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Bonnyboy 01-06-2008 20:27
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 585498)
that idea alone though is not enough , i would like to see parents be given back the power to control their kids and not get put in prison for giving a well deserved beating to a kid that does this sort of thing
Agree fully. I think that teachers ought to be allowed to punish a child too.

Lilly 01-06-2008 20:30
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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 585504)
Agree fully. I think that teachers ought to be allowed to punish a child too.
Children don't fear teachers, parents, policemen or any other authority figures any more. :(

Discipline has been taken away from schools and the government keeps trying to take it away from parents too, more's the pity. :(

Bonnyboy 01-06-2008 20:42
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 585507)
Children don't fear teachers, parents, policemen or any other authority figures any more. :(

Discipline has been taken away from schools and the government keeps trying to take it away from parents too, more's the pity. :(
Children especially are very impressionable. A well behaved child watching an unruly child being naughty constantly without consequence for their actions will soon try to see how far they can push things themselves.

This may sound a bit taboo, but I think some children have to have fear instilled into them. They have to learn that action equates to consequence. Kids should have a healthy fear of their parent, teachers and the police.

pam1 01-06-2008 20:44
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[quote=BERNADETTE;585439]When my grandson was on his way round here at teatime yesterday another boy was following him and threatening him with a knife!! Luckily a friend of my daughters lives enroute so he went to her house and she brought him here. It is seriously scary as the boy is about same age as my grandson and he is nine:eek:[/quote
i think i would be scared as well, kids have no respect for no one these days.

Lilly 01-06-2008 20:45
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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 585518)
Children especially are very impressionable. A well behaved child watching an unruly child being naughty constantly without consequence for their actions will soon try to see how far they can push things themselves.

This may sound a bit taboo, but I think some children have to have fear instilled into them. They have to learn that action equates to consequence. Kids should have a health fear of their parent, teachers and the police.
I quite agree, Bonnyboy.

It's a sad state of affairs we're having to live with. :(

pam1 01-06-2008 20:45
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 585439)
When my grandson was on his way round here at teatime yesterday another boy was following him and threatening him with a knife!! Luckily a friend of my daughters lives enroute so he went to her house and she brought him here. It is seriously scary as the boy is about same age as my grandson and he is nine:eek:[/quote
i think i would be scared as well, kids have no respect for no one these days.

Bonnyboy 01-06-2008 20:54
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 585522)
I quite agree, Bonnyboy.

It's a sad state of affairs we're having to live with. :(
As you say, we are having to live with it. We flippin well shouldn’t be though. :(

I wonder what my great grandparents or even grandparents would have made of the fact that we can no longer effectively control our offspring.

cashman 01-06-2008 21:08
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 585507)
Children don't fear teachers, parents, policemen or any other authority figures any more. :(

Discipline has been taken away from schools and the government keeps trying to take it away from parents too, more's the pity. :(
thats something i have been saying repeatedly fer years, the P.C. brigade have much to answer for IMHO. this little git, if hes old enough to carry n threaten with a knife 9 yrs old or not, hes old enough to be releived of his freedom in my book. n i aint sure about jailing parents until its a level playing field n parents have disipline back in their powers. cos if they punish parents as is now, like other things in life it will be the easy targets NOT the real bad parents that will bear the brunt.

West Ender 01-06-2008 21:22
Re: Getting More Than A bit Scary
 
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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 585518)

This may sound a bit taboo, but I think some children have to have fear instilled into them. They have to learn that action equates to consequence. Kids should have a healthy fear of their parent, teachers and the police.

You are so right. Being afraid of what your dad, or mum, might do to you if you do wrong doesn't mean not being loved. If it did then most of my generation would have been "unloved" children - and I can assure you we weren't. We were "afraid" of teachers too, in as much as we knew better than to step out of line, and in awe of policemen.

cashman 01-06-2008 21:27
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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 585570)
You are so right. Being afraid of what your dad, or mum, might do to you if you do wrong doesn't mean not being loved. If it did then most of my generation would have been "unloved" children - and I can assure you we weren't. We were "afraid" of teachers too, in as much as we knew better than to step out of line, and in awe of policemen.
trouble with that is although correct n commonsense we are viewed as " Dinasors" by the pillocks in society.:mad:

grego 01-06-2008 21:51
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Bring back Corporal punishment I say, the little buggers know no discipline, get away with murder (literally) at home, school and in society in general, teach them some respect, I'd be ashamed if it was one of mine.
Hope your Grandson isn't too shook up Bernie.

blazey 01-06-2008 23:20
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I remember a few of the lads taking knives to primary school when I was there. I think it's always been a problem amongst youngsters, and most wouldnt actually use the weapon that they carry.

Obviously it is scary, and I am not trying to justify carrying knives in anyway, just speculating on my own experience as a child and recalling that knives were carried by some boys back then too.

grannyclaret 01-06-2008 23:23
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oh my god Bernie,,,The sooner we get back to adults being in charge and not kids the better,,,there was a time when kids had a friendly scrap and might have come home with a busted nose at the worst ,,BUT NOT THESE DAYS..its a scary world now

cashman 01-06-2008 23:23
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yeh can't really say most wouldn't use em blazey, kids when they "lose it" if they "carry" have every chance of using it.;)

Royboy39 01-06-2008 23:23
Re: Getting More Than A bit Scary
 
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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 585606)
I remember a few of the lads taking knives to primary school when I was there. I think it's always been a problem amongst youngsters, and most wouldnt actually use the weapon that they carry.

Obviously it is scary, and I am not trying to justify carrying knives in anyway, just speculating on my own experience as a child and recalling that knives were carried by some boys back then too.
As a student of law..........what would be your take on this?


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