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They may be following the rules but, firstly, they devised their own rules and secondly, they are certainly not keeping within the spirit of the rules. In fact, they are bending the rules to satisfy their own greed. Obviously, a MP who lives in the provinces needs some sort of accommodation in London, but an MP who classifies a London flat as a second home, decorates and furnishes it on public funds, then switches the second home status to their family home in the provinces in order to stock that up with goodies is leeching off us, the taxpayers. Then, when they are discovered with their snouts in the trough, to launch into a sanctimonious whine about how it's somehow the fault of the system is adding insult to injury! No one forced them to make such outlandish claims.

Don't agree with the above, either. Think Hazel Blears - a Salfordian representing a Salford constituency.

Also, there are a few MPs on both sides who have been fair and reasonable in the claims they make...so it's not inevitable that MPs make large-scale claims because of the system.

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I think I have been tollerant with some of your submissions because Cashy is Cashy.....I have just heard Hazel Blears squirm on tv about why she used a twisted system and she too has been caught out.
The only loosers in this saga is the taxpayer.
As for getting real, I think I am not the only one who thinks this is a shower of bent pratts in both parties who have taken advantage of you and me and the rest of the British Public.:rolleyes:

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if ya care to take notice of my submissions as ya call em i have said more than once "all" parties are guilty, meaning all parties, but i have declined to take cheap shots at any of em unlike you, fer my point of view all tarred with same brush. but people like you just can't resist, fair enough if its just 1 side thats wrong, slag away,i do whoever it is.:rolleyes:

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well we all know an Englishmans home is his castle....but it seems if you are aTory MP then you can get your moat drained and maintained using public money..for most of us common folk your lucky if you get the street sweeped!

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The way public mood is going, he is gonna need to fill the moat again:)

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The last MP DID actually live in Hyndburn:rolleyes:

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It was nice to see Hazel Blears in the paper showing the £13332 cheque she is sending to the Inland Revenue, however as she incorrectly completed her tax return with a material omission, I`m sure HM Revenue and Customs may want to look into the issue of interest due ( £13332 x 3.25%) and penalties (between 20-70% of tax avoided) and ask her to divvy up a little further!

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As does Greg. And as far as I know Ken was a hard working MP for his town. Like Greg, he was a local lad who wanted to represent his friends, neighbours, colleagues and the people of the town he came from. I'm not having a go at Greg or Ken on this so I'm not sure what your point is.

I'm having a go at MPs like Kitty Ussher from Burnley who was selected for Burnley without having ever lived in the town. She then rented a house up here for the campaign and then bought a house after being elected. She's a career MP and in my mind, that's not the right reason for being a candidate for a town - I think MPs should be local people for the local town.

I'm sure there are exceptions - Hazel Blears is obviously one of them. Even though she represents her own area of Salford.

I'm also sure there are other exceptions of people who have never visited a town before being elected who are doing a great job for that area now. You mention Arthur Davidson but lets face it, that was over 20 years ago - not exactly a current example!

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I'm not sure he does live in Hyndburn does he? I always thought it was Blackburn. Very close anyway, I'm just being pedantic. :)

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That's just what my Daughter said, and she worked for Revenue and Customs for 19 years:rolleyes:

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Just like I was Andrew, he does live in Blackburn :D

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the "spin machine" is pretty active ... the oil rags on here trying to detract the disgust felt into a local issue..when the real story is that the Lords and Ladies of the Tory party sit back in comfort with the knowledge that the public will have to pay for thier upkeep!... it disgusts me that working class people lick the boots of thier Tory Masters...you are scum!

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Come on Mancie , you, me and every other working class 'git' have allways known that the 'their Nibs' have allways screwed the workers , whats galling folks is the fact that Labour politicians , the ones who used to sing 'Jerusalem' in Methodist chapels are up to the same Tory tricks .....
Seems to me its time for a revival of "Old Labour" ...but that would mean that folks take some sort of responsibility for themselves and not depend on the State for every thing, Old labour's promise was to provide a crutch till the wound/hardship healed, New Labour promise seems to be screw the wound/hardship we will just provide an aspirin . :confused: :confused:

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So, how exactly do you claim £16,000 for a mortgage you've paid off "by mistake"?

Time to call the rozzers in!

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And that's not a Tory Lord either its a lying labour toe rag Mancie:D

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Camerons aide gone!

He and his wife are both MP's. They have two houses one in London one in constituency, and they were both claiming second home allowance for each house. Giving them two second homes and not one. He should be deselected!

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Must admit, that thought crossed my mind. If his sheenanigans make him not fit to be aide, surely he's not fit to be an MP? Same goes for his missus, too!

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You are all being pedantic. He was brought up in Hyndburn - Great Harwood.

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but doesn't live in Hyndburn now Gayle:D and when he was brought up Great Harwood was Ribble Valley:rolleyes:

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I'm surprised Greg has not been on here with his contribution. Still, you know what they say..."When the sh*t hits the fan.........."


Ooops.....just seen the other thread!

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if you are i are discovered de-frauding folk then you or i get prosecuted! whats the difference?:(

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I notice that one name that is notable so far by it's absence is that of the speaker, Michael Martin. I wonder if his brutal savaging of the MP Kate Hoey may have anything to do with the fact (some of you will remember) that several years ago this Scottish scoundrel was also caught with his hands in the taxpayer's till when he claimed for his missus's shopping jaunts around London's West End. Personally, I think the man is a disgrace as speaker and representative of the house and the only seat he should have in the capital is that in the dock of the number one court, the Old Bailey, alongside that of his compatriots, messrs Brown and Darling.

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Good. Hope this is the first of many.

The TaxPayers' Alliance - Campaign: Why we have called the police in to investigate MPs' expenses

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its a start, but whats the odds on it being swept under the carpet?:rolleyes:

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I don't see how he can be innocent, surely he knew the mortgage had been paid off. It is absolutely deplorable that any MP would stoop so low:mad:

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If so, then will Gordon Brown be able to claim it with his cleaner's expenses?

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who knows?all parties are guilty of having cheating *******.:rolleyes:

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I see Brown has just chucked Morley out the PLP; the usual political ploy of a sacrificial lamb in the hope that the scandal will die down. Some hope!

It ain't much better over in the other house - that half-wit from Blackburn, Lord Taylor has also been slung out the Upper House, the first time that's happened since the days of Charles the First. Is it to much to hope that our current Charles will lead a column of Challenger tanks down Whitehall, stopping off at Downing Street to fire a few rounds through the doors of No's 10 & 11 respectively, before proceeding down to Parliament Square and then lay waste the sorry shambles of our so-called representatives??

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keep posting the good news T. yer making cashy very happy.:)

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The trouble is, Cashy, it ain't good news - its bad and can't get any worse. We were all used to the occaisional shananigins of our MP's - getting the leg over in some dodgy Soho massage parlour, a bit of up the bum on Clapham Common, a few used fivers in brown envelopes - but this time it's practically the lot of 'em who've been on the fiddle. It is a complete and utter collapse in what remains of any confidence in our MP's and their role and like everyone else on here, I just despair. Does anyone have a solution?

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well its good news to me T. i have bin saying they are shysters n frauds fer last 15 yrs or so, n people thought i was strange.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: the chickens have come home to roost n i am delighted.;)

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Aye, but they're only going back through the records for the last 4 years....this expenses lark has been going on for 25 years. Those that were there and gone will get clean away and I doubt if we will see one of the current lot formally pay back the full amounts they pilfered - never mind any criminal charges being brought.

Let's see if the Torygraph has 'owt to say over the Speaker tomorrow.

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oh i agree completely, but am still delighted they have come unstuck n whatever the outcome have no doubt it will be a damn site harder to rob the public in the light of these exposures.:)

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A few weeks ago on this forum AndrewB was slated for using the FOI Act to discover, what local politicians were claiming as expenses.
Several National newspapers requested information as to MP's expenses and where given a date when the information was to be released, possibly in an abridged version.
The information was released by a 'Leak', good word that, and the dung hit the fan.
With European Elections and some Local Elections coming up my question is:
Will you be casting a vote?

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Oh come on Bernie the poor lad forgot, it was a genuine mistake, and he's apologiesed, what more can he do:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Just depends whether its within the rules or not Tealeaf:rolleyes::D

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Your not allowed to be to happy cashy, you've had your share this week when the Rovers were safe:D

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I always vote Roy, because if you don't its no use moning when things go tits up

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A none voter is just another vote for the winners, if you dont vote against them, you may as well have voted for whoever gets in power, it is long overdue that this was exposed (the fraudulant expenses), it has been going on for years and still is going on, I have been of the opinion for a long time, that the main reasons to become an MP are to line thier own pockets, and to massage an over inflated ego.

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this is the best thing since sliced bread.somebody must have upset rupert murdoch and co.......:D:D:D every day somebody else is outed long may it continue..this is one of the reasons they mede it more expensive to run for council or an mp because they must have known the poo was going to hit the fan.whats the alternative going to be when you go to polls:confused:

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Glad you said 'outed'... noone has been ousted yet, which is no surprise, and if they did, they would be back in office, in another department in no time. :rolleyes:

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According to todays Daily Mirror, Jack Straw says " MP`s need some restrictions on what is being made public, we should be accountable for what we spend but some of the information has been gratuitously personal " Which is similar to the arguments against ID cards, if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about.
Other MP`s were furious "legitimate" expenses were being axed, meaning people from poor backgrounds could be prevented from becoming MP`s. What absolute patronising claptrap.

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I found this and had to share the smile :)

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Excellent sketch from the Independent on Mad Gord's election launch yesterday. His description of the assembled cabinet minsters is a corker.

The Sketch: Vote Labour! Yes, that really was the message - Simon Carr, Commentators - The Independent

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I have to say I've never read the independent Wynonie, but that was hilarious, I had the same reaction I have when reading Lesses posts:D:D:D

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to be fair at the time GB claimed expenses for cleaning he was not married..he didn't have anyone to do the cleaning.;)

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It looks like Speaker Martin is is finally going to make a statement this afternoon. What do you think he will say?

a) I'm guilty of a cover up and I shall now retire to my grace and favour apartment with a bottle of brandy and a loaded revolver and do the honourable thing.

b) I'm guilty but I'll resign at the end of this parliament (providing I get my one hundred grand payoff to which I will then be entitled).

c) I'm innocent and the rest of the members are innocent of all charges so it's business as usual.

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I think B, I doubt he'll announce that he's guilty though!

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I reckon he'll end up with a cushy job on the EU gravy train. That's what most governments do with troublesome/tainted/has-been types that they want to get out of the way. Then he'll be able to enjoy expenses and all sorts of goodies beyond his wildest dreams!

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He was, of course, claiming the second home allowance for his Glasgow home town and constituency while at the same time living in his grace and favour apartment in the Palace of Westminster.

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I'm with B also n more chance of him being "Struck Wi Lightening" than saying I'm Guilty.

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Oh yes, he certainly has his snout firmly in the trough, as has his missus. That's why he has a vested interest in keeping the whole racket going.

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He's making the final touches to his speech. Not long now....

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Na................Hes on the phone to his mate Tam to take advice on what he can claim before retirement. :)

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Nah...he flew up there to meet him last week so he could pick up his air miles.

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Sack the lot of them, flawed system that allows the rules to be bent out of all proportion they wont be brought to task Watch. Dont worry its within the rules. MPs are already on income support. Our money has and is doing a good job.

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Could someone please translate?

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It looks like the Euro MPs are burning evidence of their fiddling
EUobserver / Fire breaks out in EU commission building

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Any the wiser? :rolleyes::)

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Yep, he's determined to hang on to his privileged existence with all its attendant goodies for as long as he can...probably 'til the election next year. And when he does go, it'll either be off to the Brussels gravy train or upstairs to the Lords gravy train, with a nice, fat pension to look forward to...all for carrying out a job with the sort of incompetence that you or I would be sacked for. :rolleyes:

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So the trough is being scoured clean with what are supposed to represent us with their claims but here is another point; "What about those that sit in the devolved parliments and also Westminster as well? this is costing big time as they get allowances from both. Sure Ian Paisley snr does along with Alex Salmond our First Minister and in Ian's case is also/was a MEP.

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The Speaker as announced that he will make a statement this afternoon saying he is standing down, BBC News report 11am

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...Let's now see what his redundancy package is.

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looks like the Government will have the independant enquiry for MP's expenses.. one of the proposals from Labour is that MP's should be made to fill a timesheet..no problem..but the Tory MP Alan Duncan has opposed this saying that he is so busy with his 4 or 5 other jobs he has not the time!.. class

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A £1.4 million pension pot and a place on the Lords gravy train. This, for a man who allowed MPs to get away with all sorts of expenses scams and then spent our money trying to cover it up.

At the same time, Mad Gord is telling us that Parliament will not be a "gentleman's club" anymore.

Oh sure... :rolleyes:

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And all this from a man who has spent his life hatting Toffs and despising The Lords, but hey £77,000 a year to fall back on for making history and as you say a seat on the Lords gravy train, trouble is Labour talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

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I never knew he was a gents milliner :confused:

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The expenses disclosures are just the beginning....and we still have a way to go before they are complete. Next in line should be the revealing of full details of those MP's who have placed their WAGS, friends and other relations on the public payroll, be it typist or teaboy. A few of those have previously been named - lets see more.

But we can't stop there. Seventy-five percent of legislation affecting England is drawn up and passed in Brussels, with barely a nod from our MP's. That leaves them with an awful lot of time to pass on other matters, and other than completing dodgy expense claims, most do other things. So we need a full list of all their directorships, consultancies, retainer arrangements and lobbying relationships. We then need to know exactly what they have been paid for such moonlighting and we need to know how they have voted in the house and what they have said in committee in respect of these interests. In fact, every MP should not just be publishing his expenses, but he should be publishing a full list of his activities to include daily time sheets on an hour-by-hour basis and a full statement of all his income from whatever scource. And if they don't like it, they can always get another job

That rogue Martin has finally gone, but you can't help thinking MP's are like a gang of masked bank robbers who when collared come out with the proverbial "Society is to blame excuse" and then finger the look-out man. Pathetic.

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Seemingly Italian 'MP's' are just paid 8,000 euros for expenses on top of their salary without any need to justify what they spend it on !

Personally, I think this is a much better system ... sort out your own living accommodation, moats, taxis, staff, etc., sink or swim on this and don't come back for more, 'cause you won't get it. Savings in administration and controversy would be enormous.

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Just quoting Mancie, Margaret:D

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That's very heartless kate, how would the poor lambs survive in the Metropolis on such a pittance:rolleyes:

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Where did you find that kate?

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Are Europe's MPs paid too much?


The basic salary for senators is 5,235 euros (£4,214) a month, but on top of that they claim daily expenses, which on average amount to an extra 4,000 euros (£3,220) a month.
They receive free flight and train tickets to and from Rome and they are also allowed to claim further expenses for travelling by car.
When you factor in the average phone bill - 340 euros (£270) a month - the real monthly income, say the authors, is nearer to 12000 euros (£9,650) a month. The politicians are expected to pay their researchers out of this monthly income but research shows that on average secretaries and researchers are paid between 500 and 1500 euros a month - a fraction of the money that is claimed.

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Did omit to say 8,000 euros per month ..:)

Was a feature on the Chris Evans show last night Shill ... 'things you have found out for the first time today'. Foxy (the financial presenter), said this is what she had just found out. Will run it again on Iplayer to check was not hearing things..... just found it, that is definitely what she said.
"8,000 on top of their salaries, and they don't even have to justify it"

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Perhaps they're all waiting for the publication of Cllr. Peter Britcliffe's guidebook 'Living well off expenses, whilst in in London'.;)

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I am sure it will go immediately to the top of the best sellers list. :rolleyes:

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Ah ... there you are .... have been missing yer pooh-stirring .... :D:D

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I agree Andrew. We need transparency. It's our money and we need to know how it is being spent.

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Especially on this issue I've been stirring bigger cess pits of late.:D

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Probably as high as G. Joneses guide to must do road repairs:rolleyes:

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That per month does make a tad of difference me thinks kate:D

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It is rumored that David Cameran now has a sign on his desk proclaiming.


THE DUCK STOPS HERE.:hidewall:

Start the car.

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He really takes the biscuit.

Just as long as someone ls paying for that biscuit.

:(:eek::(

'Mr Steen, the MP for Totnes in Devon, claimed £87,729 over four years for a variety of services including the care of 500 trees at his Devon property.'

'The MP said in an interview on Thursday lunchtime: “I think I behaved, if I may say so, impeccably. I have done nothing criminal, that’s the most awful thing, and do you know what it is about? Jealousy.'

“I have got a very, very large house. Some people say it looks like Balmoral, but it’s a merchant house of the 19th century''

“It’s not particularly attractive, it just does me nicely and it’s got room to actually plant a few trees.”

'Mr Steen claimed for a forestry expert to inspect 500 trees in the grounds of his estate, among other services'

“As far as I am concerned and of this day I still don’t know what all the fuss is about.”

“What right does the public have to interfere with my private life? None. Do you know what this reminds me of? An episode of Coronation Street.''

'He also blamed the Freedom of Information Act'

Anthony Steen: 'voters are just jealous of my very, very large house' - MPs' expenses - Telegraph

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Engines running Beni, mind you, £1600 for a duck platform seems quite reasonable when HMG has just paid scientists £300,000 at Oxford University, to research whether ducks prefer fresh water or rain water:rolleyes:

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Every Party has its cuckoo's Rindi ours are people like this clown. Labours are the Mandies of the World, who should have had is collar felt by the Sweeney a long time ago, but know its Lord Mandy, he could at least have taken the name Lord Mandelson of the Flyboys:rolleyes:

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As stated earlier, it's traditional for arrogant twits in the party you support, to milk the system, what's more galling are all the others that are at it.;)

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I'm amazed the people who are approving the claims, signing off on them, haven't been suspended.

People are people and will look to exploit any loophole they can and once it becomes accepted as the norm and something they can get away with then you're heading for trouble.

While the lax oversight is astonishing in this case it also looks like the fees office have actually been colluding in this all along and advising MPs how to get away with each dodge.

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Expenses latest:

Story 1) Andrew MacKay has just said he's stepping down as a Tory MP at the next election after a punishing constituency meeting last night in which he was barracked by voters.
He's the man who together with his wife, Julie Kirkbride MP, managed to get the taxpayer to pay for both the couple's homes using the allowance system.
He was parliamentary aide to David Cameron until the story broke.

Story 2) Sir Peter Viggers' duck house is in storage. The Tory MP who is stepping down at the next election has apologised and said he feels humiliated over his expenses. And the ducks didn't even like their palatial quarters apparently.

Story 3) The Archbishop of Canterbury has written a very thoughtful piece in the Times about MPs revealing their lack of integrity over expenses. However he warns the humiliation should now stop - the point has been made, he claims.
He worries that the continuance of it will damage the very notion that politics should be a calling worthy of the most generous instincts.

Story 4) Lots of MPs at the cleaner end of the spectrum have started publishing their own expenses, before they get turned over by the Telegraph. First in the shadow cabinet is Dominic Grieve, and there's not a lot to get excited about in his.

Story 5) Channel 4 news have been filming one of the most vilified Tory MPs, James Gray - he's the one who claimed for decorating his ex-wife's home after admitting he had an affair with his diary secretary while his wife had cancer. He is distinctly unapologetic.

C4 News also talking live to communities minister, Sadiq Khan about the scandal, the Archbishop's worries and the future of Mr Khan's boss Hazel Blears.

Another minister, Caroline Flint, leapt to her defence today in The Times suggesting she'd done nothing wrong technically and shouldn't be punished.



MPs' expenses - what they claimed: http://tinyurl.com/o555sl

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whats really galling about this debacle, is the " I Did Nowt Wrong" brigade, from all political parties, those cretins aint even got the nouce, to see that attitudes like that harden the public view even more. "Arrogant Cretins":rolleyes:

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Do they know right from wrong? How can they govern us without that basic requirement?

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NO but they do govern us. its only wrong spug when its you or i fiddling.:mad:

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Agreed and they come down on you like a ruddy battleship.

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And now the Archbishop Of Canterbury is asking that we stop humiliating these MP's. Tis a bloody joke, keep naming and shaming them:mad:

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well he would, no beggar checks his expenses i'll wager.:rolleyes:

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Where the hell is Robin Hood when the poor need help. :(

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I've yet to see one MP genuinely acknowledge what they've done. Responses range from the "I've done nothing wrong, I've stuck to the rules" defence to the "I can understand that people are angry with system" line (yes, they are but they're also angry with cheating, freeloading, troughing politicians).

Occasionally, reality breaks through - Margaret Beckett, a drab little incompetent who has been notable only for her mediocrity in the succession of government posts she's held was loftily explaining to the audience on "Question Time" the trials and tribulations of running a grace-and-favour home. The look of startled surprise on her face, as the audience turned on her, as one, was a picture - the game's up, we aren't going to be patronised anymore!

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It's true. Her face was a picture.

http://www.tonguechic.com/assets/000..._teeth_std.jpg

That Blair babe was probably so shocked at the reaction, that she didn't eat her oats that night.

:D

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And what percentage of the population are these thieving slags?... makes me wonder why we blame most of our ills on immigrants

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The things is that whilst all this is going on, all 650 MPs are being tarred with the same brush, there ARE MPs who have no questions to answer on expenses, but this continual drip drip drip affect, is doing nobody any good, save the circulation numbers of the Daily Telegraph

Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
 

A case of a few bad apples causing the throwing out of the good ones in the box as well even though there is nothing wrong with them. The drip feeding of the allegations feeds this yearning we have for a good scandel and helps boost the outrage of the public. They are playing on the fact that we will always jump on a bandwagon before we know the whole story. Its like we enjoy the mass hysteria it creates and we thrive on it. My own MP hasnt missed this bashing and from what i have read, his statements about it etc he is far from clean. He furnished homes up here claiming it was for in London. We have developed a culture of pure greed, the need to have everything for nothing along with a sod the rest attitude. Someday historians will look back and consider how the hell it happened under the noses of all.

One downside to all this is that if they force MP's from their seats with this backlash we will end up with a lot of very inexperienced MP's and very few seasoned ones. If this happens who will take the blame MP's or the media or will it be both them and the public at large.

Re: £10,000 offered to leak MPs expenses
 

Think you've hit the nail on the head Spugs, especially the last paragraph