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WillowTheWhisp

26-09-2008 23:47

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 635061)

No one can really know for sure what happened and both scientists and creationists absolutely believe that they are right. I just think that scientists and creationists are coming at the same thing but from different angles. Both think they have proof but both need a lot of faith to believe absolutely in their own points of view.

I think you're probably close to it with that. I believe the writers of Genesis and the rest of the Bible did their best to explain what they believed in but were limited in their understanding so could only explain in ways that made sense to them. For instance it's like the Native Americans calling the railway the 'iron horse'. It wasn't a horse but it was the only thing they could relate it to.

Neil	27-09-2008 01:54

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 635191)

For instance it's like the Native Americans calling the railway the 'iron horse'. It wasn't a horse but it was the only thing they could relate it to.

Thats not a good example - it was just a name they called the train in their own language. Just like the French called potatoes, apples of the earth.

accyman

27-09-2008 02:33

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lol this thread reminds me of one of ricky jervais's little speeches

he read from the bible and i forget the exact order but it went somthing like

god created thea earth etc then said let there be light and on the 7th day he rested

not only did god create all the wonderous things on our planet but according to the bible he did it all in the dark and then created light:rolleyes:

deep down i truely hope there is a god so that i can spit in his face before he sends me directly to hell

Neil	27-09-2008 03:03

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Maybe He was trying to surprise Himself when He turned the light on. :D

jambutty

27-09-2008 03:22

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 635191)

That is the point.

People believe in what someone else believed in.

jaysay

27-09-2008 08:58

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 635212)

That is the point.

People believe in what someone else believed in.

I think they call it natural progression JB.

Neil	27-09-2008 13:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 635231)

I think they call it natural progression JB.

Whats progressive about it? Sounds more like natural regression or standing still even.

jaysay

27-09-2008 13:49

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 635282)

Whats progressive about it? Sounds more like natural regression or standing still even.

No Neil, natural progression happens, my mother was a chatholic so am I, my Father was a Rovers supporter so am I, and that insidently is my first religion:D In Ince we trust:D

WillowTheWhisp

27-09-2008 15:31

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 635212)

That is the point.

People believe in what someone else believed in.

Everything we experience and learn in life is based on something which others experienced and learned before us. Initially perhaps that's true about religion but it isn't true about faith. Personally I used to look at people who believed what I now believe and sort of envied them but didn't believe they were right, if that makes sense. I didn't base my beliefs on others, not even the Biblical accounts really. I just thought it must be great to be that sure about something. I read as much as I could, and still do. None of it was worth tuppence though until I came to the reality of it for myself. Once I had that personal knowledge and faith it all made sense, but it isn't something you can give to anyone else or convince anyone of by logic, any more so than anyone could ever convince me otherwise now no matter how much they may ridicule.

Accyman, why would you want to go to hell? Seriously, if the day comes and you find out that there really is a heaven and a hell and you have chosen the latter by your own free wil, are you really going to be happy with that choice?

shakermaker

27-09-2008 16:05

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"God created evolution" LOL. Id God did, it wouldn't be your Abrahamic God would it? Or do scriptures mean nothing and you can make up your own interpretation to fit the latest evidence against all the Christian hocus pocus.

Neil	27-09-2008 16:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 635335)

Accyman, why would you want to go to hell? Seriously, if the day comes and you find out that there really is a heaven and a hell and you have chosen the latter by your own free wil, are you really going to be happy with that choice?

But as a non believer he has nothing to be scared off. Maybe it is your fear that their may be a hell that keeps you believing in God. Using our fears against us has always been an ancient method of ensuring our belief.

WillowTheWhisp

27-09-2008 16:53

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Just because someone doesn't believe in something doesn't mean it isn't there. Actually my own belief of Hell is that it is a personal realisation that you were wrong and could have had all the benefits of Paradise but denied yourself them because you refuse to believe they existed. It will be an eternity of self torment looking at what might have been. A bit like Jim Bowen tormenting the losers on Bullseye with "Now, let's look at what you would have won!"

accyman

27-09-2008 17:17

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well if there is a god he forgives all sins so not much point in hell existing realy is there?

sure as hell aint gonna live my life by a fairy tale book thrown together by a few mens loony rantings about people walking on water and parting great seas and many other storys probably dreamt up by people smoking too much of the magic herb

accyman

27-09-2008 17:18

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 635357)

. Using our fears against us has always been an ancient method of ensuring our belief.

religion dosnt work any more so now we are controlled by fear of terrorism

WillowTheWhisp

27-09-2008 17:39

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My religion isn't about fear. It's about joy.

Yes God forgives sinners, but not unrepentant ones.

accyman

27-09-2008 18:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 635400)

My religion isn't about fear. It's about joy.

Yes God forgives sinners, but not unrepentant ones.

is there any religion out there that lets you do as you like and guarentees entry to heaven because i could cope with that ?

West Ender

27-09-2008 20:07

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Even growing up as a good Convent schoolgirl, I could never reconcile myself to the "final repentance and forgiveness" idea. Take Adolf Hitler: just suppose that, in the minute before he blew his brains out in that bunker in Berlin, he saw the error of his ways and said, "I've been a bad boy but I'm really sorry now, God. Please forgive all my sins". Even if he meant it, would he deserve to have the slate wiped clean, despite having the deaths of millions of people on his hands?

It's too simplistic, though maybe I'm coming at this from the Roman Catholic angle which is, after all, the one in which I was educated. Catholicism has the concept of Purgatory, you pay for a while then, when you've done your "time", you get admitted to Heaven. It also has the anomoly that if you confess and repent your sins, at the moment of your death, it's, "Come home, Hermione, all is forgiven", and you go straight to Paradise (Do not pass Purgatory. Do not collect £200).

A very wise, highly educated and intellectual old nun, the headmistress of Paddock House School until she retired in 1955, once had a theological discussion with me and my form at school. Surprisingly, for a nun, she didn't have any of the romanticised notions of an after-life spent hymn-singing and "sitting at the right hand of God" that tend to be the norm. When asked to define Heaven, Sister Mary Anthony replied, "Heaven is a state of mind". It impressed me then and it still does.

jaysay

28-09-2008 09:26

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Well nobody relly knows if there is a heaven or hell, but it has often been said tha your heaven and hell are here on earth, life is what you make it, you make your own heaven and hell

mothernature

28-09-2008 22:40

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I find it quite ironic shaker maker you being a GOD member. :evil: Sorry

mothernature

28-09-2008 22:43

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 635231)

I think they call it natural progression JB.

Personally I call it Chinese Whispers

MargaretR

28-09-2008 22:48

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Originally Posted by mothernature (Post 636019)

I find it quite ironic shaker maker you being a GOD member. :evil: Sorry

We all get labelled 'god member' after a certain number of posts.
The way to avoid it is to make a donation to the running costs of the site.
Then you can call yourself anything.

mothernature

28-09-2008 22:54

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 636023)

We all get labelled 'god member' after a certain number of posts.
The way to avoid it is to make a donation to the running costs of the site.
Then you can call yourself anything.

Does idiot count?

katex

28-09-2008 22:54

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 636023)

We all get labelled 'god member' after a certain number of posts.

Well, if you notice found this default extremely sexist, so altered mine accordingly .. ;)

Royboy39

28-09-2008 23:01

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Originally Posted by mothernature (Post 636027)

Does idiot count?

Go for it...................:p

mothernature

28-09-2008 23:10

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 636032)

Go for it...................:p

First class idiot aboard

cashman

28-09-2008 23:14

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Originally Posted by mothernature (Post 636034)

First class idiot aboard

yer at the back of a long queue.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

WillowTheWhisp

28-09-2008 23:21

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:D never a truer word spoken

jaysay

29-09-2008 08:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 636037)

yer at the back of a long queue.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Yup cashy there's a lot of us on here, ad the list is stil growing:D:D

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