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I wondered how long it would be before you two became 'Buddies :rolleyes:'

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Cor blimey Guv! you mean me?.. come buddies with who.. you been on the sangria ain't you?

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oh its not sensible @ rational if it don't fit in your narrow mind? you never did say why you asked that question, :rolleyes: you can think what you wish about my behaviour, thats your choice, perhaps its cos i didn't like your question? but thats not rational or sensible in your ivory tower is it?

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Margaret thank you for your points and the respectfull way you put them, but like it or not we are European citizens but that does not mean we have to lose or own identies, when there was last a vote on common Market staying in or out the majority voted to stay in, what many fail to see in the global ecomomy the Uk cannot go it alone and ignore 500 million market on its door step Europe for all its faults has brought peace and the end of slaughter, i agree with you as it develops the open free market is a good thing, and yes maybe people in many of the countries are fearfull of where its going, my job takes me all around Europe and i see at first hand its benefits i was Ireland two weeks ago when they voted no, and part of the reasons was they had concerns about laws ect, but hundreds of thosands of British people have moved and now live and work in Europe, and the same process of free movement is applied to all citizens i am sure Margaret that when you read about " money spent of migrants" you must understand that that yes they should and with help will integrate but hey did not ask personally for that money, many just want and do work and support themselves and their families, if government bodies in the Uk want to throw money at them, dont blame or demonise them there human beings like me and you, you put forward some good points and i thank you that you did not verbally abuse those E.U citizens who have come to our country, the tablod gutter press stir alot of this hatred and lies up, then mention nothing when these people are attacked in the street and i know you would like me be totally against that. Our own Governments of both parties have alot to answer for, but sadly in this now global economy we need Europe and Europe needs us, it can the Europeans model be changed and maybe the no votes in FRance Holland and now Ireland be a wake up call to them that there must be changes but wishing it would all go away as some do is going to do nothing. We can be proud UK citizens and part of Europe as well, but maybe a more fairer and better balanced affair than it is now, and to ensure our children live in a country that never has to give some many lives as it did in both wars that is worth working for thank you for engaging in the debate without insult and hatred for others we need reasoned voices like yours to be heard all best home again now in good old York

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Are you an indoctrinated politician...or mad?

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What is the problem here? if it is a problem.. so we have a vast influx of workers..I say workers from somewhere else.. who employ these workers?.. I reckon it's farmers,who seem to have gone silent these days.. no more moaning and whinging from the farmers..So we whinge about the Polish.. it was the Packistanies when I joined Accy Web.. but now it's the Polish .. I'll ave a go at owt..but who's next?

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declan, i sure aint demonising the E.U. immigrants, i am pee'd off with our ******* that bend over backwards to throw benefits at em,n honestly think most folk are the same. me late mam was one by the way.

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Who's next for what?

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Who's next to have a go at.?.. Roy.. me and you aint gonna get on are we .. my son

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Ah now I understand, your last sentence betrays you, you resent someone who is clearly capable of putting together a full sentence!! Poor thing I guess you must have had this problem for a long time.

As for why I asked the question, I thought that was self evident from the answer, clearly not to some.

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no polly the main problem i have is arrogant gits like you, who seem to think they are better n the average oik.:rolleyes:

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Declan, thankyou for trying to update my education.
I do not think that by coming out of, what was initially seen to be a trading partnership, that we would be 'going it alone'......we managed very well for centuries without such a huge conglomeration of countries. If we have products that other countries want, then don't tell me that they wouldn't buy from us, just because we aren't in their 'club'.

We have as a nation been penalised in many ways by the EU......CAP and fisheries policies spring immediately to mind.....we pay huge sums of money into the EU and I cannot see many benefits for the common man.
I know that the huge bureaucracy that is Brussels is almost an industry in itself......but we (the common people) have no control over the rules and constraints they place on our lives.......and inasmuch as it is not democratic, because the majority of these people a re not elected by us, we are being ruled by a dictatorship..... a huge one.

Tell me, is it really trues that we won the war? Yes, but the peace was given away piecemeal by our politicians who failed to listen to the electorate.

And as for a majority voting 'YES' to join the Common Market.....it maybe true , (but I am sceptical given the current way votes are being done over and over until the right answer comes up)but the people of Britain were sold the Common Market as a trading partnership......with words like 'going it alone would be financial and economic suicide'

So I reckon the whole thing was 'missold'......can we have our money back now Guv?

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And I do not demonise any economic migrant.......I think that I observed in my post that it wasn't necessary to help these migrants to integrate as they would do this of their own accord.
It is very well accepted that providing interpreters does not motivtes migrants to learn the language.......I know this from my own work in the NHS.......we spent thousands and thousands of pounds translating documents into Asian languages......this money was wasted because the majority of the women couldn't even read.......I know the eastern european migrants are different....but it is still folly to spend money in this way.

The money could be better spent in schools, and hospitals......and I know it isn't a vast sum, but these economic migrants will have children, and will want them to go to school so the money would still be of benefit to them and also the indigent population too.