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Is blood thicker than water, you do raise some questions susie. From my point of view I think I'm British first and foremost and that's all that will ever matters to me, on the personal level, I'm very strongly protective of my own, as in family, as I would think most people are, but we are now having or own values totally overran by the PC brigade, unfortunately

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I don't see where the PC issue comes in Jaysay? :confused:

That's a very broad question Susie, would depend to some point on what the situation was I suppose. But if you say blood is thicker than water, and it means disregarding your own principles about something major, I would say no..

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not necessarily, i always say, ya can choose yer friends, but not yer family.;)

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The dynamic what? Oh, I see, it's some sort of jargon. Have a go at this quiz: BBC NEWS | Magazine | Midweek quiz: Council jargon

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Why on earth there should be a dynamic is beyond me. It's just a simple yes or no, depending on circumstances. What's your opinion susie?

Why do I feel like we are part of research for a thesis? Is it just me?

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dynamic isn't jargon. It's just a word.
What's the problem with me using it?

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Its not personal from me. It's an attempt to open up a discussion with people who may be able to offer some great points of view
Thats all. Its about reaching out
Why are you so pointedly hostile and defensive?

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don't see anyone being hostile? :confused:

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What is your take on the question susie?? You've neglected to tell anyone what you think.

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mine?
Oh I witness people who do turn their back on their own family.
They have many reasons, all viable to them. That's how they feel.
Then I suppose there is discussion points around culture, sex and age that may affect the closeness and loyalty.
I haven't any set response and am interested to hear, listen and learn stuff.

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What is a dynamic? I've always understood dynamic to be an adjective, not a noun.

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I always thought that to teach them to spell was more important.As for blood much better in the ethnic puddings:D:D

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I did say 'the dynamic' that would suggest it's use as a noun.
Think I would have just looked it up by now if it was worrying me

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"Dynamic" wasn't jargon, but now it is, mainly due to people like politicians, who want to sound important (like saying "at this point in time" instead of "now" ... I personally eschew obfuscation.;)

I am assuming, from the general nature of the question, and from a couple of responses, that you are not referring to "family" in the limited sense, but in the more general sense of "community" or "nation" .... just in case I'm wrong, I'll stop here. Don't want to seem silly by answering a question that might not have been asked:D

By the way, it is "my using it" not "me using it" .... forgive me; I'm having a pedantic day;):D

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If that is the case the question should have been clearer. (or reprphrased)

Blood being thicker than water usually means family over principles to me? :confused:

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oh its clear enough if you open your mind then rather than boxing it into a set definition you own
Anyways now we all sort of understand the question and the language patterns
what do you think?

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I personally could not envisage myself falling out with family but, like yourself susie, I have seen families who have, shall we say, disintegrated for one reason or another.
It takes a lot of hard work to ensure the family dynamic stays strong from all those involved. Sometimes it will take just one loose word or action for things to begin to unravel and if the bonds are not close then blood will certainly not be thicker.

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So where are the perimeters of your box then? Blood and water doesn't mean country to me...and many others. As I said it's a broad question. Tell us exactly what you want?

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like I said caz hostile and unwelcoming

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I just looked it up in the Cambridge Dictionary Online:

dynamic Show phonetics
adjective
having a lot of ideas and enthusiasm; energetic and forceful:
She's young and dynamic and will be a great addition to the team.
We need a dynamic expansion of trade with other countries.

By the way you don't need an apostrophe in its. I'll leave you to look that up.

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I know, the apostrophe is by choice and being chipped away at
soon we will be able to lose all punctuation n talk in text
<baffled at these responses>

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It was a simple question susie. I too have responded using the family as the medium due to that being the usual thing. I have never heard the term 'blood thicker than water' used in the wider community sense - unless it's a very small yorkshire village!

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Why is asking questions hostile and unwelcoming? Why is asking for a precise definition of you want unwelcoming?

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But the first response you recieved talked of "blood" in terms of nation, and in terms of "blood relatives". I don't think that a dynamic (if you wish to use a term which seems to be trying, with no little success, to escape from precise meaning) applies in terms of immediate family ... "nature" or "instinct" would seem to act here. But one could respond to the implied question: Do you believe in "my country right or wrong". That might not be what you are asking, hon; but the implication is definitely there.

Unless someone tries to stick the lid back on the can of worms, this could be fun:mosher: eh.

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Oh sorry did I use your phrasology in a sarcastic way. :eek:

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because its pedantic and becoming typical of your responses to me caz
Thats all
You are obviously highly intelligent yet choose to ask the most superfluous questions

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Eric......think it is going to need a bigger tin :)

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well
we all heard the phrase
'blood's thicker than water' I'm sure

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Or a bigger BOX :D

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well no caz it just made you sound a bit thick tbh

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If you had made your question clearer from the beginning there would have been no need for her to ask.
Your seeming irritation stems from your failure to do so

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Erm yes... and I seem to remember answering that? :confused: why is that superfluous?

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However, in certain countries, at certain times in history "blood" has been used as a synonym for "nation". Nazi Germany comes immediately to mind ... "blut" was the dynamic (oops ;)) that drove government policy.

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Did you read my post??

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what did?

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And don't you think this comment makes you sound just a little bit patronising?

I enjoy a good debate, but for some reason I can't quite see the point of this thread.

Why did you pose the question?

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Usually yes,But in my case I'm not so sure.:rolleyes:

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Trying a bit of oneupmanship it seems like to me, coming across as very pompous.

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I don't want to appear 'thick' too:rolleyes:- but what is 'tbh'?
Text speak is against the rules here

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to be honest - margaret

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ah dont be silly
Its just a discussion point
Yes I did churchman. thank you

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She still hasn't stated what the perimeters of her BOX are...

does she mean family ...or what...:confused:

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Having given this a little more thought since I first contributed to this thread I have to say that blood isn't always thicker than water. My late mother fell out with her sister, something which effected the whole family, the consequences being that didn't speak to my Aunt for over 20 years, and won't get the chances now because she is now no longer with us, but I am still trying to contact my cousin who lives Blackpool way and have actually been helped in my quest to find her by GC and hopefully I will be able to build bridges before its to late

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Really!!!! and this from one who admits to frequent lies - can you really believe she meant it?:D

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lol!!!

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ah jaysay, that's very sad. All that time lost
Good luck with that

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no answer then, from someone who says this

Come on then, where are we going wrong?

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She is from Planet Susie - different language:D

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the reference was to your box caz

sigh...

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This expressed frustration was of your own making

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margaret
be honest
you are a bully

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Help is available,when you find it PM me:confused:

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We would be interested in how you feel personally Susie, not what you think you see from the outside. You ask for our responses, now give us YOUr own personal view

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I admit to being short on patience with people with pretensions

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like a pack of animals bullying a newbie
you really are bizarre
I openly state several times Im simply reaching out and on every turn you have made that very hard work
Im amazed at the lack of awareness there but its a great reminder of how very kind and empathic I am around people who feel unsure and in unfamiliar territory and offer them a hand of support and encouragement

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Yup, think you're right ... I got a 40 gallon drum in my garage ... use it for garbage .... which might actually be appropriate:rolleyes::D

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where are the prentions margaret?
what am I pretending about?
you have name called and made wicked insinuations about me all along with a couple of others
I have ignored most of them because I have spoken with some truley lovely members here
why?

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What!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek: ... Ok., I guess you aren't familiar with Canadian slang .... and I'm not allowed in the over 18s; so I can't explain.:mad: Sometimes I feel so foreign:D

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Because you described a fellow member as thick - now is that really how you should win friends here?

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I really do think this thread <on the whole> is simply a bullying, snapping snarling demonstration of humanity at its worst
oh n dont correct the typo
Its a harmless non inflammatory attempt to open discussion where everyone can own a view

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Pretension...claim or aspiration to something.... :) don't think you are reading Margaret correctly. :D

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oh margaret that was said after much trolling and nastiness towards me and I said it made her sound thick, I also said she was obviously highly intelligent

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I am not snarling or bullying you - you were asked to explain your question and you responded with contempt

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to what caz?
show me what Im aspiring to?
Where is the badness

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Was that a lie?

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nah margaret no contempt, you are just defending something that sint going on for me
I dont think like that

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Nah, it's just you trying to prove you are better than everyone else from my view. You ain't answering questions, but you accuse people of bullying. Ain't you been on a forum before????

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no margaret it deonstrates you total lack of self awareness and the impact of what you are doing
Go on question yourself, I have myself on many occasions n it aint always very pretty
But...I learn from it

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aint you been in d real world before caz
How rude

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Margaret a bully:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: shock horror:rolleyes:

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so go on caz
where am I trying to be better than you?
I cant ever be better than you unless you think you arent good enough

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The viscosity of blood is around three to four times that of water. In my considered opinion this is undoubtedly true for the population as a whole. This particular dynamic is influenced by three factors - hematocrit (the proportion of blood volume that is occupied by red blood cells), temperature and flow rate.

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so go on caz
where am I trying to be better than you?
I cant ever be better than you unless you think you arent good enough

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ah well Im sure thats fed some of you for a while
Im off to do something very cerebral now like watch Paris Hilton's growing ego on tv

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Iagree with cashman with what he say,s, its a bout right

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nope , not even before i open my mouth either :D



as for is blood thicker than water all i can say is i used to hit my brother and call him names when we were kids but if anyone else did it i would kick their ass defending him

had to stop slapping him about when he grew about 4 inches taller than me and a lot wider :D

family is a weird thing as in they can annoy the hell out of you to the point you want nothing to do with them ever again but as soon as somone outside the family has a shot at them you jump to their defence lol

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Susie, if you are going to come on here, you have to take the brickbats as well as the plaudits.

That's how you come accross Susie. Maybe you should think about that. How dare you call me rude when you say I am thick? :confused:

You still haven't answered the question from your own personal point of view by the way.... :confused:

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Well there's one thing which is very apparent , your a very feisty young lady susie, wonder where the hell you get that from:rolleyes::D

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Like I said POMPOUS and PRETENTIOUS. who do you think you are, talking down to us like that.

And Yeah you still haven't answered the question, have you!!!!!!!!!

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Methinks we have a Blazey MarkII

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Susie. Nobody is bullying anybody here. People have been asking for a little more clarity as to what you are after with your original question. You seem hell-bent on stirring up a hornet's nest of trouble by calling others thick and saying you are being treated with hostility when, from what I have seen, you continually refuse to answer a simple question. No matter who you are you cannot come on a forum as a newbie and insult people you don't know. You have to first earn respect and trust which, sadly, you seem to have destroyed with your first steps hence your heightened feelings of rejection.
If you are very kind and empathic then maybe learning a few more manners will no doubt enforce this.
I like the questions you have been posting as they do open up discussions amongst members on here but come on, play by the rules. Post your question and your response to the question in PLAIN english. Not everyone on here is bright as a button and understands big and clever words but they do have opinions and have a right to express them. If they don't understand the 'dynamic' of a question you have to be prepared to explain it thoroughly. If that isn't your cup of tea then a forum is not the place you should be....

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Oh my god I'm a troll now!!! :D do I get a prize for that. :D:D:D

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That is a very strange way of spelling thick pilchard.:D:D

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That wasn't adressed to you - this thread is moving so fast that it was out of context

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no but you get to sit on the end of a pencil :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/...3dbdbdf035.jpg

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She's not a relative of yours, is she, John? ;)

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oooh, behave.....:D

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Na Steve, she far to outgoing than that, my kids wouldn't come on here and take people to task like Susie does, I'd smack their bottoms if they did, there's only one bully from our family allowed on here, and that's me:D

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Very glad to hear it. You've already shocked me once on this thread by announcing that you're getting help from a dingle! :D ;)

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Ya think she'll get that, then? ....:D

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Well I didn't - had to google - I must be thick:rolleyes:

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Thank you ... so what happens when someone gets too much blood in his/her (pcism) alcohol stream?:confused:

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I think we all are...on susies planet.... :)

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The initial question: harmless it may be, non-inflamatory, ok ... but clear, it ain't ... I don't think I'm all that thick either (unless you listen to the opinion of the (probably late) Sam Wignall)).:rolleyes:

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the initial question is not very clear at all, no matter what ya say susie!! i'm beginning to wonder if yer a "Social Worker" on acid?:D

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Social worker on acid:eek: I like that ... probably describes most ministers of the crown in Westminster.:D

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I don't know. I'll tell you when it happens to me. ;)

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Ottawa too, come to think of it.