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turkishdelight 15-05-2009 16:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 714082)
This may be the case, but what I was saying was...you can't vote for the BNP if they don't put up a candidate....and there is no candidate for the BNP in our locality.

I think that most right thinking folk know that the BNP are not an option...not even as a protest vote.......but I think that politics has become tainted by the current expenses situation.
I don't know how I will vote in the forthcoming elections....there is a labour candidate and a conservative one.......I have time to think about it.

Dont be fooled. The BNP are on the cusp of winning seats they have invested huge amounts of time and money in their election campaign and have tried to hide their extreme ideology we have to act up and down the country to make sure they dont win.

accyman 15-05-2009 16:23

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if they get in then it means they were voted for by enough people to elect them , they probably wont get elected and wont get my vote but if people vote them in then so be it

turkishdelight 15-05-2009 16:42

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North West main battle-ground in the fight against BNP Nick Griffin is their main candidate and because of the proportional representation under which elections are contested he needs as little as 8 percent vote to get one of the eight places in the European elections.An MEP would give the BNP 250000 a year for five years in wages and support.

lancsdave 15-05-2009 16:44

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 714118)
An MEP would give the BNP 250000 a year for five years in wages and support.


Would he fiddle the expenses like the mainstream parties do ?

katex 15-05-2009 17:22

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You just joined Unison TD ? ... :);)

flashy 15-05-2009 17:31

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well this thread definately wont stop me voting for who i think is the best candidate....I'LL VOTE FOR WHO I WANT thankyou

derekgas 15-05-2009 17:38

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The BNP are far too extreme in many of thier policies, unfortunately, the main parties are far too lax where it matters, if the bnp are gaining votes, that is testimony to how disappointed folk are in the main parties, NOT that they want the bnp to win any seats. I said in another thread, the bnp is looking a better option all the time to some, if they are gaining votes, then that is exactly what I expected from the many voters who dont actually consider WHY they are voting and for WHAT, except in rebellion against the present government.

Less 15-05-2009 17:47

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Excuse Me? The BNP are a legitimate party, I hope they remain a legitimate party, they offer nothing I want, but, if there are people out there wishing to vote for such extremes they should be given the chance.

If, as is likely they get nowhere then we all have, from any other party won, if however as some seem to think, they are a threat, it is only because the free thinking people of this country have been panicked into silence.

Royboy39 15-05-2009 17:50

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 714139)
The BNP are far too extreme in many of thier policies, unfortunately, the main parties are far too lax where it matters, if the bnp are gaining votes, that is testimony to how disappointed folk are in the main parties, NOT that they want the bnp to win any seats. I said in another thread, the bnp is looking a better option all the time to some, if they are gaining votes, then that is exactly what I expected from the many voters who dont actually consider WHY they are voting and for WHAT, except in rebellion against the present government.

think i'ts a frustration vote against Mainstream because for many years the Mainstream have not listened, they have dictated, hopefully now there will be a change in attitude.
I think the change should begin with the abolition of local Cabinets and let all councillors have their say in what goes on, not just the ruling party?

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2009 17:50

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 714106)
Dont be fooled. The BNP are on the cusp of winning seats they have invested huge amounts of time and money in their election campaign and have tried to hide their extreme ideology we have to act up and down the country to make sure they dont win.


I am not fooled at all......I am quite capable of looking at situations and coming to my own conclusions.
Having lived on this earth for a long time, I have accrued a modicum of common sense(although I prefer to call it application of knowledge)...and I don't believe everything that is fed to me by the media, spin doctors or politicians.
This is especially true in the current climate.

MargaretR 15-05-2009 17:58

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There is a lot to be gained by switching off and unplugging your TV.
I did just that a week ago.
When I decided that all that was transmitted was lies, it became more like sick comedy tv every day.


PS I still watch NCIS on my PC - mind purification takes time too :D

turkishdelight 15-05-2009 18:02

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 714121)
Would he fiddle the expenses like the mainstream parties do ?

Voters are outraged by the expenses arrangement that allowed some MPs to exploit countless loopholes and profit from the tax payers money however the BNP would be far worse as shown by the partys long history of financial irregularities outlined in a search light report presented to the house of commons in December 2008.

Less 15-05-2009 18:12

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 714150)
Voters are outraged by the expenses arrangement that allowed some MPs to exploit countless loopholes and profit from the tax payers money however the BNP would be far worse as shown by the partys long history of financial irregularities outlined in a search light report presented to the house of commons in December 2008.

Sorry, but you are just as bad, they spread smear and propaganda, how are you any better?

Pick the bad of each party and we have nothing but bad, why not look at the good proposed by most parties and combine?

O.K. before someone tells me, I'll go back to my fantasy world, at least it's better than this one!

shillelagh 15-05-2009 18:15

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BBC NEWS | In Depth | Vote 2004 | North West European Election Result

5 years ago the bnp came 5th in the polls with near enough 135,000 votes. As its proportional representation .. if traditional labour and conservative voters dont go out and vote ... in a rebellion against the mps expenses etc .. then what would happen ... they could get in ... and would you like a bnp euro mp?

cashman 15-05-2009 18:19

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 714152)
BBC NEWS | In Depth | Vote 2004 | North West European Election Result

5 years ago the bnp came 5th in the polls with near enough 135,000 votes. As its proportional representation .. if traditional labour and conservative voters dont go out and vote ... in a rebellion against the mps expenses etc .. then what would happen ... they could get in ... and would you like a bnp euro mp?

gotta say jen, whilst i despise the B.N.P. that might just be the wake up call the main ******* need if it happened.


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