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Hi all, i work for Hyndburn council, and just letting you know, its closed due to the weather conditions for the rest of the week, all collections bins or recycling WONT be collected till monday at the earliest, hope this helps

Nev

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Thanks Nev ... our household waste hasn't been collected in Clayton again today ... so at least we know it's a trip to the tip then.

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Well if the bin wagon can't make it to the tip what chance has the Benimobile?:rolleyes::D:D

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ta fer letting us know, but through the ******* that organise things ours aint been emptied for 3 weeks.:( hope ya will take black bags as well?

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Great Harwood isn't too bad .... wouldn't risk Whinney Hill though, where I suspect most of the refuse wagons go ?

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Thanks for letting us know, I have the same question as Cashy. Will they take black bags too or will we get fined for fly tipping?

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Yes mine too hope they will take all the extra bags.

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Are the waste disposal centres open? I think they were closed yesterday.

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Thanks for letting us know, I hope you won't get into trouble with the powers that be, such information I would have thought would be passed from department to department on a 'need to know basis', You might just get summoned to head office after this enforced holiday.
:D

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I didn't know Great Harwood was a tip.Thanks for that.:D

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here in Blackburn we have been given purple bin bags to put our rubbish in, we have to put them at the side of our normal bins when they eventually come round to collect them, why can't they do that in Hyndburn?

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Thanks for letting us know.

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Because Purple is a colour reserved only for the King of a state.

Competition time.
karma to the first person to post a piccy of our King in his brand new clothes.

(Less walks away singing 'the King is in the altogether, the all together, the all together, as naked as the day that he was born).

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I did put up on another thread Sue that they were prepared to collect 2 extra bags of household waste on the first collection in the New Year .. mind you, this was before 'the troubles'.

Here it is again :-

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...use_Ad_web.pdf

However ... there is this announcement by Our Leader:

Severe weather conditions affect refuse / recycling collections

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Thats very kind of them collect an extra 4 bags as a one off. It annoys me when i think off the cost of the tax people pay.

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Thanks for letting us know. Have tried to find out throughout the day, but didn't really expect them to be collected.

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If I ever hear you saying anything good about the Council I will phone you a Doctor :p:D

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Cant remember saying that many bad things about them, did i remind me.

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:rolleyes:

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Thankyou Katex, I'm sorry I hadn't seen the other thread. :)

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me neither cheers kate.:)

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Can't wait for Garinda to come on and comment on Cllr. Britcliffe's statement .. he really ought to engage a new secretary. This last sentence had me running for the loo ..

"My advice if you have additional bags of rubbish because of a missed collection is to ensure that they are tied well and stored in a shed, outhouse or back yard until the services start again. Don't worry about food rotting in your bin or bin bags stored outside your property as the low temperatures will keep it cold or frozen".

.. maybe just me that sees the humour http://planetsmilies.net/grinning-smiley-9528.gif... http://planetsmilies.net/grinning-smiley-9528.gif

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I am with cashy on this ours was due to be emptied this friday it has now been 3 weeks our bin is now full.
so we have to wait till monday well i will have to put extra bags outside the bin just hope i dont get a fine for doing it

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Mick - This is the full text of the press release - (it says that they will accept 4 extra bin bags - which is not a lot if you have to go over 3 weeks between collections).

MEDIA RELEASE
06 January 2010
Page 1 of 1
For Immediate Release



Severe weather conditions affect refuse / recycling collections

Due to the adverse weather, Hyndburn Council has suspended all refuse / recycling collections for the rest of this week. This includes collections of trade waste.

Council Leader, Cllr Peter Britcliffe explained:

“The snow and icy weather conditions over the last week have affected all our waste collections and street cleansing services. We’ve have tried our best to collect refuse and recycling but unfortunately the weather has made it impossible to operate safely on the roads. Hyndburn is not alone in making the decision to suspend services, as other councils across Lancashire are also doing the same. We are planning to restart collections on Monday 11 January but hope residents understand that we can only collect if it is safe to do so”.

“We are asking those residents who presented containers this week but didn’t get them emptied, to take them back in and present them on their next scheduled collection. To help those residents who missed a collection, we will be taking away additional recycling and non recyclable waste on their next scheduled collection.”

“Please keep recycling and any items that can not fit into the blue box and sacks can be presented in carrier bags (not tied black sacks). For non-recyclable waste, residents are reminded that the lid of the grey bin must be closed for health and safety reasons and as a ‘off one’ residents will be permitted to present up to 4 extra sacks at the side of the grey bin”.

“My advice if you have additional bags of rubbish because of a missed collection is to ensure that they are tied well and stored in a shed, outhouse or back yard until the services start again. Don’t worry about food rotting in your bin or bin bags stored outside your property as the low temperatures will keep it cold or frozen”.

For more information about refuse and recycling collections in Hyndburn, call (01254) 388111 or email [email protected]

-Ends-

Note for Editors

Media Contacts Cathy Kierans- Senior Marketing and Communications Officer 380108

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Thats all well n good claytonender, but bags will have to go in our yard, which cats n the like will take great pleasure in ripping to shreds, whilst i accept this weather has made matters worse 3 weeks was not acceptable anyway to me.the service is crap.:mad: also if they start collecting next monday, god knows what day they will actually collect ours, so therefore the bins could be in the back wi those bags 4/5 days before collection, so please tell the ******* in charge this is NOT acceptable, i certainly will tomorrow.:mad::mad:

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I totally agree with you - some houses in my street haven't had their bins emptied for 4 weeks. They were due to be emptied on 23 December (but were not emptied until 29 December, and not everyone left their bins on their front gardens all that time). They were then due to be emptied 6 January, but weren't, so some of my neighbours have 4 weeks rubbish.

I have requested that councillors are given a revised collection schedule but not received an answer. I will pursue that tomorrow.

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wow its a good job there only running a district and not the bloody county iv never heard such a poxy excuse for shutting down the council what a bloody joke

im sorry but if i can get to blackburn,preston,rishton in these conditions in a poxy front wheel drive ford focus i dont see how these conditions shoudl be able to cripple our council

everyone else is managing to get to work infact my brother has been walking to work because its either work or dont get paid i bet the council lot are getting paid and its our money paying them.

oi britcliff if your reading this sack the arse that shut down the council because of bad weather were used to ass clown decisions down there but this is taking the pi$$ i wouldnt mind but this snow is sod all compared to the 70's and 80's and i dont recall teh country yet alone accrington been brought to its knees in much worse conditions

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my previous rant was base don the forst post in this thread which makes it sound like the whole council was going to be shut

still unacceptable the streets shoudl have been gritted

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ta claytonender.;) as fer accymans comment i totally agree its damn pathetic sending em home, i can honestly say i never missed a days work in me life through any weather conditions, n older ones will remember winters were much longer n harder in the 60s, i worked fer a while fer Rishton Urban council on the bins, when ya had to carry the metal bins n tip em yerself into the sides of the wagon, in all conditions.

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What happens if the conditions are no better next Monday. What happens them. I was going to ask if you knew who made this decision. But I suppose we know the answer to that question.

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well forecast i heard tonight was 7-10 days yet before were outa this weather, so lets see if smilers in the observer this week.:rolleyes:

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The last really bad winter, in 1963, meant there was snow from Christmas until Easter.

Since the Met Office say this cold snap is to last another two weeks at least, will refuge collections be discontinued until the weather gets better?

Will refunds be available for those who don't have collections?

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There are people who haven't had their bins emptied for weeks. And as you say who knows what the weather's going to be like for the next few weeks.

The thing that concerns me is that a decision has been made to suspend bin collections until Monday. Are we saying that it's impossible to collect from anywhere in the Borough at the moment. And also how do we know it's going to be any better by Monday. And if not what happens then.

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Let's be thankful we are only in a 'war against terrorism'.

If this was World War II, with today's leaders in charge, we'd have given up and surrendered by Christmas 1939.

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Do any of our councillor members know the percentage of the council tax that is spent on refuge collection?

If so it'll be easy for residents to work out how much to deduuct from their payements, for non-delivery of service.

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this shoudl get intersting if the clinical waste collection department is shut as well because a lady down teh road from me puts out around 3 large bags each week and if shes not been informed of this and the colection team is off as well which is based at teh same place as the bin men teh cats and dogs are going to have a second xmas :eek:

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Presumably all the men who would otherwise be emptying the bins are now out with shovels clearing the sidestreets and pavements from snow.

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hahahahahhaha you crack me up tealeaf its more likely they will be sat at home on full pay

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Maybe Accyman ... but I am sure most of them would prefer to be working. :p

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Our collection this week should have been the recycling, what happens next week? is it normal bins or do they re-start from where they finished?? IE next week will be our recycling :confused:

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went down town today .. and walked round to the post office ..and we saw four workmen clearing a path across the road from the post office .. i got the camera out .. they downed tools and walked off ... might have been going for their dinner though as it was 12.45 ...still took the pic though!!!:D

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They were clearing the footpaths by hand in Ossy this morning.

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I was told they were using shovels.

;):D

Since more heavy snow is being forecast, residents and businesses would probably have preferred them to have been emptying the bins, as their colleagues in Burnley have been doing this week.

If as the Met Office say, this cold snap could last for many more weeks, perhaps the saying about making hay whilst the sun shines, should be heeded, as it might be an age before refuse is now collected.

Freezing or not, that won't stop dogs, cats, and vermin ripping open the mountains of black sacks we are now begining to see on our streets.

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I was stood in a certain bakers waiting for my small ( they don't do large any more ) bacon sarnie when I saw them. I looked hard to break up as well. They even had some of that elusive grit in that back of the wagon.

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: ya missed yer way, the "Comedians" could have used ya.:D

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well thay havnt even collected clinical waste nor did they make people aware that they wernt going to be collecting it so if you see some yellow binliner sized bags out on yur travels give them a wide birth as they are full of pee , poop or even both , oh and in sonme cases blood sodden pads so heres hoping they dont get slung around teh streets by cats and dogs while teh concil decides to get off its arse and work



i wonder if poop and pee acts like gritt and this is what teh council were hoping for ?

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Our bin day and Recycling day should be on Friday this week should be bin day our bins have not been emptied for 4 weeks now i sent an e-mail to them thanks for the link Claytonender
so anyone that has there collection today forget it the next collections are


Thank you for your enquiry.

Your next refuse collection, weather depending will be on the 22nd of January. The next recycling collection, again weather depending will be on the 15th of January

so your going to have to wait another 2 weeks to have your bins emptied as its recycling bins next week:mad:

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You are actually correct. One of the recycling vans was on the car park of Scaitcliffe House this morning making sure it's load of grit was genorously applied to the staff car park and the path leading from the car park to the front door. If one bit of that grit gets on to the public footpath outside Scaitlcliffe House I reckon somebody will lose their job :rolleyes:

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I have just been speaking to Clare Pritchard about the situation, as Mick says if they do start collecting on Monday it will not be catching up on this week's missed collections.

They are still saying that only 4 black bags will be collected - which if you have not had your bins emptied for 6 weeks is ridiculous.

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Thats not what they are saying in there e-mail
here is the full reply:
NO MENTION OF HOW MANY BAGS WILL BE COLLECTED

Dear Mick

Thank you for your enquiry.

Your next refuse collection, weather depending will be on the 22nd of January. The next recycling collection, again weather depending will be on the 15th of January.

We understand some resident in the Borough have been without a collection now for up to six weeks, therefore we are allowing residents to present any extra bags next to the wheelie bin on the next refuse collection day.

Of you have missed a recycling collection day and have extra items to present you can do so by placing them in carrier bags separate as you would with the normal blue box and bags. We will not collect items put out in black bags.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, understandably the situation is out of our control.

If you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Services Help Line on 01254 399 988.

I hope this information is of use to you.


Kind Regards

Sophie Bibby
Customer Contact Centre Officer
Hyndburn Borough Council

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You could always make a phone call to Willows Lane and clear up if it is only 4 bags or not. If it is you could tell him what you think about that.

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I see we as a Council in this weeks Observer are stating that there as been "minimum disruption to council services this week".

I personally find that an amazing statement, when you consider that some people haven't had their bins emptied for Five weeks.

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if thats our Illustrious leader making that statement,then it will be correct, cos his "BullSh** is continuing as normal.:rolleyes:

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I hope as a Councillor of this Borough you will be telling the Council Officers in the relevant departments you are not happy with the service provided over the last few weeks and explain that some residents are also not happy.

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I think there getting that message from a lot of Councillors Neil.

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That was a non answer, you should be a politician :rolleyes:

Have you or have you not given your opinion or are you relying on other Councillors saying your residents are not happy?

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Both the Local Council, and the County have been made aware of what I think about what's been happening, or probably more to the point what's not been happening over the last couple of weeks.

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i went up haslingden today with spugs i treated him to deli butty .. anyway we saw 5 bin wagons out picking up peoples rubbish .. so how come rossendale can get their bin wagons out and hyndburns cant?

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Bernard on a county level, are contingency plans for severe weather conditions in place now and have they been in the past? By that I mean if weather conditions suddenly strike, like now, do they have plans to get additional grit at short notice?

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Don't think it matters andrew! if they send the lads home cos of severe weather.:rolleyes:

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So now the useless gits are saying Jan 22nd fer refuse weather depending, considering ours was last emptied Dec 19Th this is not just pathetic, but wholly unacceptable. n with the forecast 22nd aint looking certain.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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I think it does matter. If all the roads were gritted I doubt that people would be being sent home!

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You would hope they have Andrew. Although it would seem that there's a shortage of grit throughout the country. I've just read that there stopping gritting the hard shoulder on the motorways, in order to preserve grit.

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when they were sent home early this week, a shortage of grit hadn't been mentioned.:confused: the fact some main roads were not gritted then is down to rank bad leadership by whomever is responsible,in my book, this thread is about bins being emptied, the fact we have had a bout of severe weather is a side issue.

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I've no wish to appear pessimistic, but with the weather not looking to good for the weekend, the question arises will the bin men be back emptying bins on Monday. I suppose we will have to wait and see.

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Well there being a lack of grit was obviously why there are severe weather conditions preventing bins from being collected. Anyway fair enough this thread is about the bins being emptied, was just trying to see when this might be fixed rather than just being at mercy of the weather.

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its not pessimistic bernard its common sense, know were my money will be on a monday restart.:rolleyes:

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know ya are, but these ******* will just use weather as n excuse fer rank incompetance.:)

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Well they can't use it as an excuse if there wasn't a plan in place. Which is why I asked.. but never mind.

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there already using it, if ya read e-mail they sent mick.;)

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That doesn't explain my question though. Obviously the county council had grit in stock, it's Winter after all. We've had the worst winter in what, 50 years, and it looks like the grit stocks have been caught out by this, thus the plan is to grit only certain roads. This has prevented the bin men from getting to houses, and plan is in place to deal with that.

My question is, is there a plan in place to get additional grit at short notice in case of unexpected severe conditions like this? As I see it we would be getting bins collected if such a plan was in place as there would be enough grit to go around all streets not just main routes.

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Just heard on the news that the government has told ALL councils to reduce their gritting by 25% in order to conserve grit.

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didnt know Bernard was a county councillor as well as a borough councillor ... :rolleyes:

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Was just asking as he might have known! Gee..

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if teh council are saying this they are damn liars weve had much much much much worse than this in teh last 20 years never mind teh last 50 and schools stayed open, buses ran and roads were cleared and most importantly of all bins were emptied

maybe teh problem is they cant drag the wheelie bins with teh tiny wheels they have unlike the old days when bins were lifted and carried to teh binwaggon as it drove along the alley

soft arse rules and regulations are to blame not teh weather

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It's only 11 months ago since it last snowed heavily.

Then we had some numpties keeping away from work and schools, saying it was a 'once in a lifetime experience'.

Absolute rubbish.

We live in the northern part of the hemisphere, and have a maritime climate, which means that we may have a few years of wet and mild winters, but it's also likely we will have freezing cold ones, that are accompanied by snow and ice.

Other countries manage perfectly well, just as we coped much better in the past, without resorting to disrupting pupil's education, and leaving the streets full of rubbish, which they are now.

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Andrew my point is simple but as you have not commented on it, ya must not have managed to grasp it! before this weather even hit us 3/4 weeks between bins being emptied is UNACCEPTABLE.:(

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It showed on tonight's B.B.C. news Rossendale Council's office workers, and the Council Leader, out on the streets, helping the refuge collectors clearing the streets of the mounting rubbish.

That seems much more pro-active approach, rather than sitting on your arse in a warm office, giving up, and not even attempting to address the problem.

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Yep watched it, was also other councils Bolton i think n others are making efforts to catch up this weekend etc, ours do sod all.:(

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kill 2 birds with one stone , throw the rubbish into teh road and burn it , rubbish gone and ice melted

also the ash and embers will act as grit for any ice left over


people are manageing to getto the tip in cars so why on earh a huge bin waggon with great bug thumping tyres cant get the job done i dont know and im pretty sure snowchains could be bought and fitted to binwaggons infact i woudl be surprised if tehre wasnt a few sets knocking around teh bin yard somewhere.

im looking fo a career change give me the job of sending out binwaggons i will think of allsorts and none of teh ideas will involve cancelling services just done expect friendly memmos between my department and teh rest of teh council its not what i do lol

also be preppared to throw european work law out the window its teh only way anything will ever get done propperly

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Weel done, another non answer.

It was a simple yes or no question,here it is?

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Of course I have yes.

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From Rossendale Online:

A big push is underway in Rossendale to clear the backlog of rubbish that has been building up since normal collections were disrupted by the big freeze.

Office based staff at the Council have been volunteering to go out and pull wheelie bins from people homes to the streets where refuse vehicles have been able to reach.

Full article here:Big push to clear Rossendale's Rubbish. - Rossendale Online

What chance HBC office staff volunteering?

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Don't let these politicians get away with anything.:D:D

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Are we allowed to put negative percentages or stick at 0 ?

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I am sure there are a few that might want to get out of the office for some fresh air :rolleyes::D

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:( We have the same problem over here in clitheroe its a disgrace if your bins arnt on the side of the main road forget it:(,as in accrington the side roads are covered in thick snow and ice and no grit to put on them .Although today the ribble councils work men have been clearing the footpaths in the town centre!not before time either:rolleyes:

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but is it oer 3 weeks since yer bins were emptied mab?:confused:

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I have in my time seen council workers clearing snow and tipping it into the river by Bull Bridge, also gritting from a flat wagon throwing the grit by hand. And I seem to remember, from one of the old bin collecting wagons that could not have been ideal but was put into service. Are they doing this now?

I am a carer for my wife and we have care workers come to help out, all of them are great and struggle round in normal cars and walk if needed to ensure that people are not left unfed etc, they have not been sent home!

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At least in Clitheroe, the Council has made an effort over the last few days to empty some bins. I notice in Rossendale they also have made an effort to empty some of their bins

This is after being told by the leader of the Council in he's press release that other East Lancs Authorities where suspending bin collections. Clearly not the case.

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The trouble is nobody round this area apart from members of accyweb know the collection has been suspended and most of the bins are out back waiting to be emptied
you would have thought the council would have at least sent someone round with a flyer to let people know.:mad:
we get plenty of junk mail even in this weather:mad:

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That's true Mick. There was a press release,but not everyone gets the Telegraph or the Observer. It's on the Councils website,but again not everyone as access to the Internet.

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on my way into accy today i noticed many backalleys wi Full Wheely Bins n Plastic bags out, now the bin men are back at work, just makes me wonder if "New Lane" rubbish has been already collected?:rolleyes::D

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Just heard that some wheelies have been emptied round Church Kirk but most have not...no one appeared to know they were coming. Regular collection day is friday.

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Well Church Kirk would be on the way to Whinney Hill Tip, if yer coming from New Lane.:D:eek:

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Wheelie Bins not collected in New Lane i live on it and mine is still here so is the recycling
Hope that answers your question .

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cheers bondi38, not the answer i hoped fer but ta anyway.:D;)

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Bins still not emptied in this area.

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everyones put there bins out where i live as well as extra binbags and they havnt turned up and now thanx to the local verminous creatures known to some as cats the place looks a right sh1t hole

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I have received these two updates today about collections -

1) Received at 10.53 am

Good morning to all,

Monday 11 January

It is with regret that the weather has got the better of us once again and we are not able to deploy a full collection service. However, we have sent out the following teams to collect from the main roads on Monday's collection areas where possible;

1 Refuse vehicle
1 Recycling vehicle
1 Cardboard vehicle
Textiles vehicle

Remaining staff are going round clearing footpaths in the following areas;

Oswaldtwistle
Baxenden
Great Harwood
Clayton Le Moors
Rishton

Weather permitting we are planning a full collection service tomorrow, so residents should continue to present their containers.

I will provide an update first this in the morning as to what has been deployed.

2) Received at 3.42pm
Good afternoon to all,

Due to the continuing improvements in the weather conditions the message to all residents from today is to leave your grey bin / extra bags out, as we may be round your area (North) catching up on missed collections. However, recycling collections are only taking place as per the calendar (we do not intend to deploy catch up crews).

On Tuesday 12 January We are proposing to deploy the following resources;

Full refuse and recycling crews to Tuesday's collection areas (Recycling North and Non recycling South).

3 Refuse crews pulling back collections that we were not able to reach on Monday 11th and those areas missed in the North from last week. These crews will continue to catch up areas we missed and will take the majority of this week.

1 crew collecting trade recycling i.e. collecting card and paper (would normally be 2 crews so may not collect from every property).

1 crew starting to collect Xmas trees from areas around the Borough.

1 crew emptying litter bins.

In order to concentrate our resources on pulling back non recyclable waste (and bearing in mind there is not likely to be much green waste generated in these conditions) we have taken the decision to cancel the green waste collection that was due. Residents should take their green bin back in and present it on the 26th January - we will keep all requests for the 12th and add to those requesting a service for the 26th.

The situation regarding pickups is as before i.e. until further notice we will not be logging any requests into our system.

Hope this is of use and I will be doing a resident guide that can be posted on to the website.

If you look on Hyndburn's website you will find out whether you are on the North or South collection rotas. For anyone living in Church they are on a North collection rota.

I will keep you updated when I get more information.

Joan