issue, at least not a big one ... except for one person on here, who seems intent on doing nothing more than agitating the feces.

And now for a musical interlude:;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6QkVTx2d88

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Now that we've got the "user" lynching out of the way.....This is for those who wish to discuss this "non issue" a bit further....

...There is a 'gateway Hypothesis',many folk believe that cannabis leads to harder drugs but,is cannabis really a "gateway drug" anymore than say alcohol or nicotine?

Surely, just because most smack heads might of tried cannabis does not mean most cannabis users will end up smack heads.

Below are a few cannabis news articles (for those who are interested):-

'Legalised weed would change lives': Meet Jacob Barrow, representing political party Cannabis Is Safer Than Alcohol in the general election - People - News - The Independent

UK should begin decriminalising drugs, say Richard Branson and Nick Clegg | Politics | The Guardian

Nick Clegg says 'Let people smoke cannabis for medical problems' | Daily Mail Online

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We've had lengthy discussions about this previously with Kestrelx. Do we really need to go over the same old ground?

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Search Legalise "Illegal" Drugs, read that (all 99 pages) and then decide if there is anything new to say.

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Maybe there's a link to this new survey too :D

New Irish Penis Study Shows North Koreans Have Smallest | Heavy.com

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I didn't even know my parents were from the Republic of Congo :)

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You sat on your booster seat checking with a tape measure has given me the Heebie Jeebies AccyX ;)

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where do i start measuring from? :p

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Brazzaville maybe ?

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The program confirmed what I said. Albeit more clearly...

I didn't know Sativa was proper cannabis?

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What do you class as "proper cannabis"?

To my knowledge there are two forms of cannabis (sativa and indica) sativia's usually produce more CBD one of the two principal components of cannabis giving a euphoric high.....were as indica strains produce more yield and more of the (mind altering) THC component.

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What is the legal high with similar name?

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Preferably it wont be discussed here due to the "legality" of it. Absolutely disgusting that kids might read about it and think its ok to do because its "legal" nevermind the fact these legal highs are far worse, and in some cases very dangerous

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all the legal high drugs are dangerous they are not regulated and even the people who sell them dont know whats in them

government needs to act better and faster to these so called legal highs and start dishing out long prison sentences and fines big enough to put people selling them out fo buisness for good

these so called legal highs can kill on their first use yet shops in our town center could sell them

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But this has never worked before ... and it won't work in the future. There has to be another way. Wars on drugs don't work.

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as of yet i am unaware of newsagents and various other retail shops openly selling cocaine to children with the governemts blessing which is what is happening with these new so called legal highs

wars on drugs would work if appropiate action was taken towards dealers and supplyers

stop pussy footing around and give them life in prison.They ruin hundreds of lives so make the punishment fit the crime

if that dosnt work get harsher and harsher until it does

its just apitty we dont have one of those electric chairs made for bad people

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Ensure they took/injected/snorted/smoked the entirety of the shiite they're peddling themselves in one hit seems like appropriate action to me! They could then fully enjoy the benefits of their offerings themselves .... for an extremely short period to be sure, but with no long term cost to the tax payer.

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oddly enough dave thats the course of tretament i would give drug addicts

one final ride of their pathetic lives

looks like we have found an all in one treatment for addicts and dealers

probbably seems harsh to some ?

they can get back to me when an elderly member of their family has their life changed for the worse because some idiot chose to take up drugs and made their problem everyone elses problem

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Know the sentiment brother, know the sentiment.

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A GP once informed me that he used to take magic mushrooms when he was at medical school.

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to be honest with the hours doctors are supposed to work especially hospital doctors it wouldnt suprise me if some took anphetamines

in mo prude iv tried resin when at a party and got boulder burns on my t-shirt and it tatsted crap and had no effect worthy of mention and iv tried bud canbis is amsterdam which did have a very profound effect that im in no hurry to re experience

my point is a lot of people have experimented with illigal substances or tried the occassional spliff but what a lot of people dont do is take it to extreem , become addicted , steal from anyone including vulnerable people and then expect the world to feel sorry for them and fix them

people know what these drugs can do and lead to its not the 80's when information was scarce its 2015 and anybody that hasnt had tehir head up their arse for the past few decades is fully aware that cocaine etc is not a good thing and there is no excuse for taking them up..even if your a little glum coz your bird left you

i say just the same about smoking theres no excuse for people who start smoking these days the information and proof is out there.The days when tobbacco was thought to be benificial are long gone and teh truth is now known so anyone starting smoking with todays facts and proof is basically a moron..

but alas we live in a society where people can knowingly and deliberatly screw their lives up and we constantly wipe their arses for them and pick up the peices for them yet the same soft arse society dosnt recognise the pain and plight of the TRUE victims these people leave behind

ps:

magic mushrooms grow in my garden .. i dont like mushrooms even if they are on the 5 a day list but the lawn mower seems to be ok with them

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Doesn't this come under the heading: "None of your goddam busines."? If you wish to set yourself up as moral arbiter on this issue, or any other, maybe it's time to reveal your credentials ... or get some.

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not setting myself up as moral arbiter just voicing my opinion which dosnt seem to be a problem until the opinion isnt showing sympathy for idiots

my credentials that you seek are been the son of an elderly woman who worked hard al her life now living in fear the past 10 years too scared to open a window even in summer for fear of another smackhead climbing through it and coming face to face wih her

not to worry though any smack head that gets into her house cant steal her wedding ring from her husband she lost to cancer many years ago neither can they steal family airlooms handed down from generation to generation because some filthy little wretch with a drug problem already sold them for scrap to feed his pathetic little addiction he brought upon himself

hey but screw her and many like her lets hear more about how bad these lost souls have it and shower them with understanding and compassion

you wanna take the side of a pathetic drug addict then fine but dont expect me and people who have been effected in terrible ways by these scumbags to agree with you or expect me to feel bad about my lack of compassion for these people because they deserve none

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IMHO this statement doesn't belong in a discussion about Cannabis.

Why after periods of absence from the site, you reappear and insist on mentioning hallucinogenic drugs... its getting old

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Oh I don't know Rob, Accyman is speaking from an actual experience that was brought about by an individual whose actions were the result of his addiction. My own views on the subject are also tempered by personal experience & hence my negative views to recreational drug use.

At one time I'd of said let 'em get on with it, they're not hurting anyone, but as I've seen first hand the results of what can happen in extremes, I've become more inclined to speak against such a casual attitude.

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I understand where he's coming from but cannabis does not turn people in that way. Other drugs yeah. Some people
Already have in them to do such disgusting acts

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I forgot my musical interlude :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atMQzRFvCIY

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I beg to differ Rob, I personally know one character who's addled through its use.

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And this character is a thief and all the rest?

Accyman jumps to the subject of smackheads and how do we get there because there is no connection between the heroin and cannabis.

Oh. Dave not to be 'in ya face' and I am talking from "actual experience" it appears that most people are completely unaware that heroin addicts are much more despised by cannabis smokers than they are any other person, especially more than those that never touch 'illegal' drugs and buy into the dogma of them being 'evil'

As you say. I beg to differ

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My "Personal experience" is most certainly not on the level of yours Rob as I've not had the misfortune to be addicted to any substance or item, but, when your Brother in Law (and the reason I've taken leave to be here in Bayern now) is the sorry individual whom you're experiences & views are based on, I think I come in a close second for awareness of the problems.

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My problems were more with alcohol and painkillers more than anything illegal and came years later. But whos to say the anxiety I suffer now is to do with that or to do with drugs I have taken in the past. Thanks for the sentiment on that one.

I am not saying that people who smoke cannabis are all none violent pacifists, just that they do not fall into the mould that is set for them by negative press, peoples views ETC. Some people are just that way. Did your brother take other drugs

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It's probable that he has in the past, he's been using for as long as I can remember first meeting him back in the mid 80's. His previous stretch was due to trying to sell home grown weed to an undercover copper, since then the GCP have had him on their radar, hence his last episode which he's just been punished for. Over the last 30 years he's been getting more steadily aggressive, unaccountable, unpredictable & generally degenerate, the one constant through all this that could be seen as responsible has been his use/misuse of Cannabis.

Not perfect logic I know but to my mind the "Weed" is the reason for his decline, even his Psychologist has suggested he's a lost cause & there is no chance of him getting any better.

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I have found generally those that sell drugs are seldom good people. There was one that went to prison for murder and he never took any drug including alcohol.

Its a sad story you're telling. Some are beyond all care.

As for subject of drugs in general including cannabis, I wish it would just go away from accyweb, as I often do feel the need to jump in and comment. Damn forums! :D

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Not going to happen Rob, as long as people hold views whether they be for or against there will remain contention on the subject ...... Life's a beach mate! You know the rest. ;)

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Yeh because they are linked - and cannabis can produce said effect in people anyway.

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Often people who are addicted to anything such as cannabis, red wine or hard alcohol have some kind of social problem or relative problem that causes them to be addicted.

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Aye, the thing they're addicted to would probably be a good starting point KesX. ;)

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I don't smoke it!

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cannabis smokers often say cannabis isn't addictive but some become dependant on it.. bleh

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Serious addictions often are caused by other problems whether alcohol or cannabis. There are many people who can smoke cannabis just at weekends as there are alcohol users who do. Likewise their are addicts of both substances who have to use it everyday. Like I said I don't smoke it.

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yeah these are the canabis smokers that say canabis isnt addictive then inform you they cant startthe day until they have a jont , cant relax without a joint and cant get to sleep without a joint

dosnt sound addictive at all does it

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Most of these people smoke tobacco with their joints and therefore it's possible they have a tobacco addiction and don't know it

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iv known plenty that smoke weed and cant say any of them specificly started smoking so they could use weed so id assume most canabis smokers were already nicotine addicts before they ever had a joint

but saying that i did meet someone at a party who was sharing a joint but claimed they didnt smoke

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I've known two that have never been smokers, one was myself.

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perhaps joints should come with a warning that they may contain tobbacco ?

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I do know what you mean though some people seem to act like addicts, its psychological.

Well funny you say that, one guy I knew only put cannabis in the front and next to nothing in the back... Those needed that warning for sure

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Anyway. There is a difference between physical addiction and psychological dependency. Im not saying for sure that I am right that cannabis falls with the latter but it still doesn't justify likening cannabis users to smackheads.
Edit... If that's what you had done In a previous post or did I read into that wrong? Anyway I'm fed up of discussing this subject. Like Margaret P I'm done with it

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the guy who robbed my mums house was a heavy weed smoker and did use other drugs as well but not as fequent as he did canabis which was a daily and often thing for him which he funded by stealing

i learned a lot about the scumbag he isnt a popular person by all accounts and even stole from his family to fund his drugs

someone stealing to buy weed is no different than a smackhead in my eyes but its down to perspective i guess

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In a sense I agree. Stealing is stealing there is no difference.

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Same if you drink neat whiskey no mixers you don't get as much hangover very little, than as if you mix with beer. Pure is better - I suppose same is with cannabis?

I don't think the majority have a lot to do with much really - the majority do what they are told, in most cases.

Problem with young people who smoke cannabis and alcohol is it seems to be cool to abuse it - get as smashed or as drunk as possible and knock yourself out. The more so the better, and the one who can take more is the coolest - this seems to be a code amongst the young.

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I've tried various things but please tell me, how do you smoke alcohol?

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I meant use alcohol by drinking it - that's trouble with you mate your always looking to pick a squabble!

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Kestrelx, this really gets boring. You only seem to have 2 topics you can discuss- cannabis and Jimmy Saville.
Time this thread shut down and you got a new obsession.

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It's one more than Nigel Farage!

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Yes but Nigel is a lot more entertaining with his one obsession than kestrelx manages with twice as many.

Anyway, you're wrong. Nigel has at least 2- the EU and immigration. He may have more which he's saving to surprise and entertain you!

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I've been off cannabis for 5days now,I struggled sleeping for a day or two at first but I seem to have overcome this issue.
I feel a lot better in myself,although I am a little hyper active, that's me and Mary Jane separated for good (hopefully).....


...only, time will tell.

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I knew what you meant was only pointing out how pathetically you always try to put a point across, you should give it a rest, you only show yourself up.
As for a squabble...

Even Accyexplorer puts forward better squabbles than you try to create, I hope if smoking weed was/is his problem he can continue his fight against it.

You however obviously suffer far worse problems.

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I've been off it for about 10 minutes ... don't feel hyper at all ... will I spark up another one soon? ... only time will tell.:rolleyes:

There, that's my apologia pro vita sua ... and now for a shot of Jack.:mosher:

But I don't think anyone cares whether you toke, or you don't; it's nobody's business but your own.

That's me and this thread separated for good (definitely) ....

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I honestly thought I'd be suffering some sort of withdrawals,ill effects because I just stopped,but I kinda like not having it....

....I've even had chance to think about all the things Less has said to me since posting onsite and I actually agree with some of it :)....


....Have a toke for me Eric...after all it's your right ;)

...that's me done with cannabis and this thread (defiantly).

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Eric, all I can say is...
[emoji4] [emoji5] [emoji6] [emoji12]

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I have seen someone try it around 20 years ago. No idea why he would think you could. Set fire to whisky and breathed in the fumes... as you would expect nothing happened

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The Lord loves a reformed sinner more than a dozen hard drinking, heavy smoking saints!

I hope Mary Jane isn't Mrs. E?

So if you've done with this thread can you persuade kestrelx to do the same, then we can let it sleep?;)

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you can put absynth and some spirits liek vodka into e-giggarettes and vape it which is similar to smoking them but not similar enough to get it banned in pubs.From what i have been told and know no different thought sheer lack of intent if you vape absynth it can be halosogenic or however you spell see things that arnt there

mind you people get high from licking toads in some parts of the world

i suppose like your fist ciggy your first toad will be awfull but i have no desire to find out ill leave the toad licking to miss piggy

yes i know kermit was a frog

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Absinthe apparently has hallucinogenic properties due to containing wormwood and was banned here for a very long time, I think you need to drink large quantities and I never could get past one glass its utterly disgusting.

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For those who were wondering,cannabis is also effects dogs as this article in the daily fail reports.
Personally,I think the guys a tool and should be reported to the RSPCA.

TonyCostaMovies video shows the effects marijuana has on a dog | Daily Mail Online

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I saw a cat on speed once around 1995. The result was not good and the person that gave the drug to the cat got a lot of grief over it. Don't think it lived much longer than a few months


Anyway..Here is the description from the original video on youtube

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I was running a job in Sardinia (RAF Decimomanu?) and we were staying in Cagliari. One of the favourite tipples was Sambuca - shot glass with coffee beans floating on top, set on fire. Just about a colourless flame, put beer mat on top and then down it once the flames were out. One guy didn't quite get it right - he never had a problem with nasal hairs ever again.

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Is this finally a step in the right direction?
First legal 'Charlotte's Web' cannabis oil to go on sale in the UK | Metro News

Probably no good for the tokers but it may well help some folk and lay foundation for the future medicinal use.

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No wonder the Country is in the state it is, as the quote below from the article shows:-

"A recent petition calling on the Government to make the production, sale and use of cannabis legal in the UK was signed by 200,000 people in less than a week."

Yet a petition started at the beginning of August, "a vote of no confidence in the prime minister, call me Dave & his abysmal handling of the Calais crisis" so far stands at 12,428 (at the time of writing)

Dismal & dire to my mind, what pitiful depths the once respected & extolled "great Britain" has sunk too! :(

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It doesn't get much better in a lot of other Western nations ... too much political correctness fouling things up. No doubt, like most Britons, Cameron would love to put up a big sign on the White Cliffs ... something like: "[deleted] Off; We're Full." But he can't; ain't politically correct. He must envy Kim Jong-Un and the leaders of ISIS; they can do what the hell they like. Probably the Israelis too. No pussy-footing around from those guys when they are threatened. Of course, they don't have a choice; just look at a map and you can figure out why.

The Donald is probably the only honest man seeking office. But when you have billions of bucks, you can say whatever is on your mind, even if it offends many folks. Seems that by saying what's on his mind The Donald has struck a chord with many Americans, especially south of the Mason-Dixon Line, and in trailer parks across Texas and Oklahoma.

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I have ordered a Medipen
https://medipen.co/
which is a legal way to vape cannabis oil.
I don't expect any 'high' from it but it will will be a way for me to 'vape'.
I haven't bought any conventional vaping gear because I don't like the list of chemicals that are likely to be in them.

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Here in California we are one election cycle away from some sort to legal open carry/use law. The County of Mendocino is estimated to produce $10 Billion of high grade pot and the State would like to tap it's tax revenue.
As far as drugs go it is fairly benign and there are enough well charted medical benefits to validate it as a therapy. The only wrinkle is the driving while impaired aspect,but even this is far less of a threat then a drunk behind the wheel.
The police have far more serious things on their plate than to run around busting potheads and citizens don't need to rack up a record for this minor and fairly victimless crime.

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I started vaping cannabis oil 3 days ago.
I used to take 6 or 8 paracetemol a day to relieve arthritic neck pain. I have only taken 2 paracetemol in the 3 days I have been vaping.

I can recommend it for chronic pain.

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I'm glad you found it useful M,it's been used for pain relief for hundreds of years.
The only thing I woud say is,find out what dosage you require for your relief and don't exceed it.
Where did you acquire your "oil"? is it 100% THC oil that you can use in a electric vaping machine or is it the manmade stuff?
I've a friend who has arthritis and I pretty sure she could benefit from vaping canaabis oil.

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I found two suppliers of legal vaping gear.
https://medipen.co/ - a blend of cannabis oil (THC removed) and coconut oil
https://kanavape.com/ - hemp oil (lower CBD strength)

I bought a Medipen because it has much more of the effective ingredient for only slightly more money.
Both are expensive !
Medipen 1ml cartridges cost £24.97 each

Bottles for refills are not available

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I'm surprised you can't get them free on the NHS,they seem to give everything else away,I've heard of the higher CBD strains also being used (effectively) in treating paediatric epilepsy.
If they use it for aiding children's symptoms ,It's got to be better for you than big pharm's poison ;)

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I really have no alternative for effective pain relief.
I have had nasty side effects from codeine and ibuprofen.
Paracetemol is the only pain killer that doesn't give me side effects, but it it doesn't provide fully effective relief.

I have had this pain problem ever since distalgesic (Co-praximol) was removed from the NHS prescription list - that was following Dr Kelly's (alleged) suicide, but I suspect is was due to their cost, rather than being the favourite drug for suicides. I consider the main cause of suicide is PAIN.

I am thankful that this vaping cannabis is legal, even though it will cost me more than tobacco would. I'm just glad that I can afford it - most pensioners can't. I expect that it eventually will be highly taxed :rolleyes: - then I will have to consider going 'illegal' :eek:

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Medicinal cannabis is available on prescription for some conditions.
It is in tablet form and was being trialled before I left the NHS in 2002.
It is called Sativex.
Patients with MS are prescribed it a mouth spray and it is used to relieve the neuropathic symptoms.

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It's common knowledge that lots of big pharma's drugs are not effective,produce undesirable side effects and can also be highly addictive.
It's also common knowledge that the sativa strains of cannabis have 'many' medical benefits and the only side effects are a little euphoria and perhaps a 'phycological addiction'.

It's just more madness from those dopey (deleted) that are out of touch and in power.....a vested interest perhaps? Hmm,I guess money talks and effective cures can walk.

Personally,I wouldn't blame you if you choose the illegal route M,After all who in their right mind would pay for big pharma's poison if they could get effective pain relief without the side effects for a fraction of the price.
Whatever folk may think about cannabis,we all deserve the chance to live a pain free life without legality getting in the way.

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Sounds like a prescription for making simple things difficult ... whatever happened to buying a quarter for $45.00 and a fifty cent pack of rolling papers?

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No Eric, it isn't.
This is medicinal stuff....legal, doesn't need to be smoked.......and available on the NHS as relief for MS symptoms.
My sister in law suffers from MS and for a long time relied upon illegal sources of the substance.......she now gets the legal stuff in a mouth spray which helps a lot.