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I received my Area Management calendar through the door again this year. Now, last year there were accusations that it was a bit too blue so looked like a Tory calendar - this year however, it's very clearly marked as Area Management.

Yet, once again there is one Councillor missing - Cllr Colette McCormack. As it happens, she's the only Labour Ward Councillor in Ossy, with 6 Conservatives, so presumably she refused to pose with them as happened last year. Last year all the Labour councillors refused to take part in the calendars because they thought it was a waste of money. Well, it's great having principles but you've let yourselves be left out!

I think this is the silly end of politics. As our ward Councillor she should have made sure she was part of the calendar and at the very least made sure her name was on it.

What are the other calendars like around the Borough?

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A calendar with pictures of local councillors "posing"? How egotistical is that? I mean, they may make sure you get your bins collected and your parks maintained, but do you really want to look at their fizogs everyday?

If they were dishing 'em out round our way, I'd stick it in the recycling sack. I'm sure I'll be much happier with my Kathy West calendar up on the kitchen noticeboard! :D

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I speak for us all when I say we are facing cuts and these are uneccessary especially when the council hands out superb recycling calendars.

Bare in mind Labour Councillors have paid for Christmas cards themselves for the last few years with plenty of details. There is no need for calendars. This was a response by the council in my view to use council tax payers money for a political purposes.

They haven't put County Councillors details on which would be useful. Cynically I you recall last year the Conservative candidate for County was on side January to June on their own and everyone else on the back July to November.

Conservative councillors I feel should have paid for these themselves and took the time to deliver them where capable.

This week all Councillors McCormacks residents will receive a Christmas card with full details at no cost to the ratepayer.

Personally I would prefer my name or photo to only be used to promote or highlight an issue.

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Disagree gayle, what is the silly end of politics is "Wasting" money on silly calendars, that could be better used elsewhere.:rolleyes:

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In actual fact gayle if the council has done this then surely they would have put councillor mccormacks contact details on as she is a councillor .. otherwise that is bad management from the council officers .. and surely they should be took to task. Even if the labour councillors are against the idea of a calendar their details should actually be included otherwise it can be seen to be party political.

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You can't include a Councillors details if they instruct you not too though can you?

Not sure if I agree or not with the calendars but, it does look like Cllr McCormack is not one of our Councillors which is not right

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I've never been sure whether these calendars or Christmas cards for that matter are any good, I would think that most people put them straight in the recycling sack and very few actually keep them for use throughout the year

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I`m one of those.................i have a lovely Kitchen Gardener 2010 calender ready to go up in our kitchen:rolleyes:

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Nice point scoring Mr Jones.... you will go far in politics

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funny how the simple truth gets some people.:rolleyes:

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Ya but have you noticed that Graham doesn't come on here when the real truth is flying around about his beloved Labour Party which has been screwing the country for the last 12 years:D

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A council ie the council officers should be neutral ... no matter how they vote in an election ..and if its given out by the council then their details at least should be put on it .. if a councillor doesnt want no part in having their photo taken to go on it well thats up to them .. but if they just put one councillors details on .. then it should have them all on ... otherwise surely it could actually go to the local government ombudsman ..
Making a complaint against government or public bodies : Directgov - Government, citizens and rights

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It's Area Management so not entirely council - not 100% sure of the exact relationship. However, like Neil said, if the Labour councillor is making a protest and has refused to have her name on it, then the officers of the council can't put it on, can they?

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I think that is the case.

As Colette is not a member maybe Graham could confirm if this is true or not?

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That's right Gayle. The Labour Group feel that these calendar's shouldn't be funded by the Council Tax Payer. It's also the cost of delivering them as well.

Colette, I know is putting out a Christmas card in her ward, funded by Colette, and largely delivered by Colette and her family.

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What are the other areas doing Bernard?

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Most,if not all of the Labour Councillors are putting Christmas Cards out in their wards Gayle. Again on a similar basis to Colette's in Ossy,paid for by themselves.

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And what are the other Area Managements doing?

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Not sure if I agree with you giving out Christmas cards. Some people may be offended by them.

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Well I have never received a card/calender from either joint groups or any councillors. Is this just done in certain areas?

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I can't recollect anything coming through my door from any Council members in Clayton Bernard .. will report if I get one.

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The Christmas Cards are going out in wards with Labour Councillors Bernie. The calender I'm not sure.

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Ahhh ok thanks for that

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There's no Labour Councillors in Clayton Kate. Although I think Miles Parkinson the County Councillor for Clayton and Rishton will be putting some out in he's County ward which includes Clayton.

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Double post

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Triple post

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Jaysay, it's your opinion that the country has been screwed for 12 years. I think the country is a lot better than in 1997. That's only my opinion.

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Yes I know sweetheart .. was talking generally like. :)

I don't think it matters anyway.. not like it would affect my vote or anything.
Get loads from wholesalers/retailers, but won't affect the way I spend my money next year.

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they offend me, cos one has to be sent back.:D says the boss.:rolleyes:

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How much money was wasted on putting this calendar together?

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I don't believe that one Graham, there used to be a Rock band called Blind Faith, bet you were one of their biggest fans:D

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All of it:rolleyes::D

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I don't agree with the council sending out calendars. I however think it's petty of Labour councillors to ask for their details to be removed. The thing is already being produced and it seems a waste to retract councillors names from it. If you oppose it that's fine, shout it from the rooftops, but you may as well be on it if it's going out, for residents to see who all their councillors are and contact details rather than seeing some of their members because of political squabbling at Christmas.

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The cost of the calendar varies from area to area. Ossy's about just over £530, which is the biggest area. Then you have to add on the cost of delivering the calendar.

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Mind you that does pale into insignificance when you look at the money Gordon has thrown down the drain:rolleyes:

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I think I agree with you on that one

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Maybe but what could £530 have been used for in Ossy?

I wonder how much it would have cost to send every house hold a letter with the contact details on and other useful info instead?

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Is there really any need to send this info out to residents? All the info can be obtained from the town hall.

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I am undecided about this. Not everyone knows how to contact there Councillor or why they might want to.

Maybe a letter saying who your local ones are and how to contact them. They could explain what they can help you with and add other useful number like dog warden, crimestoppers etc.

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A letter is fine but would anyone keep it? With a calendar there is always the off-chance that some people might keep hold of it. Last year I went to an office in the Ribble Valley and they one of the Area Council calendars on the wall - proof that they are sometimes used.

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A letter could better explain what the hell Councillors do or can do for you.

If you ask 10 people in the street what use is a local Councillor to you, how many do you think will have any idea at all?
Then ask them if they have ever spoken to there local Councillor except at election time. I would guess none of them will have.

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That's a bit OTT to say Labour has screwed the country. The UK is a much better place now than it was in 1997. Education, health care, civil liberties, immgration laws, the number of people in work, protection for those in work. There is a book somewhere entitled 300 Labour gains. It makes you think how easily we forget at times what has been done.

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But surely if you are on it,when you don't agree with ratepayers money being used fer it, then it would look to many folk like you do? thats how i see it, n think its you thats being petty in that instance.

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This is AccyWeb, you are not supposed to post sensible things :rolleyes::D

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Presumably they don't agree with it because it's an unnecessary waste (at least that is why I don't agree with it). It's even more of a waste if it is produced but with only half the councillors on.

Education: 8th in international Maths league tables in 1997, now 24th.
Health Care: Very highly funded, not sure we have seen the full fruits of it though. Example the billions wasted on NHS IT system.
Civil liberties: Giving powers to councils to use terrorist-like surveillance on residents for trying to cheat catchment areas to get a better education for their children. Countless bodies allowed to enter our homes. A relentless pursuit of ID cards. Holding innocent peoples DNA against their will.
Immigration laws: More needs to be done. Jack Straw looked a fool on Question Time when he tried to argue that the rise of the BNP was nothing to do with Labour's immigration policy.
Number of people in work: 2.5 million people are unemployed, and that's according to official figures which hide much of the reality. 1 in 5 young people are out of work. Five million people have never had a job under Labour.

All this with double the deficit that the last Labour government left us with. In many peoples eyes, yes, Labour have screwed the country.

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so therefore what yer advocating is they should allow themselves to be tarred with the same brush, to the ratepayers, so P.B. n his merry band don't look like its only them wasting money.:rolleyes:

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No, you missed out the bit where I said 'they should shout from the rooftops' that they disagree with it.

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Are you living in the same UK as me? I certainly don't see the UK to be a much better place than it was in 1997.

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that is not much use as a tactic, many do not buy the local press these days. a good soldier knows when to retreat,

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The actual costs of the calendars are as follows -Baxenden £305.00, Huncoat £316.00,
Rishton £355.00, Great Harwood £448.00, Oswaldtwistle £533.00. These areas all have an Area Management Council (which is a new name for Area Councils). This does not include any delivery costs.

None of the following Area Management Boards are having calendars are having calendars - East Accrington, Church and Central. Springhill, Clayton and Altham. This is because the board members voted not to have the calendars. The boards are made up of the ward councillors plus members of the public.

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Seems to be a waste of money to me if most people throw them away

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And that's only the Civil Servants on telephone number salaries, in fact that's being generous there are over 800,000 more civil servants now than in 1997, no doubt the book, if it exists, was written my pinky and perky, or other words Mandy and Campbell. Eduction, Health Care, Civil Liberties and Immigration laws:eek::eek::eek: Notice you didn't mention the Trillion pond debt we've been saddled with, or the two Illegal wars Blair lied through his teeth to get use into. Considering this Government inherited the best economic figures of any incoming government in history, says all you need to know about them and their achievements, they'll be leaving a dogs breakfast of an economy behind them. Mind you it must be great living on planet Graham, where your always right and everybody else is wrong

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May I correct you on one small point?

I am the one who is also right :D:D

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We know that Neil, but this is in Grahams own mind:D

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Right i am at a loss to know what constitutes a "Legal War"? please explain?:confused: whilst i agree Blair lied to the british public, What makes a war Illegal or Legal? personally i think that term is just more bull used by the media/tory sycophants, unless of coarse WW2 was a legal one? when the government of the time,forget who that was:rolleyes: had Germany bombed with "Leaflets" first so as to hopefully save their investments in german factories.:rolleyes: is it that makes it legal?:rolleyes::confused:

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Just received a hand delivered Christmas Card from Miles Parkinson. A lovely snow scene depicting Altham Parish Church .. with a mug shot of Miles and Graham Jones (shirt and tie) on the inside.

Has useful numbers on the inside, with a calendar on the back.

Does also state .. "Paid for by Graham Jones and Miles Parkinson - please recycle" ... :D

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The most eco thing to do would be give the card back to Miles so he can send it someone else next year. You would save all that energy and green house gas release by recycling the card into a new one.

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Its not me that called it an illegal war cashy, twas some labour PMS supporting the Stop the War Coalition, I'm merely using the term:rolleyes:

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well silly cashy, misunderstanding yer post were ya said it, should have known ya normally quote Labour.:D

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Think if you use the search button you will also find a thread about a comic book called "Billy's Weekly Liar" :D :D

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Just a few points for you to ponder on-

The two faces of the Tory party
- The face David Cameron would like you to see and the ugly reality:

• Cameron makes one of his ‘cast iron guarantees’ that the Tories don’t like the National Insurance increase in 2011.
• So what will his party do? He’s instructed his chum, Tatton MP George Osborne, to ‘look at’ NI very carefully. No commitment, just shallow promises.
• In the meantime the Tories say they would go further than the Chancellor’s PBR deficit reducing measures.
• They would cut the deficit ‘faster’ by immediately scrapping the Child Trust Fund, freezing pay and raising the retirement age.
• At the same time Boris Johnson is standing up for the bankers and complaining that a one off tax on bonuses means his city chums are being 'super penalised’.
• Labour has set clear choices for the future that protect North West schools, the NHS and the Police.
• Drastic cuts are not the way out of the downturn - the North West's front line services must be protected.

Challenge Osborne
• At Tory Conference this year George Osborne announced his plans to get rid of the Child Tax Credit for households on more than £50,000 per year.
• He said it would raise them £400 million. However, it has now emerged that this would actually raise them only £45 million.
• To raise £400 million they would need to cut Child Tax Credit from a couple earning as little as £16,000 each - less than average earnings.
• Click on this link to write to your local newspaper and challenge the Tories for an answer


And here are some Labour acheivements -
Ten Labour achievements to be proud of:
1. 900,000 pensioners lifted out of poverty
2. 500,000 children lifted out of relative poverty and measures already in train will lift around a further 500,000 children out of poverty.
3. Free TV licences for over-75s
4. The New Deal has helped over 2 million people into work
5. Over 3 million Child Trust Funds have been started
6. Nearly 3,000 Sure Start Children’s Centres opened, reaching 2 million children and their families
7. Over 42,400 more teachers and 123,000 more teaching assistants than in 1997
8. There have been approximately 3,700 rebuilt and significantly refurbished schools; including new and improved classrooms, laboratories and kitchens.
9. A free nursery place for every 3 and 4 year old.
10. Doubled the number of registered childcare places to more than 1.5 million, one for every four children under eight years old.

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Youv'e been doing a lot of pondering it would seem!

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Bernard you should know I do ponder a lot:):):)

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Thats what Labour do ponder instead of think:rolleyes:

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I'm not sure if copy and pasting from the Labour website is pondering or not. Anyway let me spread a little light onto this post.

"The two faces of the Tory party"

1. This tax on jobs hits 10 million people. I wouldn't think it sensible to tax jobs in a recession when we're heading for 3 million people unemployed under the official figures alone. Contrary to what you write, the Conservative Party will reverse these tax increases and abolish it for startups to help employment rise. Not "shallow promises", instead commitment. Strong leadership. Unlike Gordon Brown who declares rises in pensions only to hide cuts if they win the election.

2. Yes, they would freeze pay. Much of the private sector are struggling with layoffs and pay cuts. The public sector isn't immune to this, a one year pay freeze will help pay off the massive debt that the current government have burdened the country with. Same with child trust funds, the poorest families will still be entitled to them, but why should the very rich? Labour have created a 13% deficit that has to be dealt with in some way.

3. The tax on bankers was backed by the Conservative Party.

4. Labour haven't even committed to ring fencing NHS spending yet. The Conservatives have and will protect the frontline in other areas. Labour don't have mass reform plans, they have had 12 years to do that, cuts without reform from Labour will affect frontline services.

5. Large scale cuts are the way out of the downturn. Both parties realise this. You can't combat a 13% deficit, that is £180billion deficit, by tinkering at the edges.

"Ten Labour achievements to be proud of"

Quite easy to list some things Labour have done over the last 12 years. Quite easy for Labour to borrow, borrow, borrow, spend, spend, spend. Not so easy when you have to deal with the reality of a 13% deficit, hundreds of billions of pounds of borrowing.

You talk of sure start. £23,000 of debt for every child born in Britain today. What sort of start is that?

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To name some other achievements (in no particular order) -
The National Minimum wage
The right to 28 days holiday pay
The right to request flexible working hours for woman with young children
Winter Fuel payments to everyone over age 60 (£250 per household for the over 60's, which rises to £400 for household's are over 80) - this payment is tax free.
Free off peak local bus travel for over 60's anywhere in England
Paid Paternity leave
The length of paid Maternity pay has increased as has the length of time new mothers can take off work.

There are many more as well

Andrew can you 100% guarantee that none of these are under threat if (god forbid) there is a future Tory government?

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None of them would be safe under a Labour Government, because of the massive debt we are now in, they'd be better off running chip shops cuz they they've proved without a shadow of a doubt they sure as hell can't run the bloody country

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Your having a laugh with that one. The amount is so low most people would not manage on it and take paid holidays instead. I know I did.

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Labour have run up the largest peace-time fiscal deficit in our history. As Jaysay says, they've put at risk good things that Labour have introduced.

You seem oblivious to this.

A lot of your posts (not just in this thread) tend to focus on what Labour have done in the past. You suggest that we should keep Labour in despite wrecking our country and being just as financially incompetent as the last Labour government, because of some things they have already implemented. Additionally you suggest either up front, or tacitly imply, that the Conservative's would abolish all these things. Often it turns out that it's the complete opposite.

Our economy, our country, it needs fixing. Would you trust an arson to put out the fire?

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Andrew can you please tell us how, in your opinion, (as you are such an expert on everything) the Tories would have handled the world wide banking crisis.
Would they have acted to protect the savings of millions of UK residents or would they have allowed the banks to fail -which would have been even more destructive to everyone in the UK.
It is all very well being wise after the event and saying that your party would have acted differently.

Maybe you could have a word with your fellow party members on Hyndburn council - who seem to want to squeeze as much money out of Hyndburn's council tax payers as they can. Maybe you could do a FOI on the cost of buffets for the Tory members of HBC.

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I'm by no means an expert claytonender, but thank-you for the complement.

The Conservatives voted against splitting banking regulation into three separate institutions which didn't talk to each other in 1997 long before the collapse of the banking system. They believed at the time and believe now that that power should remain with the Bank of England so that it can monitor banks and not allow them to over borrow, as used to do in the past. They also wouldn't have stored up debt and borrowing in the good times, allowing them to effectively tackle crisis like other nations have. In other words, they'd fix the roof while the sun was shining.

If banks had still failed, they wouldn't have failed so spectacularly under these measures. If they had of failed, of course they'd protected peoples savings. Bit of a silly question - another of your 'Labour did this; therefore the Conservatives wouldn't have' flawed logic.

Council tax has gone up in Hyndburn by half the national average under a Conservative administration. I'll leave you to FOI your colleagues buffets if you're that interested.

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I was not entering into an argument with you about how much Council Tax has risen in Hyndburn - but pointing out that the Tory administration are feathering their own pockets (and stomachs) at the expense of the Hyndburn Council Tax Payer.

The publication and distribution of the Area Management Calendars 2010 are another example of a waste of Council Tax Payer's money. I know that in the big scheme of things is is not a great deal of money, but it could have been better spent, especially in Rishton, where they are trying to implement Neighbourhood Management without any money being allocated from HBC, the £1977 spent for printing the calendars would have been more usefully spent.

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So that the ones of us that don't know (like me), please could you explain what these buffets are for and how frequent they appear?

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I wouldn't go down the feathering their own nest lines if I were you claytonender, you haven't been a councillor long enough, and there are those who DO remember when Labour were in power:rolleyes:

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There was an article about this in today's Telegraph. Wonder if they read it here first?

Anyway, the more I think about it the more I think that the Labour councillors are making a big deal out of nothing.

It is the duty of the council to make sure that everyone in the borough knows how to get hold of their councillors. The calendars are a relatively inexpensive method of doing this and I think that ALL councillors names and contact details should be on. By making a protest about this you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I know you're going to argue that you spent money out of your own pockets to send Christmas cards but that's one of the most pointless exercises - a Christmas card is guaranteed to be put in the recycling bag but at least a calendar might be put in a drawer. Plus, as we've pointed out many times, why should anyone who represents the council be out of pocket for doing work related to the council - why should you spend your pitiful council allowance on buying cards related to your council business?

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If the calendars are promotional maybe all ward Councillors details should be on them and they should not be able to opt out.

Should this be done by the main Council and not the Area Management boards?

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The Council already puts out a newspaper the Beacon which goes out to every house in the Borough at least twice a year. That's suppose to inform people of the various council services, telephone numbers etc.

It doesn't come cheap putting that paper out, so why is there a need for calendars.

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Ego-tripping, pure and simple. Funny how they don't have the bottle to come on here, where people might ask them real questions about local council policies. Much better to hide behind a posed picture. :rolleyes:

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Whats the point, taking questions from people living in Cheshire wynonie :rolleyes: or Canada, USA, Australia, India, and all point south, the only time Britcliffe has posted on here, replies had to be removed. Of regular users on here only a small percentage actually live here;)

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At last some one talking sense

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I always do, it's just that in the past you've been blinded by the colour of my rosette. :p

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There's also a large proportion of local people post on here who, I'm sure, would love to be able to ask their local councillors questions.

As for Councillor Britcliffe, he laid himself open to mickey-taking by posting in a curious third person style. Funny how other councillors like Bernard, Graham and Clayton Ender don't feel the need to do that? :rolleyes:

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I read it too.. the only reason it looks like shameless self promotion by the leading party is because the opposition have decided to completely withdraw from it. If all the councillors were involved it would be a much better informative calendar. As it stands residents are only getting half the information for the full cost.

Additionally to anyone in the know, what are these area management boards, how do you get on them and when are they? :)

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Well Bernard originally did. I find it curious that people that criticise Britcliffe for not coming on here don't e-mail, phone or speak to him in person about their query though. People make out as if they're not contactable because they don't post on Accringtonweb, yet I've never had a problem getting in contact. Only person I have had a problem with contact is Graham Jones in regards to my dissertation research.

Before Britcliffe came on Accringtonweb I used to say I wouldn't if I were him. When he did actually come all be it in third person, the usual suspects didn't care about welcoming him and asking questions or even adding advice that it'd be better if he just came on as himself, they were out to cause trouble, nothing more.

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Has anyone noticed the irony that I'm saying the 'Labour party are making a big deal out of nothing' and Andrew is saying that 'it looks like shameless self promotion by the leading party'? Funny! :D

Perhaps it's some parallel universe thing!!!! :D

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Seem to remember that Bernard originally posted on here under a pseudonym (some 19th century revolutionary bloke), which attracted a wave of critical posts (including mine). He shrugged it off, changed his user name and just carried on posting, as most people would.

As for emailing councillor Britcliffe, fine, but surely it would interesting to hear and debate his views on local and national political issues as indeed it would be to hear from other card-carrying Tories, councillors or otherwise. After all, he regularly makes his views known in the local press, but I suppose no one can argue back there. :rolleyes:

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more spin n crap yer getting quite good at it,:rolleyes: Perhaps if Britliffe had taken the trouble to "Introduce" Himself, the usual suspects would have welcomed him as they usually do? still bit difficult i suppose,grasping that fact.:rolleyes:

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I don't think Peter Britcliffe could ever post on here as himself without posts from others having to be removed often. It would be nice to think he could but for some unknown reason some people appear to really dislike him.

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well if ya don't know the reason mate, ya led a very sheltered life.:D

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Please enlighten me, it might be funny if nothing else.

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Having no real wish to be sued oer the festive season, sorry i must decline.:rofl38::rofl38: n plus i know what your game is.:D;)

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Tell me in person next time I see you.

Are you suggesting I am trying to cause trouble? :eek::rolleyes::D

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They already exit stage left when it comes to their useless government, if, god forbid they ever take control of HBC you wouldn't see them for dust:rolleyes:;)

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I know they do...it's a constantly-recurring theme of mine that there's a deafening silence from them when it comes to those awkward little questions like law & order, the EU and immigration. However, at least they have the bottle to come on here on the first place...and they don't disappear when people start criticizing them.

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Of course I received my calendar, fragrently hand delivered, but two rather anemic photographs was another bitter disappointment, especially after the twelve glorious images of Cllr. Britcliffe we were granted the other year.

(See linked thread for details.)

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...hly-18823.html

If H.B.C. are worried not every resident has details of how to contact the council, and their councillors, perhaps a calendar should be sent out with the council tax bills, which contained all the necessary contact details. It could even run April to April, like the tax year.

After all every household receives one, unlike the current calendar/Christmas card lottery system we seem to have at present.

The cost of posting need not increase. They could just send the bills and calendar, and dump all the bumph about how to pay your bill in three other languages besides English, since Hyndburn still happens to be in England, at least nominally.

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There's already quite a few ways in which the Council contacts people, without the need for calendars. Also more and more people are now on line of course, which helps.

In all the years on the Council, I cant recall many instances of people telling me that they didn't know how to contact the Council. Getting the Council to do something about the problem that they may be ringing up about, well that's a different point.

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The same could be said of the Christmas cards, which contain similar contact details. The only difference being the cards aren't funded from the public purse.

Personally I think the calendars are a complete waste of tax payer's hard earned cash.

Mine's ready to go into the recycling sack, and if I do need to contact my councillors in the coming year, I shall simply look up their easy to find details at the time.

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I contacted two members on here recently who happen to be councillors, just to say I appreciate their input on the forum. They were two people I hadn't had the need to pm before, and didn't really ask a question, so didn't need a reply, though good manners would usually illicit an acknowledgement of my missive.

Pig ignorant springs to mind.

Not naming names, but suffice to say one sports a blue rosette, and the other a red one.

Perhaps they might be more approachable come election time.

:rolleyes:

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As a body 'the council' might already contact people in many ways. In Hyndburn though I think our local politicians are shocking at contacting people. I can't recall very many occasions where I've received literature from district, or county councillors/candidates or our MP outside of election time. They're only interested around election time.

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The one with the Red rosette probably will Rindi:D