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Wouldnt it be better all in all if they didnt send the calendars out till halfway through may ... with details of how to contact the local councillors, the details on who to contact when you've complaints about the bins, roads, parks etc at the town hall, details of county councillors on, details of bin collections, recycle collections etc, events in the parks like the mela ... and the calendar run from 1st june - 31st may .. that way then the calendar wouldnt be out of date.

just an idea ...:D:D:D

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They could have freely advised residents of who their councillors are, via the community website, which was set up with a grant of £591,000.00 from the government.

It was all a bit too much trouble for our council though, and was so out of date, they were sadly listing councillors who'd died five months previously.

Still it was only £591,000.00 which they wasted.....YES! OF OUR MONEY!!!!

Row flares over £591,000 spent on outdated website - News - Accrington Observer

Costly website a ‘desperate failure’ - News - Accrington Observer

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oh my god, i can see where andrew gets it from, its in the genes.:rolleyes::D

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No Gary. Not at all. I must not be being very clear.

I am not for a second saying that if all councillors had been involved it would have been a good use of money. You already know this, I've spoken of it several times in this thread alone. ;)

It's a total waste to produce. I'm criticising both sides though, the tories who produced it and labour who made it less valuable to residents and therefore more of a waste.

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You're right, you're not very clear.

If it's a total waste of money per se, it doesn't become less of a waste just because it doesn't contain all the councillor's details.

If it's a waste of money you should be applauding those councillors who thought so too, and opposed them.

If it was party political, and not funded by the residents of the borough, I wouldn't give two figs. Their money, therefore they can do what the hell they like.

Though this badly designed trash would still go straight into the recycling sack, it wouldn't matter at all to me, because we hadn't paid for it!

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I believe the calendars should never have been produced at taxpayers expense. I applaud Labour, or anybody, for suggesting this. It does not become less of a waste because it lacks councillors details, you're right.

I do believe it becomes more of a waste because of the lack of councillors details. No it doesn't become more of a monetary waste, it's the same £500 whether it has numbers of all or some of our councillors, but the value to the resident is surely more if all councillors are included.

If you don't feel that the value of anything exists beyond the cost, that's fine. To me if I flushed £5 down the drain, it would be more of a waste than buying a couple of pints, even if I didn't originally want a drink. I might not have originally wanted the drinks, but I'd damn well rather have the drink than it be flushed down - which is where the criticism of both parties comes in.

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Wyn your a grand bloke and I like you but your way of mark on this one, as I've said many times on here for a lot of the time there was no Stanley, back in the early days I used to watch both Stanley and Rovers, then there was no Stanley, but I am now a dyed in the Wool Rover as is PB can't speak for Graham, so you can hardly expect us to drop the Rovers like a stone because of Stanley's resurgence. Mind you that is not to say that like myself I know PB and I'm sure Graham want Stanley to do well, nobody supported the Save Our Stanley more than me and I'm not a fan, but I still love it when they are doing well like at present. Could I as where you actually live and shouldn't you be supporting your nearest football team, well you should be by your yardstick ;)

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Not expecting anybody to drop the Rovers like a stone, Jaysay. Cashy's a Rovers fan and he manages to turn up at Stanley on a very regular basis. Councillor Britcliffe, as a born-and-bred Accy lad and the major representative of the borough should do the same by adopting Stanley as his second club. I don't know for sure, but I would imagine that he doesn't get to all of Rovers away matches so he could quite easily do so. The fact that he doesn't makes all his pronouncements about the people of the borough getting behind Stanley just so much hypocritical cant. Graham's got a bit more of an excuse as he's a Mill Hill lad, but, as the leader of the opposition, he also should be turning up to the Crown Ground more often. They ought to take their lead from Bernard Dawson - a shining example of a local councillor supporting his local club!

As for me, I support Stanley because I'm an Accy lad, wherever I may roam, but that's of no consequence, as I'm just an ordinary Joe. What I'm saying is that Messrs Britcliffe, Jones and others should be supporting Stanley more publicly by pitching up on a regular basis as representatives of the borough.

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They'll be there when Stanley go to Wembley in May and win promotion through the play off's Wynonie and no doubt that 1500 regulars at the FES will grow to 25.000 on that day too:D

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Oh, yes, they'll be there when there's a photo opportunity and it's to be hoped that it's a better photo than the one on that wretched calendar! :D

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Well it will be, he'll have a red and white scarf on:D

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Like I said before - Why?
Its only a game. Its not as though it is important.

What other games do you think our Local Councillors should be forced to support?

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I don't think it right that we should dictate how councillors spend their leisure time
.....if it's decent and legal then it's OK
Life doesn't begin and end with football for everybody
.....and those for whom it does.....:rolleyes:

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ASFC gets national attention (now for all the right reasons) and due to the club's continuing success, it brings business to the town (all those Bradford fans have to drink somewhere!). As one of the few remaining things to be proud of in this area, I think local councillors should respect the club more and put more interest into it. We're a community club and won't be used for political gain, but it'd be nice if the people running the area showed a bit of pride in the town's most successful asset.

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Shakey's said it all, really. Accrington Stanley is the most successful export this borough has these days. The councillors we are talking about already have an interest in football, so they're hardly being "forced" to support the game. It would be nice to see them show a little pride in their local football league club.

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It is as i pointed out earlier.;)

this is how ridiculous ya are- The only people in the wrong ARE those that decided to waste "Public Money" on this. to bring other factors into this once the money is wasted is Pathetic, as ya have said "many times" on this thread ya think its a waste, yet ya have not the balls to slag yer own lot, without having a pop at the people who refused to take part in it, yer really showing yerself fer what ya are.:rolleyes:

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If anyone is desperate to check the quality of last years's calendar, compared to this year's, you can see the 2009 calendar in post 165 of this thread...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...-18823-11.html

I did read a post a little further on in that thread, that quite a few residents had wrote to the Observer last January, complaining about their council taxes being spent on such useless frippery.

Looks like they've chosen to turn another blind eye to any criticism by the residents of Hyndburn, who yearly fund this extravagance.

Is the old saying, about a fool and his money being soon parted, still valid when it concerns other people's money?

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Nice to see your feeling better Rindi, so much so you've now contrived two flaming threads on the bloody calendars:eek:

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...and if some councillors are stupid enough to produce calendars for 2011, using Hyndburn resident's taxes, there'll be three threads this time next year.

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I'm curious. Apparently there was no vote on the Area Management Councils, so who chose to put the calendars out?

The Area Management Councils calendars were to be paid by the Cabinet Action Fund where as Area Management Boards were expected to pay out of revenue. Why?

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It is all part of the inner mystery of life. :)

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I'd have hoped you would be able to shine some line on it being a councillor.. :p

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If the council operated democratically(and not as a dictatorship) she probably would:rolleyes:

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didn't know the ruling group dictated to Labour thought that was solely down to Iatola Jones

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I only know about the consultation with the West Accrington Area Management Board (as I am chair of that board). The matter was discussed at a board meeting and rejected unanimously by the board members.

Regarding the Area Management Councils - I only have the information that was passed to me about the costs and were the funding was being obtained from. i have no idea which councillors were contacted about the calendars.

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I've been scratching my head here trying to think who might have made the decision. Are you sure you cant shed any more light on it?

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Well I all know is that is wasn't any of the Labour Group.

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Well I would have thought you'd done your homework! Does Graham know, or should I ask a party that knows what's going on? :p

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Maybe the person the ask about who made the decision to send Area Management calendars in the Area Management Council Areas (Oswaldtwistle, Great Harwood, Rishton, Huncoat and Baxenden) is Peter Britcliffe (or a councillor from one of these areas). Maybe you should email Peter Britcliffe and ask who made the decision.

As I have said before the Area Management Boards received an email with the costs of the calendars (which was to be paid for by the Area Management Board). All the 4 Area Management Boards (Sringhill, West Accrington, East Accrington, Clayton and Altham) decided not to have the calendars.

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I will ask Peter Britcliffe then. As leader of the labour group on council though I thought Graham would have known what was going on.

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Its quite obvious Andrew that Labour councillors don't know what day it is, never mind who makes decisions better make the questions simpler in future:rolleyes:

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Cant understand the table tennis of this calendargate carryon at all.

If anyone wants a calendar I have 2 from my local Chinese munch hut so I can send the spare one to them if they like. If not I will donate it as a booby prize for the worst pic in the photo comps. :D

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Its okay Spugs its only Rindi getting is annual bee in his bonnet, he'll soon settle down and put the thread to bed whilst next year:D

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And I was looking for last years calendar as first prize in the photo comp. :(

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Neither can I especially given the fact that we had an aborted terrorist attack in the US and the suspect is thought to have been a UK resident. Would have thought national security would have been more of a talking point than a poxy calendar.:rolleyes:

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The calendar would be put on trial for aiding and abetting the attempted terrorist attack on a U.S plane in a U.S city. It would be sentenced to death and burnt at the local power station. :D

Posted via Mobile Device your local power station mmm is that a refinery i saw in the distance last time i was there :-) think it would need more than 1 calender to keep them flares going!

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The local herd of cows keep the candles glowing. :D

Posted via Mobile Deviceyou are talking of the 4 legged kind and not the neighbours :-)

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Depends on the day and week. Trying to keep track but lost mi calendar. :o

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Er...it wasn't me that brought up the fact that we've had yet another calendar produced this year, at some considerable cost to the people of the borough.

It was Gayle.

;)

As for other news stories, l'm also busily posting on wevehousedanotherterrorist.com, but will continue posting about local issues on this local forum.

;)

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So national issues do not effected local people, or is it only when there a Tory government;)

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As pointed out earlier today, I've been scathing of this government on this very forum umpteen times, but sadly because some people wear blinkers, they don't see those attacks.

I'm quite happy to discuss national issues on here, when they have some effect locally, but besides not being able to again take a cigarette lighter in my hand luggage when I next go away, some Nigerian who was once a student in London, and has set his thighs on fire as he landed in Detroit, I prefer to debate those issues on other forums.

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The last time there was a Tory government there wasn't an Accy Web.

;)

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well theres only 3 days left of this year .. then you'll be able to put up your new one from wongs .... :D:D:D

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then start a thread on it,is the way to find out. though would add, think local things cause more interest on any local forum?:confused:

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Excuse me, stop trying to get in on my action.

If anyone wants a calendar, the Friends of Rhyddings Park are selling their 2010 calendar for a mere £2. All proceeds are going into the group to help us fund our activities.

If anyone wants one just PM me and we will sort it out.

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What was done that was not democratic?

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[quote=BERNADETTE;772801]Neither can I especially given the fact that we had an aborted terrorist attack in the US and the suspect is thought to have been a UK resident. Would have thought national security would have been more of a talking point than a poxy calendar.:rolleyes:[/quote

Compared to something like terrorism, the calendar pales into insignificance as you rightly say Bernie.

The issue with the calendar is straight forward as well Bernie. Are ratepayers in this Borough happy that a part of their rates is being spent on calendars.

If they are fine. My own view is that the money spent on calendars could be better spent on other things that need doing in the Borough.

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my own view is trivilising the calendar issue, is just the same as trivilising the waste of public money.

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As said before this thread is about calendars, if you want to talk about terrorism start a thread.

As for as the residents being happy that is simple - wait for the results in May. If the Tories get kicked out the residents were not happy with them.

So what would you have spent the couple of grand on then?

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Probably would have added up to more than two thousand for the calendar, for all of the Borough .

In Ossy £500 was the figure mentioned,but that doesn't include the cost of delivering and also officer time. So I think it's on the low side.

What would I have spent it on Neil. I've no wish to be provocative, but it could have helped with the gritting over the last couple of weeks. I know it's the counties responsibility.

I've also been trying to get a few quid to spend on the canals, particular the footpaths. It's an attempt to try encourage people to make more use of the canals.

I'm sure you Neil can think of a few things to spend the money on up Ossy. There's usually no shortage of ideas when it comes to spending money.

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Making good a few of the appallingly dangerous pavements we have in the borough?

The ones which could be possible death traps to those with poor eye sight, or those a little unsteady on their feet.

I'm sure the money wasted on these calendars would be easily gobbled up in Church Street alone.

Perhaps the shocking state of our town centre pavements aren't apparent to those in high places, as they are ferried between the Town Hall and Scaitcliffe House, in a Sedan chair.

http://masondixon.pynchonwiki.com/wi...edan-Chair.jpg