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So are cannibals.
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In the press today - Mandelslime claimed expenses for attending Bildeburg
..since we paid for it at least we ought to know what was said there, shouldn't we? chance would be a fine thing:rolleyes: |
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And here's another way that the greedy, grabbing sods are dipping their snouts in the trough...
MPs ignore public anger and give themselves £9,000 expenses deal by stealth - Telegraph |
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Did anybody really expect things to change? Their sheer arrogance is amazing!!!!
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The mind really does boggle:(
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It just gets better and better, the MP's who are standing down at the election because of the expenses scandal have now decided to award themselves £65,000. Is there no end to their audacity?
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I'm still hoping, probably in vain, that the MPs who claimed for mortgages they didn't have, because they'd already ended, will be prosecuted for fraud. You can bet your bottom expenses receipt that if it was a woman, who'd claimed housing benefit as a single person, whilst shacked up with her fella, her feet wouldn't touch the floor until she was in the court dock. |
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They've also awarded themselves this, since the expenses scandal.
MPs ignore public anger and give themselves £9,000 expenses deal by stealth - Telegraph A clean sweep, and transparency? Yeah right. |
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Fraud is a crime, and should be prosecuted, no matter who you are. Even if you are the one who makes the laws. |
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When corruption is so deeply entrenched it is the beginning of the end for democracy.
There is nobody left worth voting for. :( |
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BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Duncan sorry for MP pay 'whinge'
Shadow Commons leader Alan Duncan has apologised "unreservedly" after he was secretly filmed complaining about MPs' pay and expenses. The Tory MP was heard to say MPs were being treated badly after the expenses scandal and "have to live on rations". Mr Duncan said the remarks, made to film maker Heydon Prowse of Don't Panic magazine, were meant as a joke. Why say the comments in the first place? |
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Tory Alan Duncan defends joke about killing Miss America contestant - Telegraph Killing those that don't share the same views, hilarious. |
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Still, he has made me laugh.
Only weeks after his smarmy dismissal of the expenses scandal on Have I Got News, he did some pretty funny retrospective grovelling. YouTube - Alan Duncan MP - Embarrassing U-Turn on MP's expenses |
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Alan Duncan is definitely funny, just not in a good way.
'The following year, the MP published a book, Saturn's Children, in which he called for the decriminalisation of all drugs, the scrapping of the welfare state' MPs’ expenses: Alan Duncan, from millionaire oil trader to constant gardener - Telegraph |
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'Duncan, like Francis Maude and Michael Gove, enjoys immunity because he is an inmate of Cameron’s gang hut. In contrast, Sir Peter Viggers, of duck-house fame, found that his feet did not touch the ground on the way out of public life in the wake of the MPs’ expenses scandal. But Duncan is a Cameroon, an icon of “modernisation”, much hyped by the more absurd Tory bloggers.'
Alan Duncan is taking up space that might more profitably be occupied by a vacuum - Telegraph Blogs That's an outrage! If I was andrewb I'd sue the Daily Telegraph. |
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This is the same Tory M.P who voted against the minimum wage! |
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Lose the expenses to gain something far more important - respect | Mail Online 'The Conservative MP for Ribble Valley claimed a total of £6,268 since June 8, including three £1,200 payments for mortgage interest as well as £108-a-month council tax bills and £60-a-month electricity bills.' 'He also claimed back £808.44 for an O2 mobile bill, £85 for the Ribchester Parish Magazine and £600 for service which helps MPs manage constituents' cases.' MP claims thousands on expenses - Lancashire Evening Post Mr Evans probably lost his receipt for straws, or he'd have probably have claimed for those as well.:rolleyes: |
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Hypocrisy I think is what they call it. |
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He, like so many others of them, has abused the system. A system the politicans created for themselves, and then fought doggedly for that expenses system to remain secret from the general public. |
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Well, has someboby once famously said "they would wouldn't they". |
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If he's struggling to make ends meet on £60,000.+ per year, plus expenses, perhaps he should sod off back to South Wales, and see if he can find more rewarding work in the valleys. Pity all the mines are closed. Looking so long in the face, as he does, he could have worked as a pit pony. |
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The man who filmed the latest interview is the same man who recently attacked Duncan's garden, digging a pound sign into his lawn. Perhaps it's a similar Tory-Lite idea as 'hug a hoodie'. If you're the victim of vandalism by a political activist, afterwards invite them to the House of Commons for a glass of Pimms, and then let them publicly shaft you for a second time. |
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maybe it would be better if we use terms like Amigo/Amiga , or Mon Ami since 'north americanisms' are frowned upon ;) ;) :D |
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the latest one ....
BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Senior Tory wants MP pay doubled Get rid of expenses .. and double their pay ... |
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'In his evidence to the standards committee, he said the current MP's salary was "so low in absolute and relative terms" that members of the professional and business classes would be deterred from entering Parliament.'
BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Senior Tory wants MP pay doubled Good. The calibre of 'professional' politicians the current salary has attracted thus far, has been pretty dire. The ones I've met have been no smarter than the average teacher, who survive on condiderably less. From some of the pitiful excuses we've had to endure recently, forgetting mortgages had ended, get all those confusing numbers mixed up on their expenses claim forms, they should probably be receiving a salary equal to that of a circus peformer...one with big shoes, a white face, and a red nose. |
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Hell, a doubling of their salary is nearly up there with the massive percentage rise some of our local councillors decided to vote for, regarding their expenses increase, and award themselves.
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It'll be very interesting to see the standard of candidate, with the current salary and associated benefits such as a very generous pension etc, that are fielded in Hyndburn at the next General Election.
They are going to have to be pretty special, with the relevant 'special needs' that Hyndburn has to contend with. :rolleyes: |
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BBC NEWS | VOTE 2001 | CANDIDATES ;) |
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I hear that many labour MPs are not standing for re-election next time, and many tory MPs may well choose not to if they have to give up their other jobs.
What could happen if many seats cannot field either a tory or labour candidate? |
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I think it will be a fairly interesting election though, as a lot of 'sitting' MPs are standing down. So in many areas it will be new candidates for both party regardless of which party currently has the seat.
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I don't think they will Eric. I think a new person, from either party, would stand a good chance. For example, this area is mostly a Labour voting area. Greg has held his seat for 19 years. People may be a bit dissolusioned with the the Labour party and even with Greg so might not have voted for him if he'd have stood BUT a new Labour candidate can wipe the slate clean to some degree.
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New Labour went when Tony Blair went off the scene, the dregs that are left in charge have some grovelling to do before the electorate are convinced that they will tell the truth in the future. How the hell can you wipe the slate clean when our lads are dying in Afghanistan:confused: How the hell can you wipe the slate clean when pensioners have lost thousands of pounds on private pensions:confused: How the hell do you explain to people who have lost thousands with the Bank collapse through mismanagement:confused: How the hell do you explain why so many people have lost their jobs because THE ECONOMYS ON ITS ARSE:confused: You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not people all of the time. |
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Unemployment is the biggest concern, recent figures are bad and I would always blame the Government for mass unemployment. |
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...and here's another politician talking about all the "sacrifices" that our poor, put-upon MPs have to make.
BBC NEWS | UK | MPs face 'extra costs' - Beckett However, this time it's a Labour one, so a lot of the politicos on this forum will go very quiet about it. |
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Amazed no one has meantioned the headline story in the Observer yet ... :rolleyes:
Grand gesture by 'value for money' councillor - News - Accrington Observer You can expect maybe a couple to be missed due to unavoidable other commitments, but holidays ... no excuse ... at this rate of pay you work your holidays around them ! |
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Beckett, Baroness Uddin, Lord Taylor et al, and that devious littlle Squirrel it away Blears, should all be fired. (Please note, all those mentioned are Labour politicans, the next time I'm accused of political bias.);) |
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Are people who have money not worth the same rate of pay as those who have less money? |
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I think that a test before election should include motive. as well as means test. Do you really believe that the many MP's who are in parliament are there on merit or are there for self gain, on top of the money they already have to enhance thier career prospects at the taxpayers expence? |
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It takes five years to find out if an MP is up to the job. If I was in a job and didnt do the business for my boss, I would be out on my ear within a week. A five year contract for posing at £63,000 a year is very nice thank you. |
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think one criteria of judging a local MP is to see how much money/jobs he/she has been able to bring into his area . Seems Blackburn is allways a the front of the queue when Govt. money is being passed out , wether this is because the local MP Jack Straw has more political clout than a regular back bencher is anyones guess , but its a sure vote getter
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I do think there is something wrong with the country when the people who are charged with looking after our welfare and running the country are paid £63k, but the man who runs Tesco gets £1.5m plus £4m bonus.
I'm sure Sir Terry works very hard and I'm sure he'll justify his salary but let's face it, the person who decides whether he presses the little red button has a bit more responsibility when it all boils down to it. I suppose the difference, and the argument, is that our MPs are paid out of the public purse, i.e. our hard earned money. But, if I'm honest, I'd prefer to have Sir Terry running the country than the current administration and if he was worth £1.5m then I'd be prepared to pay it. It's the old adage, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Whilst I realise that £63k is not peanuts to the majority of us, we have to pay people what they're worth in the long run. |
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Let's face it, we all knew they wouldn't be able to take their snouts out of the trough.
The TaxPayers' Alliance - Media Coverage: Daily Express: MPS CAN CARRY ON FIDDLING EXPENSES No wonder politicians of all stripes are regarded with so much contempt these days. :mad: |
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'For 13 years all five ministers at the Department of Health were given £8 of fruit a day.'
'They filled up their office fruit bowls at a cost to the taxpayer of more than £100,000.' Labour’s fruit freebies cost taxpayer £100,000 - Times Online No wonder they regularly produced so much....:pain30: |
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Prove me wrong, Cameron, please please prove me wrong. |
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As your chum, Peter Britcliffe pointed out, when he said that he couldn't eat in London for a tenner, and used that as an excuse to ignore the recommendations of an independent panel, and the Conservatives voted to increase subsistance expenses by a massive percentage increase. Just as I helpfully gave Cllr. Britcliffe directions to the Stockpot restaurants in London, perhaps I should have wrote to the various Health Ministers, with directions to Berwick Street market, just a short walk from Whitehall, were they could have bought their five a day for about a quid. Council makes a meal of rises - Accrington Observer http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...and-45105.html 'Labour Councillors Bernard Dawson, Clare Pritchard, Malcolm Pritchard, Munsif Dad, and Colette McCormack, were so incensed by the decision to vote through the allowances they asked for their no vote to be recorded.' Expenses rise sparks fury in council chamber - Accrington Observer My, how things change, in just a few short years. :rolleyes: |
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