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Mancie 17-03-2009 08:22

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there's around ten to a dozen ranting and showing bad **** on placards...and we all get wound up... worse things have happend..they should be rounded up and charged and it probably will happen..people choose to forget the mass protests and murders that the IRA carried out..and the mass support they had... one law for the pakis another for the paddy's ?

Neil 17-03-2009 08:23

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 693174)
eh? I do recall the National Front marching in Blackburn.. massive stuff and even had a rally.. those people did not care where you came from nor religion or politics...they where concerned about colour.. times were hard in the 70's and the same ****e was churned out .. some older people should remember what it was like.. but i't's a shame the people that recall those times have now turned racist.

There is a difference between colour prejudiced, racist and religionist. I think many people are now religionist but use racist and colour prejudiced comments to describe the people they dislike just because they are used to hearing the words.

I don't dislike people for their colour, race or even religion. I dislike people for who they are. I have met people of all races, colours and religions, I like or dislike them for who they are, what they do and how they do it.

Mancie 17-03-2009 08:31

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 693188)
There is a difference between colour prejudiced, racist and religionist. I think many people are now religionist but use racist and colour prejudiced comments to describe the people they dislike just because they are used to hearing the words.

well I would agree with that Neil...and I'd say that some bods on here don't know the difference.. but then they ain't thick or stupid so I reckon they like to talk about colour to stir ****.

Wynonie Harris 17-03-2009 09:46

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 693192)
well I would agree with that Neil...and I'd say that some bods on here don't know the difference.. but then they ain't thick or stupid so I reckon they like to talk about colour to stir ****.

Never mentioned colour, never mentioned race. Just pointing out that what this lot did is unacceptable and the government should now be looking at either introducing or amending legislation to stop this sort of thing happening again.

Gordie 17-03-2009 10:19

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 691235)
Hundreds of thousands took to the streets to protest against us invading Iraq. I didn't protest, but totally opposed this war, which was sold as a lie about weapons of mass destruction, when really it was about securing a stable base amongst the oil fieds of the Middle East. However I totally support the the troops who are living and dying out there, and wouldn't dream at protesting at the home coming parade of the ones lucky enough to return.

If anyone doesn't like living in this country they are free to move elsewhere. I'm sure quite a few people would glady wave 'em off.

Frankly I'd be more than impressed if they gave up any benefits this country might afford them, child benefit, education, health care etc etc, but sadly I can't see them doing that, for they seem more than happy with that part of living in Britain.

This is the first post from you that I have come across that you have not defended Muslims behaviour in Britain.Maybe now Doris or is it Noris that you are seeing sense
:D :pph34r: :flamethro

jaysay 17-03-2009 10:21

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 693206)
Never mentioned colour, never mentioned race. Just pointing out that what this lot did is unacceptable and the government should now be looking at either introducing or amending legislation to stop this sort of thing happening again.

I think you may find Wynonie, that there is already legislation covering this type of offence, well it would be an offence if carried out by the indigenous population, its just that the police decided not to act on it, because they would have been accused of being racists or islamophobes by the chattering classes from the Guardian

Neil 17-03-2009 10:29

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 693206)
Never mentioned colour, never mentioned race. Just pointing out that what this lot did is unacceptable and the government should now be looking at either introducing or amending legislation to stop this sort of thing happening again.

We all ready have laws about inciting violence and race hate etc. That is the only law that needed as that is what they did wrong. Why the Police did use the laws we have is what needs correcting

Wynonie Harris 17-03-2009 10:53

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Well, in that case, surely Jacqui Smith should have hauled the Chief Constable of Bedfordshire police over the coals? What the chattering classes don't seem to grasp is that this type of thing is, unfortunately, a perfect recruiting sergeant for the likes of the BNP.

jaysay 17-03-2009 11:08

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 693234)
Well, in that case, surely Jacqui Smith should have hauled the Chief Constable of Bedfordshire police over the coals? What the chattering classes don't seem to grasp is that this type of thing is, unfortunately, a perfect recruiting sergeant for the likes of the BNP.

You know that and I know that, but there are those people who walk round with blinkers on until something untoward happens Wynonie then all hell breaks loose, an the fingers are pointed

Gordie 17-03-2009 11:14

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 691250)
I know some people even in Accrington who did openly support the IRA in the 70's...maybe they would not have taken murderous action but they did openly support the IRA...now we have a situation were some Muslims support terrorist actions carried out by extremists and all hell breaks loose...I'm being provocative.

I must admit you do seem to be more aware than most how large sections of some nationalities hold Britain in contempt while reaping all the benefits that Britain and her people give to these people.I live in Ireland and can say for a fact that not all but a large part of people here have a hatred for Britain.It seems to be indoctrinated in a lot of people.I also see mild discrimination and a dislike to people who are known not to be catholic.British tax payers pay large amounts of money to Europe and Ireland has benefited well from Europe.Britain imports almost 40% of Irelands exports helping towards employment yet many of its people would not hear mention of the contribution Britain gives to Ireland.I see a similar scenario with some Muslin countries and its peoples

Gordie 18-03-2009 20:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 693219)
I think you may find Wynonie, that there is already legislation covering this type of offence, well it would be an offence if carried out by the indigenous population, its just that the police decided not to act on it, because they would have been accused of being racists or islamophobes by the chattering classes from the Guardian

This is good coming from you.You are one of the first on here accusing posts of being racist.

jaysay 19-03-2009 09:34

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Originally Posted by Gordie (Post 693756)
This is good coming from you.You are one of the first on here accusing posts of being racist.

Your posts Gordie because they usually are:rolleyes:

***Mr D*** 26-03-2009 14:18

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I only saw a bit of this on TV.

However I received a Email the other day and I was disguisted with what I saw.

How can this be allowed.

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Now this would cause me alarm and distress If I was to witness this.

but is that not arrestable under section 5 of the Public order act?
Harassment, alarm or distress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Taggy 26-03-2009 14:29

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Was obviously a quiet day in the "Cloakroom"!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 26-03-2009 16:16

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I think its all been said before on here Mr D

magpie 26-03-2009 17:38

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I so wish I could say what I really feel about these: LOW LIFE.... however its not allowed in my own country is it: So best I keep my thoughts about them to myself... but mark my words.... a lot will really say just what they feel about them and action will be taken .... this summer will be a hot one in more ways than one.... I can feel the tension :

Bottom line the flipping lot of them what they have on film and the like... should be taken to the airport and kicked out of OUR country end of:

Gingerninja 29-03-2009 14:08

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Being married to the Army, working for the Army - living and breathing the Army.. i see all too much the pain and grieving that families go through when their brave, courageous, loved one has been killed in TELIC (Iraq) or HERRICK (Afghanistan). These selfless people are giving their lives..and their families lives and future..for democracy. They are fighting a real threat to our democratic way of life. The freedom of choice and right of equality. What these protestors are doing are mocking that freedom, mocking our Western way, mocking our right to live as free human beings. It is laughing in the face of the good, the decent, the brave and the general British public.. who may not support the wars..but at least are behind our troops 100%. The lads and lasses who come back need to feel proud, need to feel supported ..need to feel that the country is behind them because they are willing to give their lives for this green and once so pleasant land..the protestors should be rounded up and expelled from OUR country..they have the right to protest..but we should have the right to kick them out..that would be true democracy..

jaysay 29-03-2009 18:01

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Originally Posted by Gingerninja (Post 698076)
Being married to the Army, working for the Army - living and breathing the Army.. i see all too much the pain and grieving that families go through when their brave, courageous, loved one has been killed in TELIC (Iraq) or HERRICK (Afghanistan). These selfless people are giving their lives..and their families lives and future..for democracy. They are fighting a real threat to our democratic way of life. The freedom of choice and right of equality. What these protestors are doing are mocking that freedom, mocking our Western way, mocking our right to live as free human beings. It is laughing in the face of the good, the decent, the brave and the general British public.. who may not support the wars..but at least are behind our troops 100%. The lads and lasses who come back need to feel proud, need to feel supported ..need to feel that the country is behind them because they are willing to give their lives for this green and once so pleasant land..the protestors should be rounded up and expelled from OUR country..they have the right to protest..but we should have the right to kick them out..that would be true democracy..

I back your sentiments 100% Gingerninja

steeljack 29-03-2009 21:23

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 696912)
I only saw a bit of this on TV.

However I received a Email the other day and I was disguisted with what I saw.

How can this be allowed.

Now this would cause me alarm and distress If I was to witness this.

but is that not arrestable under section 5 of the Public order act?
Harassment, alarm or distress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


How stuff like that can be allowed as " freedom of speech' amazes me , its nothing more than incitement to violence , and the police just stand there allow it :eek: :eek:

BERNADETTE 29-03-2009 21:29

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 698184)
How stuff like that can be allowed as " freedom of speech' amazes me , its nothing more than incitement to violence , and the police just stand there allow it :eek: :eek:

And to top it off arrest two men who objected to it, scandalous!!!

Royboy39 29-03-2009 21:41

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 698184)
How stuff like that can be allowed as " freedom of speech' amazes me , its nothing more than incitement to violence , and the police just stand there allow it :eek: :eek:

Hands are tied in all sections of society including the police.
If arrests were made, public unrest would ensue, not from the law abiding citizens but from the communities which support this type of behaviour and have no regard for the law in any land.

jaysay 30-03-2009 08:56

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Originally Posted by Royboy 39 (Post 698189)
Hands are tied in all sections of society including the police.
If arrests were made, public unrest would ensue, not from the law abiding citizens but from the communities which support this type of behaviour and have no regard for the law in any land.

As some one who lives in another country, it goes without saying that you obey the laws of that country I have no doubt Roy, so why is it to much to ask that people settling in our country obey our laws and if they don't like it there are plenty of airports dotted about to enable them to return from whence they came

jaysay 14-04-2009 09:24

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Just thought I'd drag this thread up again. It appears that there was a peaceful protest in Luton yesterday, the focus of which was to reclaim our streets from the Muslim fanatics, it was held in exactly the same place where our homecoming troops were abused last month, and was meant to highlight the fact that neither council or police did nothing to stop these hate mongers spewing forth their abuse at our lads as the marched passed. Guest what, the police in full riot gear stopped the march, which has been named as breathe taking double standards, funny thing is I didn't see this mentioned on the news yesterday, although I may have missed it. One has to ask the question what the hell is going on in this country that used to be ours:(:(:(

Taggy 14-04-2009 16:49

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Like you say Jaysay, not heard anything at all about this protest. Done a quick google without finding anything mentioned. Certainly smacks of dual standards though. Perhaps the protesters should have disguised themselves under Veils, Burkas and Hijabs.

Best Regards - Taggy

Eric 14-04-2009 20:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 704125)
Just thought I'd drag this thread up again. It appears that there was a peaceful protest in Luton yesterday, the focus of which was to reclaim our streets from the Muslim fanatics, it was held in exactly the same place where our homecoming troops were abused last month, and was meant to highlight the fact that neither council or police did nothing to stop these hate mongers spewing forth their abuse at our lads as the marched passed. Guest what, the police in full riot gear stopped the march, which has been named as breathe taking double standards, funny thing is I didn't see this mentioned on the news yesterday, although I may have missed it. One has to ask the question what the hell is going on in this country that used to be ours:(:(:(

Does seem that freedom of speech has been more than a little distorted ... from what I could see in the pics, what the original protesters were doing was not exercising their freedom to speak and to protest, but promoting hatred ... in Canada, that is illegal; it has passed beyond freedom of speech ... and I do presume that you have similar laws. And while I'm at it, what in hell's name are we fighting for in Afghanistan, a place where they can propose a law making shiite women second, or third class citizens, at the mercy of their husbands and male relatives; where a leading female politician and activist is murdered by Taliban gunmen, who relish claiming responsibility .... I think it's time to pull out of their crappy little asshole of the world country, and leave them to fend for themselves.

And on a sad note, another Canadian soldier was killed in action yesterday in Kandahar province. Trooper Karine Blais, 21, of the Royal 22nd Regiment, Francophones from Quebec, was killed in a roadside bomb blast. Four other soldiers were injured. She was from a small town in the Gaspe region of Quebec; and she was the second woman kia while serving with the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan.

Taggy 15-04-2009 08:29

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Could'nt agree more, the sooner our troops are out of there the better. Its not a war we can every win, and more and more of our own people are going to die needlessly!


Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 15-04-2009 08:53

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 704436)
Does seem that freedom of speech has been more than a little distorted ... from what I could see in the pics, what the original protesters were doing was not exercising their freedom to speak and to protest, but promoting hatred ... in Canada, that is illegal; it has passed beyond freedom of speech ... and I do presume that you have similar laws. And while I'm at it, what in hell's name are we fighting for in Afghanistan, a place where they can propose a law making shiite women second, or third class citizens, at the mercy of their husbands and male relatives; where a leading female politician and activist is murdered by Taliban gunmen, who relish claiming responsibility .... I think it's time to pull out of their crappy little asshole of the world country, and leave them to fend for themselves.

And on a sad note, another Canadian soldier was killed in action yesterday in Kandahar province. Trooper Karine Blais, 21, of the Royal 22nd Regiment, Francophones from Quebec, was killed in a roadside bomb blast. Four other soldiers were injured. She was from a small town in the Gaspe region of Quebec; and she was the second woman kia while serving with the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan.

Promoting hatred is also a offence in this country too Eric, but is just depends who is promoting hatred though. As for Afghanistan it was one of Bubba's targets in his Axes of Evil crusade supported by his buddy Blair:(

onlyme 15-04-2009 19:18

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Well I'm pleased to say that some of the lads out there that were the deserving recepients of the Accyweb parcels over Christmas (and since as well) are due home very very shortly (RAF Permitting!) so I'd like to pass on their gratitude once more for everyones kindness and thoughts.

Theyve been through some hairy moments, but only one casualty, and are currently being fed and showered in Bastion lol

Thanks everyone for your help. If anyone wouldlike to continue to 'sponsor a squaddie', lol, please give me or Cherokee a shout. I have a patrol base of new lads and lasses that have just started withthe 24 ration packs, so I'm sure anything else would be gratefully recieved xx

emzy 15-04-2009 19:49

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 704742)
Well I'm pleased to say that some of the lads out there that were the deserving recepients of the Accyweb parcels over Christmas (and since as well) are due home very very shortly (RAF Permitting!) so I'd like to pass on their gratitude once more for everyones kindness and thoughts.

Theyve been through some hairy moments, but only one casualty, and are currently being fed and showered in Bastion lol

Thanks everyone for your help. If anyone wouldlike to continue to 'sponsor a squaddie', lol, please give me or Cherokee a shout. I have a patrol base of new lads and lasses that have just started withthe 24 ration packs, so I'm sure anything else would be gratefully recieved xx


Sponsor a squaddie eh!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

If i give just £3 a week will i get christmas cards and letters?? lol

onlyme 15-04-2009 19:52

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Originally Posted by emzy (Post 704747)
Sponsor a squaddie eh!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

LMAO!! OK, sponsor a squaddie or 40.

Just cos Cherokee isnt playing, dont start with me missis lol xx

See u in the morning x

emzy 15-04-2009 20:05

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Originally Posted by onlyme (Post 704749)
LMAO!! OK, sponsor a squaddie or 40.

Just cos Cherokee isnt playing, dont start with me missis lol xx

See u in the morning x

:D

No, on a more serious note, I will continue my donations and help with the parcels for support our soldiers :D

Eric 16-04-2009 22:53

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Trooper Karine Blais arrived home to CFB Trenton today. Her coffin was accompanied by comrades from the Van Doos, and was taken to Toronto along Highway 401 ... Canadians lined the highway to pay their respects. There were no protests. I have the feeling that none would have been tolerated.


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