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The current national debate is once again about how to classify cannabis.

Brown has announced that a second review is to take place to look at if cannabis should be re-classified from the current class “C” drug to a class “B” drug.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/jul/18/immigrationpolicy.drugsandalcohol

Some sufferers of multiple scelorsis claim that cannabis alleviates their pain. So does heroin in the guise of morphine.

However it is daft to allow alcohol to be legally sold and all the problems that it causes, yet criminalize the use of cannabis.

The real problem with cannabis is that it is cultivated and sold by criminals because it is illegal to grow, posses, sell and use.

We can legally make our own beer and wine and even spirits for OUR OWN CONSUMPTION so why not cannabis. Alcohol not only kills and maims the user but others as well. Cannabis rarely if ever does the same.

Take the criminality out of cannabis by controlling its production and distribution and make it cheaper to buy from a licensed source, like a chemist, than buying it on the ‘street’. Undercut the criminals and they will go out of business. Once out of the cannabis business criminals would not be able to dupe their regular cannabis customers into trying other drugs, which would be a bonus. No doubt the criminal element will fight back but the government has to be strong and resolute even if it means that cannabis will be given away practically free. No business can run at a loss, especially a criminal business.

Then if the illegal cannabis trade can be wrested from the criminal the government should look at the possibility of doing the same with other so called ‘recreational’ drugs.

Finally, I have never knowingly used any illegal drug so from a purely personal view I don’t care what happens to cannabis. I prefer to keep my brain clear and active, which is why I do not use alcohol and haven’t done for more than 15 years.

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I don't really have an opinion as I have never used drugs. its bad enough having to take prescribed drugs just to stay alive let alone just for kicks

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hasnt cannabis been proven to cause mental health problems?

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yep thats right emamum, can make ya paranoid.

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i think the prob with cannabis is that back when it entered mainstream it was harmless lil weed thing

now the variants being produced are ALOT stronger than the old stuff. hence much more dangerous

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In a few cases cannabis has been reported as causing mental health problems. Of maybe the cannabis just brought out what was already there.

Undoubtedly cannabis will affect different people in different ways. For instance some people are allergic to penicillin and other antibiotics. My daughter is allergic to the Novocain that dentists use to ease the pain of fillings and extractions.

But, quite rightly, they don’t ban Novocain just because she has problems with it.

Look at the leaflet that comes with any prescribed medicine. Among other things it will list possible side effects. Yet the drug is still in use and being prescribed.

As I understand it cannabis has progressed, if that’s the right word, to become stronger by the criminal element. They call it skunk don’t they? That is reason enough to take cannabis out of criminal hands.

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i think skunk is less processed than the brown stuff which is called resin. Which is what makes it stronger.

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Are you sure, surely not, you must be joking, not cannabis, give over,who said that, i`m sure someones following me................I never said i`d ever smoked it, did i? err no think not?......:w00t:

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i used to smoke cannabis, when i was younger, well only did it a few times, never used it again, my mum smokes cannabis to ease her arthritis and other pains and it works, when used moderated that is. i cant imagine my mum being stoned :silly:

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I would welcome the chance (legally) to grow my own to relieve arthritic pain.
Doc can only give me paracetemol - useless
Looking forward to the day they prescibe it on NHS
The only other alternative is to emigrate to Holland.

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I'm with you on that one. According to this BBC site there are more than 400 chemicals in cannabis, and I feel I'm already getting more than my fair share via the drugs I take now.

BBC - Science & Nature - Hot Topics - Cannabis - Index Page


I'm in two minds about the downgrading of the drug. True it doesn't in itself have as much effect on society as alcohol, though the crime that is a direct result of it's illegal status, does.

For those who claim it helps relieve the pain of their medical condition, surely with today's technology similar effects could be produced synthetically, which could then be prescribed through a doctor?

True not everyone who takes cannabis will go on to be a crack addict, just as not everyone who ever has a drink will go on to be an alcoholic. Though what is a fact is that people who are addicted to harder drugs always start off smoking cannabis.

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MS sufferers can have it on NHS
BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis drug available in the UK

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By the way, I'm not saying those people who claim it helps relieve pain are in the wrong. I know a woman with MS who swears it is the only thing that helps her, and I suppose her buying it makes her a criminal, and her actions help support the criminals who supply the drugs trade, which is wrong.

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Though funding for it may depend under which Health Authority you fall under.

Multiple Sclerosis Society Website - Welcome to the MS Society - Sativex

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no it can't, shhh wait a minute what was that noise..........help they are after me again.............................quick run.........................

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I only tried it once, but I never exhaled:)

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I've used it every day for the last 40 years, never found it addictive and as for slide effects......http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies...nfused0039.gif

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With the same amount of abuse, it's as dangerous as alcohol is. Therefore, as jambutty states in his opening post, it is somewhat farcical for the government to have alcohol as a legal item (that they make a hell of a lot of money out of) and to persist with making cannabis illegal.

If cannabis was legalised, the content could be regulated properly.

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I think that, like any substance which puts you into altered states, weed is ok if used with moderation. Personally I prefer people who are stoned rather than hammered. Booze which is legal and heavily taxed (and in Ontario, liquor can be sold only in govt. outlets) does tend to bring out the worst in people. In the 70s, Nixon commisioned a study on weed in the states. The problem was that those doing the study came to the wrong conclusions ... at least conclusions which Nixon was not prepared for and did not want to hear. Some researchers doubted that weed could be classified as a drug, at least under the guidelines that they had been given. In order to classify drugs they considered the difference between the effective dose (what gets you high) and the lethal dose. With those guidelines booze is classified as very dangerous. But with weed, they could find no lethal dose.

The major problems I see with legalization are that the quality will go down and the price will go up. Around here, weed goes for $50 a quarter. That's a decent enough price, and the quality is good.

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Most people that appear on the Jeremy Kyle Show seem to smoke a lot of cannabis.

Enough said.:D

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Jeremy Kyle:confused: It's things like this that make me feel like a real foreigner:)

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It's similar to the shows from your southern neighbour, like Rikki and Jerry Springer, only with a better class of trash on it.;)

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It is Oprah for the brain dead

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People wouldn't need mind-altering drugs if they all watched it.

Afterwards you are left feeling euphoric...that your life isn't as bad as the poor cretins that appear on the show.:D

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Hmmmm I wouldnt be too sure of that. However, I do know who the father to my children is without doing a paternity test and dont need a lie detector to know he'd cheated on me


Back to the main sbject though, I have tried cannabis twice when I was younger (once at 16 and once at 18) both times it made me violently sick. I do know people that smoke it on a daily basis and form what I can tell it does not seem to have made them paranoid etc but who knows. not knowing first hand I couldnt comment of the side effects but I know it does have medicinal purposes so there should be no law against it for those reasons

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LMAO......Attachment 11353funny buggers:tongueout

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Thanx guys .... I thought it was something like that .... I watched a few minutes of Jerry Springer once .... that was enough ....

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:confused:I do not believe it should be changed to a class B drug.

Our courts are busy enough without having to deal with petty possession charges, Or would the issue some form of on the spot fine system.:rolleyes:

Most pople who say it should be increase dont really understand the amount of people that actually use the drug.

Go back 15 years cannabis was mainly sold in the form of resin, in numorous types and it was usually of good quality and the price was pretty high. Nowadays resin or Soap Bar is full of all sorts of poisons and is half the price its purely made to make profit.

The UK Cannabis Co-Op : Smoking Soap - Smoking Poison!

Back then Skunk was a pretty rare thing to get hold off, unlike today where it is the mainstream, again with the skunk (which lets remember is a plant NOT man made and has MANY other uses). there are different types, strains and strenths.

Although the proffit barrons have started to poison this to again to make proffit from the user.

CANNABIS-CAMPAIGNERS-GUIDE-SMOKE-SOAP-SMOKE-POISON

Now IMO if you make the drug harder to get hold of this is what happens even more, the quality goes the proffitears take over and poison the users.

Now if the smokers where allowed to possess a small quantity without problem this would save police a lot of messing. I watch Street Wars and they regularly find people possessing skunk, to which they usually arrest, warn, and the dearrest as it can be dealt with at the roadside. should they arrest spend 2 hours+ processing the "criminal" to give him a petty caution or send him to court?

I feel more resorses should be made getting the smack of the streets.

Funny thing is all the bad parts of roadwars seem to come from Alchol?:confused:

Now I could go on about the medical benefits, but if you want to know more, google is your friend.

So after my waffel, I feel that cannabis laws need to be looked at in great detail, you will never stop it being on the streets.

but NO WAY should it be increase to a class B.

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Ecstasy is supposedly good for the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease, but hopefully there'll be no calls to make that a legal narcotic.

Ecstasy has dramatic effect on Parkinson's symptoms - 06 November 2002 - New Scientist

Personally I can't see that waving your hands in the air for hours on end, smiling manically, and telling everyone you love them, will be much of a relief, as I do that anyway.:D

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Settle down Neil its only the rabbits out of Rhydings Park:D

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What do you mean Rindi "seem":D

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A lot of them admit to smoking canabis, which is then pointed out to them that this drug can produce paranoia, and may explain why they are having trouble believing that their partner isn't cheating on them, or that the children are in fact their's.:rolleyes:

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Queen Victoria used it for period pains

Famous Cannabis Users

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She also took cocaine.:rolleyes:

History of Cocaine, Recreational Use

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Did you notice at the bottom of that list
....stone age artists.....
burnt hemp seeds found at many archeological sites

methinks we are being denied our ancient heritage

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It seems strange that Queen Victoria wasn't 'amused', as most of the time she appears to have been smacked up to the eyeballs.:D

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probably had 'munchies' and it would be a long trek to the kitchen

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I saw a documentary about this, and so the difference it had to the sufferrers all I can say is If that was my relative I would willingly score them Ecstacy as it improved there life untold amounts.

Would you say out of interest alchol makes you violent like week makes you paranoid?

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Having Parkinson's myself, I think anything that may bring relief is worth investigating.

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I see a lot of comparing with weed/alcohol. As I see it you can lock people up for misusing alcohol to a point where they are becoming a danger to others.

As for weed, you can't lock people up for damaging themselves mentally (except in extreme cases), hence it's illegal to try and stop people getting in that situation.

I guess this all depends on your personal philosophy. Is the state there to protect your liberty from being invaded by others, or does it go further, should they be able to interfere in your own personal private liberty (kind of 'We know best')? Your answer to that question should sway you either way in the legality argument, but you'll find that your other views on things may conflict with your decision, if you apply the liberty argument elsewhere.

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Are you refering to being sectioned?

Who's to say Cannabis is more harmfull the Alcohol in the mentally department.

IMO its down to the user whatever the drug, how far they take it.

If I was to smoke a whole load of weed, I would feel sick, throw up, be ill or go asleep or Whitey as the saying goes.

If I was to drink a whole load of Alcohol I could poison myself to where I need URGENT medical attention.

Which is worse?

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Deffanatly.

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Well that's the point of the rest of my post. Clearly cannabis doesn't affect your mind. It's a lot harder to cure mental illness.

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When I inhaled (a long time ago)- the first time made me sick.
After that it just made me relaxed and happy.
One most remarkable benefit was improved hearing- Pink Floyd sounded superb :D
still sounds great but I miss that fine detail

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Stone age artists!!!!! Some punster must have writtern that one:eek: Anyway, I thought the stone age was the sixties .... and now we are into the "Let's Get Blasted with Anything Anytime Age.":rolleyes:

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Mmmmmmm. I reckon the doddering Darwen delinquent's been on the old Wacky Baccy himself.:D:D

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no wonder she always had a face on her!
didnt really make her happy did it!!...LOL

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My children used to find it hard to credit that neither I nor their dad had ever tried cannabis in the 60s. I did point out to them that when pot was everywhere (my daughter says the only people who still call it pot are me and Paul McCartney) we were too busy changing their nappies etc. The point is, pot was relatively innocuous compared to the stuff that's around today and less likely to do so much harm.

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I agree with that!! How many times have we heard of people dying by choking on their own vomit after a shed load of booze, and other related diseases, Kidney failure, fatty liver etc .......

AND Alcohol abuse CAN be worse for you than Cannabis. Lewy Body Dementia is usually the outcome of Alcohol abuse.

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its all bad for you, drugs, beer, fags, sunbeds.....ya just need to looka ta few chavs and dingles;)

now thats a good advert to keep off it;).....:D:D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/conte..._1_300x300.jpgbefore


http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/conte..._6_300x300.jpgAfter

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I actually think she looked better on the after pic :D:D:D

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Is that really Kerry Kantona?

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Me was once offered drugs - and said no thanks i take enough as it is... next oh which one you take have you got some on you now - i said i take phenobarbiton and theyre at home in the bottle that the pharmacist gives to me every time i take a prescription in to him. Never touched illegal drugs - the only ones that i take are the ones the docs give to me and i have enough hassles sometimes taking them!!!

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I saw a rather interesting documentary on TV. the reporter spent a month working in a cafe in Amsterdam, researching cannabis during her time off under medical supervision. The first joint she smoked made her violently sick because she wasn't used to it and smoked the full joint all at once. The next day, she smoked a different one and smoked it slowly. She was happy and relaxed.
She likened the weed to drinking red wine or spirits. The different sorts had different effects.
Test were done in a lab with her smoking and a test was done with her driving under the influence of drink with these dolls lined up had the dolls been babies they would have been dead. The drink had made her over confident.
Then she drove under the influence of weed. She was very cautious and more a danger to her self. The dolls were OK. It was concluded that reports in the paper were ott in reports of it causing any serious damage and the worse to smoke is skunk that's not mixed with tobacco.
I smoked it everyday all day for a long time and had no problems stopping. Wish it was as easy to give up tobacco. The only time i miss it is when i have a bad headache or am in a lot of pain with my arthritis.

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Thought I would bring this back into the debate, as since it was posted, Cannabis has been classified back to Class B.

Can you see any differences from when it was a class C?

This is one substance (HEMP) that is being so miss informed on its shocking. The uses that this could bring into the modern world should be allowed to be developed much more than it is now.

Propoganda is why its being classed as being so bad as it would be a danager to other Multi Million ££ $$ Business's.

The medical benefits need to be looked into more aswell.

I say Decrimanalise (SP). Not re Class, Even most police (The Good Ones) will not bother with cannabis as they know and see the real truth.

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BBC NEWS | England | Wear | Girl charged over £750k drug farm

she must have had help ... theres no way she could have afforded all that equipment ...

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Never used drugs, eh ... that means you have never taken a drink:confused:

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I have recently looked into the nutritional and health benefits of hemp, and they are quite astounding.
The problem lies in that the public perception of the whole of the genus of hemp plants, and there are several varieties, has been coloured by misuse and criminalisation of use.

In Uk there is a farm producing hemp oil - and you can now buy it in supermarkets labelled Good Oil.

It has to pass rigorous gov tests to ensure that it does not contain any mind altering substance. It is better for health than cod liver oil and has good protein content.

You can use it as a skin moisturiser too.

I am having 3 big bottles delivered from Sainsburys next week :D

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PS - I have just looked at Mysupermarket.com - Tesco sell it. - Asda don't

http://www.goodwebsite.co.uk/goodhealth.php

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Totally agree, its a topic people are miss-informed on, but most will not comment or have a blinkerred approach.

More than just medical, Paper, Food, Fule, Cloths it goes on and on.

Glad to see you have some on order.:D

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Living in the middle of an estate where i would say more than half of the residents smoke cannabis it is surprising to see that most of those i speak too admit they are addicted to it.
Quite a few cannot start their working day without having a joint.

I tried a few puffs on a joint several years ago and i was very sick. Have never touched one again.

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If it was legalised it would be the weak stuff, there would still be a market for the strong stuff and I believe that it would increase criminal activity. People start off the the weak legal stuff but want to try something stronger so go underground. I mean who would only drink shandy when you can have a single malt ?

Also, tobacco and alcohol are easily taxed due to high quantity. Brewing your own tastes like crap, takes hours and might do you for a night. Tobacco requires the right weather and the land. Weed would be almost impossible to tax. Becoming self sufficient on weed is perfectly do-able, even on a joint a day. It would be impossible to tax and therefore there is no point in the government legalising it.

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That is why I dont think it should be legalised.

Decriminalise IMO would be a better option, introduce some sensable laws on usage and the amount you can legally have in you possession. This would free up police resorses as most police know weed isnt that bad a problem. If people where allowed to grow there own for personal use this could reduce crime as there would be less demand on the black market for it and the quallity would be better also for the user.

Also Hemp as a product has Many, Many uses people just hear cannabis and think of smoking it, when there are loads of other uses.

For example, if we harvested hemp to be made into paper we could reduce the amount of trees being cut down greatly. I read somewhere that 1 arce of hemp is the same a 4.1 acres of trees. Trees take years to grow, hemp takes about 3-4 months per crop.

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I used to drink like a fish Eric, but I can take it or leave it, he only drink problem I have now is I can't afford it:rolleyes: Ciggies are a drug too, but the first time I was asked to cut down by a doctor I gave up, haven't had one for 31 years. When we talk about drugs its chemical substances taken for kicks like Cocaine, Ecstasy and the like, I look at it this way, I put enough prescription drugs in my body ust to say alive, why would I want to smoke Cannabis for kicks

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I'm a non smoker and never tried pot or skunk.

I cannot say that I don't do drugs because I do drink alcohol. I like to think I know the limit of my measure when it comes down to alcohol and hopefully have a good idea of what it does to me (makes me silly, melancholy and then I go bye-byes) and how I then appear to others.

I used to sniff glue while making Airfix kits until my nose got stuck to the rudder of a Fokker DR1 triplane.

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Ya prisoner its a real fokker when that happens:D

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Cocaine, Ecstacy are mane made, prepaired, bit like perscription drugs. and even perscription drugs are taken for kicks and are more dangeress.

Cannabis is straight from the ground, grown, dried and consumed, a natural herb, but what im trying to get across is that it has many other uses that are not being taken advantage of due to the stigma palced on it.

You may find cannabis could help you, have you tried it for you ailments? and you dont have to just smoke it, it can be made as a food ie cakes, cookies, drink, smoothy ect.

One other point is that you can regulate cannabis use, once you have popped a few pills you can stop the effects they are happening regardless, cannabis can be regulated by the user, once they have had enough they can stop the intake.

No one has been reported (As for as I know) from dying from cannabis alone, how many die from alchol and tobacco each year?

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The word abuse has always to be used Mr D when you talk about alcohol and baccy as for prescription drugs, its bad enough taking them to help your medical condition let alone taking them for kicks, I'm on one drug which is often abused and is very addictive, yet I only use for its intended purpose, even then only when required

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This and other recent post's shows were your thought's have been coming from lately, are you a recent convert?

Suddenly seeing the world through psychedelic glasses? Wanting a return to your missed youth?

So far as Cannabis is concerned, welcome new user as someone that has used it every day for over 40 years allow me to tell you first hand, it is not addictive, it causes no mental harm whatsoever, (KILL, KILL, destroy the vermin!), and you will soon find that when people ring up about a motor accident you will dribble down the 'phone, telling them, "Hey don't bother me with you're problems.... **** happens!".
:cool:

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Tend to agree with this .... back in the 70s there was a study done in the US ... if anyone is interested, google National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse, otherwise: The Shafer Commission.

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Theres increasing evidence to suggest that long term use of cannabis can lead to psychosis particularly among those starting in their teens, however its not the major cause of schizophrenia.Smoking joints can harm your cognitive function as well as increase the risk of serious respiratory illnesses.Cannabis is a trigger for mental health problems smoking it under the age of 18 can double your chance of developing psychosis.

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Provide links please

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plus its a killer like alcohol if you drive or use machinery.i dont like this drug culture its only fueling the flames of anti-social behaviour and lining the dealers pockets.why should we the taxpayer pay for people getting stoned everyday and not working a day in their life and creating total anarchy.if labour do this i will never vote for them again.what happened to,drugs are for mugs its an effen disgrace..:enough::enough:

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Do you have an opinion about driving under the influence of Prozak?
Many prescription drugs alter mental states and perception.

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Don't mention Prozac to me Margaret, I was prescribed this about 15 years ago, I took 1 tablet around 15 years ago and it had me crawling up the wall, the most frightening experience I've ever had, just 1 25mg capsule could turn me into a shacking shell of a person in two hours:(

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used to smoke it a lot. A hell of a lot but dont touch it anymore, just alcohol for me now(which is infact one of the worst drugs hehe) i am not against canabis and there is nothing much wrong with it but some people abuse it too much and where its not addictive as such some become dependant on it and fool themselves into thinking its their entire life

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some african/jamican smokers of cannabis have the opinion that it is good for for ashma and breathing. Peter tosh the musician believed this to be true.

The thing is. resin form of cannabis is that when they make it they put all kind of chemicals with it... so you are actually smoking plastic hardners etc, of which i imagine can increase the risk of respiratory illness

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Not at all, Im still in my youth.:cool:

Im may, or may not be a new user or have been a user for many years or even be a total none smoker, or I could know a large different group of users who show that most things that people say about the subject they are talking rubbish.

But is completely erelivent to the debate.

In US history, cannabis was banned in 1937, but before this it was used a lot, at one time in virgina it was ILLEGAL not to grow hemp.

Im sure I read something the Henry Fords first Model T was build to run a hemp gasoline and the car its self was constructed from hemp. (cant confirm if this is true or not),

Quite a intertsting read if you look into the FACTS.

Joints contain tobacco.

Smoking it weed could cause psycosis, being a none smoke you can still suffer from psycosis, taking perscribed medication can cause psycosis.

Not all users are on the dole, infact the same can be said about alcohol.

Anti Social behaviour is more alcohol fuled, but this lines the goverments pocket so that ok.

Drugs are for mugs, So when the doctor perscribes pill's you tell him Im no mug and refuse the medication.

That says a lot for a perscription medication.

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I can agree with this, its down to abuse, most things can be bad for you if they are abused and no mater what it is they will always be people who use it different to others.

Yes its poision, I had a list at one time that showed all the things added, to UK Soap Bar (Solid/Resin) Nasty Stuff.

Green/Skunk whatever you want to call it is sufering the same with the fact its harder to aquire they are tainting it with, bits of glass, sand, silacone ect to increase the weight.

If people where allowed to grow there own the quality would be better and safer for the users.

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Eurggh there are so many weak arguments being made remind me to come back to this thread in a couple of weeks.

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It must be these things dropping off my spliff that keep burning holes in my tea-shirt.
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By the way isn't glass made of sand and isn't sands main constituent silicone? (apologies for spelling that word correctly).

Though I do find it shocking to think that a dealer in illegal substances would stoop to such underhand methods just to make some extra money.
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You need a better supplier.:smokin:

No need to apologise for correct spelling, I cant spell, its educational for me to see my mistakes corrected, takes me back to being at school.:D

Glass, Sand, Silicone;) must be some way connected then, happpen there is some connection to the mega corps and world domination.:D:D:D

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But for prescription medication I wouldn't be here today:rolleyes:

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Ah Sams back with the wealth of experience of all his 19 years:rolleyes:

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fact. most druggies who spend most of there time smoking it have hardly any teeth left....

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Is this tobacco your referring to?

If not can you show where you get your FACTS from.:rolleyes:

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Whatever do you need fact's for? Just make them up as you go along, it seems to have worked for you so far.

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Nice one Less:D

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Since he quoted "fact" I wondered where he got his facts from then I could see for myself.:rolleyes:

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However can you see anything through that self inflicted smoke screen......Man?

:D

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He is looking - you aren't :rolleyes:
Here is a fact - Queen Victoria was an opium junkie :D
What is Laudanum? -- Advanced Usage -- The Opium Poppy FAQ

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So what?

Prince Albert was into Christmas Trees!

Not much use from either of them.:confused:

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Its a struggle but we manage somehow.:cool:

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Alcohol is more dangerous than weed.

I dont mind admitting that i smoke weed, sometimes quite ALOT of weed:D.

I can remember times when alcohol has made me fall over/violent/do things i regretted. However smoking weed or being "stoned" has never had those effects, it just relaxes your mind and i personally find smoking it increases my concentration (spent 6hours painting skirting boards in one room and not once was i bored lol).

Also when people drink excessivly they have to be doing something, when stoned you really cant be bothered hence why very few "stoners" get asbos (too busy relaxing).

I also dont mind admitting that for about a month when i was younger i sold weed, and there really isnt as much money to be made as what people believe, an ounce costs between £120 to £160 (depending on quality and various other factors) and out of that you can make between £160 - £200 depending on how genourous you make the bags. From experience i found that any profit ending up going up in smoke.....literally.

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i dont need statistics i see the facts everyday when im at work.

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If anyone is going to Asda today please get me some before they sell out ;)
YouTube - Cannabis seeds, £1.60 a bag... that's Asda price
for medicinal purposes only of course

Re: Cannabis
 

Of course wouldn't be anything else Margaret:rolleyes:

Re: Cannabis
 

Like it, they could still turn out to be male plants though.

Love the way he knows its White Widow, and how he still has it growing in his yard even though he knows what it is.