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Lilly 17-08-2009 20:27

Kerry Katona axed by Iceland
 
Kerry Katona: Iceland Axe Former Atomic Kitten From TV Advertising Campaign After Drug Allegations | UK News | Sky News__

It looks like the pictures in yesterday's paper of Kerry Katona snorting cocaine at home have been the last straw for Iceland bosses.

She has finally been axed from their advertising campaigns.

There have been stories about Kerry doing cocaine for a long time now but she has always denied it and Iceland have been good to her, now that there is actual photographic evidence I suppose Iceland could not defend her any more and had no choice but to end her contract.

It was her one remaining contract.

I agree with Iceland's decision but I just find her whole situation very sad especially for her children. :(

I can see her ending up like Paula Yates but I hope I'm wrong. :(

garinda 17-08-2009 20:33

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End of an era.

Good.

No more will we have to endure looking at her damp, fishy, prawn ring.

Lilly 17-08-2009 20:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737282)
End of an era.

Good.

No more will we have to endure looking at her damp, fishy, prawn ring.


Ha haaaaaa! :D

Part of me is glad to see the back of her too.

It has irritated me for a long time to see her on screen acting the perfect mum when she is far far from it but another part of me feels sad, not that she's been axed, just sad that she's sunk so low.

david1 17-08-2009 20:38

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No sympathy from here !! She has only herself to blame .

BERNADETTE 17-08-2009 20:41

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How the hell has she managed to keep her children for so long? It is a crying shame that they are seeing this sort of behaviour. The sooner her ex gets custody the better IMO the kids are being damaged by all this and it is just not fair on them.

Lilly 17-08-2009 20:48

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 737286)
How the hell has she managed to keep her children for so long? It is a crying shame that they are seeing this sort of behaviour. The sooner her ex gets custody the better IMO the kids are being damaged by all this and it is just not fair on them.

I don't know how she's managed to hold on to them for so long. :confused:

Bryan Mcfadden has expressed his anger before in the paper at how the children are living but he now lives in Australia with Delta Goodrem.

It's easy to criticise from thousands of miles away. He should step in and go for custody.

BERNADETTE 17-08-2009 20:52

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Damn sure even if he doesn't go for custody they should be taken off her. They could have got hold of that cocaine before now, it wasn't locked away. Or do they wait for a tragedy before they do anything?

West Ender 17-08-2009 22:50

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I feel very sorry for the girl in a way. She's a victim as much as a villain. No doubt she started snorting cocaine in much the same way I started smoking. You do it once because everyone else is doing it and it feels good, then again, then again and before you know it you have to have another fix because your hands are trembling and you have this ache in your gut and your brain is fixated on the next snort/cigarette. I was lucky, I managed to give up smoking, though it has, none the less, affected my health.

Of course she couldn't continue to represent Iceland and she's going to end up back on the grotty estate in Warrington that she came from. I hope to God this is a wake-up call for her but I doubt it.

accyman 17-08-2009 22:53

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lol iceland sack somone for putting crap into their body then sell tons upon tons of food laced with god knows what chemicals in it to millions of shoppers

irony or what lol

lindsay ormerod 17-08-2009 23:00

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No sympathy whatsoever from the Ormerod corner, in a recent newspaper article she talked about her "money woes" and how she would struggle to get by on £10000 a month after she had made all her insolvency payments. My heart bleeds..... yet another Z list celebrity bites the dust, jolly good, may she be followed very quickly by Jordan and Paris and Peter etc etc .

cashman 17-08-2009 23:40

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 737321)
My heart bleeds..... yet another Z list celebrity bites the dust, jolly good, may she be followed very quickly by Paris

hey what you saying about my missus?:D;)

garinda 18-08-2009 00:02

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10/1 she's the face of Farm Foods by Christmas.

After telling her moving story about how she lost weight, and got her life back on track.

accyman 18-08-2009 00:23

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737339)
10/1 she's the face of Farm Foods by Christmas.

After telling her moving story about how she lost weight, and got her life back on track.

no frills and cheap

shes perfect

jaysay 18-08-2009 09:14

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I'm afraid that's what happens when you play out your life on the pages of the tabloids

Less 18-08-2009 09:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737339)
10/1 she's the face of Farm Foods by Christmas.

After telling her moving story about how she lost weight, and got her life back on track.


Shouldn't that read,

After Selling her moving story about how she lost weight, and got her life back on track.

jaysay 18-08-2009 09:30

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Just a slight wonder but this Jordon and Peter saga is also giving me the pip at the moment don't know about any one else

Tealeaf 18-08-2009 09:33

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737382)
Just a slight wonder but this Jordon and Peter saga is also giving me the pip at the moment don't know about any one else

Who is jordon? Who is Peter? Who is Kerry Catona? Who gives a ****?

MargaretR 18-08-2009 10:00

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wrist slapping due for asterix use:p

accyman 18-08-2009 11:09

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737382)
Just a slight wonder but this Jordon and Peter saga is also giving me the pip at the moment don't know about any one else

they probably set both the wedding date and divirce date before they entered teh buisness of been together

that wasnt a relationship it was a mini soap oprera ochestrated for the highest bidder in teh tabloids and womens mags

Gayle 18-08-2009 11:24

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All we need now is for Peter and Kerry to be seen out and about together to complete the tabloid dream.

emamum 18-08-2009 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 737415)
All we need now is for Peter and Kerry to be seen out and about together to complete the tabloid dream.


or Jordan and Kerry to jazz it up a bit ;)

blazey 18-08-2009 11:36

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Ah shame on her for not being the 'perfect' mum. How dare she subject her children to... wait a minute, what is the issue about her children?

I didn't get the impression she ever puts her children at risk of harm. I think her relationship with whatshisface is probably more damaging to her and the kids. He clearly makes her feel low about herself and she has to face constant criticism from people all the time. I can't blame her for wanting to let off steam. And it's cocaine, it's one of the most popular drugs in the country used by ordinary people just getting on with their lives and needing an extra kick. It's used all over the world recreationally and medically, the only difference is that someone can make money out of photographing her doing it.

I think that probably everyone has come into contact with someone who has done drugs at some point or been very tempted, who is a respectable person who appears to be a great parent or a loving child who would make their parents proud etc.

You can't even binge eat to make yourself feel better if you are a celebrity and let's face it, it's far more noticeable than the risk of being photographed snorting coke, so they might as well elevate their lives through drugs for what it's worth.

Drugs aren't good, but I wouldn't say she's bad either. Certainly not a bad mother.

shillelagh 18-08-2009 11:43

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Who's looking after the kids when she's snorting coke? Who's looking after the kids when she's got the after effects from it?

BERNADETTE 18-08-2009 11:47

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Quote:

blazey Ah shame on her for not being the 'perfect' mum. How dare she subject her children to... wait a minute, what is the issue about her children?
The issue is the fact that any one of them could have got hold of that cocaine. Do you not see that as an issue? Kids as you well know are very likely to mimic their parents and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they have seen her snorting and could copy her. Leaving drugs where kids can get hold of them is dangerous.The childrens safety should be paramount!!!!!

emamum 18-08-2009 11:48

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 737421)
Who's looking after the kids when she's snorting coke? Who's looking after the kids when she's got the after effects from it?

probably the same person who looks after them all the time... the nanny!

blazey 18-08-2009 12:44

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I'm not entirely sure of Kerry Katona's family life structure, but if it is anything like any other celebrity then she'll probably have a handful of child minders always on hand.

Plus the kids could have easily been tucked up in bed asleep or she might have been miles away from them at the time.

And yes, children are impressionable, they see all sorts of stupid things on TV day in day out. My little brother was watching a cartoon the other day about sumo wrestlers who were being projected as cool super heroes. That could easily make a child think being fat was good if they are so naively impressionable.

The fact of the matter is that most children have quite a strong instinctive sense of good or bad. Chances are that if they are going to copy off their parents in the first place then they would have eventually gone that way regardless. Most people can distinguish between what is good and bad from a very young age, and to lace the argument with 'child safety' is just assuming facts and exaggerating.

BERNADETTE 18-08-2009 13:50

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There is a video somewhere on the web showing her leaving the children in one room and going into the room next door to snort a line of cocaine. So if as you say that is assuming or exaggerating the "child safety" then that is your opinion but IMO it is most certainly compromising the childrens well being and safety!!!!!

wadey 18-08-2009 14:05

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To be fair to Iceland they were the first national company to go organic but sales started to slide
The campaign for organic foods suffered a serious setback yesterday when the supermarket chain Iceland abandoned its six-month-old plans to sell only organic "own-brand" frozen produce, after an unexpected slump of 1.5 per cent in sales since June.

The decision by Iceland, a champion of environmentally conscious shopping on issues such as GM foods and energy-efficient freezers, is a personal embarrassment for its co-founder and executive chairman, Malcolm Walker. He is among Britain's most prominent and evangelical "green" businessmen, repeatedly feted by environmental groups.

He phased out unnecessary colourings in products such as ice-cream and peas, sold climate-friendly fridges endorsed by Greenpeace and banned GM ingredients from its own-brand products."
The Independent
Why on Earth they thought that idiot Katona should be the face of the company is a complete mystery (even if she has been to both Poles)

blazey 18-08-2009 14:15

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 737446)
There is a video somewhere on the web showing her leaving the children in one room and going into the room next door to snort a line of cocaine. So if as you say that is assuming or exaggerating the "child safety" then that is your opinion but IMO it is most certainly compromising the childrens well being and safety!!!!!

What is dangerous about leaving a room to use a substance though? Should we not use any dangerous substances in the household?

Children would be more likely to die from consuming bleach or other forms of legal medication than consuming a bit of cocaine left lying around.

I'm not saying it is ideal, but there are worst things that could happen to children in ANY ordinary household.

BERNADETTE 18-08-2009 14:27

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The danger arises from the fact that the cocaine was just left lying around, any one of the kids could have got hold of it!!! You are just being obtuse as per usual. In most homes bleach and suchlike are normally kept out of the reach of children, yes we know accidents happen. You can hardly put that in the same context as a line of cocaine left lying where a child can get hold of it.

mattylad 18-08-2009 15:21

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BUt was the cocaine left lying around?
I thought it all went up kerry's nose. :D

So she needs a new job now, I'll give her one ;)

blazey 18-08-2009 15:34

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 737461)
The danger arises from the fact that the cocaine was just left lying around, any one of the kids could have got hold of it!!! You are just being obtuse as per usual. In most homes bleach and suchlike are normally kept out of the reach of children, yes we know accidents happen. You can hardly put that in the same context as a line of cocaine left lying where a child can get hold of it.

But can you put it into the context of addictive painkillers or anti-depressants being left around?

Illegality isn't the issue here by your terms.

jaysay 18-08-2009 15:54

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Hello Bird Brain blazey's back

BERNADETTE 18-08-2009 16:06

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 737479)
But can you put it into the context of addictive painkillers or anti-depressants being left around?

Illegality isn't the issue here by your terms.

As I have already stated MOST responsible people put things out of the reach of children. If you watch the video this cocaine was just lying where the children could have got hold of it. Perhaps we should be thankful that didn't happen. I'm sure even you can see that there is a difference:rolleyes:

cashman 18-08-2009 16:11

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 737486)
As I have already stated MOST responsible people put things out of the reach of children. If you watch the video this cocaine was just lying where the children could have got hold of it. Perhaps we should be thankful that didn't happen. I'm sure even you can see that there is a difference:rolleyes:

yer asking summat there bernie, pity Kerry wasn't axed by some nutter.:rolleyes:

West Ender 18-08-2009 16:24

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Besides the question of whether Kerry's children could access her drugs, the issue is that she is their mother, their guardian and their role model. She may well have a nanny but, ultimately, it's her that has the responsibility for them and she is anything but responsible. Her lifstyle has been erratic and her whole personality is based on mind-altering substances. If she was still an unknown, living on the Orford estate, I think that video clip would have had Social Services in there like a shot.

shakermaker 18-08-2009 16:31

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Kerry Katona has been filmed taking A class drugs. She should be arrested and charged.
Kerry Katona (a woman filmed taking A class drugs) is a mother. Social services should take action for the welfare of her children.

Simple as. No excuses. Sort the situation out.

cmonstanley 18-08-2009 21:59

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 737494)
Kerry Katona has been filmed taking A class drugs. She should be arrested and charged.
Kerry Katona (a woman filmed taking A class drugs) is a mother. Social services should take action for the welfare of her children.

Simple as. No excuses. Sort the situation out.

agree with you a hundred% and should be made an example of the junkie scum...

garinda 19-08-2009 00:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 737461)
The danger arises from the fact that the cocaine was just left lying around, any one of the kids could have got hold of it!!! You are just being obtuse as per usual. In most homes bleach and suchlike are normally kept out of the reach of children, yes we know accidents happen. You can hardly put that in the same context as a line of cocaine left lying where a child can get hold of it.

Of course some dim wits don't see the danger of child rearing, and getting off your head on coke.

So what if they ingest an amount that could kill them? An adult can overdose and die, so what if a child does too, because their mum's away with the fairies, and can't help it?

So what if the illegal drug is 100% pure, or mixed with rat poison, or some other medium to make even more money for the pushers, and thus even more deadly, whatever the age of the user?

You can't watch 'em all the time.

Mums need a bit of 'me time', to get off their faces.

Anyone but a fool can see that.

garinda 19-08-2009 00:10

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 737479)
Illegality isn't the issue here by your terms.

Yes it is halfwit.

Prescription drugs are quality controlled.

Illegal street drugs aren't.

Even hardened, longtime users overdose because of the varying quality and strength of illegal drugs bought off dealers.

Come back and join the debate when your head isn't up your arse.

cashman 19-08-2009 00:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737623)
Yes it is halfwit.

Prescription drugs are quality controlled.

Street drugs aren't.

Even hardened, longtime users overdose because of the varying quality and strength of illegal drugs bought off dealers.

Come back and join the debate when your head isn't up your arse.

ya can't put sense where there is none.:rolleyes:

Mancie 19-08-2009 00:51

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No way to defend Kerry Catona.. but was Kate Moss not filmed taking cocaine? her popularity went sky high and she now earns millions... same old story.. rules for some mean nothing.. and the clever ones with money and slick agents get away with almost anything.

jaysay 19-08-2009 08:42

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 737639)
No way to defend Kerry Catona.. but was Kate Moss not filmed taking cocaine? her popularity went sky high and she now earns millions... same old story.. rules for some mean nothing.. and the clever ones with money and slick agents get away with almost anything.

Must Agree Mancie, Mandleson did when he was caught out in mortgage fraud, if it had been Joe public they'd have had their collar felt:rolleyes:

garinda 19-08-2009 11:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 737657)
Must Agree Mancie, Mandleson did when he was caught out in mortgage fraud, if it had been Joe public they'd have had their collar felt:rolleyes:

OMG!

How on earth can you turn a thread about some Z-list celebrity's drug problem into yet another political thread?

I don't know if you think by making constant put downs of those you politically oppose,that it'll somehow gather support for your party. For most people I suspect it's one big turn off, and will have the opposite effect.

For someone who claims to be not very political anymore, and has realised there are more important things in life, you are fairly relentless.

I'm glad you only had the letters page in the Observer in your politically blinkered prime, rather than Accy Web.

jaysay 19-08-2009 15:58

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737683)
OMG!

How on earth can you turn a thread about some Z-list celebrity's drug problem into yet another political thread?

I don't know if you think by making constant put downs of those you politically oppose,that it'll somehow gather support for your party. For most people I suspect it's one big turn off, and will have the opposite effect.

For someone who claims to be not very political anymore, and has realised there are more important things in life, you are fairly relentless.

I'm glad you only had the letters page in the Observer in your politically blinkered prime, rather than Accy Web.

No Rindi I just class him as another z list celebrity:rolleyes:

blazey 19-08-2009 17:31

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Plenty of people are known drug users by social services and don't get their kids taken away by them.

The reason being is that there simply isn't enough care homes or willing foster parents to rehome children with such ease, and it costs money to do so.

Even if she was investigated by social services she wouldn't have her kids taken from her. They'd have to be showing signs of neglect, and they clearly aren't as she has them in magazines on a weekly basis looking absolutely fine.

Do you intervene when you see parents hitting their kids in public? My guess is that the majority of you would just look in horror but do nothing. Because that is the way this society works. We live in a country where the law doesn't insist you help someone you see drowning or being kicked to death. What makes you think it is going to care about someone snorting a line of coke behind closed doors that is doing no harm to anyone?

The police don't want to arrest the individual recreational users, they want to arrest drug smugglers and dealers. And the police and social services certainly won't intervene in this situation based on one picture of her doing a line of cocaine. It's one of the most commonly used drugs in the country. Imagine how many children there would be in foster homes if they took them all away from their drug using parents?

And Garinda, I never said it was NEVER a question of illegality, obviously it is illegal, but that clearly isn't what is bothering people here.

garinda 19-08-2009 17:51

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 737763)
Even if she was investigated by social services she wouldn't have her kids taken from her. They'd have to be showing signs of neglect, and they clearly aren't as she has them in magazines on a weekly basis looking absolutely fine.

For God's sake promise us you'll never go into social work.

That's the sort of dopey observation that the woefully inadequate social workers made in the tragic case of Baby P, and many others.

Smear the poor little sod with Nutella, and hey ho, no visible bruises, or signs of physical neglect.

Looks alright, therefore everything must be hunky-dory.

Wrong.

Appearances can be very, very deceptive.

garinda 19-08-2009 18:00

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 737763)
And Garinda, I never said it was NEVER a question of illegality, obviously it is illegal, but that clearly isn't what is bothering people here.

Possession of cocaine is illegal.

Fact.

If you think it's acceptable for parents to bring into the home an illegal, non-quality tested substance, which means the parents will be off their rocker, and might not hear that a child is in danger, or even dipping their little fingers in those cute little wraps, while their parents are in a drug fuelled sleep, you're an even bigger fool than I thought you were.

garinda 19-08-2009 18:03

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I suppose you also think it's fine for toddlers to play doctors and nurses, with the syringes smack head parents leave all over the place, while they board the bus to another planet?

cmonstanley 19-08-2009 18:37

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the thing that is bothering me is by having letting people get away with is they are rearing the future drug junkie culture population and makin it grow if we took every kid that had junkie parents we could have nipped it in the bud,we were too soft and now heading towards total anarchy and who pays for all their treatment yes the honest hardworking people in this country.we should have a referendum to see if we want our taxes spent on this.i bet i know what the result would be..

Gayle 19-08-2009 20:59

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I doubt the children were at risk in this situation because clearly some 'friend' had set up the coke, set up the video and then told Kerry it was waiting for her in the bathroom.

She's an idiot for being a user in the first place but someone has made money over selling the tape.

She clearly needs help - and not the sort of help that her co-dependent husband seems to give her.

Lilly 19-08-2009 21:04

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 737831)
I doubt the children were at risk in this situation because clearly some 'friend' had set up the coke, set up the video and then told Kerry it was waiting for her in the bathroom.

She's an idiot for being a user in the first place but someone has made money over selling the tape.

She clearly needs help - and not the sort of help that her co-dependent husband seems to give her.

I wonder who it was who set her up and passed the footage on to the papers.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the husband.

Useless lump. :(

MargaretR 19-08-2009 21:07

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 737832)
I wonder who it was who set her up and passed the footage on to the papers.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the husband.

Useless lump. :(

I think I read somewhere that he is living abroad now.

Lilly 19-08-2009 21:10

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 737834)
I think I read somewhere that he is living abroad now.

LOL. Not that husband, Margaret. :)

Her first husband, Brian McFadden, is now living in Australia with his girlfriend.

I'm talking about her current husband, Mark Croft, a right waste of space. :(

MargaretR 19-08-2009 21:11

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Sorreeeeee - I don't read celebrity news:o

shakermaker 20-08-2009 00:52

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If I was Brian McWestlife I'd be kicking her door down and taking my kids away from all that.

blazey 20-08-2009 01:00

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 737837)
Sorreeeeee - I don't read celebrity news:o

You don't need to read it to see it splashed across the front page of newspapers :p I don't read it either.

Which means admittedly I'm assuming most of the information based on waht I've glanced at on the front pages of the newspapers.

Garinda, I'm not saying the illegality of cocaine isn't an issue. I'm saying that people seem more concerned about the welfare of her children rather than the illegality.

People commit much worse crimes all the time and don't have their children taken into care. In fact, the majority of the country is currently suffering financially due to crimes being committed by people too busy concerned about their own comfortable lives to consider the consequences of their actions.

The children wouldn't have been put at risk, because that woman isn't a bad mother. That is the end of the story really isn't it? She'll have had child minders looking after the kids.

The problem with this country is that the media can quite happily exploit these situations because people are more interested in gossip and juicy stories. We live in a twisted society that feeds off the misery of others, particularly those who are in a better position financially than us. I smiled when I saw the bankers of Lehman Bros crying outside their offices in London. It's nice to see people like that fail, when the majority of them will have never failed at anything in their lives. I got a kick out of that, admittedly. I'm no better. But in the same way that people are assuming the kids were at risk, I assumed that they all would have had their comfortable backgrounds and easy lives, when in reality there is probably a good number who didn't, and they'll have all worked really hard.

We just like people being in a worse position than ourselves, and so we enjoy that Kerry lost her job for being photographed doing a line of cocaine. But let's not pretend that we believe she's a bad person who has really done something bad to other people. That is just ludicrous. As ludicrous as the idea that someone got paid a nice wad of cash for that picture. Paid for ruining someone's career. How can we ignore that?

It's disgusting to ignore that.

shakermaker 20-08-2009 01:24

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Crikey Blazey. Does it come naturally to completely miss the essence of the issue and skip straight to the abstract and somewhat irrelevant interpretation of the entire situation? I'm not being sarcastic when I say it's actually admirable.
The article, issue and subsequent thread centres around this: A woman has been filmed taking A class drugs. There's no existing logic (legal, moral or otherwise) that dictates that the woman shouldn't be arrested and charged for committing the crime. Equally, there is no logic that can justify the recreational use of hard drugs, especially for parents.
We all know that the celebrity fascination culture is a completely unnecessary aspect of society but the parasitical nature of the resulting press does not excuse the issue in hand. Care in the fellow man and social judgment go hand-in-hand, to a culturally acceptable degree.

spignific 20-08-2009 16:02

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Kerry katona gave me a quick kiss at bell vue dog racing one night.

thats nowt to be proud of now thouigh :)

Mancie 20-08-2009 18:14

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Originally Posted by spignific (Post 737998)
Kerry katona gave me a quick kiss at bell vue dog racing one night.

thats nowt to be proud of now thouigh :)

what was her trap number and did she finish in the first two? :D

Margaret Pilkington 20-08-2009 18:51

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This woman is allegedly, Bi-polar, so will be on mind altering drugs for that condition.....how do we know what effects the cocaine has on her, and how much it interacts with her necessary medication??

I would say that she is a poor excuse for a parent, I would not want someone with her problems( a lot of which she has made for herself) to come within a mile of a child of mine......why do I think she is a poor excuse for a parent???? Well, on becoming a parent you subjugate all your own needs for those of your child....you do not wantonly snort a class A drug anywhere near your child...or for that matter allow your child to see you, or experience care from you while under the influence of that drug......OK, you may say that she has nannies, child-minders.....but if they are paid by you, then they take orders from you......and you are in no fit condition to determine what is right for the child.

And because a child looks well nourished does not mean that they are OK.....there is much child abuse that is not physical....it cannot be seen. But later on in life that child may go on to have problems because of the unseen, unrecognised mental/emotional cruelty.

And to Blazey....I would say come back and give your opinion when you have a child or children of your own......I think you perspective may be altered then.

jaysay 21-08-2009 09:30

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 738015)
This woman is allegedly, Bi-polar, so will be on mind altering drugs for that condition.....how do we know what effects the cocaine has on her, and how much it interacts with her necessary medication??

I would say that she is a poor excuse for a parent, I would not want someone with her problems( a lot of which she has made for herself) to come within a mile of a child of mine......why do I think she is a poor excuse for a parent???? Well, on becoming a parent you subjugate all your own needs for those of your child....you do not wantonly snort a class A drug anywhere near your child...or for that matter allow your child to see you, or experience care from you while under the influence of that drug......OK, you may say that she has nannies, child-minders.....but if they are paid by you, then they take orders from you......and you are in no fit condition to determine what is right for the child.

And because a child looks well nourished does not mean that they are OK.....there is much child abuse that is not physical....it cannot be seen. But later on in life that child may go on to have problems because of the unseen, unrecognised mental/emotional cruelty.

And to Blazey....I would say come back and give your opinion when you have a child or children of your own......I think you perspective may be altered then.

Its bad enough watching out for interaction with prescribed drugs Margaret, let alone with narcotics taken just for kicks. Although I grew up in the swinging sixties when uppers and downers were the "IN" thing together with a bit of pot, I was never tempted to try anything, not even once, beer and fags were enough for me;)

Margaret Pilkington 21-08-2009 11:36

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I have never smoked or taken illegal drugs.......I can't see the point.
You cannot escape from reality.......if you want to blur the edges of your life then so be it, but at somepoint you have to come down from the artificial 'High' and face whatever it is you are running away from.
If there are things in your life that you don't like, then there are two options.......learn to live with the problem or change it.

These recreational drugs are all addictive......and usually lead to a downward spiral in lifestyles.

A lot of the problems experienced by the Z list celebs are of their own making......the media creates a hype that they end up believing.

blazey 21-08-2009 17:38

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You don't need to be a mother to understand issues with children. The gap between me and my little brother is the same as the one between me and my mum. I was there when she gave birth to him, and I feel a massive responsibility to his growth and development when I am at home. It doesn't matter that he isn't mine, just like it makes no difference between adoptive parents and their children. Nobody wants to see a child harmed.

If you take the media to be fact then you are a mug. I hold reservation about everything I see in the newspaper, because I deal with fact. Fact is, you don't know where her children were at the time that picture was taken. In fact, you don't even know that the substance on that table is in fact cocaine. In fact, many people snort prescription drugs these days, because you can get a better hit that way from them. It's common. No law against it, it's just not following the instructions.

In fact, in 2003 a drug survey in the US found that almost twice the number of people abused prescription drugs than the number of people taking cocaine. And why is that not surprising? In the world, 40 million people were taking prozac in 2008. How many do you think are abusing it or selling it on for profit so other people can abuse it? It's easy enough to have anti-depressants dished out to you at the doctors.

Kerry Katona's business isn't any of mine, but I'll defend anyone who is having things assumed about them on such shoddy evidence. Front page of the Sun?

Nuff said.

garinda 21-08-2009 17:53

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 738177)
In fact, many people snort prescription drugs these days, because you can get a better hit that way from them. It's common. No law against it, it's just not following the instructions.

They might be prescription drugs, but they will have been obtained on the blackmarket, i.e. illegally.

No doctor prescribes drugs to be snorted to get high.

Any parent stupid enough to do that, just like snorting cocaine, and which effects your mind and body long after the initial hit has worn off, deserves to have their poor children taken off them.

Margaret Pilkington 21-08-2009 17:58

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Blazey, we will have to disagree on this one......you do have to be a mother to really understand what many of us are getting at......the fact that you just don't get it proves this point, whatever you may say to the contrary.

And I do not care one jot about what the media says.
You deal in facts, but you don't know either, where she was or where her children were when all these events were taking place, or what measures were in place to ensure their safety......you only have the media to get your information from.

And I do know that there are prescription drugs which are nasally inhaled, but they don't have to be put down in a 'line'...they come in hygienic inhalers.

And mentioning the misuse of prescription drugs is just fudging the issue and sidetracking attention way from the real issues.
The safety of the children, and the fact that she was filmed doing something illegal....both of which should have been acted on by the authorities.
These children do have a father.....they could quite easily be placed with him for their ongoing care and attention......they do not need to be fostered.

I do not read The Sun or any other red top tabloid.......and you never ever make assumptions about anything do you?????.......not even that I am a 'MUG'.

West Ender 21-08-2009 21:38

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Snorting prescription drugs. Hmmmm. I take 4 drugs every morning (used to take 6 but I gave up the HRT and the statins). Imagine the faff of crushing them (or emptying the capsules of 2 of them) scraping them into a line - does it have to be a credit card? - and rolling up a tenner then sticking said tenner up my nostril and sniffing the stuff up. I'd be very likely to sneeze anyway, so I'd lose most of it, but it takes 10 seconds to swallow them with a glass of juice. Oh, I do inhale drugs 3 times a day - budesonide/formoterol - that's by mouth in a special casing, not up my nose.

Incidentally, it's very common on the continent to administer prescription drugs by suppository as that way they work fastest of all. We don't hear much of that in the celebrity snorting circles, do we?

Now, Blazey, you deal in facts. Do you contend that the video was tampered with to alter the facts that it showed? We clearly saw this young woman snort a line of.....something ...... and I doubt it was paracetamol. I agree there's no evidence of where her children were at the time and I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt, that they were safely tucked up in bed. The whole point, however, is that their mother, allegedly (I'm playing safe), uses illegal substances and is the legal guardian of those children. A teacher would lose her job on this evidence as would anyone working with children in any other capacity, simply because of concerns for the children. Those concerns apply equally to a parent.

LYNX1 21-08-2009 22:20

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Whatever the substance was it was lying openly in the bathroom (I am assuming) for easy access, if that doesn't mean she has a problem I don't know what does.

cherokee 21-08-2009 23:34

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This lass has got away with far too much and kids have been taken from parents for less.

Its time Brian came and sued for custody and she was left to destroy herself if she so wishes before she drags those poor kids down with her.
She is careless and irresponsible

Just my two pennoth BTW .

Mancie 21-08-2009 23:53

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Saint Brian..Saint Peter...both ******* ..we are all experts on the way kids should be brought up.. but some people are to quick to call for kids to be taken in care..the kids of Kerry Katona are pretty well off when finance comes into it and will be treated as such.. but what about the kids whose parents are skint?if you took kids into care for every infraction from a mother there would masses of kids in care...and it costs money.. everyone huffs n puffs but woulld you be prepared to pay by more taxes to put kids into care homes ?

katex 22-08-2009 00:01

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Saint Brian..Saint Peter...both ******* ..we are all experts on the way kids should be brought up.. but some people are to quick to call for kids to be taken in care..the kids of Kerry Katona are pretty well off when finance comes into it and will be treated as such.. but what about the kids whose parents are skint?if you took kids into care for every infraction from a mother there would masses of kids in care...and it costs money.. everyone huffs n puffs but woulld you be prepared to pay by more taxes to put kids into care homes ?

Looks like they are moving in already Mancie ..

Showbiz - News - Social services 'to investigate Katona' - Digital Spy

Surprised they are not investigating overfeeding her children too at the same time. This is already happening !

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Restless 22-08-2009 00:03

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 737383)
Who is jordon? Who is Peter? Who is Kerry Catona? Who gives a ****?

lmao.. this is my new signature

garinda 22-08-2009 00:14

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 738262)
the kids of Kerry Katona are pretty well off when finance comes into it and will be treated as such.. but what about the kids whose parents are skint?

Money, or conversely the lack of money, has nothing to do with good parenting.

Children can have every material possession going, and still be living in emotional poverty.

Mancie 22-08-2009 00:15

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 738263)
Looks like they are moving in already Mancie ..

Showbiz - News - Social services 'to investigate Katona' - Digital Spy

Surprised they are not investigating overfeeding her children too at the same time. This is already happening !

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Tell you what Katex ..I've only ever seen what I would call "a bad mother" and that was at Euston station when a women asked for money with a young kid in a pram...taking drugs is not ideal but I don't belive it makes a "bad" mother or parent..there are vast examples of the Lords of drug abuse such as John Lennon, Bowie, on and on.. but these bods never had the pressure of having thier kids taken away.. so why is this case different?

garinda 22-08-2009 00:17

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 738264)
lmao.. this is my new signature

That's odd.

On the celebrities-r-us forum, Katie Price has 'Who is Restless?', as her signature.

katex 22-08-2009 00:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 738268)
Tell you what Katex ..I've only ever seen what I would call "a bad mother" and that was at Euston station when a women asked for money with a young kid in a pram...taking drugs is not ideal but I don't belive it makes a "bad" mother or parent..there are vast examples of the Lords of drug abuse such as John Lennon, Bowie, on and on.. but these bods never had the pressure of having thier kids taken away.. so why is this case different?

'Cause she is a woman, and not a fella 'Mancie. Plain and simple.

Can't comment on her yet, as not enough detail on her sad state. Just I feel she will have taken more care where she keeps her cocaine, unlike lots of parents who have a drinks tray proudly displayed 'at reach' of children. Lots of sad cases here, whereby children have overdosed on their parents alchohol.

garinda 22-08-2009 00:27

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 738268)
Tell you what Katex ..I've only ever seen what I would call "a bad mother" and that was at Euston station when a women asked for money with a young kid in a pram...taking drugs is not ideal but I don't belive it makes a "bad" mother or parent..there are vast examples of the Lords of drug abuse such as John Lennon, Bowie, on and on.. but these bods never had the pressure of having thier kids taken away.. so why is this case different?

I suppose most of the kerb crawlers driving round King's Cross, are really looking for a nanny, because smack heads make such trustworthy and reliable childminders.

:rolleyes:

garinda 22-08-2009 00:30

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 738271)
'Cause she is a woman, and not a fella 'Mancie. Plain and simple.

Judy Garland.

Sadly doped up to the eyeballs from childhood, and sadly a terrible parent.

Mancie 22-08-2009 00:37

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I ain't got much time for her or any other so called "Celeb" but seems to me she is getting a kicking .

Mancie 22-08-2009 00:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 738274)
Judy Garland.

Sadly doped up to the eyeballs from childhood, and sadly a terrible parent.

But you made a hat for lisa.. with a "Z" :eek:

Tealeaf 22-08-2009 00:48

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What is this thread supposed to be about, other than a platform for the resident idiots?

Mancie 22-08-2009 00:52

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4,742 posts and you are not a resident idiot?

spignific 22-08-2009 01:11

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theory about that.someone might not be a resident idiot,they might just be by polar and taking drugs.. its simples :)

Restless 22-08-2009 07:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 738270)
That's odd.

On the celebrities-r-us forum, Katie Price has 'Who is Restless?', as her signature.

lol

People use quotes from other users on this other forum i am on all the time...when the post as made them giggle or whatever

MargaretR 22-08-2009 07:56

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I don't want to thread wander....but avatars and signatures aren't displaying for me....I have been messing about with cookies...could that be why?

Restless 22-08-2009 07:58

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 738301)
I don't want to thread wander....but avatars and signatures aren't displaying for me....I have been messing about with cookies...could that be why?

is there settings in control panel on the site to turn them off? deleting cookies wont cause it... that i know of

MargaretR 22-08-2009 08:08

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 738302)
is there settings in control panel on the site to turn them off? deleting cookies wont cause it... that i know of

Found it ...sorted thanks:)

jaysay 22-08-2009 08:53

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I think after 87 post what is being forgotten is that the use and possession of cocaine is a criminal offence, and for a person who is studying for a career in law to defend it, is mind blowing, maybe stacking shelves at Tesco my be a better career move

Less 22-08-2009 09:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 738308)
I think after 87 post what is being forgotten is that the use and possession of cocaine is a criminal offence, and for a person who is studying for a career in law to defend it, is mind blowing, maybe stacking shelves at Tesco my be a better career move

Just be careful who you insult I know some very intelligent people that stack shelves, oops sorry I see you mentioned Tesco, I was thinking of ASDA.
Tescohttp://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s12454.gifASDA


accyman 22-08-2009 10:06

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lets face it even without the drugs issue you cant blame iceland for dumping her..

the dumpy bitch was hardly the image they would want sending out advertising what somone will look like if they shopped at iceland as much as what they claimed she did in teh adverts

you never saw an inch of unoccupied table space when she had preppared food for her supposed 4 guests in teh adverts lol

not sayng their food is fattening but i ate one of tehir chicken burgers once and put 2 stone on :-(

garinda 22-08-2009 10:21

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 738321)
lets face it even without the drugs issue you cant blame iceland for dumping her..

the dumpy bitch was hardly the image they would want sending out advertising what somone will look like if they shopped at iceland as much as what they claimed she did in teh adverts

you never saw an inch of unoccupied table space when she had preppared food for her supposed 4 guests in teh adverts lol

not sayng their food is fattening but i ate one of tehir chicken burgers once and put 2 stone on :-(

She'll probably order a takeaway to be delivered this Christmas, when Coleen Nolan pops round.

Although Ms. Katona might be disappointed that the free coke that was advertised on the flyer, turns out to be something to drink.

:D

accyman 22-08-2009 10:39

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 738329)
She'll probably order a takeaway to be delivered this Christmas, when Coleen Nolan pops round.

Although Ms. Katona might be disappointed that the free coke that was advertised on the flyer, turns out to be something to drink.

:D


i dunno because coke a cola got its name from actually having coke as one of its ingrediants

i bet she wishes it was still the same although snorting fizzy bubbles would tingle a bit i think lol

Wynonie Harris 22-08-2009 13:20

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She ought to go to Peru and try coca leaf tea (completely legal over there).

One cuppa and you're mellow. Sure beats PG Tips! :cool:

blazey 22-08-2009 14:47

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 738332)
i dunno because coke a cola got its name from actually having coke as one of its ingrediants

i bet she wishes it was still the same although snorting fizzy bubbles would tingle a bit i think lol


Coca-Cola still use flavourings from the coca plant in their product. A company called The Stepan Company in the US are allowed to import the coca plant legally and they sell a non-narcotic part of the plant to Coca-Cola.

My dissertation is about Coca-Cola and all my friends associate me with the drink now! It's a bit silly but it is normally mentioned by me several times a day. Coke fiend right here apparently!

jaysay 22-08-2009 14:50

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 738365)
Coca-Cola still use flavourings from the coca plant in their product. A company called The Stepan Company in the US are allowed to import the coca plant legally and they sell a non-narcotic part of the plant to Coca-Cola.

My dissertation is about Coca-Cola and all my friends associate me with the drink now! It's a bit silly but it is normally mentioned by me several times a day. Coke fiend right here apparently!

That explains a lot blazey:D:rolleyes:

blazey 22-08-2009 14:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 738366)
That explains a lot blazey:D:rolleyes:

What does?

flashy 22-08-2009 14:54

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 737419)
Ah shame on her for not being the 'perfect' mum. How dare she subject her children to... wait a minute, what is the issue about her children?

I didn't get the impression she ever puts her children at risk of harm. I think her relationship with whatshisface is probably more damaging to her and the kids. He clearly makes her feel low about herself and she has to face constant criticism from people all the time. I can't blame her for wanting to let off steam. And it's cocaine, it's one of the most popular drugs in the country used by ordinary people just getting on with their lives and needing an extra kick. It's used all over the world recreationally and medically, the only difference is that someone can make money out of photographing her doing it.

I think that probably everyone has come into contact with someone who has done drugs at some point or been very tempted, who is a respectable person who appears to be a great parent or a loving child who would make their parents proud etc.

You can't even binge eat to make yourself feel better if you are a celebrity and let's face it, it's far more noticeable than the risk of being photographed snorting coke, so they might as well elevate their lives through drugs for what it's worth.

Drugs aren't good, but I wouldn't say she's bad either. Certainly not a bad mother.


agree with you 100% on every word you said there

Wynonie Harris 22-08-2009 22:35

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 737383)
Who is jordon? Who is Peter? Who is Kerry Catona? Who gives a ****?

Sums it all up perfectly. :rolleyes:

Mancie 23-08-2009 06:14

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 738499)
Sums it all up perfectly. :rolleyes:

yep ...7 pages so far and you all joined in :D

Margaret Pilkington 23-08-2009 08:46

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You and Tealeaf included.
So what is your point?


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