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jaysay 28-06-2009 09:51

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Just to upset the smokers even more, the EU are thinking of banning smoking outside pubs and offices as well as outdoor concerts like Glasto:eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes :

BERNADETTE 28-06-2009 10:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725053)
Just to upset the smokers even more, the EU are thinking of banning smoking outside pubs and offices as well as outdoor concerts like Glasto:eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes :

A sure fire way to close the few remaining pubs that are left trading:rolleyes:

MargaretR 28-06-2009 11:07

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Many landlords will not have smokers as tenants.
I can understand that they do not want their property to smell of tobacco, but there are natural wholesome ways to avoid all household smells.
People with flatulence are more obnoxious :D

jaysay 28-06-2009 12:52

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 725080)
A sure fire way to close the few remaining pubs that are left trading:rolleyes:

Looks that way Bernie, as a none smoker it was a good move for me, but I do have sympathy with people who like a fag with their pint, I know I used to. Can't see why pubs couldn't have a designated smoking room with extractor fans taking the smoke out of the building, that to me would have kept everybody happy

jaysay 28-06-2009 12:54

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 725084)
Many landlords will not have smokers as tenants.
I can understand that they do not want their property to smell of tobacco, but there are natural wholesome ways to avoid all household smells.
People with flatulence are more obnoxious :D

So you to spent time in the tap room in your younger days Margaret:D

derekgas 28-06-2009 13:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725115)
Looks that way Bernie, as a none smoker it was a good move for me, but I do have sympathy with people who like a fag with their pint, I know I used to. Can't see why pubs couldn't have a designated smoking room with extractor fans taking the smoke out of the building, that to me would have kept everybody happy

Karma for that Jaysay, If my perception of you is correct, I believe you are an ex smoker, and also may have been seriously harmed by the effects of yours, and other people smoking (until proved otherwise anyway), as such, your understanding of the needs of some smokers, is a credit to the common sense you possess!

'erindoors 28-06-2009 14:46

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 724831)

i bet theirs more kids wheezing through lack of breath from been over weight than what there is from mum or dad smoking in teh car

There probably is Accyman, and it needs sorting, but, isn't that a different subject/thread altogether?! you can help those that are overweight, to lose weight, you can't clean out their lungs from breathing in smoke fumes!! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by churchman phil (Post 724836)
Incidentally, my thoughts on this are that the selfishness of some parents towards their children are too unbelievable for words. How the hell can you expect to teach them smoking is wrong and unhealthy for the human body when you're doing it in front of them? You may as well teach them to smoke....

Agree...!! x

jaysay 28-06-2009 17:41

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 725123)
Karma for that Jaysay, If my perception of you is correct, I believe you are an ex smoker, and also may have been seriously harmed by the effects of yours, and other people smoking (until proved otherwise anyway), as such, your understanding of the needs of some smokers, is a credit to the common sense you possess!

Thanks derek, I'd never nag anybody to give up smoking although it has not done my health much good, I just think there should be a bit of common sense used and smoking areas to me would have been the answer rather than an all out ban. People make their own decisions in life and we don't really need the nanny state taking these decisions out of peoples own hands

BERNADETTE 28-06-2009 23:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725115)
Looks that way Bernie, as a none smoker it was a good move for me, but I do have sympathy with people who like a fag with their pint, I know I used to. Can't see why pubs couldn't have a designated smoking room with extractor fans taking the smoke out of the building, that to me would have kept everybody happy

John I would have more respect for their decisions (be it Labour, Tory or whoever happens to get into power that makes it) if they just banned tobacco sales completely if they were so concerned about the adverse effect passive smoking can cause. Now as we all know NONE of them will do that because of the loss of taxes paid on these products. If and when any of them are brave enough to fetch a complete ban on tobacco sales I might gain a bit of respect for their preaching. Won't hold my breath waiting though:rolleyes:

Mancie 29-06-2009 05:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 725053)
Just to upset the smokers even more, the EU are thinking of banning smoking outside pubs and offices as well as outdoor concerts like Glasto:eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes :

Rubbish...were did you get that from?.. if please post stuff that is at least from this planet.. and Hey..thats tax payers gas you are sniffing..supplied by us via a labour government..stop moanin and pray David Cameron don't turn the tap off next year:confused:

steeljack 29-06-2009 06:47

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 725281)
Rubbish...were did you get that from?.. if please post stuff that is at least from this planet.. and Hey..thats tax payers gas you are sniffing..supplied by us via a labour government..stop moanin and pray David Cameron don't turn the tap off next year:confused:

Mancie , here you go EU zealots demand a ban on smoking OUTSIDE pubs. | News | News Of The World

jaysay 29-06-2009 09:36

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 725281)
Rubbish...were did you get that from?.. if please post stuff that is at least from this planet.. and Hey..thats tax payers gas you are sniffing..supplied by us via a labour government..stop moanin and pray David Cameron don't turn the tap off next year:confused:

Mancie you really do need to change your TV and readng material, your never likely to learn anything about the real world in the Dandy and Beano or on Cbeebies and Boomerang kids channels:rolleyes:

blazey 29-06-2009 14:54

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Nearly all student accommodation at lancaster uni is non-smoking now. You get fined if you are caught smoking in your room. There will soon be no more smoking-allowed accommodation and the students will be expected to go outside.

I don't think it is unreasonable. Nicotine stains on the ceiling isn't very nice to look at and sometimes non-smokers do get put in those rooms sometimes. I feel for them!

accyman 30-06-2009 15:35

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then they can do what everyone else does when they move into a new place

clean it and decorate it and then once paying teh rent themselves do with it as they choose

blazey 30-06-2009 16:14

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 725629)
then they can do what everyone else does when they move into a new place

clean it and decorate it and then once paying teh rent themselves do with it as they choose


You can't decorate student accommodation. Plus most student accommodation has those ceiling tiles that are made of polystyrene. Not the easiest things to clean.

You aren't even allowed candles in student accommodation so I don't see why they should allow smoking. Both are fire hazards, and cigarette smoke has the added problem of staining the ceiling, annoying neighbouring students and making everything stink. Is it really that much to ask that smokers go outside to avoid these problems?


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