Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

Depends who's paying for the check.

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

It's just another way to tax, and to instill the thought 'trust no-one'.
The more fear that can be implanted in a society, the more restriction of freedom that society will accept

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

My understanding is, that if you get no money...are an unpaid volunteer, then there will be no charge for going on the database, but I think that you will still have to pay for the CRB check(or the organisation that is using your services will have to pay).

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

my thoughts are many people will just stop helping out, end result, less fer kids,its as simple as that.:rolleyes:

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

It will be the organisation that pays.... as quite a few already do

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

And this means that the organisation will be £100 per helper out of pocket......which in turn mens that there will be £100 less to spend on activities for the children.

While I applaud trying to safeguard children, I think we are in the position of making children and parents believe that everyone has evil intent towards our children. I also think it prevents children from developing their own inner sense of who is a danger to them......and this will mean that they may still be vulnerable as adults because they haven't been able to develop strategies for themselves.

Parents are already paranoid about letting children play out, walk to school......indulge in the healthy(both bodily and mentally healthy) pusuits that we were allowed to pursue as children.

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

also many doing favours don't want hassle n red tape so will say sod it. some may not like the idea, but i'm sure will prove fact.

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I agree with the crb clearances .. i had to be crb cleared when i was volunteering at the school, for the credit union because the collection was in the school and also at work because kids were coming into the sports centre for parties and for sports courses. You also have to be cleared if you are the carer in the taxi taking kids to schools in the morning or picking them up from school.

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I know what you are saying Jen, but CRB is flawed......it won't safeguard children from the people who have not yet been caught.
We have to educate children in safe practice, but that is a fine line because we must not allow them to believe that all people are a danger to them.

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

Im not a parent .. but i know that i would be happier if the person who is teaching my child the trampoline or teaching them football skills is crb cleared and the receptionist who will be in contact with my child and keeping an eye on them till i returned to pick them up is crb cleared.

The problem with a crb clearance is its valid for ever .. there is not an end date on it but at work we say a crb clearance is valid for 3 years and then they must have a new one and because we have coaches provided by the sports centre the trust does do the crb clearances but we also have coaches provided by clubs that hire the hall and so they all have to have crb clearances as well and thats when the 3 year rule kicks in.

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The thing that makes things like this flawed in my mind is the fact that paedophilles are living and being protected in our communities. Where is the protection for our children/grandchildren then? This is just a money making racket when put side by side with that happening, it was only earlier this year when my daughter found out the man next door to her had a conviction for sexual offences against kids. What about her childrens safety from this pervert? They had none!!!! By the way he is back inside now.

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I accept that a CRB check is the norm for people who are teaching children, or dealing with them in a formal setting, but expecting parents who give a lift to a child or children on an irregular basis is ridiculous, who is going to police this?

A CRB check only means that the person who has been checked has not been caught doing anything that they shouldn't....it doesn't mean that they have not done anything bad.

We are breeding a society that is dependent on governmental intrusion.......bringing into force regulations that are almost impossible to police and enforce.
Yes, of course the Scouts, the Brownies and other organisations will have to follow these regulations, but that doesn't mean that we are safeguarding our children.

Parents who help one another out by giving children a lift home will be likely not to do this anymore......who would want to risk a hefty fine(if policing were possible, that is)...so what happens? Maybe the child will be left to find his/her own way home.....is that a safer option?

OK, in an ideal world, the parents would always be there to pick up the child, but we know that there are times when this isn't practical/possible...so do you ask friends to pick up your child and risk a fine for not being on this database and CRB checked?

This database is going to be a governmental moneyspinner.

Re: Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!!
 

it wasnt that long ago they were considering making people sign consent forms before screwing them to avoid rape :rolleyes:



crb checks should be carried out on any adult in a place where they are left in charge of children or vulnerable people outside the home and other domestic arrangements

i suppose as long as you avoid sending your kids to the scouts and teh catholic church you severely reduce teh chance of your child encountering a pedophile but theres no harm in tightening up other areas as well

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This mass screening of innocent persons would not be neccessary if the names and addresses of persons on the sex offenders register was allowed to be made public.

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Informal arrangements between parents will not be covered, but anyone taking part in activities involving "frequent" or "intensive" contact with children or vulnerable adults three times in a month, every month, or once overnight, must register, it has emerged.

All 300,000 school governors, as well as every doctor, nurse, teacher, dentist and prison officer will also have to sign up.

It is thought that 11.3 million people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland - close to one in four of all adults - may register with the Home Office's Independent Safeguarding Authority [ISA].

Thats taken from the bbc website .. so will you pick up little tommy from the footie type pick ups wont be covered .. as long as its not on a regular basis ...

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