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jaysay

30-12-2008 03:58

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 664166)

I don't think that analogy holds much water.

Belgravia, Mayfair, and Kensington, is full of people from many Asian countries, yet has some of the most expensive real estate on the planet.

Cornwall has a very small immigrant population, and is suprisingly one of the poorest counties in England, with one of the lowest Gross Disposal Household Income per capita in the country, and that is reflected in the relatively low value of property there.

For the reason this area has a relatively low property value, if £100,000 for a typical terraced house can be considered low value, you'd have to look back to why so many houses were built for the immigrants who flooded in to the area seeking a better life for themselves and their families...in the nineteenth century.;)

And those immigrants came from mainly Ireland, but we've got our revenge we've sent um Gordie:D

steeljack

30-12-2008 04:21

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 664166)

Cornwall has a very small immigrant population, and is suprisingly one of the poorest counties in England, with one of the lowest Gross Disposal Household Income per capita in the country, and that is reflected in the relatively low value of property there.

.;)

I think that ( low property values) will be disputed by the local Cornishmen , I have friends who live there and there is a lot of resentment that when any property becomes available it is immediatly snapped up by out-siders willing to pay a premium price for a second 'holiday' home , leaving a shortage for the younger local population. Evidently these holiday homes also enjoy a substantial break on the Council tax since the house is un-occupied for the major part of the year ....don't know if this is a fact , but its what they tell me .

garinda

30-12-2008 09:10

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 664202)

I did say relative. I should have said relative to other south coast counties, all of which are relatively more expensive.

Cornwall is one of only four areas in the country that qualifies for poverty related grants from the EU. Apart from tourism, that is of course is seasonal, there are very few other industries there, now the mines are closed.

garinda

30-12-2008 09:17

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 664202)

Evidently these holiday homes also enjoy a substantial break on the Council tax since the house is un-occupied for the major part of the year ....don't know if this is a fact , but its what they tell me .

There used to be a 50% discount on second (furnished) holiday homes. The government reduced this discount, so you pay 90% of the full Council Tax now.

garinda

30-12-2008 09:25

Re: Politics.

An interesting article from The Independent, about the hidden poverty in Cornwall.

Cornwall: A land of haves, and have nots - This Britain, UK - The Independent

http://www.tearfund.org/News/A+hidden+poverty.htm

jaysay

30-12-2008 09:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 664217)

There used to be a 50% discount on second (furnished) holiday homes. The government reduced this discount, so you pay 90% of the full Council Tax now.

Wonder if Gordon pays 90% on Chequers:D:rolleyes:

cashman

30-12-2008 09:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 664219)

Wonder if Gordon pays 90% on Chequers:D:rolleyes:

if thats the case Maggie only paid 50% in her day, Cheapskate.:D

jaysay

30-12-2008 10:59

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 664221)

if thats the case Maggie only paid 50% in her day, Cheapskate.:D

Ya but Gordons changed the rules cashy:rolleyes:

cashman

30-12-2008 11:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 664247)

Ya but Gordons changed the rules cashy:rolleyes:

good change in my book, pity its not 100%.;)

andrewb

30-12-2008 12:32

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Charge them for services they don't use, sounds about right. Does this logic include somebody who rents their house out but currently have no occupant, although are keeping the house in top condition?

cashman

30-12-2008 13:42

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 664259)

of coarse they use em, i have to pay fer mine abroad n i do not object, if people are lucky enough to have the money to buy em, then they should pay, its that simple to me.

cashman

30-12-2008 14:17

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 664259)

thats one of the main things i despise about conservative mentality, (i got money, i want to keep it n pay sod all):rolleyes:

garinda

30-12-2008 15:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 664247)

Ya but Gordons changed the rules cashy:rolleyes:

Before Thatcher introduced the Poll Tax, the precursor to the Council Tax, local authorities could each decide what discount second/third home owners had to pay. The average paid, of the whole rateable value, was about 30-50%.

garinda

30-12-2008 15:04

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 664259)

Not totally sure, but I think in those circumstances you can have a six month 'holiday', and only pay 20%.

jaysay

30-12-2008 15:50

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 664276)

thats one of the main things i despise about conservative mentality, (i got money, i want to keep it n pay sod all):rolleyes:

Cashy my friend, Conservative is with a capital C if you please good sir:D

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