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Bagpuss 10-08-2009 18:52

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I used to live on a decent street until slimeball private landlords started buying up houses and moving in scumbag chav families and all the sh*t that comes with them. Now my nextdoor neighbour has had enough and is moving out, god knows what my family will have to put up with now. This should not be allowed to happen and I can see myself getting pretty stressed in the coming months as I will take no sh*t, probably end up in a cell to calm down.
So cheers to the council because I blame you for letting it get this far due to poor rules relating to private landlords. Also cheers to Graham Jones who seemed to be interested when he lived here but now he's gone so has whatever strings he could pull, dealing drugs and supplying alcohol to underage idiots is frequently observered at the local off licence and with all the chavs here now he is doing good business, rant over.:mad:

flashy 10-08-2009 18:56

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what area do you live in Bagpuss?

cashman 10-08-2009 18:57

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 735225)
what area do you live in bagpuss?

"accrington" P.M.S.L.

flashy 10-08-2009 18:58

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i kinda figured that bit out cashy

cashman 10-08-2009 18:59

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 735227)
i kinda figured that bit out cashy

i know shaz but our area aint so great as are many others.;)

Bagpuss 10-08-2009 19:00

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Peel ward, ex nice area under the coppice, Graham Jones and Bernard Dawsons ward.

cmonstanley 10-08-2009 19:46

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same happened on orange street nice quaint street early 1990s ,slum landlord wins auction on the end house and has left it empty for nine years now why doesnt the council not do anything backhanders? or what housing benefit fraud?????school [moorhead puts up nine foot fence and chops down the tree at the end of the street making the end of the street look like a prison..a few people die on the street the slum landlords move in end up havin 8 polish neighbours in one house drug dealers across the road out of control one of the reasons i moved to scotland its out of control in accrington all to do with the powers to be being cowards...accy has died a death im sorry to say and slum landlords are to blame one livin up past fern gore mainly to blame....

lindsay ormerod 10-08-2009 20:26

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Drop Graham or Bernard an email, see them both around here regularly, and I know for a fact that they both do care about our area!:D

Bagpuss 10-08-2009 20:32

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 735251)
Drop Graham or Bernard an email, see them both around here regularly, and I know for a fact that they both do care about our area!:D

Bernards already been in touch, haven't seen Graham for a month or so. Have chatted to the police, waste of time, not happy...........:mad:

cmonstanley 10-08-2009 20:55

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yep the local politicians councillors in accy are useless theyve got there own agenda and dont give a :rolleyes:i complained about the empty house at the end of orange street umpteen times and all i got its in the wrong area:confused: they cant do nothing..

Lilly 10-08-2009 21:00

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I feel really sorry that this is happening, Bagpuss. :(

It makes me very sad to see. It's not fair on people like you, you shouldn't have to put up with it.

I don't know what can be done but hopefully you will get a response from someone who can advise. :(

cmonstanley 10-08-2009 21:07

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there is nothing you can do bagpuss ,i learned from experience and just got the hell out of it:(i think thats what you should do while you can..

BERNADETTE 10-08-2009 21:07

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This is happening all to often in decent areas and it is out of order. My mate lived in the Woodnook area, she had a lovely house. Due to houses let by private landlords to any Tom, Dick or Harry she sold up. The price she got was scandalous to say the money she had spent on it but at least where she is now there is no danger of her getting attacked or abused. She was like you Bagpuss and had a few run ins with neighbours before she moved but why should decent folk have to put up with this crap??

cmonstanley 10-08-2009 21:12

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because all the pc do gooders let the scum get away with it there should be laws to stop this but even if there were laws there would be nobody to implement them.its total anarchy in accrington now im glad i got out when i did i feel sorry for everybody left behind and one of the reasons theres more scum is the place in lydia street and maundy grange which has been mistreated and just attracted the scum of our society...

cashman 10-08-2009 21:22

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Lydia st, was walking on yon yesterday n a young gentleman in a black T-Shirt n baseball cap says have ya a fag Mr? (was smoking at time) i says have you a fiver mate, so i can get a packet as theres only 1 left in mine.:D, young gentleman shuts gob n scurried away.:D;)

MargaretR 10-08-2009 21:47

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I had a house in Church and sold it dirt cheap in order to get out.
I have never regretted it.

Bagpuss 11-08-2009 04:15

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 735268)
maundy grange which has been mistreated and just attracted the scum of our society...

Don't get me started on Maundy Grange.......................aaaaaah.:mad:

jaysay 11-08-2009 09:10

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 735281)
I had a house in Church and sold it dirt cheap in order to get out.
I have never regretted it.

Was that getting out of the house or getting out of Church Margaret:D

MargaretR 11-08-2009 10:43

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 735354)
Was that getting out of the house or getting out of Church Margaret:D

Both - Away from the neighbours and away from pollution

lettie 11-08-2009 10:48

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Me and Sparks have the same problem as Bagpuss, as elderly people have died off on our street, the houses have been bought up by private landlords (many of whom don't even live in the area). Their houses are either left to rot, usually with several rat attracting bags of rubbish in the back yard), or they are rented to complete and utter scum. Compared to houses of similar size in other parts of Accy, our houses are worth far less.

We are not in a position to sell up and move, even though we have no mortgage. Our area is one of those in the pipeline for redevelopment and there may have to be compulsory purchases of some properties around here. Until definite plans are released, our house is in limbo and it wouldn't be worth putting it up for sale and paying the relevant survey fees until we know.

I am personally praying now that we end up with a compulsory purchase order. It will save us the hassle of trying to sell what is a cosy terrace in a once nice, but now scrotey area.

cashman 11-08-2009 10:49

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 735393)
Both - Away from the neighbours and away from pollution

I did the same in the 80s n you were still there then margaret.:D:D;)

MargaretR 11-08-2009 12:12

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When I sold that terraced house in Church, I sold it to a young man from Salford who wore a black hat and waistcoat and had long curly sideburns
(said all that to avoid being labelled antisemitic)
I did not care who came to live there after me because my neighbours from hell deserved a dose of their own medicine.
I was delighted to hear that a young man who had burgled them twice had moved in :D

jaysay 11-08-2009 16:08

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 735410)
When I sold that terraced house in Church, I sold it to a young man from Salford who wore a black hat and waistcoat and had long curly sideburns
(said all that to avoid being labelled antisemitic)
I did not care who came to live there after me because my neighbours from hell deserved a dose of their own medicine.
I was delighted to hear that a young man who had burgled them twice had moved in :D

I think Rindi's signature applies in that case Margaret:D

Bagpuss 11-08-2009 17:10

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Got home from work and the scum have been up to something again, 2 police cars and a van to go with the 15 or so wasters who don't work, nice, yes what you need after a crap day.

katex 11-08-2009 20:55

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Just wondered Bagpuss if you went to the consultations Fri. afternoon/Sat. morning which was the one for the Peel Park area? Last week was Woodnook. Aimed at improvement, particularly in the housing situation. Could have seen what the council is trying to do, and you could have had your say or ask the questions that have been worrying you.

Bagpuss 11-08-2009 22:15

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 735538)
Just wondered Bagpuss if you went to the consultations Fri. afternoon/Sat. morning which was the one for the Peel Park area? Last week was Woodnook. Aimed at improvement, particularly in the housing situation. Could have seen what the council is trying to do, and you could have had your say or ask the questions that have been worrying you.

If I'd have known I would have gone but anyway I was working Friday afternoon and Saturday morning so the times wouldn't have been much use to me.

g jones 11-08-2009 23:53

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I am only two blocks further away. I have the two worst families, one at the back ond one on my block.

It all feels like ordinary people don't matter.

Anyway - the list of achievements;

landlord licensing nearing starting. Spoke with MD today. On track. Will cover most terraced housing.

Visual Blight. I have personally dragged the Council from doing nothing to being effective. Todays meeting included the scummy house on Orange St. I have worked my nuts off for you to get to where we are. Rotten householders are being dealt with with a big stick. Under Labour the stick will be twice as thick and twice as long. The Tories simply do not understand but the public keep voting for softly softly do little policies.

Thirdly I will again be asking Council to scrap all Council Tax discounts to private landlords. Again the public voted for this administration which opposes what I have proposed.

With the police we are profiling the scroats backed up with action. April saw 3 more evictions/flits out of problem properties. Another one is coming.

I personally have fought to get master planning and regen in East Accrington.

I have spent 4 years setting up Neighbourhood Management with a long list of efforts. One property on Cedar has been fined over a £1000 twice and there was a bog fine on a neighbouribg Street.

I have recently done a bog piece of work on law to change from hopeless diary sheets to fixed penalty notices for noise nuisance.

I am currently trying to make the Coincil respond to boarded up properties which are illegal.

Most of this is happening in our area. I have also tidied up the gable end at the bottom.

I am working as hard as o ever have. It's the public who are to blame for shamefully and complacently allowing a Tory Council in who clearly not interested in policies that help ordinary people.

g jones 12-08-2009 00:05

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Last msg sent from mobile!

steeljack 12-08-2009 03:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 735609)
It's the public who are to blame for shamefully and complacently allowing a Tory Council in who clearly not interested in policies that help ordinary people.

I'm sure the voters of Rishton , especially the ones who were subjected to over two years disruption by the crazy woman and her 24/7 music will be delighted to read that it was their own fault for allowing the disturbances and not the lack of any 'cojones' by the local police or council to tackle the problem :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mick 12-08-2009 05:03

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We have a private landlord although he is ok trying to get anything done is very hard as he lives in south shields.
Last year he promised to concrete the back yard i was not holding much hope, but the following week aug 1 2008 he turned up with a huge skip and some mates and they spent all day digging the rubble out must have dug down a good 6 in of ground out ready .
then he said they would be back the next weekend and would order the concrete
its now aug 12th 2009 and we are still waiting
every time it starts raining my back yard is like a swimming pool
we also have the obligatory idiots at the bottom end of the street who like to play music as loud as they can at 2am and have drunken street parties late into the night with bottles and beer cans being thrown all over the place

cmonstanley 12-08-2009 06:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 735609)
I am only two blocks further away. I have the two worst families, one at the back ond one on my block.

It all feels like ordinary people don't matter.

Anyway - the list of achievements;

landlord licensing nearing starting. Spoke with MD today. On track. Will cover most terraced housing.

Visual Blight. I have personally dragged the Council from doing nothing to being effective. Todays meeting included the scummy house on Orange St. I have worked my nuts off for you to get to where we are. Rotten householders are being dealt with with a big stick. Under Labour the stick will be twice as thick and twice as long. The Tories simply do not understand but the public keep voting for softly softly do little policies.

Thirdly I will again be asking Council to scrap all Council Tax discounts to private landlords. Again the public voted for this administration which opposes what I have proposed.

With the police we are profiling the scroats backed up with action. April saw 3 more evictions/flits out of problem properties. Another one is coming.

I personally have fought to get master planning and regen in East Accrington.

I have spent 4 years setting up Neighbourhood Management with a long list of efforts. One property on Cedar has been fined over a £1000 twice and there was a bog fine on a neighbouribg Street.

I have recently done a bog piece of work on law to change from hopeless diary sheets to fixed penalty notices for noise nuisance.

I am currently trying to make the Coincil respond to boarded up properties which are illegal.

Most of this is happening in our area. I have also tidied up the gable end at the bottom.

I am working as hard as o ever have. It's the public who are to blame for shamefully and complacently allowing a Tory Council in who clearly not interested in policies that help ordinary people.

too little too late for me but good luck to you it seems certain councillors have their own agenda ,when i complained to the council it was like banging my head against a wall...hope your successful for the sake of the rest of accy..

BERNADETTE 12-08-2009 09:47

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g.jones It's the public who are to blame for shamefully and complacently allowing a Tory Council in who clearly not interested in policies that help ordinary people
Why do you always have to spoil good posts with cheap shot comments? It is ridiculous to try and blame these sort of problems on which party is in power. I am sure there are many Tory councillors working hard for the residents they are elected to represent and as has been said before in local elections people tend to vote for someone they can rely on. Political allegiance doesn't come into it for a lot of people in the locals. So they are being neither shameful nor complacent when casting their vote, simply looking out for their best interests as seems to be the norm in most areas these days!!!!

Yolanda25 12-08-2009 11:06

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i must admit that although the area where i live is not the best, the street where i live in church is great, u always have the odd pain in ass driving with noisy cars but apart from that my neighbours on both sides are great, no problems at all since we moved in november last year, wich is good enough for me cuz we have bought the house so,i cant complain at all

jaysay 12-08-2009 15:59

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 735652)
Why do you always have to spoil good posts with cheap shot comments? It is ridiculous to try and blame these sort of problems on which party is in power. I am sure there are many Tory councillors working hard for the residents they are elected to represent and as has been said before in local elections people tend to vote for someone they can rely on. Political allegiance doesn't come into it for a lot of people in the locals. So they are being neither shameful nor complacent when casting their vote, simply looking out for their best interests as seems to be the norm in most areas these days!!!!

Thats what Graham Jones does Bernie, just uses Accy Web to try and score cheap political points, never posts on anything else, He's just a malignant narcissistic whack job

Restless 12-08-2009 16:44

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never heard of him before today lol

Bagpuss 12-08-2009 18:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 735711)
Thats what Graham Jones does Bernie, just uses Accy Web to try and score cheap political points, never posts on anything else, He's just a malignant narcissistic whack job

And Britcliffe uses the Observer, Graham is well thought of as one of the councillors for Peel ward perhaps that's why he keeps getting voted back despite being Labour.

cashman 12-08-2009 20:01

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 735745)
And Britcliffe uses the Observer, Graham is well thought of as one of the councillors for Peel ward perhaps that's why he keeps getting voted back despite being Labour.

and as n observation that in my view more people read the Observer than read accyweb, then i think its a bit rich calling graham jones narcisstic jaysay.:D

Royboy39 12-08-2009 21:05

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 735745)
And Britcliffe uses the Observer, Graham is well thought of as one of the councillors for Peel ward perhaps that's why he keeps getting voted back despite being Labour.

And so does Britcliffe despite being Conservative..:confused:

cashman 12-08-2009 21:12

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 735779)
And so does Britcliffe despite being Conservative..:confused:

not very hard to figure out, conservative council.plus ossy has been so fer many a year.:rolleyes:

Royboy39 12-08-2009 21:17

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 735794)
not very hard to figure out, conservative council.plus ossy has been so fer many a year.:rolleyes:

Does it come across as a hard question as to why this has been the situation? :rolleyes: :confused:

Bagpuss 12-08-2009 21:34

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IMHO I bet most private landlords vote Conservative.

Royboy39 12-08-2009 21:43

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 735807)
IMHO I bet most private landlords vote Conservative.

What percentage of the population are private landlords?
I bet.....and yes I am a betting man, the vote that you claim is less than 3% of the electorate. ;)

g jones 12-08-2009 23:52

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 735652)
Why do you always have to spoil good posts with cheap shot comments? It is ridiculous to try and blame these sort of problems on which party is in power. I am sure there are many Tory councillors working hard for the residents they are elected to represent and as has been said before in local elections people tend to vote for someone they can rely on. Political allegiance doesn't come into it for a lot of people in the locals. So they are being neither shameful nor complacent when casting their vote, simply looking out for their best interests as seems to be the norm in most areas these days!!!!

Working together was plan a. It failed. Tories did not approve of the things I believed in. So with no plan a, it's plan b. Vote them out in order to achieve a clampdown on landlords. To me it is a simple 2 step precedure. I am not prepared to wait infinitum in the vain hope that Tories will change their views and take some action. It's not party politics but principle and pro action!

g jones 12-08-2009 23:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 735711)
Thats what Graham Jones does Bernie, just uses Accy Web to try and score cheap political points, never posts on anything else, He's just a malignant narcissistic whack job

No you're right. I am not a media whore. Just a grafter who won't give up.

BERNADETTE 13-08-2009 02:22

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 735843)
Working together was plan a. It failed. Tories did not approve of the things I believed in. So with no plan a, it's plan b. Vote them out in order to achieve a clampdown on landlords. To me it is a simple 2 step precedure. I am not prepared to wait infinitum in the vain hope that Tories will change their views and take some action. It's not party politics but principle and pro action!

So by your reckoning or so it reads to me we have no Tory councillors working to stamp out the blight of absent landlords? Sorry but can't accept that as I know of at least one Tory councillor who like yourself is pro-active in the area he was appointed to in trying to sort this sort of thing out. There are probably a lot more on both sides who are aiming to sort their various wards out.
Just because you believe the leader of the council to not be pro active on this issue does not therefore follow that all are Tory councillors aren't.
To my mind (probably a new thread) area coucils might not be such a bad idea because our elected councillors of both parties just seem to be interested improving the areas they live in rather than the whole of the borough.
Of course we can discount from that theory the councillors who work tirelessly for wards in which they don't reside. Time you ALL worked together for the residents you were elected to represent IMHO.

Restless 13-08-2009 06:53

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thing about landlords. How do they always manage to screw you out of your money when you're leaving a property.

I have had and seen several negative experiences with landlords. My first was around 1998ish when i lived in the flat above the post office on blackburn road. There was an electric meter and i had to go and get old 50p from the old robbing bastard downstairs who owned the post office. I was paying for gas in that flat. Stupid me not knowing about the heating there was run by electric & the oven run by electric. Only the post office downstairs had gas installed. I later found this out by bashir who runs the post office now when i mentioned how the hell did i run up a gas bill of 300£ when i left it was still owing.

Worst living conditions i have seen are bedsits. In my experience they are horrible places to live just by the fact you have to share your kitchen and bathroom with complete strangers. Alan duffy owned them on wellington street where i was stopping. I didn't even have a lock on my door to the room because he wouldn't fix it, every time i came home the guy across the hall came in and 'borrowed' my stereo. Eventually i was robbed by one of his druggy friends. Incidently this was on wellington street and from the window of the back bedsits you can see.....THE POLICE STATION!!

Even worst there was bedsits in a large property on hartman street. Two of my friends lived there. Only good thing to come out of that place was meeting a guy there and becoming friends. So you walk through the door and you have 2 doors left and right. On the left my friend lived. It was a average sized living room leading to another smaller bedroom. A bedroom which was also a kitchen...well not a kitchen but a bedroom that had an oven smack dead in the middle of a carpeted room...no kidding!!. On the right i never seen in the room, nor would i want to. I'm guessing the actual kitchen must of been in there. A heroin addict named dennis lived there and thought he was god(it actually said lord dennis thompson on his mail) only good thing about him was he didn't wash and who wants to share a bathroom with a smackhead. Upstairs you see 2 doors. one leading to a bathroom and the other to my friends room. A small room that has a door in the opposite corner from where you enter. You go through this door there the tiniest of lobby's. In this lobby was an oven and a fridge and you had to squash through to get into the bedroom. The guy that owned it used to be the Asian guy that owned the newspaper shop next to the second hand shop around the corner and he should of been prosecuted

Incidently the 2 friends moved into bedsits(of which was apparently named flats though kitchen and bathroom was also shared). In the old butcher shop on park road. Living conditions wasn't as bad but the funny part is he never even bothered to remove the tiles or the hooks from the ceiling!!!

jaysay 13-08-2009 08:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 735745)
And Britcliffe uses the Observer, Graham is well thought of as one of the councillors for Peel ward perhaps that's why he keeps getting voted back despite being Labour.

And besides Britcliffe being berated on this site and by Jones he has been councillor for St. Andrews Ward Ossy on HBC for 26 years without even coming close to being beaten, sounds to me he's dong most things right for those who elect him

jaysay 13-08-2009 08:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 735794)
not very hard to figure out, conservative council.plus ozzy has been so fer many a year.:rolleyes:

Its not that long since we had 8 labour councillors 1 Labour County Councillor and 1 Tory councillor, in Ossy, oh by the way that 1 Tory Councillor was Britcliffe:D

jaysay 13-08-2009 08:28

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 735844)
No you're right. I am not a media whore. Just a grafter who won't give up.

Thanks for Brightening up my morning, that was hilarious
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::r ofl38:

Bagpuss 13-08-2009 15:45

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 735895)
without even coming close to being beaten

That is not true ask Gayle.:)

jaysay 13-08-2009 16:03

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 736005)
That is not true ask Gayle.:)

I don't need to do that, he won by around 140 which believe me is quite easy in St Andrews ward, and that's with no disrespect to Gayle, in fact I don't think he's ever had a majority under 100, I know his top majority is nearly 500

g jones 13-08-2009 18:52

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I would go one step further. When these policies are brought forward by myself I have tried to get support and received none from Tories even ones in Barnfield woodnook. I have taken it to full council and watched every Tory vote against.

You are right. Politics is about you own area. Everything is controlled and it is very difficult to get the information, find a forum you can present it so it has a chanc of debate and progression. Scrutiny Committee has been strangled by the Tories and the Constitution gerrymandered so many times debate is no longer possible in a real sense.

ask Dave Mason ex Tory. They are told nothing and not allowed to discuss anything. It has been a breath of fresh air for him to be independent an be invited to Labour meetings where the state of the Borough is discussed at every meeting.

g jones 13-08-2009 19:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 735897)
Thanks for Brightening up my morning, that was hilarious
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::r ofl38:

I expect you to try and stop me. You demonstrate what I am up against. You should be listening to residents, this thread and supporting my efforts for residents benefit. Not the Tory Party or party politics.

You are all in it for yourselves and not removing the scourge of Hyndburn. Landlords.

andrewb 14-08-2009 07:16

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 736082)
You are all in it for yourselves and not removing the scourge of Hyndburn. Landlords.

How many houses do you own, just the 1 is it? ;)

jaysay 14-08-2009 09:39

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 736193)
How many houses do you own, just the 1 is it? ;)

Shooooooooooooooooooooooosh:rolleyes:

jaysay 14-08-2009 09:41

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 736082)
I expect you to try and stop me. You demonstrate what I am up against. You should be listening to residents, this thread and supporting my efforts for residents benefit. Not the Tory Party or party politics.

You are all in it for yourselves and not removing the scourge of Hyndburn. Landlords.

I think the scourge of Hyndburn is you ya divvy;)

MargaretR 14-08-2009 12:27

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'Earwigo' again :rolleyes:
Perhaps this belongs in Anything Goes

Bagpuss 14-08-2009 13:03

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Ok children playtime is over.

jaysay 14-08-2009 16:12

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 736290)
'Earwigo' again :rolleyes:
Perhaps this belongs in Anything Goes

Well Margaret If Jones didn't come on here just to mouth off, I wouldn't need to make any comments, when he stops so will I, in the words of the Meerkat simples:rolleyes:

terminator 15-08-2009 18:21

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Who created this situation that some of us have to live in and put up with on a daily basis?
not just the national and local politicians- estate agents who profited from selling houses for investment at inflated prices with the promise of a speedy return on your investment-solicitors who advised property investors to broaden their portfolio's by diversifying into the buy to rent sector-property investment seminar specialist's who created a culture of buy now and sell it on to another junior investor-the culture of providing benefit payments to those who are not in control of their lives- shall I continue to apportion blame for this state that society is in?

flashy 15-08-2009 18:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 736385)
Well Margaret If Jones didn't come on here just to mouth off, I wouldn't need to make any comments, when he stops so will I, in the words of the Meerkat simples:rolleyes:


Jay dont you think what you just wrote sounds a bit childish? :rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 15-08-2009 19:57

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 736754)
Jay dont you think what you just wrote sounds a bit childish? :rolleyes:

Sounds more than a bit childish to me!:rolleyes:

cherokee 16-08-2009 00:56

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Well to say that this thread was about housing and tenant conditions it really never ceases to amaze me how once again it can turn it into a political slanging match.

I feel sorry for you Bagpuss. I am a private tenant and have happily been so without complaints for many years. There are a few other houses on our road that are also privately rented and some of the tenants are absolute nightmares,
Mainly with bringing domestic arguments and fights on to the stret, but non the less still a pain and something Id rather not be witness too.

I agree that the local authoritiies need to take action no matter what area and strict rules put in place
But I do find it sad that grown men and women come on here and end up turning what could be a very good and important discussion into a political slanging match without giving any thought to the question in hand.:(

jaysay 16-08-2009 09:31

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 736754)
Jay dont you think what you just wrote sounds a bit childish? :rolleyes:

Well when your dealing with children you have to stoop to their level:rolleyes:

lettie 16-08-2009 12:19

Re: Landlords
 
I agree with Cherokee... Why does nearly every sensible thread on this site have to turn into a political slanging match??? This has ruined a thread which was serious and affects some of us. I know that Graham has worked his btm off, in a practical way, to try and resolve some of these problems for those of us who are suffering on a daily basis and I fail to see how turning this into a tit for tat political bunfight contributes to the quality of this thread in any way.

This is actually one of the reasons that I rarely post on here any more.... It's tedious, so stop it.....

If you want constant political threads then ask Roy for a political section where you can spit dummies to your hearts' content.:mad:

andrewb 16-08-2009 13:13

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Problem is lettie that when somebody such as Councillor Jones posts about what they're doing in their neighbourhood it always ends with countless attacks on the Conservative council. A positive discussion about helping people and the borough that doesn't just come down to party political and hypocritical attacks in an attempt to get more votes would be greatly welcomed.

jaysay 16-08-2009 17:46

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lettie (Post 736946)
I agree with Cherokee... Why does nearly every sensible thread on this site have to turn into a political slanging match??? This has ruined a thread which was serious and affects some of us. I know that Graham has worked his btm off, in a practical way, to try and resolve some of these problems for those of us who are suffering on a daily basis and I fail to see how turning this into a tit for tat political bunfight contributes to the quality of this thread in any way.

This is actually one of the reasons that I rarely post on here any more.... It's tedious, so stop it.....

If you want constant political threads then ask Roy for a political section where you can spit dummies to your hearts' content.:mad:

Jones may work his backside of in his area but when he uses this site to slag of people like Brain Walmsley who's don't more for his community than Jones will ever do for is, both before becoming a councillor or since, just because he's a Conservative, then I'm sorry he ain't getting away with it, as I've said before if He stops so will I

garinda 16-08-2009 22:45

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737021)
Jones may work his backside of in his area but when he uses this site to slag of people like Brain Walmsley who's don't more for his community than Jones will ever do for is, both before becoming a councillor or since, just because he's a Conservative, then I'm sorry he ain't getting away with it, as I've said before if He stops so will I

Just stick the word Corporal in front of Jones, and that reads like an old Dad's Army Script.

We all know who you'd be, Mr. Temper-Tantrum.

http://www.charlesgarlandproductions...media/Bill.jpg

I always presumed the 'W' on the helmet stood for warden, but I'm not so sure now.:rolleyes:

:D

g jones 17-08-2009 11:05

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737021)
Jones may work his backside of in his area but when he uses this site to slag of people like Brain Walmsley who's don't more for his community than Jones will ever do for is, both before becoming a councillor or since, just because he's a Conservative, then I'm sorry he ain't getting away with it, as I've said before if He stops so will I


It is absolutely appalling to see this as Labour v Conservative. This is residents against Landlords with those elected standing up for respective viewpoints. I just happened to be determined that's all.

The idea we should all be wearing sandles, drink loads of cups of tea and eat biscuits to discuss setting up a sub committee on the matter which will set upa working group which will need a pre-meeting to determine the committee rules and that we should all (and I'll be blunt) - be 'p*ssing in the same pot' down at the Council is not why I got elected.

Jaysay. If you want me to work with you it's easy. I will. Give me the portfolio (and the authority) for Regeneration and it will be done ASAP. It's easy, we are all working together and the job gets done. Now there's an offer you can't refuse.

Landlords sorted, power sharing sorted, the end of any more squabbling... utopia!

jaysay 17-08-2009 11:17

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 737154)
It is absolutely appalling to see this as Labour v Conservative. This is residents against Landlords with those elected standing up for respective viewpoints. I just happened to be determined that's all.

The idea we should all be wearing sandles, drink loads of cups of tea and eat biscuits to discuss setting up a sub committee on the matter which will set up working group which will need a pre-meeting to determine the committee rules and that we should all (and I'll be blunt) - be 'p*ssing in the same pot' down at the Council is not why I got elected.

Jaysay. If you want me to work with you it's easy. I will. Give me the portfolio (and the authority) for Regeneration and it will be done ASAP. It's easy, we are all working together and the job gets done. Now there's an offer you can't refuse.

if its not a Labour verses Conservative thing then why do you keep making it so, its you that slags of Tory Councillors at every opportunity, for no valid reason, its not only you that works hard for their community ( and I have never said that you don't) the fact the PB has been reelected as St Andrews Ward councillor over the past 26 years speaks for itself, you don't get that support by sitting on your hands as you keep trying to say

flashy 17-08-2009 11:58

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i dont think IT IS Graham making it so Jay, i think its YOU who is making it so

flashy 17-08-2009 11:59

Re: Landlords
 
stop arse licking PB and grow up Jay

andrewb 17-08-2009 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 737162)
i dont think IT IS Graham making it so Jay, i think its YOU who is making it so


To be fair if you read Grahams posts in this very thread he writes out what he is doing for his residents, then goes on a rant about the Conservatives. Party political attacks for votes. He does this all the time because he literally hates Conservatives. Sadly I don't think they'll ever work together for this reason.

cashman 17-08-2009 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 737165)
To be fair if you read Grahams posts in this very thread he writes out what he is doing for his residents, then goes on a rant about the Conservatives. Party political attacks for votes. He does this all the time because he literally hates Conservatives. Sadly I don't think they'll ever work together for this reason.

now andrew graham is only playing at it........ its ME that literally HATES Conservatives.:D

flashy 17-08-2009 14:30

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 737165)
To be fair if you read Grahams posts in this very thread he writes out what he is doing for his residents, then goes on a rant about the Conservatives. Party political attacks for votes. He does this all the time because he literally hates Conservatives. Sadly I don't think they'll ever work together for this reason.


at least Graham has the bollox to come on here and speak up for himself...where's PB?....i'll tell ya where he is, he's hiding behind jaysay, wouldnt surprise me if he uses Jay's account on here too

cashman 17-08-2009 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 737181)
at least Graham has the bollox to come on here and speak up for himself...where's PB?....i'll tell ya where he is, he's hiding behind jaysay, wouldnt surprise me if he uses Jay's account on here too

he don't flashy, that i do know.;)

jaysay 17-08-2009 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 737181)
at least Graham has the bollox to come on here and speak up for himself...where's PB?....i'll tell ya where he is, he's hiding behind jaysay, wouldn't surprise me if he uses Jay's account on here too

Never in a million years, we've had this crape before, I'm my own man always have been always will be, Britcliffe doesn't need to come on here if you have anything to say you can go to his office and speak to him face to face not through a screen name. The only reason Jones uses this site is to play to his sycophants, they're only ones that listen,

accyman 17-08-2009 16:13

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ok ok ill admit it im peter britcliff :D

errr that was a joke by the way please dont pm me with questions about council matters

oh and i get enough hate mail as accyman so i dont want his either thanx :D

jaysay 17-08-2009 16:20

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 737203)
ok ok ill admit it im peter britcliff :D

errr that was a joke by the way please dont pm me with questions about council matters

oh and i get enough hate mail as accyman so i dont want his either thanx :D

Well that was quite obvious accyman don't think the real Britcliffe would spell his name wrong:rolleyes::D

flashy 17-08-2009 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737201)
Never in a million years, we've had this crape before, I'm my own man always have been always will be, Britcliffe doesn't need to come on here if you have anything to say you can go to his office and speak to him face to face not through a screen name. The only reason Jones uses this site is to play to his sycophants, they're only ones that listen,

PB doesn't need to come on here(as himself) when he has someone else to do his dirty work for him

This thread is about landlords, Graham was giving his opinion

lets get back to the case in hand shall we, instead of talking about that wazzock

garinda 17-08-2009 18:43

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737201)
Britcliffe doesn't need to come on here if you have anything to say you can go to his office and speak to him face to face not through a screen name.

But he did come on here, once!

Using the username LeadersofficeHBC.

Which he confirmed as being himself.

All very odd.

You claiming he doesn't need to contact people by using this forum, after he's done just that, is like someone having sex only one time, not really liking it, and then claiming to still be a virgin.

Very odd.

As others have said, I might not agree with what they are saying, but you've got to admire the politicans who do post on here. Though sadly none of them are from the Conservative party, except the one and only post from Cllr. Britcliffe.

Perhaps the cut and thrust of Accy Web is too scary a place for them to contemplate joining in.

Thus we are left with Little and Large, to give theit two penn'orth.

Shame.

garinda 17-08-2009 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737207)
Well that was quite obvious accyman don't think the real Britcliffe would spell his name wrong:rolleyes::D

No, he managed to get Hyndburn, Accrington and Chorley wrong on his B.B.C. c.v., but he did manage to spell his name correctly.


BBC NEWS | VOTE 2001 | CANDIDATES

:rolleyes:

garinda 17-08-2009 18:55

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Accriwoton & District Brough Council.

:rolleyes:

Sounds quite exotic, and yet quaint at the same time.

There may have been less opposition against him, with that proposal.

:D

lindsay ormerod 17-08-2009 19:27

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:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737201)
Never in a million years, we've had this crape before, I'm my own man always have been always will be, Britcliffe doesn't need to come on here if you have anything to say you can go to his office and speak to him face to face not through a screen name. The only reason Jones uses this site is to play to his sycophants, they're only ones that listen,

I object to being called a sycophant, and I am well known for supporting Graham's endeavours to make the area I live in better for all. The one and only tiime that anyone I know has tried to contact PB he was told, by the "great man" himself to sod off and stop bothering him, very caring. PB is himself a landlord of various properties, ( so I believe) so don't try to make out that Graham is in it for his own gain, or shall we muck rake over the "bus station/dress shop" palaver again? Jaysay, I respect your opinion, you are entitled to it but until you come and see how much hard work Graham and Bernard put into the area you really haven't a clue.
I was happy to put my name on Graham's nomination paper and would do so again a thousandfold because he actually cares.:)
ps sycophant= "servile flatterer, a toady" recognise anyone from that?

garinda 17-08-2009 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737234)
But he did come on here, once!

Using the username LeadersofficeHBC.

Which he confirmed as being himself.

All very odd.

I tell a lie.

There are two posts.

This one, written in the third person, and which resulted in me being told off for mentioning multiple peronalities in a subsequent post.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post701192

Then there was this one. The one with him mixing up commas and full stops, which meant the figures read in thousands, rather than the millions of pounds they were supposed to.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post691676

Only two posts, but two corkers.

garinda 17-08-2009 19:36

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...and of course it was the rather grand username of TheLeadersOfficeHBC, not LeadersOfficeHBC.

Silly me.

:D

cashman 17-08-2009 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737258)
...and of course it was the rather grand username of TheLeadersOfficeHBC, not LeadersOfficeHBC.

Silly me.

:D

never mind if a turd is pink n smells of roses.......its still a turd.:D

MargaretR 17-08-2009 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 737260)
never mind if a turd is pink n smells of roses.......its still a turd.:D

So that is really why they need to change the roses :)

garinda 17-08-2009 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 737260)
never mind if a turd is pink n smells of roses.......its still a turd.:D


....or Turkish Delight.

Yuk.

An easy mistake to make.

:D

andrewb 17-08-2009 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones
You are all in it for yourselves and not removing the scourge of Hyndburn. Landlords.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 736193)
How many houses do you own, just the 1 is it? ;)

YouTube - The Tremeloes - Silence is Golden

MargaretR 17-08-2009 21:29

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He has no reason to answer such an impudent question.
We are discussing BAD landlords in this thread and whether or not he is a landlord is irrelevant.

If he asked you how many of your ex girlfriends are still virgins I am sure you would be equally affronted

andrewb 17-08-2009 21:36

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Quite simply Margaret. Graham is often making comments about all landlords and initiate legislation that affects all landlords. He is all too willing to point out about other councillors owning property (especially when he starts ranting in full council) and yet doesn't scream and shout about himself.

The councillors should be working together to deal with bad landlords, not punish all landlords.

g jones 17-08-2009 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 737290)

Andrew you can have my interests anytime. They are public info. So why sh.t stir made up stories. I own one house. 69 hodder st. My sis and I are just settling probate on my grans. You can't leaveh family out of it can you?

Its never issues just personal politcs with u. I have read your thread and 9 times out of 10 you avoid the issue. Landlords. Your contribution as always is minus.

I have stated my policies clearly over and over and to me that's all that matters.

The top and bottom is you don't want to tell the public what you really think because people will get upset.

g jones 17-08-2009 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 737295)
Quite simply Margaret. Graham is often making comments about all landlords and initiate legislation that affects all landlords. He is all too willing to point out about other councillors owning property (especially when he starts ranting in full council) and yet doesn't scream and shout about himself.

The councillors should be working together to deal with bad landlords, not punish all landlords.

I worked for hours on many policies. I'd criticise Labour Councillors but I can't because they voted for the policies. I will defend conservatives if they supported the tough policies I put forward but they didn't. They voted for landlords interests. So they chose something different. That's how it is.

Every councillor had a chance to support my proposals and work together. The majority voted them down without even listening. I will continue the campaign.

accyman 17-08-2009 22:49

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i moved out of a house because the landlord kept renting next door to fellow alcholics, pedos etc and also let the house fall into such a state it looked horrendous

3 years later the windows are still boarded up and that 1 house alone makes the street look liek a warzone

perhaps if teh counil hadnt sold off all teh council houses they woudl be able to contain teh problem of bad tennants better by putting them al in one place and letting them destroy each other rather than comunities and leave teh better areas for tennants who know how to live decently

in other countries if people cant behave like human beings they get moved into adapted shipping containers an put tolive under motorway bridges until they can prove they can live decently and not be a pain to everyone else

lindsay ormerod 17-08-2009 22:50

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Nice one Graham, in the words of the legendary Marilyn Monroe "those who know me better, know me better" .

flashy 17-08-2009 22:51

Re: Landlords
 
thankyou for getting us back on thread Graham

flashy 17-08-2009 22:53

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 737312)
i moved out of a house because the landlord kept renting next door to fellow alcholics, pedos etc and also let the house fall into such a state it looked horrendous


you might wanna re think that bit fella :rolleyes:


you saying your an alcy ?

accyman 17-08-2009 22:57

Re: Landlords
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 737316)
you might wanna re think that bit fella :rolleyes:


you saying your an alcy ?


no the landlord was an alcoholic and rented to any fellow alcholic that needed a flat.

i cant afford to be an alcoholic


probably cant spell it either yet alone be one

not allowed to put p *** head

flashy 17-08-2009 22:58

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okkkk, now i get ya, just sounded a bit dodgy thats all


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