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shakermaker 16-07-2008 23:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607875)
that surprises me shaker,can appreciate you knowing very little about negotiations, but always gave ya credit fer having more sense than cyfr.

Just looking at the big picture cashman.
I claim to be no expert at all, just giving an opinion.

Neil 17-07-2008 00:02

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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 607860)
me too and I am one of the ones affected, although not in the union, my company only sets the pay through the union

I think you are in a slightly different position than the Council workers. Your company can make a pay rise relative to how well it is performing and the profits it is making.

Out of interest what percentage increase will be applied to the house/flat rents this year?

Rosencrantz 17-07-2008 00:13

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 607871)
You have a fine career in politics mapped out because you evade answering direct questions!! Gayle asked you to give examples of innocent people detained as suspected terrorists, no reply. And I asked you if our MP's were happy to in effect settle for less than a rise in their pay and once again you didn't answer!!! The world is your oyster as long as you stick to politics as you are quite adept on not answering questions just deflecting them!!!

Not to derail, but until you can give examples of terrorists that needed more than 28 days detention to convict your accusation is pretty hypocritical. Gutted.

(Sorry for derailing)

BERNADETTE 17-07-2008 00:20

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Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 607881)
Not to derail, but until you can give examples of terrorists that needed more than 28 days detention to convict your accusation is pretty hypocritical. Gutted.

Why is it hypocritical?? I did not say I would offer examples just that I would much rather the extra days in custody than any terroist slipping through the net!!!
May one ask why you have appeared again just to try and talk down to regular contributors??? You just appear to stick your oar in to try and stir things up without actually saying anything constructive!!!

Bonnyboy 17-07-2008 00:22

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The outcome should be that there is no pay rise in my opinion.
World recession is well documented, Brown has ferked up our own economy as I see it at the present.

People should always have the right to air a grievance with their employer, but I think the strikers have backed a losing horse in this instance.

We are all going to have to tighten our belts UNISON members too

cashman 17-07-2008 00:29

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 607883)
The outcome should be that there is no pay rise in my opinion.
World recession is well documented, Brown has ferked up our own economy as I see it at the present.

People should always have the right to air a grievance with their employer, but I think the strikers have backed a losing horse in this instance.

We are all going to have to tighten our belts UNISON members too

thats all well n good BB, but it NEVER starts from the TOP the tightening of the belts, just the peasants.:(

Eric 17-07-2008 00:30

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From what I read, MPs are not doing too well in the belt tightening department.:rolleyes:

cashman 17-07-2008 00:31

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 607882)
May one ask why you have appeared again just to try and talk down to regular contributors??? You just appear to stick your oar in to try and stir things up without actually saying anything constructive!!!

may i hazard a guess? he always seems to appear when cyfr has dug himself in a hole. i wonder why?:rolleyes:

Rosencrantz 17-07-2008 00:32

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 607882)
Why is it hypocritical?? I did not say I would offer examples just that I would much rather the extra days in custody than any terroist slipping through the net!!!
May one ask why you have appeared again just to try and talk down to regular contributors??? You just appear to stick your oar in to try and stir things up without actually saying anything constructive!!!

Why I do things is nothing to do with any of this.

You're holding Cyfr up to standards that you yourself can't meet. I'm sure he didn't say he could offer examples either. That's why it's hypocritical. If I continued it would utterly derail the thread, so I won't.

Eric 17-07-2008 00:33

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607884)
thats all well n good BB, but it NEVER starts from the TOP the tightening of the belts, just the peasants.:(

On this side of the big salty lake, MPs and MLAs vote themselves an increase whenever they feel that the voters are not paying attention:mad: Is it the same over there?

Rosencrantz 17-07-2008 00:34

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607886)
may i hazard a guess? he always seems to appear when cyfr has dug himself in a hole. i wonder why?:rolleyes:

OH NO YOU FOUND ME OUT! Dear everyone, I have no opinions of my own and I only ever talk when I want to anger cashman - er - I mean agree wholeheartedly with whatever Cyfr says.

cashman 17-07-2008 00:34

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 607888)
On this side of the big salty lake, MPs and MLAs vote themselves an increase whenever they feel that the voters are not paying attention:mad: Is it the same over there?

no over here the barstewards rub our noses in it.;)

Eric 17-07-2008 00:35

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Just a thought: if MPs had to strike for more money, who would really miss them ... ?

Eric 17-07-2008 00:36

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 607890)
no over here the barstewards rub our noses in it.;)

Are the bar stewards going on strike too:eek::eek::eek:

cashman 17-07-2008 00:40

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Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 607889)
OH NO YOU FOUND ME OUT! Dear everyone, I have no opinions of my own and I only ever talk when I want to anger cashman - er - I mean agree wholeheartedly with whatever Cyfr says.

grown ups have difficulty angering me, you child have no chance.:rolleyes:


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