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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 593974)

I doubt if one in ten people could name their Euro M.P.....young idiots like Cyfr and Blazey could possibly do so, but who gives a dam anyway? MEPs are a bunch of spineless, useless pillocks whose only purpose is to line their own and their families pockets. A 100 kiloton nuclear detonation over Brussels would not go amiss.

And don't forget the old idiots like me Tealeaf:)

Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 593974)

yeh but if ya did that, osama would get the credit,not you T, so would be pointless.:D;)

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 594051)

yeh but if ya did that, osama would get the credit,not you T, so would be pointless.:D;)

or Jones would blame Britcliffe:D

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Or Jaysay blames Jones :p
When it hits the fan we all get a bit :rolleyes:

Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?

1. (David Davies) Does the current round of mud slinging alter your views?
Yes, it alters my view of David Davies - where once I thought he seemed like a reasonable man now I think he's a bit of a joke!

2. (EU Debate) In or Out? Why?
In - I think we'd be better off with the Euro.

3. (Local Politics) Would you change the party of choice if given the chance?
I'm going to abstain on this one! ;)

4. (National Politics) can you say that you like this particular politician. Who and why?
I like Greg Pope - I think he's a sound chap and he works hard.

5. (Transport and Carbon Footprint) On your next holiday, what would be your choice. Fly - Drive - Swim?
Next holiday will be Drive. I have been abroad this year so have flown but it was the first time in three years. I walk a lot more than I ever used to. I used to drive to Knutsford every day but now I work locally - part of this was to reduce my carbon footprint.

6. (Public Transport) What would be your choice of transport on your next trip to London, Blackpool or the Lakes?
Train

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 593039)

1. Not at all. David Davies was right to do what he did.

2. Out. I don’t like the idea of being ruled by un-elected bureaucrats. Even if there was an elected Parliament, bigger is not necessarily better and it will take generations to get each current country to work in unison. France is a classic example of doing what it wants regardless of what the un-elected bureaucrats decree.

3. I would rather vote for a person rather than a political party.

I agree with jambuty's views.
As for questions 4, 5 & 6?

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 592908)

4. (National Politics) can you say that you like this particular politician. Who and why?

This question doesn't really make sense but I'll try and answer it anyway as others have. I thought Gordon Brown would've made a good PM about a year ago. Since then he has destroyed my image of him as a hard worker doing what needs to be done. I wouldn't trust Cameron if you paid me and the rest are a bunch of jokers.
One major problem I have with national politics is that I do not feel like Parliament is representative of the population in the slightest. The rich rule the roost and keep us commoners at a distance.

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 592908)

5. (Transport and Carbon Footprint) On your next holiday, what would be your choice. Fly - Drive - Swim?
6. (Public Transport) What would be your choice of transport on your next trip to London, Blackpool or the Lakes?

These to me sound like the same question.
Well, I shan't be able to afford a holiday until I retire because of the amount of debt I shall mount up as a student and a first time house buyer in the near future.
Oh, and of course if the Tories get in, no doubt I'll have to pay some sort of 'working class tax' and be force to surrender my academic qualifications (as how can someone from the working class succeed in education? Nonsense). So, I'll be back in Accy working in a call centre until my days are numbered. No holidays for moi.

With regards to transport choice? The one that's economically viable. Environmentalism is super if you can afford it.

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Much obliged for the positive Karma shakermaker.:D

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 593037)

Methinks that someone has been trying to re-write history to try and put Germany in a better light. Go and read the REAL history of Germany.

When Hitler became Chancellor in 1933 Germany was in an economic mess, with inflation running riot at several thousand percent PER DAY. One Million Mark notes were the norm and stamps of the day showed several million marks. Workers would demand their wages two or three times a day because by the time they got the money to the few shops that had something to sell the value had dropped drastically. Some businesses had to eventually resort to offering the goods that they made to their workers rather than actual cash wages.

Hitler turned things around and after becoming the Führer in 1934 set about realising his dream of dominating Europe and expanding the Aryan race. WWII was about grabbing land for the Fatherland and absolutely nothing to do with economic competition between European countries.

I do believe that the runaway indflation in Germany was in 1923, and was directly connected to the legal occupation of the Ruhr by the French Army. The reluctance of Great Britain to support the French action was one of the first major signs of the break down of the solidarity of the WWl allies. And it is not difficult to see how Hitler "turned things around." By expanding the German Army from 100, 000 men to 35 divisiions he created a boom in German industry, as did the massive public works projects such as the construction of the Autobahnen. But I do agree with your last statement. To understand the genisis of the war, it is best to ignore economic reasons and read Mein Kampf. The invasion of Poland by the Germans provided the English with an excuse to go to war ... up to that point there had been several good, perhaps better reasons for the allies to declare war on Germany; the reoccupation of the Rhineland comes to mind. The declaration of war was the right thing to do, but it was done at the wrong time. Firm action on the part of the allies, if it had been taken earlier, would have crushed Hitler before he really got going. To think that Hitler would have left England alone is to think like Neville Chamberlain.

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 593974)

I doubt if one in ten people could name their Euro M.P.....young idiots like Cyfr and Blazey could possibly do so

Thankfully between me you and Blazey, two of us have the innocence of youth on our side. ;)

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 595224)

Thankfully between me you and Blazey, two of us have the innocence of youth on our side. ;)

I suppose the arrogance of youth has nothing to do with it;)

Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?

1. (David Davies) Does the current round of mud slinging alter your views? Not at all, a very principled man, we need more like him.
2. (EU Debate) In or Out? Why? In, for trade purposes, not for a united europe
3. (Local Politics) Would you change the party of choice if given the chance? I would rather have current than the alternatives
4. (National Politics) can you say that you like this particular politician. Who and why? Greg Pope, nice chap, way too loyal over some issues
5. (Transport and Carbon Footprint) On your next holiday, what would be your choice. Fly - Drive - Swim? Walk ;)
6. (Public Transport) What would be your choice of transport on your next trip to London, Blackpool or the Lakes? Train, Train, Car

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On the question of the Carbon Footprint: I was thinking about my vacation plans the other day, and I decided to take my holidays at home. Thousands of tourists visit Kingston every year; tourism is a billion dollar industry in this town. I think this year I will enjoy what my community has to offer. Yesterday the Snowbirds were in town for their annual visit, and they gave a wonderful demonstration of precision flying over the inner harbour and the Thousand Islands. On Canada Day (July 1) there will be a free classic rock concert with Trooper and April Wine, followed by fireworks over Confederation Basin and Fort Henry hill. Lots of things to do and see right here at home.

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 595224)

Thankfully between me you and Blazey, two of us have the innocence of youth on our side. ;)

I think the fact that I completely missed Tealeafs comments just goes to show how selective I am when reading threads like these. I just skip the nonsense and read what matters!

I took a great liking to EU law, so much so that I am studying it optionally next year too! Fellow students think I am crazy but I don't care.

For the record, I can only name one and that is Den Dover. His name just sticks into my head because of the Ben Dover jokes :p