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jaysay 07-12-2009 09:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 768021)
Yes your right. Opposition positions do not count. I think it is more a conflict of interest as much as too many fingers.

Jaysay - Unitaries. Labour at LCC did oppose and also said a County wide unitary was the best unitary.

Peter and the Cons saw us merge with Ribble Valley. It failed because everyone saw it exclusively from their own perspective.

My view then and now is more devolution. 85% of services come from Preston. It would mean mergers and Hyndburn giving up 15% to a bigger authority in order that Police, Fire, Education and Social Services were big enough to cope. An East Lancs or Pennine Lancs with Town Councils would be an ideal balance in my view.



Dividing Hyndburn up into the various towns. Under this model town councils would be more meaningful and people would have more power locally.


I have to say I agree with your view on this Graham, it must be better if there was more power locally, rather than County Hall

Bernard Dawson 07-12-2009 09:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 768095)
I have to say I agree with your view on this Graham, it must be better if there was more power locally, rather than County Hall
That's twice I've caught you agreeing with Graham. If this carries on we will be thinking we've got an extra vote up Ossy.

turkishdelight 07-12-2009 09:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 768092)
Sir Tom McKillop - Chair of RBS took home £471,000 in 2009
Sir Peter Middleton - Chair of Barclays was paid a whopping £1.76m

I'm not saying it's right and I'm certainly not going to argue that £80k isn't a lot of money, but let's put it in perspective. We're paying some of these Chairmen a huge amount of money for running banks - isn't it right that we should make it attractive to be an MP and for running the country?

So, my quibble isn't with the amount that MPs, County Councillors or Councillors take home, I think they earn and deserve every penny - my only concern would be that - long term- they would be spreading themselves a bit thinly by trying to do all three. However, I think that - short term - it's probably a good idea to keep hold of the positions that they already have so that it keeps them 'in the loop' when it comes to making decisions at all levels.
Regarding putting this into perspective take a look at all the hard work,unsocial hours, nurses and doctors put into their profession touching no where near that salary, just one example.I believe they equally deserve every penny. In addition yes i believe your correct and agree with them holding on until elected to keep in the loop however once elected they should withdraw from all other positions held and give other individuals a chance.

turkishdelight 07-12-2009 09:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 768092)
Sir Tom McKillop - Chair of RBS took home £471,000 in 2009
Sir Peter Middleton - Chair of Barclays was paid a whopping £1.76m

I'm not saying it's right and I'm certainly not going to argue that £80k isn't a lot of money, but let's put it in perspective. We're paying some of these Chairmen a huge amount of money for running banks - isn't it right that we should make it attractive to be an MP and for running the country?

So, my quibble isn't with the amount that MPs, County Councillors or Councillors take home, I think they earn and deserve every penny - my only concern would be that - long term- they would be spreading themselves a bit thinly by trying to do all three. However, I think that - short term - it's probably a good idea to keep hold of the positions that they already have so that it keeps them 'in the loop' when it comes to making decisions at all levels.
Not sure at all about making it more attractive to be an MP for running the country, in my opinion a would question the good job they have done perhaps a change of government then i may agree with that statement.

jaysay 07-12-2009 10:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 768102)
That's twice I've caught you agreeing with Graham. If this carries on we will be thinking we've got an extra vote up Ossy.
In your dreams Bernard:D no but seriously just because we belong to different parties with different outlooks on things doesn't mean that you can't agree on some issues. I happened to agree with Graham on the Unitary Authorities issue, to me it make sense

Bernard Dawson 07-12-2009 10:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 768115)
In your dreams Bernard:D no but seriously just because we belong to different parties with different outlooks on things doesn't mean that you can't agree on some issues. I happened to agree with Graham on the Unitary Authorities issue, to me it make sense
That's right, like you I'm big supporter of unitary authorities. We as a Council should have bit the bullet on unitary authorities a few years ago, when we had the chance.

andrewb 07-12-2009 10:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 768092)
Sir Tom McKillop - Chair of RBS took home £471,000 in 2009
Sir Peter Middleton - Chair of Barclays was paid a whopping £1.76m

I'm not saying it's right and I'm certainly not going to argue that £80k isn't a lot of money, but let's put it in perspective. We're paying some of these Chairmen a huge amount of money for running banks - isn't it right that we should make it attractive to be an MP and for running the country?

So, my quibble isn't with the amount that MPs, County Councillors or Councillors take home, I think they earn and deserve every penny - my only concern would be that - long term- they would be spreading themselves a bit thinly by trying to do all three. However, I think that - short term - it's probably a good idea to keep hold of the positions that they already have so that it keeps them 'in the loop' when it comes to making decisions at all levels.
I can see your argument. I don't think you can compare the two however. If the chairman of a private bank (yes I know RBS is currently nationalised) was paid a lower sum of money, the talent would almost certainly move elsewhere. I don't think this is the case for Members of Parliament. The £65,000 salary is already in the top percentage of incomes. There is no shortage of people applying to selections, even in so called 'safe seats'.

My problem in this case though is not the money, it is the ability of an individual to do three jobs. Graham has already stated that he would not take an allowance from district and county council. I disagree with him - if he is doing a job he should take the appropriate salary for it. Given however that an MP would need to be in London during weekdays, I find it hard to believe that an MP would be able to carry out the jobs of district and county councillor and that of an MP simultaneously.

A good constituency MP should be in communication with council, councillors and the electorate on a frequent basis anyway, without needing to occupy two additional elected offices. It would be interesting to see what Greg Pope thought on the issue.

Bernard Dawson 07-12-2009 10:50
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Some talent in the banking sector in this country Andrew. They were largely responsible for the banking slump, didn't see it coming. And then didn't know how to deal with the problem once it was on us. Some talent.

Gayle 07-12-2009 11:24
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I'm not arguing against you Andrew, to be honest, I think we appear to agree.

I think it's all a matter of timing as to when they stood down and if they caused unnecessary by elections.


For instance, if Graham or whoever represents the Conservatives won, there would be no need to stand down from council or County council immediately - he could perhaps tie it in with the local elections the following year, thereby not incurring any additional cost.

Whilst I agree there is a considerable amount of time that MPs need to be in London, equally they need to be in the constituency as well, so I'm sure that with a good PA they could be at the relevant meetings when needed.

andrewb 07-12-2009 11:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 768141)
I'm not arguing against you Andrew, to be honest, I think we appear to agree.

I think it's all a matter of timing as to when they stood down and if they caused unnecessary by elections.


For instance, if Graham or whoever represents the Conservatives won, there would be no need to stand down from council or County council immediately - he could perhaps tie it in with the local elections the following year, thereby not incurring any additional cost.

Whilst I agree there is a considerable amount of time that MPs need to be in London, equally they need to be in the constituency as well, so I'm sure that with a good PA they could be at the relevant meetings when needed.
I'm more sympathetic to somebody standing down a year later to prevent by-elections, but I don't think they should serve a full term. I say I'm only sympathetic because if both candidates refuse to step down as councillors prior to the general election, then I'm not sure if it's best for the successful one to stay on a year as a second rate councillor, or to cause a by-election. I honestly cannot see how even with the best PA in the world it would be financially and time possible to run the three jobs. The House sits in the day but often sits late at night, with late night voting, so vital council meetings will be missed. There is simply no need to take additional jobs over a long period for the sake of 'being in the loop' which being the Member of Parliament for Hyndburn should already entail.

jaysay 07-12-2009 15:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 768141)
I'm not arguing against you Andrew, to be honest, I think we appear to agree.

I think it's all a matter of timing as to when they stood down and if they caused unnecessary by elections.


For instance, if Graham or whoever represents the Conservatives won, there would be no need to stand down from council or County council immediately - he could perhaps tie it in with the local elections the following year, thereby not incurring any additional cost.

Whilst I agree there is a considerable amount of time that MPs need to be in London, equally they need to be in the constituency as well, so I'm sure that with a good PA they could be at the relevant meetings when needed.
You think Gayle:rolleyes: wonder if Greg might like to give his thoughts on this, I know when Ken Hargreaves was MP there wouldn't have been much chance of combining the two

g jones 07-12-2009 15:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768035)
I thought that was the idea behind the Accrington and Districts with the start in Great Harwood.
That proposition was for three tiers of Councils. I am against bureaucracy. I have to pinch myself to even say the words Town Councils and 'Pennine Lancashire Authority because that's still 2 tiered government. The simplest I accept this compromise is along the lines of this for example: That Town Council's may choose the way/order/numeracy of grass cutting in their area but there will only be one grass cutting manager within the Unitary Council. And when you are talking Chief Execs salaries there are some savings to be made.

Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 768088)
Huge salary. Expenses on top? Do you believe that one could run all three positions effectively? Correct me if i am wrong it appears to me that it is taking two vacancies that other individuals could sit on. In this economic crisis meaning employment for others, whichever political party they stand for.I consider an individual should not hold all three positions.
Somewhere nearer the beginning I said I thought it wrong for an MP who was an outgoing Councillor to claim both. In my case I would not claim a penny (allowances or expenses) past polling day. There are a lot of Councillors standing at the general. Wonder how many resign but collect up until to the day they leave office?

I think Andrew B is right, collectively the basic is £80k for the three. If you have maximum responsibilities it could be £64k+£25k+£30k.

Eric 07-12-2009 19:36
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Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that the party system has had its day, and that it is time to rethink how we "deliver" democracy? Just a thought after reading these political threads .... not worth a thread of its own.

Gordie 07-12-2009 23:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 768289)
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that the party system has had its day, and that it is time to rethink how we "deliver" democracy? Just a thought after reading these political threads .... not worth a thread of its own.
No,I do not think it has crossed anyone's mind that the party system has had it's day.Take a break go and shoot a few possums. :D

jaysay 08-12-2009 09:01
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Erics very good at pig hunting so watch out Gordie:D

Neil 08-12-2009 11:07
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 768230)
The simplest I accept this compromise is along the lines of this for example: That Town Council's may choose the way/order/numeracy of grass cutting in their area but there will only be one grass cutting manager within the Unitary Council. And when you are talking Chief Execs salaries there are some savings to be made.
I like it nice and simple and would guess you could get 6 or 7 grass cutters for the price of a chief exec, maybe even more.

jaysay 08-12-2009 11:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768392)
I like it nice and simple and would guess you could get 6 or 7 grass cutters for the price of a chief exec, maybe even more.
Hell Neil how much does a Nanny Goat cost these days:D

Neil 08-12-2009 11:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 768394)
Hell Neil how much does a Nanny Goat cost these days:D
The DEFRA regulations make it too hard to move them around :D

Ours are allowed anywhere in the Park and can be seen walking on the lead some days. They can not leave the park boundry - he does like walking up the wall on Fielding Lane though :D

cashman 08-12-2009 11:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768398)
The DEFRA regulations make it too hard to move them around :D

Ours are allowed anywhere in the Park and can be seen walking on the lead some days. They can not leave the park boundry - he does like walking up the wall on Fielding Lane though :D
Hope he was well protected the other week neil?:eek:

MargaretR 08-12-2009 14:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768398)
The DEFRA regulations make it too hard to move them around :D

Ours are allowed anywhere in the Park and can be seen walking on the lead some days. They can not leave the park boundry - he does like walking up the wall on Fielding Lane though :D
I did not realise that goats needed 'walkies'.
I knew a couple who kept a few (for milk) and their goats never got that luxury, although to be fair, the compound was reasonably large.

Neil 08-12-2009 14:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768413)
I did not realise that goats needed 'walkies'.
I knew a couple who kept a few (for milk) and their goats never got that luxury, although to be fair, the compound was reasonably large.
They don't need it but it is a little bit different for the kids to see.

You can try and milk ours if you like but you might need a slightly different hand action :eek::rolleyes::D

MargaretR 08-12-2009 14:34
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That is another natural resource (along with spring water) that Rhyddings Park has not exploited.
Are the Health & Safety Regs preventing this potential money spinner from being used?

Neil 08-12-2009 16:08
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768416)
Are the Health & Safety Regs preventing this potential money spinner from being used?
No Health and Safety regs prevent it but common decency does :rolleyes::D

MargaretR 08-12-2009 16:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768432)
No Health and Safety regs prevent it but common decency does :rolleyes::D
I thought that the park was desperate for funds:confused:

Neil 08-12-2009 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768436)
I thought that the park was desperate for funds:confused:
Not that desperate.

I don't think you would even get a mouthful never mind a milk bottle full

shillelagh 08-12-2009 16:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768416)
That is another natural resource (along with spring water) that Rhyddings Park has not exploited.
Are the Health & Safety Regs preventing this potential money spinner from being used?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 768432)
No Health and Safety regs prevent it but common decency does :rolleyes::D
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768436)
I thought that the park was desperate for funds:confused:

Name for it neil if you get any that is ...:D

Ossie Billy Gruff Milk :D

Think you'd have everyone interested with that .. :D:D:D

Neil 08-12-2009 16:48
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Shall I sign you up as our first customer?
You have to collect it yourself, no deliveries ;)

shillelagh 08-12-2009 16:48
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No thanks ... prefer my full fat cows milk ...

MargaretR 08-12-2009 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 768445)
No thanks ... prefer my full fat cows milk ...
...and I use rice milk mostly

Royboy39 08-12-2009 17:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 768457)
...and I use rice milk mostly
At least that's organic.......fertilised with water buffalo crap.:)

LYNX1 10-12-2009 07:07
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 768458)
At least that's organic.......fertilised with water buffalo crap.:)
eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :eek:

claytonender 11-01-2010 09:02
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Bernard Dawson 11-01-2010 09:15
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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 777459)
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That's interesting. I never knew that!

jaysay 11-01-2010 09:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 777465)
That's interesting. I never knew that!
I find that most educating too Bernard:D

claytonender 11-01-2010 10:00
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Link to Graham Jones website


http://hhgrahamjones.blogspot.com

andrewb 11-01-2010 10:24
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Interesting Claytonender. There is a blogpost on there that references another blog, ConservativeHome, discussing the Hyndburn Conservative selection. Graham's post has some select comments from the other site in order to get a bit of rumouring going. One in particular caught my eye as it was authored under the name 'Peter B' which Graham neglected to mention.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Peter B'
I was discussing this seat 3 days ago with a close contact in the regional press - apparently it is believed to be all down to local politics within the association and nothing to do with CCHQ. The press can't understand it. Nigel is right to flag this up.
Exactly three days prior to this Graham posted on Accringtonweb:
Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones
A journalist contacted me today, would I comment on the Tories not selecting their candidate. Apparently Tory HQ had not replied to the HCA correspondence and they were waiting? Why would HQ not reply to Hyndburn Tories?

garinda 11-01-2010 10:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 777501)
Interesting Claytonender. There is a blogpost on there that references another blog, ConservativeHome, discussing the Hyndburn Conservative selection. Graham's post has some select comments from the other site in order to get a bit of rumouring going. One in particular caught my eye as it was authored under the name 'Peter B' which Graham neglected to mention.



Exactly three days prior to this Graham posted on Accringtonweb:
Use of innuendo and rumour to spin some political advantage?

Surely not!

It's almost the same as in this thread, except the party's different. Though I expect the aims are the same.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ife-51117.html

g jones 11-01-2010 21:28
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I saw the Peter B comment. I like many feel the Borough I being let down by local Conservatives. The parliamentry fiasco is indicative of the same people running our Borough.

andrewb 11-01-2010 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 777641)
I saw the Peter B comment. I like many feel the Borough I being let down by local Conservatives. The parliamentry fiasco is indicative of the same people running our Borough.
You don't ever post under different names then Graham?

cashman 11-01-2010 21:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 777641)
I saw the Peter B comment. I like many feel the Borough I being let down by local Conservatives. The parliamentry fiasco is indicative of the same people running our Borough.
I feel let down by all political parties, who don't even raise n eyelid in matters that concern most of the british public.:rolleyes:

g jones 11-01-2010 21:34
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I saw the Peter B comment. I like many feel the Borough I being let down by local Conservatives. The parliamentry fiasco is indicative of the same people running our Borough.

I did post the blog and the press did print a story. I was contacted but not quoted.

Nigel Evans knows I have been canvassing and was critical. So it's not just Labour.

The public in Hyndburn deserve a Tory candidate at the earliest.

andrewb 11-01-2010 21:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 777647)
I saw the Peter B comment. I like many feel the Borough I being let down by local Conservatives. The parliamentry fiasco is indicative of the same people running our Borough.

I did post the blog and the press did print a story. I was contacted but not quoted.

Nigel Evans knows I have been canvassing and was critical. So it's not just Labour.

The public in Hyndburn deserve a Tory candidate at the earliest.
Didn't answer the question Graham. I posted the 'Peter B' comment because it sounded remarkably like yourself. Do you ever post under different names?

turkishdelight 11-01-2010 21:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 777646)
I feel let down by all political parties, who don't even raise n eyelid in matters that concern most of the british public.:rolleyes:
Me too.

turkishdelight 11-01-2010 21:48
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And Gordon Brown believes the recession is over and that is his platform of election. lol

andrewb 16-01-2010 09:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 777650)
Didn't answer the question Graham. I posted the 'Peter B' comment because it sounded remarkably like yourself. Do you ever post under different names?
Hmmm? :confused:

Taggy 16-01-2010 09:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 777646)
I feel let down by all political parties, who don't even raise n eyelid in matters that concern most of the british public.:rolleyes:

Think most of us would agree 100% with that Cashy!!


Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 16-01-2010 09:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 778774)
Hmmm? :confused:
Perhaps he's out working for the people in his council ward, or indeed out canvassing for the forthcoming General Election, and hasn't the time to troll through here, looking to see if you'd petulantly demanded the answer to yet another question.

It might save you time if you messaged him directly, if you're desperate.

jaysay 16-01-2010 13:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778781)
Perhaps he's out working for the people in his council ward, or indeed out canvassing for the forthcoming General Election, and hasn't the time to troll through here, looking to see if you'd petulantly demanded the answer to yet another question.

It might save you time if you messaged him directly, if you're desperate.
Nobodies that desperate;)

garinda 16-01-2010 16:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 778840)
Nobodies that desperate;)
Oh well I tried to be helpful.

If you're unwilling to pm the person whom answers are apparently sought from, you can continue pm'ing each other, and hopefully send them to me by mistake...again.

How I'd love to recieve another 'Doo-doo' message, addressed to andrewb, but sent to myself in error.

You've wiped it from your memory?

It was the one in which you said you'd warned andrewb about not using the Freedom of Information Act to look into councillor's expenses, because Peter Britcliffe would end up in the 'Doo-doo'.

Any more interesting messages gratefully recieved c/o garinda's messages at Accy Web.

:)

g jones 17-01-2010 17:50
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AndrewB

I said this from the start. What I have to say is said in my name only. Graham Jones (or abbreviation of!)

andrewb 17-01-2010 21:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones (Post 779242)
AndrewB

I said this from the start. What I have to say is said in my name only. Graham Jones (or abbreviation of!)
Oh. Only, 'Peter B' on ConservativeHome sounded remarkably like you, and his calls from the press seemed to happen on the same day, and say similar sorts of things. Must just be a coincidence.

Quote:
Originally Posted by g jones on Accringtonweb
Tongue in cheek - there's been some movement in the market

2/1 to 6/4 Peter Clarke (dep leader from gt harwood)
3/1 to 5/2 Any outside candidate
7/2 any Female outside candidate
5/1 out to 20/1 Peter Britcliffe
11/2 to 4/1 Male Outside Candidate
8/1 out to 12/1 Marlene Haworth
8/1 out to 12/1 A Euro MPs son
10/1 into 8/1 Asian candidate from Blackburn
10/1 out to 25/1 Janet Storey
12/1 into 8/1 Tony Dobson
25/1 out to 50/1 Kevin Horkin
25/1 Brian Roberts
100/1 into 80/1 Andew B as he has not as yet ruled himself out! LOL

new market emerging... When will the Cons select
50/1 Nov
5/2 Dec
11/10 Jan
4/1 Feb
12/1 March
April is to late...
I came across this on UKPollingReport. Posted by the user 'Blobby'.

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Originally Posted by 'Blobby' on UkPollingReport

There seems problems in the Tory camp. Heres my odds on their selection

2/1 to 6/4 Peter Clarke (dep leader from gt harwood)
3/1 to 5/2 Any outside candidate
7/2 any Female outside candidate
5/1 out to 20/1 Peter Britcliffe
11/2 to 4/1 Male Outside Candidate
8/1 out to 12/1 Marlene Haworth
8/1 out to 12/1 A Euro MPs son
10/1 into 8/1 Asian candidate from Blackburn
10/1 out to 25/1 Janet Storey
12/1 into 8/1 Tony Dobson
25/1 out to 50/1 Kevin Horkin
25/1 Brian Roberts

and when will the Cons select
50/1 Nov
5/2 Dec
11/10 Jan
4/1 Feb
12/1 March
April is to late…
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/s...?cp=6#comments

'Blobby' goes on to write some detailed information about the Hyndburn constituency, and how Labour are "even money and probably a safe bet to retain this quirky seat."

'Blobby' seems quite complacent. A potentially disastrous mindset if 'Blobby' were a parliamentary candidate.

Graham has of course denied writing under another name. Blobby must just be somebody who writes the same things as him. And knows lots about the constituency past like he's just posted. And the ins and outs of the Conservative Association, such as his mention of Hugh McNeil. The fact that Graham has just mentioned these things in another thread as recently as tonight, are probably just coincidences.

turkishdelight 17-01-2010 22:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779300)
Oh. Only, 'Peter B' on ConservativeHome sounded remarkably like you, and his calls from the press seemed to happen on the same day, and say similar sorts of things. Must just be a coincidence.



I came across this on UKPollingReport. Posted by the user 'Blobby'.


ukpollingreport.co.uk » Hyndburn

'Blobby' goes on to write some detailed information about the Hyndburn constituency, and how Labour are "even money and probably a safe bet to retain this quirky seat."

'Blobby' seems quite complacent. A potentially disastrous mindset if 'Blobby' were a parliamentary candidate.

Graham has of course denied writing under another name. Blobby must just be somebody who writes the same things as him. And knows lots about the constituency past like he's just posted. And the ins and outs of the Conservative Association, such as his mention of Hugh McNeil. The fact that Graham has just mentioned these things in another thread as recently as tonight, are probably just coincidences.
Exactly the same from Blobby without your name for some reason.

garinda 18-01-2010 00:00
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778916)
Oh well I tried to be helpful.

If you're unwilling to pm the person whom answers are apparently sought from, you can continue pm'ing each other, and hopefully send them to me by mistake...again.

How I'd love to recieve another 'Doo-doo' message, addressed to andrewb, but sent to myself in error.

You've wiped it from your memory?

It was the one in which you said you'd warned andrewb about not using the Freedom of Information Act to look into councillor's expenses, because Peter Britcliffe would end up in the 'Doo-doo'.

Any more interesting messages gratefully recieved c/o garinda's messages at Accy Web.

:)

Oh my goodness!

Forget your atheism Rind, there is a God, and he's looking down on you old sunbeam!!!

The day after posting this, up pops a little message in my box.

Odd, Jaysay isn't in the habit of messaging me much.

Opens message.

'Dear Andrew'!!!!!!!!!

It then goes on to give sensitive details of the current state of play regarding the Conservative candidate short-list.

Who said lightning couldn't strike twice?

John, thank you. I'm laughing so much l'm crying, and am in danger of hyper-ventilating.

I can't think straight at the moment, and don't know rules regarding publishing personal messages, or is that just karma?

Who cares I'm sure I'll be able to release the information somehow.

:yelrotflm:worthy::jump3::joint::cuddle::s_aim1::s :kiss8::bow8::Banane20:


Just checked.

Personal messages can't be posted in public.

Anyone wanting to know the information in the message sent to me, but meant for andrewb, just mesage me, and l'll personaly give you the jist.

:D

'A' is quite near 'g' in the alphabet.

It's an easy enough mistake to happen....twice.

:D

garinda 18-01-2010 00:11
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Just checked.

Personal messages can't be posted in public.

Anyone wanting to know the information in the message sent to me, but meant for andrewb, just mesage me, and l'll personaly give you the jist.



'A' is quite near 'g' in the alphabet.

It's an easy enough mistake to happen....twice.

garinda 18-01-2010 00:16
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779300)
Oh. Only, 'Peter B' on ConservativeHome sounded remarkably like you, and his calls from the press seemed to happen on the same day, and say similar sorts of things. Must just be a coincidence.



I came across this on UKPollingReport. Posted by the user 'Blobby'.


ukpollingreport.co.uk » Hyndburn

'Blobby' goes on to write some detailed information about the Hyndburn constituency, and how Labour are "even money and probably a safe bet to retain this quirky seat."

'Blobby' seems quite complacent. A potentially disastrous mindset if 'Blobby' were a parliamentary candidate.

Graham has of course denied writing under another name. Blobby must just be somebody who writes the same things as him. And knows lots about the constituency past like he's just posted. And the ins and outs of the Conservative Association, such as his mention of Hugh McNeil. The fact that Graham has just mentioned these things in another thread as recently as tonight, are probably just coincidences.

Fact is sometimes stranger than fiction.

As was the case on here, when Peter Britcliffe, in one of his three posts, wrote in the third person.

Almost like he hadn't wrote it, though his close friends assured us he had.

By the way, if you want to know the sensitive information Jaysay was sending to you, but which landed in my box, just message me.

;)

MargaretR 18-01-2010 00:29
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
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A wonderful manifestation of sychronicity

cashman 18-01-2010 00:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 779322)
A wonderful manifestation of sychronicity
is it? ya lost me a bit wi that.:D i presume it means makes ya pee yerself?:D

MargaretR 18-01-2010 00:34
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 779324)
is it? ya lost me a bit wi that.:D i presume it means makes ya pee yerself?:D
explanation :rolleyes:
Synchronicity
We can often see a pattern in seemingly random events, though some people seem to be more capable of seeing than others. Maybe you have to know how to look.

garinda 18-01-2010 00:37
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
I'm always getting junk mail.

Though one or two turn out to be priceless.

:)

cashman 18-01-2010 00:39
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 779325)
explanation :rolleyes:
Synchronicity
We can often see a pattern in seemingly random events, though some people seem to be more capable of seeing than others. Maybe you have to know how to look.
Ta margaret, but it sure cracked me up.:D

MargaretR 18-01-2010 00:47
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 779327)
Ta margaret, but it sure cracked me up.:D
Me too - can hardly wait for Jaysay to come on line tomorrow - I may even set my alarm clock:D

garinda 18-01-2010 01:16
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 779330)
Me too - can hardly wait for Jaysay to come on line tomorrow - I may even set my alarm clock:D
Without breaking any rules, it does start with Dear Andrew....and ends with but best not tell everyone on Accy Web, John.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

shillelagh 18-01-2010 01:35
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
does this mean i have to get up early to see the posts before they get deleted ...:D:D:D

jaysay 18-01-2010 09:04
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779314)
Oh my goodness!

Forget your atheism Rind, there is a God, and he's looking down on you old sunbeam!!!

The day after posting this, up pops a little message in my box.

Odd, Jaysay isn't in the habit of messaging me much.

Opens message.

'Dear Andrew'!!!!!!!!!

It then goes on to give sensitive details of the current state of play regarding the Conservative candidate short-list.

Who said lightning couldn't strike twice?

John, thank you. I'm laughing so much l'm crying, and am in danger of hyper-ventilating.

I can't think straight at the moment, and don't know rules regarding publishing personal messages, or is that just karma?

Who cares I'm sure I'll be able to release the information somehow.

:yelrotflm:worthy::jump3::joint::cuddle::s_aim1::s :kiss8::bow8::Banane20:


Just checked.

Personal messages can't be posted in public.

Anyone wanting to know the information in the message sent to me, but meant for andrewb, just message me, and l'll personally give you the jist.

:D

'A' is quite near 'g' in the alphabet.

It's an easy enough mistake to happen....twice.

:D
Well you suggest I did it yesterday so I did, if you think I did that by mistake your thicker than I through you were:D:D:D:D
Lightening doesn't strike twice Rindi if you think it does join the Labour Party they're very gullible:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:t ongueout

andrewb 18-01-2010 09:22
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 779353)
Well you suggest I did it yesterday so I did, if you think I did that by mistake your thicker than I through you were:D:D:D:D
Lightening doesn't strike twice Rindi if you think it does join the Labour Party they're very gullible:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:t ongueout
Hahaha.
:yelrotflm:yelrotflm

After he had hyped himself up in the early hours too.
What a silly gullible billy. :D
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

blazey 18-01-2010 09:30
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779332)
Without breaking any rules, it does start with Dear Andrew....and ends with but best not tell everyone on Accy Web, John.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:
Maybe I'm just making a wrong assumption here... but surely posting any information contained in a personal message is against rules, whether it has any value or not? You have quoted text from a PM rather than any sort of paraphrasing, which surely makes that information? Then you still went on to say what the content of the message was...

I'm all for bending rules though so do carry on. It looks like it was all set up to make you look stupid anyway. Actually, it is quite amusing that you yourself pointed out how far away 'a' and 'g' are from each other, especially as anyone who has used this PM system would know that even hitting 'a' or 'g' would then involve you specifically selecting a person... and yet you still feel that it was a mistake rather than something suspicious...

jaysay 18-01-2010 09:38
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazey (Post 779361)
Maybe I'm just making a wrong assumption here... but surely posting any information contained in a personal message is against rules, whether it has any value or not? You have quoted text from a PM rather than any sort of paraphrasing, which surely makes that information? Then you still went on to say what the content of the message was...

I'm all for bending rules though so do carry on. It looks like it was all set up to make you look stupid anyway. Actually, it is quite amusing that you yourself pointed out how far away 'a' and 'g' are from each other, especially as anyone who has used this PM system would know that even hitting 'a' or 'g' would then involve you specifically selecting a person... and yet you still feel that it was a mistake rather than something suspicious...
I'm not sure if that goes for miss information blazey:D

jaysay 18-01-2010 09:42
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 778916)
Oh well I tried to be helpful.

If you're unwilling to pm the person whom answers are apparently sought from, you can continue pm'ing each other, and hopefully send them to me by mistake...again.

How I'd love to receive another 'Doo-doo' message, addressed to andrewb, but sent to myself in error.

You've wiped it from your memory?

It was the one in which you said you'd warned andrewb about not using the Freedom of Information Act to look into councillor's expenses, because Peter Britcliffe would end up in the 'Doo-doo'.

Any more interesting messages gratefully recieved c/o garinda's messages at Accy Web.

:)
Its when I read this post of yours Rindi that I wondered if you would be silly enough to think I'd do it twice, evidently you are are that silly:D

garinda 18-01-2010 10:51
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazey (Post 779361)
Maybe I'm just making a wrong assumption here... but surely posting any information contained in a personal message is against rules, whether it has any value or not? You have quoted text from a PM rather than any sort of paraphrasing, which surely makes that information? Then you still went on to say what the content of the message was...

I'm all for bending rules though so do carry on. It looks like it was all set up to make you look stupid anyway. Actually, it is quite amusing that you yourself pointed out how far away 'a' and 'g' are from each other, especially as anyone who has used this PM system would know that even hitting 'a' or 'g' would then involve you specifically selecting a person... and yet you still feel that it was a mistake rather than something suspicious...
I didn't use any quotation marks, so the loose interpretation of how it began and ended, is breaking no rules.

;)

garinda 18-01-2010 10:58
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 779364)
Its when I read this post of yours Rindi that I wondered if you would be silly enough to think I'd do it twice
Sadly the answer is evidently yes.

The pathetic reasoning that it was somehow a bluff, is risible.

Keep backpedaling.

I wonder if HisMastersVoiceHBC would like to read it, and decide as to whether it's content should be made public?

:rolleyes:

MargaretR 18-01-2010 14:33
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 779353)
Well you suggest I did it yesterday so I did, if you think I did that by mistake your thicker than I through you were:D:D:D:D
Lightening doesn't strike twice Rindi if you think it does join the Labour Party they're very gullible:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout:t ongueout
This post comes across to me as a 'damage limitation' excercise.
The fact that Garinda did not consider that you could have ever been so devious does him credit.

The fact that you were so devious (if what you say you did is correct) then it discredits you.

All this deviousness about is very destructive for good communication between all of us :(

jaysay 18-01-2010 15:12
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 779423)
This post comes across to me as a 'damage limitation' exercise.
The fact that Garinda did not consider that you could have ever been so devious does him credit.

The fact that you were so devious (if what you say you did is correct) then it discredits you.

All this deviousness about is very destructive for good communication between all of us :(
Rindi dragged the issue up regarding me send a PM to him meant for someone else, didn't want to disappoint so I sent him the bogus one for a laugh, but never thought he was gullible enough to think I'd do it again, seems I was wrong, next time I'll tell him the moons made of green cheese, it isn't really:rolleyes:

jaysay 18-01-2010 15:15
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779384)
Sadly the answer is evidently yes.

The pathetic reasoning that it was somehow a bluff, is risible.

Keep backpedaling.

I wonder if HisMastersVoiceHBC would like to read it, and decide as to whether it's content should be made public?

:rolleyes:
You have MY permission to publish it, its you thats the donkey this time:D:D:D:D:D LMAO

andrewb 18-01-2010 15:38
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779384)
Sadly the answer is evidently yes.

The pathetic reasoning that it was somehow a bluff, is risible.

Keep backpedaling.

I wonder if HisMastersVoiceHBC would like to read it, and decide as to whether it's content should be made public?

:rolleyes:
Lol.. you're gullible even after you've been told? Gets better and better. :yelrotflm

I know it's not often that you own up to being wrong, but perhaps now is that time, instead of digging yourself a deeper hole. Silly billy.

garinda 18-01-2010 15:54
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 779423)
This post comes across to me as a 'damage limitation' excercise.
The fact that Garinda did not consider that you could have ever been so devious does him credit.

The fact that you were so devious (if what you say you did is correct) then it discredits you.

All this deviousness about is very destructive for good communication between all of us :(
It looks like at least one party are incapable in the forthcoming General Election in Hyndburn, of putting up a good clean fight.

Still, even common rats will attack, when backed into a corner, with no means of escape from a situation.

I'm thankful that I've never been a member of any political party, especially when they have to resort to such dirty tricks.

Though in this case I'm 100% convinced this was just another extraordinary blunder, covered by a lot of old guff after the event.

andrewb 18-01-2010 15:58
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
I think you should publish it now that the sender has given you permission. I'd like to know what it says that got you so excited. :D

garinda 18-01-2010 16:12
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779448)
I think you should publish it now that the sender has given you permission. I'd like to know what it says that got you so excited. :D
As a moderator on Accrington Web, do you really think you should be using your position to encourage other members to break clear forum rules?

Rules which seem fairly transparent, and make no mention of it being fine to publish, even with consent.

12: All posts on the forum to be made in English. If you wish to communicate in a foreign language, please do so on the PM system,also PM=PRIVATE MESSAGE and all pm's are just that Private and must not be posted on the forum no matter how old they are or who they are from.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...mer-29681.html

I'm sure you'd love my right to a democratic voice on here to be silenced, but I have no intention of aquiring a ban. So that isn't going to happen.

cashman 18-01-2010 16:38
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779448)
I think you should publish it now that the sender has given you permission. I'd like to know what it says that got you so excited. :D
Why don't you Andrew? you clearly thought the same. and YOU know what it said.:rolleyes::D

andrewb 18-01-2010 17:19
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Garinda, that rule is in place to stop private conversations in PM from being spread from there, as one member may have sent a private message under the impression that it is indeed, private. As the sender has given his consent to that particular message being posted, there is no problem. As a moderator I can tell you now, you wont be banned.

Cashman, I haven't seen the PM. I've no idea if garinda sent it to others on request, but I didn't request it.

garinda 18-01-2010 17:36
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779483)
Garinda, that rule is in place to stop private conversations in PM from being spread from there, as one member may have sent a private message under the impression that it is indeed, private. As the sender has given his consent to that particular message being posted, there is no problem. As a moderator I can tell you now, you wont be banned.

Cashman, I haven't seen the PM. I've no idea if garinda sent it to others on request, but I didn't request it.
Sent under the title 'Hi Andrew'.

Hello Andrew

Just thought i'd tell you that the party has not picked a candidate yet, but best not tell everybody on Any Web

John

Seems fairly obvious it wasn't intended for me, but a straightforward communication between Jaysay and andrewb.

blazey 18-01-2010 18:28
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
If the rules were followed by their strictest sense, it would mean that anything I discuss with someone via PM can never be discussed on the forum, which would cause all sorts of problems, wouldn't it?

cashman 18-01-2010 18:44
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779483)
Garinda, that rule is in place to stop private conversations in PM from being spread from there, as one member may have sent a private message under the impression that it is indeed, private. As the sender has given his consent to that particular message being posted, there is no problem. As a moderator I can tell you now, you wont be banned.

Cashman, I haven't seen the PM. I've no idea if garinda sent it to others on request, but I didn't request it.
i never said you had seen it, i said you know what was in it n you do, are ya denying that?:rolleyes:

turkishdelight 18-01-2010 19:33
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 779520)
i never said you had seen it, i said you know what was in it n you do, are ya denying that?:rolleyes:
Cashman Just been out for dinner with A.B. He had no idea what was in it, he was laughing about what had happened and i thought Jaysay may have named the conservative candidate, in the message, the reason why Gary was so exited. Andrew informed me that he did not know, what the message was about, because he had never received it.Turned out not to be as exiting ,as i thought,after reading it.

garinda 18-01-2010 19:48
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 779543)
Cashman Just been out for dinner with A.B. He had no idea what was in it, he was laughing about what had happened and i thought Jaysay may have named the conservative candidate, in the message, the reason why Gary was so exited. Andrew informed me that he did not know, what the message was about, because he had never received it.Turned out not to be as exiting ,as i thought,after reading it.
I suggest you might be wise to read the rules of this site too, not having my consent to use my real name.


8: No personal names, addresses & phone numbers to be left on the forum, unless with consent of the person concerned.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...mer-29681.html

Less 18-01-2010 19:57
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 779429)
next time I'll tell him the moons made of green cheese, it isn't really:rolleyes:
And you can prove it isn't made of green cheese how?

We have more than our fair share of stick their head in the sand conspiracy theorists that claim the Americans never went to the moon, so unless you can prove those loony tunes wrong why should we believe anything from a tory with his head stuck up his own sand dune about what the moon is made of?
:D

garinda 18-01-2010 20:09
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 779543)
Cashman Just been out for dinner with A.B. He had no idea what was in it, he was laughing about what had happened and i thought Jaysay may have named the conservative candidate, in the message, the reason why Gary was so exited. Andrew informed me that he did not know, what the message was about, because he had never received it.Turned out not to be as exiting ,as i thought,after reading it.

...and besides, as you once foolishly tried to recruit a close relative of mine into joining a pyramid selling scheme, promising riches beyond one's wildest dreams, your ability to judge the true facts of a situation, I don't hold very much store by.

Unless of course you're posting on Accy Web from a mansion on a private island somewhere.

Then l may have to reconsider your gullibilty, and not hold your opinion in such low esteem.

turkishdelight 18-01-2010 20:10
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779548)
I suggest you might be wise to read the rules of this site too, not having my consent to use my real name.


8: No personal names, addresses & phone numbers to be left on the forum, unless with consent of the person concerned.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...mer-29681.html
As i have witnessed personal names used previously, i was not aware it was such an issue, however i guess i thought it was nice to use a name sometimes,polite, i thought. Read the rules previously but forgotten them now. Apologies.

andrewb 18-01-2010 20:14
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779548)
I suggest you might be wise to read the rules of this site too, not having my consent to use my real name.


8: No personal names, addresses & phone numbers to be left on the forum, unless with consent of the person concerned.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...mer-29681.html
Get a grip. Loads of people use your name. Are you going to start picking and choosing who can or cannot use your name when replying to you despite it all being in the public eye? You can try reporting it and see what the other mods think. If you haven't already reported it, then I'd suspect you were just being petty.

turkishdelight, I reckon it would be best if you called him Garinda so he doesn't have a hissy fit.

Cashman as of today Jaysay told me the general content of the message, I thought it might have been longer. Seems not. Kind of amusing that Garinda is still under the impression that this was genuinely meant for myself. Makes me giggle whenever I read the thread. Too proud to admit he was done. :D

Less 18-01-2010 20:17
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779555)
turkishdelight, I reckon it would be best if you called him Garinda so he doesn't have a hissy fit.
Yes, he may have a hissy fit, perhaps because his user name doesn't have a capital 'G'!
:D

garinda 18-01-2010 20:18
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779555)
Loads of people use your name.
No they don't.

Rules are rules.

Such a flippant disregard for them is very telling.

garinda 18-01-2010 20:20
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 779556)
Yes, he may have a hissy fit, perhaps because his user name doesn't have a capital 'G'!
:D
Don't pick on the little lamb.

He's only just taken his 'victim' hat and mittens off.

Less 18-01-2010 20:22
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779558)
Don't pick on the little lamb.

He's only just taken his 'victim' hat and mittens off.
Sorry Garry, oop's I mean rindy, erm Garinda, doh garinda.
;)

turkishdelight 18-01-2010 20:22
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779553)
...and besides, as you once foolishly tried to recruit a close relative of mine into joining a pyramid selling scheme, promising riches beyond one's wildest dreams, your ability to judge the true facts of a situation, I don't hold very much store by.

Unless of course you're posting on Accy Web from a mansion on a private island somewhere.

Then l may have to reconsider your gullibilty, and not hold your opinion in such low esteem.
This has no relevance in this forum. My ability to judge the facts worked very well for me at that time. Your entitled to your opinion of me. However your so wrong.I wonder why you always try to make it personal, what do you get from it. I would try never to offend or have a dig at you personally.
In my opinion this is stooping so low.

Less 18-01-2010 20:25
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 779560)
In my opinion this is stooping so low.
I quite agree, but it begs the question...

garinda, how low can you get?
:cool:

shillelagh 18-01-2010 20:26
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779448)
I think you should publish it now that the sender has given you permission. I'd like to know what it says that got you so excited. :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 779454)
As a moderator on Accrington Web, do you really think you should be using your position to encourage other members to break clear forum rules?

Rules which seem fairly transparent, and make no mention of it being fine to publish, even with consent.

12: All posts on the forum to be made in English. If you wish to communicate in a foreign language, please do so on the PM system,also PM=PRIVATE MESSAGE and all pm's are just that Private and must not be posted on the forum no matter how old they are or who they are from.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...mer-29681.html

I'm sure you'd love my right to a democratic voice on here to be silenced, but I have no intention of aquiring a ban. So that isn't going to happen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 779483)
Garinda, that rule is in place to stop private conversations in PM from being spread from there, as one member may have sent a private message under the impression that it is indeed, private. As the sender has given his consent to that particular message being posted, there is no problem. As a moderator I can tell you now, you wont be banned.

Cashman, I haven't seen the PM. I've no idea if garinda sent it to others on request, but I didn't request it.

After numerous tellings off from mick ... i have been under the impression that pm's are private .. and not allowed on accyweb .. even if the sender gives his permission .. seeing as ive done that in the past and got a telling off about it as well.

garinda 18-01-2010 20:30
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 779560)
This has no relevance in this forum. My ability to judge the facts worked very well for me at that time. Your entitled to your opinion of me. However your so wrong.I wonder why you always try to make it personal, what do you get from it. I would try never to offend or have a dig at you personally.
In my opinion this is stooping so low.
Make it personal?

After using my real name on here, without my consent?

Get real.

Any further evidence of your abilities, were formed in your first posts on here, when you said you didn't know who your councillors were, or how you could contact them.

So forgive me if I don't hold your opinion to judge this matter very highly.

garinda 18-01-2010 20:31
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 779563)
After numerous tellings off from mick ... i have been under the impression that pm's are private .. and not allowed on accyweb .. even if the sender gives his permission .. seeing as ive done that in the past and got a telling off about it as well.
Strange how rules can be 'bent' for some, but not for others, depending on who stands to benefit.

garinda 18-01-2010 20:34
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 779562)
I quite agree, but it begs the question...

garinda, how low can you get?
:cool:
When dealing with snakes, low.

Lower than a snake's belly low.

Less 18-01-2010 20:35
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
Perhaps it's time the thread went back on track or am I going to have to invoke 'Godwin's Law'?
:(

garinda 18-01-2010 20:37
Re: Potential Labour Candidate for Hyndburn
 
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Originally Posted by turkishdelight (Post 779560)
This has no relevance in this forum. My ability to judge the facts worked very well for me at that time. Your entitled to your opinion of me. However your so wrong.I wonder why you always try to make it personal, what do you get from it. I would try never to offend or have a dig at you personally.
In my opinion this is stooping so low.
No offence was intended.

I was merely giving factual evidence why I don't hold your judgement in particularly high esteem, since you've proffered your opinion on the matter of the pm, sent to me by mistake.


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