Originally Posted by Tin Monkey (Post 589332)

As long as neither candidate declares themselves as an atheist, then it should be a close run thing. Apparently that's the one thing (above gender, sexuality, race, etc) that is sure to turn off the voters in America.

One thing going against Obama is the fact that it sounds a little like Osama. :D

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 588694)

Re. Bullseyebarb 's comments about him being a Marxist is also a bit strong , anyone who wants to normalize relations with Cuba gets points from me , and why the US has to be Israels bitch on foriegn policy is beyond me , all countries in that region of the world should be treated the same (maybe it has something to do with over 10% of the US congress being entitled to duel citizenship) seem to remember that when I became a US citizen I had to take an oath denying all foriegn Govt.s

Originally Posted by mani (Post 589655)

what surprises me is that they're so sure on iran's possession but they go hand in hand with the real terrorist states pakistan and saudi - one of whom is openly nuclear.

i wonder what are the odds there'll be some republican memo leaked out where obama has been "mis-spelt" barrack osama or even better - bollock osama :D

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 590261)

To clarify about Obama's race - he is most definitely NOT black.

To say Barack Obama is black is making total disregard of his white mother who gave birth to him and raised him. He is of mixed race and should be proud to say so. The song recently released by rapper Nas ('Black Pesident' - hoping for Obama to be the first black president), therefore, is erroneous.

Bring on the very first bi-racial President of the United States.

Originally Posted by panther (Post 586955)

none!, it should have been clinton.
I think its about time a woman ran that country because the men are making a right ass of it:rolleyes:....:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 590363)

Well he certainly sees himself as being black.

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela.'

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 590897)

That's all very well but it's quite irrelevant really. Biologically speaking, Obama is not a black person. He may identify with heroes from one side of his ancestry but it does not change his DNA.