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lindsay ormerod 16-05-2009 22:07

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I got three leaflets thru the door this morning about the Euro Election, LibDem, Green and an alarming blunt BNP one, they all went straight in the recycling sack, though in the interests of fairness only after I had finished laughing at them.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 17-05-2009 09:21

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Incidentally, if anyone's thinking of voting for the BNP because of their Euroscepticism, it's worth noting that there are non-racist alternatives on both sides of the political spectrum - UKIP for right-wingers (in the Tory sense) and NO2EU for left-wingers.

Of course, if you're quite happy to have billions upon billions of our taxes squandered on an intrinsically undemocratic, hugely corrupt (and their corruption makes our Parliament's look like peanuts), criminally wasteful, remote institution in Brussels which is now intruding into more and more areas of our life, you'll carry on voting Lab/Tory/Lib-Dem...:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 17-05-2009 14:13

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 714569)
Of course, if you're quite happy to have billions upon billions of our taxes squandered on an intrinsically undemocratic, hugely corrupt (and their corruption makes our Parliament's look like peanuts), criminally wasteful, remote institution in Brussels which is now intruding into more and more areas of our life, you'll carry on voting Lab/Tory/Lib-Dem...:rolleyes:

Surely you mean carry on voting criminals?

andrewb 17-05-2009 15:00

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 714640)
Surely you mean carry on voting criminals?

UKIP's record on expenses and fraud are hardly something to gloat about. ;)

flashy 17-05-2009 15:18

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whatever happened to the monster raving looney party? i'd vote for those

cashman 17-05-2009 15:18

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 714655)
UKIP's record on expenses and fraud are hardly something to gloat about. ;)

Did Tealeaf mention UKIP?:confused:

Wynonie Harris 17-05-2009 15:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 714666)
Did Tealeaf mention UKIP?:confused:

It's in his signature. I thought that the two guilty UKIP MEPs had been chucked out of the party?

Mancie 17-05-2009 15:33

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 714665)
whatever happened to the monster raving looney party? i'd vote for those

yeah...I reckon you'd fit in quite well with them.;):D

flashy 17-05-2009 15:34

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 714670)
yeah...I reckon you'd fit in quite well with them.;):D


you and me both love ;) lol

cashman 17-05-2009 15:38

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theres a member of it posting on here flashy.;)

flashy 17-05-2009 15:43

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lol

Wynonie Harris 17-05-2009 15:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 714672)
theres a member of it posting on here flashy.;)

Guilty as charged! :D

mattylad 17-05-2009 23:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 714665)
whatever happened to the monster raving looney party? i'd vote for those

Lord Such died & I think the party died with him.

Tealeaf 18-05-2009 07:03

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 714655)
UKIP's record on expenses and fraud are hardly something to gloat about. ;)

They were guilty as charged. They admitted it and they were then booted straight out. Unlike that sorry bunch of Tory miscreants, there was no pathetic excuse of "..acting in good faith and within the rules".

Wynonie Harris 18-05-2009 07:32

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 714815)
They were guilty as charged. They admitted it and they were then booted straight out. Unlike that sorry bunch of Tory miscreants, there was no pathetic excuse of "..acting in good faith and within the rules".

Quite right, even Mad Gord has had to suspend the worst offenders from the Parliamentary Labour Party. Strange then, that the boy David, who reckons he's so hot on clamping down on abuses, has not had the guts to suspend that greedy husband-and-wife team, Mackay and Kilbride from his party.

Inicidentally, one of the UKIP MEPs was found guilty of benefits fraud and was jailed for nine months. Although, he was booted out of UKIP, he kept his job as an MEP with its fat salary and tens of thousands of pounds worth of expenses (which far outweigh anything that our Parliament offers), because, unbelievably, if an MEP is sent down for less than a year, he keeps his job and all attendant benefits. Just one more fact about the EU that our politicians don't want you to know.

Tealeaf 18-05-2009 07:41

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The 'EU' has not had it's accounts passed by it's own Court of Auditors for the last dozen years. Every institution within it is a festering bag of corruption, which fits in perfectly well with Labour,the Tories and those pathetic little worms, the Lib-Dems.

By the way, don't label UKIP as some sort of watered down version of the BNP. There are eight Black/Asian candidates standing in June's Euro elections.

andrewb 18-05-2009 07:41

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 714815)
They were guilty as charged. They admitted it and they were then booted straight out. Unlike that sorry bunch of Tory miscreants, there was no pathetic excuse of "..acting in good faith and within the rules".

I'm going to in no way defend the Conservatives that have abused the system, whether they were in the rules or not. What you say though is not strictly true. UKIP investigated and did not kick the member out despite him embezzling thousands of pounds. He wasn't expelled from UKIP until it broke publicly and he was charged for his crimes. There is of course more but that isn't the point.

I would hope that MP's will follow suit in due course if they're guilty of fraud, which it seems clear some are! The political parties should have nothing to do with them. It would be wrong to try and suggest a particular party is behind it, it's the individual MP's themselves that have been milking the system, and will I hope be dealt with in the same way UKIP eventually dealt with their members.

Wynonie Harris 18-05-2009 08:12

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 714824)
UKIP investigated and did not kick the member out despite him embezzling thousands of pounds. He wasn't expelled from UKIP until it broke publicly and he was charged for his crimes.

As you seriously suggesting that Cameron would have taken action against his motley crew of miscreants, if the present scandal hadn't "broke publicly" in the Telegraph?

andrewb 18-05-2009 08:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 714826)
As you seriously suggesting that Cameron would have taken action against his motley crew of miscreants, if the present scandal hadn't "broke publicly" in the Telegraph?

As I said, I was not for a second defending the Conservatives. Cameron has placed his former aide into an investigation despite him not being in the papers however. What I was trying to say is UKIP did not immediately remove their MEP's who were embezzling money. I am saying it's not a partisan issue, it's certain people not treating parliament and their position how it should be treated.

shakermaker 18-05-2009 16:26

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Back on topic

Got a BNP leaflet through the door today. Before I burn this hateful garbage, I'll share a quote with you from the leaflet that just amplifies the stupidity of this party and the people who support it.

"We're fed up with being sent ill-equipped into foreign wars. The BNP will bring our troops home and ensure that British soldiers are not abused on the streets of our cities by Muslims".

Sorry, what!?! By Muslims? The rest of the quote was all fair enough, if simplistic and misguided, but ...by Muslims?!

While I was writing for the Telegraph we learned of a story where a troop returned to England to be greeted with a boot to the head from a white, English, Christian male. Should I run an advertising campaign claiming that only white, English, Christian males are out to attack our troops?

I don't see how anyone with anything about them could affiliate themselves with this party, let alone vote for them.

Bagpuss 18-05-2009 18:03

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We all watched the news and saw the story mentioned in the leaflet. British troops where abused by muslins, fact. I don't know the full facts of your story it could have been something totally different from the muslim incident. Are you saying muslims did not abuse British troops on British soil?

shakermaker 18-05-2009 19:34

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Err, no. I thought the point was clear: People of many creeds & colours have acted disgustingly by abusing our returning troops, but this idiot-fuelled propaganda dropped through our doors only refers to one event; the protest including people of Islam, hereby implying that all people of Islam are out to attack British troops exclusively.

SPUGGIE J 18-05-2009 19:39

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All this is gettin out of hand now.

shakermaker 18-05-2009 19:41

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Isn't there a thread for the MP expenses debacle?

:)

Bagpuss 18-05-2009 19:42

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 714939)
hereby implying that all people of Islam are out to attack British troops exclusively.

Nope, I've re-read your comment and it does not imply all people of islam are out to attack British troops, that's just how you interpreted the leaflet.

shakermaker 18-05-2009 19:44

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'by Muslims'.

Yes it does.

Why didn't it say 'anyone' abusing our troops?

shakermaker 18-05-2009 20:08

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No, you're right, it doesn't imply that all people of Islam are out to attack British troops. I was wrong. The leaflet angered me, as all of their hate-inciting propaganda does, and I vented with an over zealous post.

The quote still typifies the anti-Islam attitude of the BNP however, and if they really cared about the attacks on troops, it would have condemned anyone who attacks a British soldier.

jaysay 19-05-2009 10:39

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Just got the BNP leaflet through the door, as you open it up to full A4 size, right at the top of the page is a photo of three workmen, with the slogan over the top saying "British Jobs for British Workers" oh dear, oh deary me, seems that those three workmen were hired from an American agency, speaks volumes of the BNP:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

Bagpuss 19-05-2009 12:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 715015)
seems that those three workmen were hired from an American agency

Is that your opinion or are you dealing with facts?

shillelagh 19-05-2009 12:12

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Just got the BNP leaflet ... reading it ... it says Campaign to get Britain out of the EU and use the £60b a year we'd save to restore the nhs and invest in british jobs ... one thing ... the only way we could come out of the EU is thro Parliament .. not the EU .. and the bnp are fielding the candidates in the EU elections .....also says No to the Euro .. we already have .. we still have £'s shillings and pence dont we ... or is that a defunct currency that i have in my purse?

Bagpuss 19-05-2009 12:56

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 714952)
The quote still typifies the anti-Islam attitude of the BNP however, and if they really cared about the attacks on troops, it would have condemned anyone who attacks a British soldier.

You don't have to support the BNP to be anti-islam.

I still don't know the facts of the attack on the soldier, have you got a link? It could have been nothing to do with him being a soldier, maybe just some drunks or a fight over a girl?

shakermaker 19-05-2009 13:07

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715050)
You don't have to support the BNP to be anti-islam.

I never said otherwise. I said the BNP is anti-Islam.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715050)
I still don't know the facts of the attack on the soldier, have you got a link? It could have been nothing to do with him being a soldier, maybe just some drunks or a fight over a girl?

The issue is that not only people of Islam abuse/attack soldiers, which the BNP quote implied, and that you seem to be avoiding. Is it impossible for you to comprehend that someone other than a practising Muslim would attack a soldier?

I'm still looking for the article I first mentioned. To keep you going, here's a couple of others:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...oldier_attack/

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...Oswaldtwistle/

BERNADETTE 19-05-2009 13:12

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715050)
You don't have to support the BNP to be anti-islam.

I still don't know the facts of the attack on the soldier, have you got a link? It could have been nothing to do with him being a soldier, maybe just some drunks or a fight over a girl?

Was there not a report of a soldier being attacked by some drunks in Oswaldtwisle a few weeks back? I seem to recall reading about it.

As for the Muslims we all saw them on the News staging their protests at the Homecoming parade in Luton. Nobody should be allowed to vent their hatred in such a public way.

flashy 19-05-2009 13:28

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exactly Bernie, if white people did that we would be inside for racism

and by saying 'white' people, i am of course referring to several different nationalities

jaysay 19-05-2009 16:01

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715039)
Is that your opinion or are you dealing with facts?

Fact Bagpuss, was on the Telly and in the press yesterday

yerself 19-05-2009 16:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay
Fact Bagpuss, was on the Telly and in the press yesterday

Must be fact if it's been in the press.:D:D

jaysay 19-05-2009 16:41

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 715094)
Must be fact if it's been in the press.:D:D

TV is pretty reliable yourself, the Beeb I mean

Bagpuss 19-05-2009 17:43

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 715105)
TV is pretty reliable yourself, the Beeb I mean

Propaganda machine out to discredit the BNP;)

Mancie 19-05-2009 17:48

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 715054)
Was there not a report of a soldier being attacked by some drunks in Oswaldtwisle a few weeks back? I seem to recall reading about it.

As for the Muslims we all saw them on the News staging their protests at the Homecoming parade in Luton. Nobody should be allowed to vent their hatred in such a public way.

Irish catholics got away with much worse for years! :rolleyes:

Bagpuss 19-05-2009 19:20

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715121)
Irish catholics got away with much worse for years! :rolleyes:

So that make everything ok does it?
Call yourself English it's people like you that have got us in the state we are now, too soft, but if it had been Conservatives that abused a Labour march you would have been up in arms.:)

BERNADETTE 19-05-2009 20:05

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715121)
Irish catholics got away with much worse for years! :rolleyes:

Maybe so, so does that make it right that another group are doing it now? Not to my mind it doesn't but hey ho voice an opinion about the behaviour of Muslim fanatics and somebody will harp back to fanatics of other denominations. Fact it is very wrong and IMO no excuses can be made for it!!!!

Mancie 19-05-2009 20:08

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715147)
So that make everything ok does it?
Call yourself English it's people like you that have got us in the state we are now, too soft, but if it had been Conservatives that abused a Labour march you would have been up in arms.:)

well you just let the cat out the bag (;))..if there's one thing that has always wound up BNP supporters ..it's the fact that if you are English and don't support thier twisted crap then you are labled a traitor...you got the gall to question my alleigence to England?... you and the likes are the ones that dishonour this nation!

Mancie 19-05-2009 20:14

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 715161)
Maybe so, so does that make it right that another group are doing it now? Not to my mind it doesn't but hey ho voice an opinion about the behaviour of Muslim fanatics and somebody will harp back to fanatics of other denominations. Fact it is very wrong and IMO no excuses can be made for it!!!!

Did I say it made things right?..I'm stating a fact..and I don't remember the BNP kicking up much fuss when British troops were shot dead in Ulster a few weeks back!... the BNP have tried very hard over the past few years to shift the blame of all the ill's this county suffers ...it was black people in the past.. now it's muslims.

BERNADETTE 19-05-2009 20:23

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715163)
Did I say it made things right?..I'm stating a fact..and I don't remember the BNP kicking up much fuss when British troops were shot dead in Ulster a few weeks back!... the BNP have tried very hard over the past few years to shift the blame of all the ill's this county suffers ...it was black people in the past.. now it's muslims.

Well I won't be taking any notice of what the BNP say, in fact it is very hard to take any of them seriously. By the way I come from an Irish catholic background and my feelings towards the IRA are the same as the ones I harbour for fanatical Muslims.

Mancie 19-05-2009 20:38

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 715168)
Well I won't be taking any notice of what the BNP say, in fact it is very hard to take any of them seriously. By the way I come from an Irish catholic background and my feelings towards the IRA are the same as the ones I harbour for fanatical Muslims.

When I posted about Irish Catholics abusing British troops it was to get a reaction .... go back to the 70's and the then National Front (now the BNP) were totally racist towards the Irish and blacks..this got them nowhere and so they moved to the more fashionable trend of blaming the Polish and Muslims for anything wrong in our economy or social affairs...they will pick and chosse when they see a new target.

Bagpuss 19-05-2009 20:50

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715162)
well you just let the cat out the bag (;))..if there's one thing that has always wound up BNP supporters ..it's the fact that if you are English and don't support thier twisted crap then you are labled a traitor...you got the gall to question my alleigence to England?... you and the likes are the ones that dishonour this nation!

What cat? it's no secret that I do not like muslims or poles in fact any forgeigners that come here and bleed our country dry whether legally or not. I have never been a member of the BNP but I have voted for them.
I look at it this way if English people had tried to do in a muslim country what the muslims did in Luton they would be beaten or killed. So what do the damby pamby English do on accyweb? instead of condeming them as scum they whitter on about drunks fighting soldiers and the IRA, like I said mancie you and shakermaker just don't get it, too bloody soft.:(

BERNADETTE 19-05-2009 21:04

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715173)
When I posted about Irish Catholics abusing British troops it was to get a reaction .... go back to the 70's and the then National Front (now the BNP) were totally racist towards the Irish and blacks..this got them nowhere and so they moved to the more fashionable trend of blaming the Polish and Muslims for anything wrong in our economy or social affairs...they will pick and chosse when they see a new target.

I remember the seventies very well as extremely worrying times for my parents as my bro was serving in Northern Ireland. As for the BNP being racist to the Irish and Blacks I'm sure they were well able to cope, it was not many years before when notces on boarding houses put them lower down than animals. I have heard the tales of the signs in windows stating that there were vacancies but "No animals, Irish or Blacks allowed".

Mancie 19-05-2009 21:07

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715179)
What cat? it's no secret that I do not like muslims or poles in fact any forgeigners that come here and bleed our country dry whether legally or not. I have never been a member of the BNP but I have voted for them.
I look at it this way if English people had tried to do in a muslim country what the muslims did in Luton they would be beaten or killed. So what do the damby pamby English do on accyweb? instead of condeming them as scum they whitter on about drunks fighting soldiers and the IRA, like I said mancie you and shakermaker just don't get it, too bloody soft.:(

Can't speak for anyone else but I don't namby pamby...the IRA in the past have killed more Brits than any Muslims...and I hate there guts the same as Muslim killers... but I reckon the BNP are more concerned with the colour of people rather than any threat.

Mancie 19-05-2009 21:40

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I've got to add that I do have a problem with anyone who basis thier opinions on the colour of a anyones skin!

shakermaker 19-05-2009 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715179)
What cat? it's no secret that I do not like muslims or poles in fact any forgeigners that come here and bleed our country dry whether legally or not. I have never been a member of the BNP but I have voted for them.
I look at it this way if English people had tried to do in a muslim country what the muslims did in Luton they would be beaten or killed. So what do the damby pamby English do on accyweb? instead of condeming them as scum they whitter on about drunks fighting soldiers and the IRA, like I said mancie you and shakermaker just don't get it, too bloody soft.:(

Unusually subtle for you, that. You practically hid the little dig away. Don't go soft on us ;)

Let's not get silly with 'keyboard wargames'. I know for a fact that we agree on many principles. We don't want illegal immigrants to enter the country, we don't want migrants to be preferred to British workers for jobs in the UK, we don't want British soldiers to be abused. That's just some.

The difference in views on the latter issue seems to be that I see all people who abuse soldiers as the same breed. I don't care if they practice Islam or wear nipple tassles on Thursday nights. They're all idiots and their actions are disgusting. They should all be brought to justice. Your view, and that of the British Nazi Party, is that only immigrants and Muslims attack soldiers. Any attacks by British people on British soldiers must be drunken scuffles and therefore not comparitive to the attacks by Muslims.

The BNP breed ignorance and hate. The cornerstones of the party are angry quotes from angry people dressing up racism as patriotism, taken in by people who really should know better.

Mancie 20-05-2009 00:48

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Nick Griffin defending his high rankin BNP officers...
YouTube - British Nationalist Party (BNP) Exposed

Mancie 20-05-2009 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715179)
What cat? it's no secret that I do not like muslims or poles in fact any forgeigners that come here and bleed our country dry whether legally or not. I have never been a member of the BNP but I have voted for them.
I look at it this way if English people had tried to do in a muslim country what the muslims did in Luton they would be beaten or killed. So what do the damby pamby English do on accyweb? instead of condeming them as scum they whitter on about drunks fighting soldiers and the IRA, like I said mancie you and shakermaker just don't get it, too bloody soft.:(

if these are your sort of mates bagpuss then 88you.. most peolple can do without you scumbags!

accyman 20-05-2009 02:06

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lol at teh youtube video

mind you at least theres a party with convictions , they may be criminal convictions but at least they got some sort of convictions :)

note to self

if ever arrested for possesion of a bomb claim its an over grown firework :D

nuclear bombs arnt dangerous there just very large bangers lol

Mancie 20-05-2009 02:33

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these thugs are top rank BNP .. !

Mancie 20-05-2009 02:41

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 715216)
lol at teh youtube video

mind you at least theres a party with convictions , they may be criminal convictions but at least they got some sort of convictions :)

note to self

if ever arrested for possesion of a bomb claim its an over grown firework :D

nuclear bombs arnt dangerous there just very large bangers lol

Bagpuss takes em up the ass..he wouldn't even notice!:D

churchman phil 20-05-2009 08:40

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So if anybody doesn't have the same point of view as you mancie they're in the wrong??
The film you showed above is eight years old and totally out of date.

jaysay 20-05-2009 09:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 715168)
Well I won't be taking any notice of what the BNP say, in fact it is very hard to take any of them seriously. By the way I come from an Irish catholic background and my feelings towards the IRA are the same as the ones I harbour for fanatical Muslims.

Same here Bernie, but what galls me these days is we have a bunch of Muslim fanatics who are prepared to kill in cold blood only to make a statement that their God is better than ours, if there is a god I'm sure he would damn them to hell and all those who use his name to justify mass killing. We often here the same,e old trip along the lines Britain and America killing our Muslim brothers and Sisters, here are more Muslims are killed by Muslims than ever the west have done, aka Saddam Hussain

jaysay 20-05-2009 09:55

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Originally Posted by churchman phil (Post 715245)
So if anybody doesn't have the same point of view as you mancie they're in the wrong??
The film you showed above is eight years old and totally out of date.

Your learning Phil, don't matter if its politics or football our Mancie's always right, not:rolleyes:

andrewb 20-05-2009 09:58

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It's not 'foreigners' that bleed the country dry. There are many hard working individuals from home and abroad that contribute to this country. Likewise there are also those from home and abroad that don't. The only people who make this country worse are those that breed hatred. The BNP, whether they have appealing policies on the crime in your local neighbourhood, or healthcare, are still a party of hatred. They strip out everything great about our nation. Nick Griffin their leader is a Holocaust denier, he claims it was a 'hoax'. Need I say more about the hatred and nastyness that this party represents.
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Mancie 20-05-2009 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by churchman phil (Post 715245)
So if anybody doesn't have the same point of view as you mancie they're in the wrong??
The film you showed above is eight years old and totally out of date.

If you think I'm wrong then prove it!...the clip is old but Nick Griffin is still the leader of the BNP and it is him defending party officials who are convicted violent thugs!

MargaretR 20-05-2009 15:20

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I think Mancie's attitude to the human race is admirable.
Race hatred is being deliberately engineered to justify and provoke 'big buck' wars

Less 20-05-2009 15:49

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715331)
I think Mancie's attitude to the human race is admirable.
Race hatred is being deliberately engineered to justify and provoke 'big buck' wars

Race Hatred is bred by wars and religion, nobody is perfect but if your neighbour looks more like the false image you have of your God, then you will tolerate him until he turns the volume up on his HI-FI.

Bagpuss 20-05-2009 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 715197)
Unusually subtle for you, that. You practically hid the little dig away. Don't go soft on us ;)

Let's not get silly with 'keyboard wargames'. I know for a fact that we agree on many principles. We don't want illegal immigrants to enter the country, we don't want migrants to be preferred to British workers for jobs in the UK, we don't want British soldiers to be abused. That's just some.

The difference in views on the latter issue seems to be that I see all people who abuse soldiers as the same breed. I don't care if they practice Islam or wear nipple tassles on Thursday nights. They're all idiots and their actions are disgusting. They should all be brought to justice. Your view, and that of the British Nazi Party, is that only immigrants and Muslims attack soldiers. Any attacks by British people on British soldiers must be drunken scuffles and therefore not comparitive to the attacks by Muslims.

The BNP breed ignorance and hate. The cornerstones of the party are angry quotes from angry people dressing up racism as patriotism, taken in by people who really should know better.

Nice post shaker, I will add that the drunks or jolly white lads from England are investigated by the police and if caught charged with a crime. The muslims in Luton where allowed to scream their hatred without arrest, think I'd get away with it if I fancied a bit of racial abuse tonight???

flashy 20-05-2009 18:15

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dont worry about it Baggy, i got loadsa sh!t the other year for admitting i voted for the BNP, when it comes down to it YOU vote for who YOU want hun, take no notice of anyone else, its YOUR life and you do what you think is best

Neil 20-05-2009 18:20

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 715392)
dont worry about it Baggy, i got loadsa sh!t the other year for admitting i voted for the BNP, when it comes down to it YOU vote for who YOU want hun, take no notice of anyone else, its YOUR life and you do what you think is best

Exactly flashy. You vote for who you want, it is up to you and no one else.

Bagpuss 20-05-2009 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 715392)
dont worry about it Baggy, i got loadsa sh!t the other year for admitting i voted for the BNP, when it comes down to it YOU vote for who YOU want hun, take no notice of anyone else, its YOUR life and you do what you think is best

Me worry, not on your life. I have strong views on certain subjects and when the occasion arises I will fight my corner, shakermaker knows this from the Stanley section. I do not vote for any particular political party nor am I a member of any. I'm a strong supporter of Graham Jones but only because I feel he is the best person to serve the Peel Ward. I voted BNP as a protest vote last time but I won't be this time, believe or not. I can take abuse from mancie all day I think he's funny for a manc.:)
To be honest I feel I should start my own party as none of them (BNP included) can offer what I want.;)

flashy 20-05-2009 20:25

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i'll join that party ;)

Restless 20-05-2009 20:59

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they disgust me and they are fascists plain and simple. Not just against immigrants and people that are not white but against people that are gay too etc etc.

anybody that votes them deserves all the **** in the god damn world.... May as well not won the 2nd world war and live in a fascist state

shakermaker 20-05-2009 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715391)
Nice post shaker, I will add that the drunks or jolly white lads from England are investigated by the police and if caught charged with a crime. The muslims in Luton where allowed to scream their hatred without arrest, think I'd get away with it if I fancied a bit of racial abuse tonight???

Was any of the abuse racial? I understood that the abuse hurled at the soldiers, although disgusting in its own right, was politically rather than racially motivated.

Rules on protests, as we've seen on two massive occasions in the past months, need to be examined thoroughly and rectified. We can have freedom of protest in this great country without bankers/soldiers/whoever being blatantly abused and attacked.

grannyclaret 20-05-2009 21:37

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This time i think i will just spoil my vote...i cant find one decent party to vote for,,,:confused::confused::confused:

MargaretR 21-05-2009 00:51

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Look who is coming to dinner:eek:
Fascist on the Palace lawn: Storm as BNP leader is invited to Queen's summer garden party | Mail Online

I turned down such an invite once you know :rolleyes:(I dont tell porkies)
..this will work wonders for our Republic movement :)

Neil 21-05-2009 04:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 715437)
Was any of the abuse racial? I understood that the abuse hurled at the soldiers, although disgusting in its own right, was politically rather than racially motivated.

Rules on protests, as we've seen on two massive occasions in the past months, need to be examined thoroughly and rectified. We can have freedom of protest in this great country without bankers/soldiers/whoever being blatantly abused and attacked.

This is a picture from the newspaper at the time taken from the thread we had about it. You decide what type of abuse it was.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...s-parade-1.jpg

steeljack 21-05-2009 05:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715457)
Look who is coming to dinner:eek:
Fascist on the Palace lawn: Storm as BNP leader is invited to Queen's summer garden party | Mail Online

I turned down such an invite once you know :rolleyes:(I dont tell porkies)
..this will work wonders for our Republic movement :)

Whats the problem , Her uncle and his skank of a wife went to Tea with 'Oncle' Adolf , guess she is just following a family tradition , isn't one of the young ones knocking about with one of Mugabes henchmen ;) ;) :rolleyes:

turkishdelight 21-05-2009 10:04

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Nick Griffin will be a guest at the garden party hosted by the Queen.

jaysay 21-05-2009 10:33

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 715491)
Nick Griffin will be a guest at the garden party hosted by the Queen.

Bit slow on there Mrs B its been discussed in the last few posts on this thread:D

turkishdelight 21-05-2009 10:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 715502)
Bit slow on there Mrs B its been discussed in the last few posts on this thread:D

I have read them however just thought i would mention Nick Griffin.

andrewb 21-05-2009 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 715504)
I have read them however just thought i would mention Nick Griffin.

What Jaysay is saying is Nick Griffin possibly being invited has been discussed already in the thread. :)

turkishdelight 21-05-2009 11:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 715508)
What Jaysay is saying is Nick Griffin possibly being invited has been discussed already in the thread. :)

Point taken, however not possibly been invited. Has been invited.

jaysay 21-05-2009 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 715510)
Point taken, however not possibly been invited. Has been invited.

No he will be going as GUEST of a BNP member of the London Assembly not in his own right

andrewb 21-05-2009 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 715510)
Point taken, however not possibly been invited. Has been invited.

Unless this has changed since last night, it has been requested that he be a guest of a LGA member, but they could refuse this and hopefully will. There's nothing British about the BNP!

turkishdelight 21-05-2009 11:23

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 715515)
Unless this has changed since last night, it has been requested that he be a guest of a LGA member, but they could refuse this and hopefully will. There's nothing British about the BNP!

I know he has been invited has a guest but same difference he is still invited.

shakermaker 21-05-2009 14:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 715461)
This is a picture from the newspaper at the time taken from the thread we had about it. You decide what type of abuse it was.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...s-parade-1.jpg

The only clear sign there reads 'Muslims rise against British oppression', oh and the one in the back demonstrating the number of Iraq war casualties.
I can't make out what the others are.

Where's the racial abuse?

Bagpuss 21-05-2009 14:45

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 715555)
Where's the racial abuse?

Learn to lip-read.;)

shakermaker 21-05-2009 14:55

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It's pretty difficult to lip-read people on a photograph :D

jaysay 21-05-2009 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 715516)
I know he has been invited has a guest but same difference he is still invited.

Fortunately the invites have not gone out yet, according to the palace, and they can refuse anyone they feel undesirable

Less 21-05-2009 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 715584)
Fortunately the invites have not gone out yet, according to the palace, and they can refuse anyone they feel undesirable

So, you'll be missing out again Jaysay, not to worry, you're in good company.

:o

Bagpuss 21-05-2009 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 715564)
It's pretty difficult to lip-read people on a photograph :D

Put my blinkers on and it's easy:rolleyes::)

garinda 21-05-2009 22:57

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I think it'd be nice for the Duke of Edinburgh to have someone to chat with about the slanty eyed Chinks and the Fuzzy Wuzzies.

Neil 22-05-2009 07:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 715502)
Quote:

Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 715491)
Nick Griffin will be a guest at the garden party hosted by the Queen.

Bit slow on there Mrs B its been discussed in the last few posts on this thread:D

I thought the Queen was supposed to be non political so what is wrong with having a visit from a politician of a legal party?

garinda 22-05-2009 07:54

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 715741)
I thought the Queen was supposed to be non political so what is wrong with having a visit from a politician of a legal party?

Nothing at all. He's a member of a legal, political party, and won't be the only person with a spent criminal conviction, to attend a royal garden party.

Let's not forget she's royally entertained President Mugabe, on more than one occasion.

jaysay 22-05-2009 09:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 715585)
So, you'll be missing out again Jaysay, not to worry, you're in good company.

:o

:s_cry::s_cry::s_cry::s_cry::D:D

jaysay 22-05-2009 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 715741)
I thought the Queen was supposed to be non political so what is wrong with having a visit from a politician of a legal party?

Unfortunately Neil, I can't see this Nazi rabble as a political party, they're just a bunch of racist thugs:(

garinda 22-05-2009 10:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 715764)
Unfortunately Neil, I can't see this Nazi rabble as a political party, they're just a bunch of racist thugs:(

But they're either a legitimate political party or they aren't, and the fact is they are.

Sadly I'm not so naive to believe that there aren't racists in many other political parties too.

Gayle 22-05-2009 10:37

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I'm alarmed by the BNP for many reasons but I'm also quite certain that they stand a good chance of doing well in these elections. Traditional Labour and Conservative voters are deserting both parties in droves, even the LibDems will suffer from the recent scandals. BNP could get quite a grip of the European parliament.

jaysay 22-05-2009 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 715790)
I'm alarmed by the BNP for many reasons but I'm also quite certain that they stand a good chance of doing well in these elections. Traditional Labour and Conservative voters are deserting both parties in droves, even the LibDems will suffer from the recent scandals. BNP could get quite a grip of the European parliament.

Think your right there Gayle according to a latest poll the Tories are static, Labour up 1 Lib/ems down 5:confused:

Less 22-05-2009 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 715790)
I'm alarmed by the BNP for many reasons but I'm also quite certain that they stand a good chance of doing well in these elections. Traditional Labour and Conservative voters are deserting both parties in droves, even the LibDems will suffer from the recent scandals. BNP could get quite a grip of the European parliament.


Perhaps they have the advantage?

So far they haven't screwed us for expenses!

The only way to keep them out is to dismiss the 'iffy' folk and introduce a new lot that are scrutinised for their ex's from the beginning.

Let's be honest, all of them will have started with small fib's, then found nothing to stop it and so become greedy.
:(

Mancie 22-05-2009 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 715147)
So that make everything ok does it?
Call yourself English it's people like you that have got us in the state we are now, too soft, but if it had been Conservatives that abused a Labour march you would have been up in arms.:)

appollogies for the spelling and grammar

yesterday (thursday) I was at Guys hospital for a routine blood test.. this particular department is always packed and your appoinment is never on time...it was packed and all the seats taken and I'd say most of us were white....I was leaning against the wall with other people when a bloke across from me got a call on his mobile...he answers the call saying "hello, yeah..I'm in the refugee camp, it's full of em... yeah i'ts like bangladesh"
a woman next to me sniggers..and says its a disgrace...the bloke finishes his call and asks the woman "is there loads of em down your way?"
"yeah"
"look at the one behind the reception desk... jumps off a boat from Botswana a straight into a job..probably can't speak English"
the bloke pulls out some cards ..I see the Union Jack on them ..he gives one to the woman saying "we aint gonna put up with this sh1t for much longer...I'm from Barking"..the woman takes the card and..seeing as I was stood there and he knew I had heard this convo he offers me a card..I said I'm not interested..... "not interested in your country?" i said "Im not interested in the BNP" I could have said alot worse but felt better of it.
I'ts typical of the BNP members I've known
And Yes I DO CALL MYSELF ENGLISH!

garinda 22-05-2009 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715982)
"we aint gonna put up with this sh1t for much longer...I'm from Barking"

I think it just proves that you don't actually have to be barking, to live in Barking, but it does help.

The documentary 'All White in Barking', about B.N.P. members living there, showed just how thick most of them are.

Especially funny was the old geezer ranting on about mixed marriages, who hadn't realised his doted upon grandchild was mixed race, until it was pointed out to him by the film maker.

Class.

BBC - White Season - All White in Barking

jaysay 23-05-2009 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715982)
appollogies for the spelling and grammar

yesterday (thursday) I was at Guys hospital for a routine blood test.. this particular department is always packed and your appoinment is never on time...it was packed and all the seats taken and I'd say most of us were white....I was leaning against the wall with other people when a bloke across from me got a call on his mobile...he answers the call saying "hello, yeah..I'm in the refugee camp, it's full of em... yeah i'ts like bangladesh"
a woman next to me sniggers..and says its a disgrace...the bloke finishes his call and asks the woman "is there loads of em down your way?"
"yeah"
"look at the one behind the reception desk... jumps off a boat from Botswana a straight into a job..probably can't speak English"
the bloke pulls out some cards ..I see the Union Jack on them ..he gives one to the woman saying "we aint gonna put up with this sh1t for much longer...I'm from Barking"..the woman takes the card and..seeing as I was stood there and he knew I had heard this convo he offers me a card..I said I'm not interested..... "not interested in your country?" i said "Im not interested in the BNP" I could have said alot worse but felt better of it.
I'ts typical of the BNP members I've known
And Yes I DO CALL MYSELF ENGLISH!

Fare play Mancie, we don't have to put up with this tripe, I'd sooner spoil my vote than vote for these cretins

Neil 23-05-2009 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 716016)
I'd sooner spoil my vote than vote for these cretins

I thought we had already decided that would be the same a voting for them.


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