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Graham Jones: Tories to select Hyndburn on 13 March. Some links might not work on AccWeb with cut and paste

John Barker – local resident? or district councillor for somewhere unknown?

Karen Buckley – Fylde councillor
Karen Buckley's Blog ST. LEONARD'S WARD CONSERVATIVES
Karen stood at the last Lancashire County Council Election in St Annes North which the Liberal Democrats gain from Conservatives. She was not selected for the final list at Fylde. Karen has tried to be the Conservative Parliamentary candidate for Stretford and Urmston before Hyndburn.
St Annes North - Lib Deb Gain from Con Lancashire County Council: Elections

Paul Carter (not sure if the same Paul Carter who is leader of Kent County Council)
Google Search for Paul Carter Google
Spat with Boris Johnson where Cllr Carter wanted information suppressed before the elections. Latest news, comment and reviews from the Guardian | guardian.co.uk
Paul Carter Leaders Blog http://www.kent.gov.uk/leaders_blog

John Moss – Stood in Hackney S & Shoreditch in 2005. Tried to stand in Gosport in November 2009. Opposed to social housing.
John Moss on ConHome Google
Controversially... John Moss argues that the best way to reduce abortions is to stop providing them for free on the NHS ConservativeHome's Platform: John Moss

Mary Robinson – South Ribble councillor
Tried to stand for the Conservatives in Chorley (twice), Barrow-in-Furness, Fylde, Rossendale & Darwen and now Hyndburn.
Mary Robinson on ConHome Google

Janet Storey – backbench Hyndburn councillor
Councillors - Janet Storey

The Hyndburn thread on ConHome
ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog: Final six for Hyndburn

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Blimey.

I only checked on their site yesterday.

Looks like someone's had their hat thrown back out of the ring.

So Cllr. Storey's the only local candidate.

Well blow me.

Wonder if certain people will be tearing up their membership cards?

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Is there not a smiley of someone dancing a little jig, Graham?

:rolleyes::D

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I hope after the 13th the British Legion will hold the official hustings which have been delayed since January.

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I hope it's not the same Mr. Moss who was the drummer in Culture Club, and Boy George's man whore.

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Lol, Karen Buckley is reading this thread!

Welcome Karen.

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Perhaps all the other candidates will join AW, to say hello, and let us get to know them.

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While I'll go to the foot of our stairs. No Peter,That is a surprise.

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i thought one of the ex mayors might of been in there.:D

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I am sure it will keep me busy if they do :D

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Janet Storey is an ex Mayor - she was Mayor in 2005 to 2006

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Well the bookies will now be giving even better odds on the local boy securing the seat.

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Well with that list i think we now know how highly Hyndburn is regarded in the upper echelons of the Tory Party!!

Best Regards - Taggy

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They probably don't know where it is, we really should rebrand ourselves with a nice new catchy name.

Has anyone got any idea for a new name for Hyndburn?

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St. Petersburg-on-Stink.

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Well one London toff up for selection, who lists skiing as his interest, probably thinks we're a swish ski resort, after all the bad weather up here.

Blogger: User Profile: John Moss

He might go off piste, when he realises it's not.

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John Moss so, on the Andrew Niell show we have Michael Portillo, Dianne Abbott, Rory Bremner and Armando Iannuci talking about Blair and the Iraq inquiry. Two effin comedians - and Rory Bremner and Armando Iannuci!
January 28 at 11:54pm

Not too keen on Portillo, is he!

(I asterixed the foul language, for the sake of decency, even though an innocent child could read the original, if they followed the link from his blog.)

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(Goes off to check the lovely photographs of him skiing in swanky La Vanoise, before he changes his security settings on Facebook.)

:D

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Maybe he should have a look at this site Click Clever, Click Safe : Directgov :D:D:D

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The only time Cllr. Storey's head's risen above the Accy Web parapet, was when arch Conservative Acrylic-bob, gave her hairdresser a dressing down, when she was Mayor.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ing-11586.html

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"arch" dearheart, "arch"?? If the fat frump gets the selection I shall be changing my political affiliation. Why can we not have someone who is at least interesting. I am getting heartily sick and tired of all the achingly worthy and desperately unctious placemen we have been saddled with as MP over the last forty odd years.

Times are changing and it is high time that the usual suspects 'upped' their game.

Since I am here I may as well announce my predictions for the coming Westminster cat fight. It will be a hung parliament with a slim majority for the consevatives. Cameron, if he survives, will be forced to go to the country again in the autumn with a radically different manifesto in which you may expect some reference to an EU referendum and a radical overhaul of the voting system. Of course the prospect of National Bankruptcy will loom even closer by the autumn. So those of you who are hoping that a vote for New Labour will stave off the inevitable are merely indulging in Brown's delusions and will effectively make a dire situation even worse.

I recall the ancient Chinese saying; "May you be cursed to live in interesting times". The next few years, thanks to New Labour, are certainly going to be that, and more!

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

I just saw you were online, reading this thread, and knew you'd pick up on 'arch', so quickly checked all it's meanings, and was happy to see it can mean 'mischievous and roguish', as well as chief, which I hope you'll settle for.

:D

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John Moss is interesting. Believes abortion shouldn't free on the NHS, Council house rents should be raised to private sector levels (£64 to £95 in Hyndburn) amongst a general attack on social housing (Clearly hasn't seen private rented sector in Hyndburn yet). Council housing creates slum estates and unemployment now is higher than ever before and seems to say it is Labour lies why the press aren't picking up on this fact. He also seems to have a swipe against global warming regarding sea levels.

I'll give Peter Britcliffe credit. He was spot on when he said he believed the scientists were right and we should act now. He said to the doubters a simple message, why take a chance when we are heading towards an energy crises anyway. There is little harm in being safe and wrong. There is a lot wrong with being wreckless and wrong.

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I am flattered you should have taken the trouble to check. I quite like 'roguish.

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Dear me, Cllr Jones, are you still at it? It beats me how a chap with your obvious intelligence can still spout the party line with a straight face. And no, the idiot-in-chief did not get it right. There is plenty of harm in being safe and wrong. The priciple harm will be to the economy; you know, the goose that lays the golden egg, that enables socialist politicians to go on spending without a care for the size of the bill or who has to foot it.

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Socialist politicans?

I'd forgotten about them.

Seems like another, more innocent age.

The leader of the Labour party wearing a donkey jacket.

The Flying Pickets topping the popular music charts.

Major political parties that weren't both scrapping in a centralist scrum, for the votes of middle and Little Englanders.

Halcyon days

:rolleyes:

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Well, well.

Karen Buckley's read this thread, and now John Moss is reading it as I type.

Welcome John.

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If only the Conservative party had got their act together, and we didn't have to wait until March 13th, we could be entering into a meaningful dialogue with the chosen candidate, which we've been able to do with the other party's candidates for the last few months.

Not long to go now....fingers crossed.

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Better get my 3 month holiday booked to avoid all the bull then :D

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Oh we know you love it really.

Since two of the candidates have already joined Accy Web, why don't you start a poll?

We could cut through the bull on here, and thus make the selection process easier for the local Conservative members, and to arrive more quickly at the decision as to who is their best candidate is.

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He might be intresting to you Graham, but certainly ain't to me, I had a letter from CCO on Friday saying they had taken over the section process, in return they're getting a letter from me telling them where to stick the Party, so rest assured your one vote better off now, as I won't be suportin any candidate imposed on us including Mrs Story, you asked me if my promises to resign if a candidates list was imposted on Hyndburn was cast iron, now you'v got your answer.

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I don't want to thread drift. The economics of greenness are as you say uneconomic on the face of it. So it will impact as the debate has stood so far.

However there are other costs not being debated. The hidden costs of nuclear and dealing with radioactive material. The cost of the National Grid. That energy is lost in long transmission of electricity and there is an informed view that local grids produce cheaper electricity (but we do not have local grids I know).

Back on thread. Welcome Karen, welcome John. I look forward to seeing the winner at the British Legion hustings.

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I know you must be disappointed, but I admire your stance as a man of principle, and doing what you said you'd do.

Whoever is selected will now have a harder journey if local people, who've devoted much of their lives to politics, aren't there to assist them.

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Wasn't a matter of the CP getting it act together, it was CCO playing sily begers, how somebody sat in a London office knows what kind of candidate is needed here is beyond me. I wrote to Party Chairman Eric Pickles in Jan regarding the subject, the reply I got was abismal to say the least. I only hope whoever gets the nomination has plenty of outside help as they'll be getting nothing from local members who have been stitched up:(

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We may have had our differences but I would encourage you to rejoin. The Conservative Party needs you (and not in a desperate sense but an honest one).

I may disagree with Conservatism most of the time but unlike non voters and everything is wrong (but I'm doing nothing about it) political heretics, Conservatives are passionate about the place they live and that is a positive thing.

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A political type who keeps his word. Respect to you, John. Karma sent.

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I agree.

It would have been a much closer battle, two locals, the leader of the couuncil going head to head with the leader of the opposition.

Going against the grass root support doesn't seem very democratic.

You might not believe me, but I am disappointed for you.

A well known local candidate will have a major advantage, rather than someone shipped in from outside, who doesn't understand the area, or it's people.

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Politics is about working together within the party system Graham which I'm sure I don't need to tell you, but when people based 230miles away won't listen to local knowledge, its time to jack it in, I've been an active party member since I was 16 and at 63 and in very poor health I think its time to call it a day, when the party stops listening its time to say goodbye

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I'm sorry to keep labouring the point (pun noticed but ignored), but I really do think that while a local candidate might keep the more inbred "he might be useless but, at least he's one of our own" faction mollified. it does nothing for the borough if said local candidate just sits on the backbenches and does what Greg Pope and his predecessors have done for the last forty odd years. We need someone with a bit of umph and, dare I say it, personality. Someone who stands out and through whom the borough can get itself noticed. Currently the rest of the country is only aware of Accrington as the home of the 'Pals' and the bricks, in case no one has noticed, the 'Pals' are all dead and so is the brickworks.

And I'm sorry but, even though Ms Storey might be quite a nice person really, do we really want to project an image of the borough that is parochial, overweight and style challenged???

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You'd prefer a more high profile politican, someone like Jack Straw?

Personally I'd be happy for whoever it is to be working hard for the people of the borough, period, and it doesn't necessarily follow that a cabinet minister would do that any better than a back bencher. Indeed they might have less time to work on behalf of the borough.

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I totally agree with you Rindi, sod the career politicians, who only want miniserial jobs then leave the office staff to do their constituency work, doesn't fly with me

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I was thinking of someone more along the lines of Lily Savage actually, but no matter, Although I do not agree with the concept of of the odious Mr Straw at least everyone knows the name of his constituency. It is well known all over the place, from here to Islamabad, especially Islamabad.

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Thats not through the forgtable Mr Straw Bob, its because of Blackburn Rovers:D

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Would I want Jack Straw representing me, just because he's held high office? The man who three times on the Nick Griffin Question Time, refused to give an answer, when asked if his party's policies had any affect on the increased membership of the B.N.P.

No.

Front bench, back bench, I don't care, just as they're working hard for the people who elected them to office.

I don't vote for someone to publicise the area. Sometimes to the detriment of a constituency, in the case of Jack Straw.

If you desire greater and better publicity, engage a public relations expert. That's not the prime job of a M.P.

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Oh come on rindy, what else are they any use for, except entertainment and a bit of self-righteous tut-tutting when they overstep the mark? Lets face it Blair and Brown have sold our democracy to their masters in Brussels. Anything we do from now on is merely play acting and window dressing. And if you imagine that Cameron will rock the boat in that direction you are fooling yourself. So, the only question you have to ask is do I want to be represented by some overweight old trout or do I choose someone with a bit of fizz?

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"Front bench, back bench, I don't care, just as they're working hard for the people who elected them to office."

For heavens sake, nine tenths of the current crop wouldn't recognise hard work if it jumped up and gave them a P45, and I do not expect the next intake to be any different.

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The same thing could have happened to us in the Labour Party in Hyndburn. But the feeling amongst the local membership was overwhelmingly, that we wanted a strong local candidate.

And needlessly to say we feel we have got that in Graham.

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From two hard working people I'm friends with from here, they are very happy with the hard work Cllr. Jones does for the people he currently represents in their ward.

There's got to be some hope that there'll be a brighter future, otherwise the only alternative is anarchy....and when you get to a certain age, a ripped and pinned t-shirt isn't very flattering.

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Without wishing to thread-wander too much, that is possibly the most erroneous statement I've ever read on here. ;)

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Since I have no interest in football I omitted Accrington Stanley from the list. It was never meant to be exhaustive, merely indicative. Do forgive me.

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Alright, I'll let you off, Bob, but next time you're in another part of the country, tell someone you're from Accrington and see what they say! :)

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Wynonie, after having lived in Crewe, Barnsley, London, Amsterdam, Paris, and Vienna I think I can say with a degree of certainty that I have never met anyone who has been aware of Accrington or been able to point to it on a map. Perhaps I mix with the wrong sort?

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I think CCO have made a mistake. They don't appear to understand the local area at all.

However, I do think we need to give the candidates at least a chance to talk to the people before we condemn them. You never know, there might be someone in there who is perfect for us.

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I would love to hear what the other candidates have to say for themselves, I expect it will be the usual trite and blindingly obvious drivel but, as you say, there may be one who shines a little less dully than the others. You will, of course, pardon me if I don't hold my breath in expectation.

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perhaps ya do bob, i also have lived in many places n countries, n can honestly say when conversing wi most british people who ask were ya from, most have said "Stanley" after i said accrington.:confused:

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Clearly I have been mixing with the wrong sort.

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Dunno mate, all i can say is had a bar abroad fer a few years,was certainly not a sports bar, n most customers natter wi the landlord.

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On Thursday last week I was in a taxi cab in Torquay....driven by a Glaswegian driver who looked tough enough to eat girders....he asked me where I was from......I told him Accrington(Hyndburn doesn't cut it at all) his face broke into a wide grin and he told me that he effing well loved Accrington Stanley...then excused himself for his bad language.
He said after his own favourite team(can't remember who they were now) his second best team was Accy Stanley.
So the football team are one of the things that put Accrington on the map....mainly because of the milk advert.

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Then perhaps we would be better advised in electing the football team to Parliament. At least they don't try to work the system to their benefit...oh hang on they do though don't they. Oh well another idea on the scrap heap.

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That's what we wanted but the dickheads in London are useless, they may know whats right for a leafy Surrey Suburb, but Hyndburn (they can't even say the name right I always got Hindburn when I rang CCO) they ain't got a clue

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Gayle I've seen quite enough place people on short list from CCO to last another lifetime and believe me I wouldn't give 90% of them house room never mind a seat in parliament;)

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I know I'm going to get my hands slapped quite soon for slightly hijacking this thread, but no, they don't. They are now debt free and are the most positive thing this borough has going for it in terms of national publicity at this moment in time. I also have lived in other places around the country and travelled abroad and like Cashy whenever I say "Accrington", back comes the inevitable reply, "Stanley!" :)

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I wasn't referring to the Clubs indebtedness, though that was scandalous enough, but to the shameful conduct of players betting against their own club, that was Stanley players wasn't it. I do stand to be corrected if it wasn't, as I said I take no interest in football.

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It was indeed, but the players concerned have gone now. We also have a new chairman, Ilyas Khan, an Accy-born lad who is a real credit to this borough. We could do with a few more like him! :)

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Only the men though Cashy .. not the women, and they are ? percentage of the population. When I have been travelling, or on the 'phone, can't remember once getting this reaction from a woman. The women were more interested in Oswaldtwistle ... querying the origin of this odd sounding town name ... :D Was great for breaking the ice on a sales call.

I still believe the Tories are doing the correct move by offering outsiders. I would not vote for Janet Storey (just summat put me off her) and who else in the Hyndburn Tory camp is fit to do the job without losing votes due to the fact that they are not popular away from the cocoon of their wards ? They need someone with a great personality, credible that they will do their best for us and a decent track record. Businesses appoint M.D's that have no experience of the industry they are invited into, and make a damn good job.

The Conservatives will just have to play on the fact that lots of people may just be (insert your own expletive) at the present Government.

As said before, Graham Jones was the best choice for Labour due to the fact he is popular with a good majority of voters outside his Peel Park ward .. me included.

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In my opinion its the people that make our communities what they are not the type of houses.

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Not so sure about that Neil. Have never lived in rented accommodation so difficult to comment with any real knowledge, however, seems to me that the landlords play a big part in this, not keeping their properties up to spec. and ignoring clients pleas for repairs .. was horrified to read MargaretR's rundown on the problems she is having in her flat .. :(

Slums are just that .. properties that are rotting for want of repair and modernisation.

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Great news for Graham I would have thought, give us a shout when you want some leafleting doing!:mosher:

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Remind me next time I see you and we can discuss it so we wont be off thread here.

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Your best put down up to date Neil ... :rolleyes:

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in the main yes the men, though my first ever customer was a woman from clayton/accy n she did say it, but ya must concede that most who enter bars are men or couples n its always the man who comes fer the drinks to the bar, women being natural spongers.:D

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You're 100% right there, Cashy. Have you ever wondered, why, in the old days, you had men only bars in the pubs and clubs but you never, ever, saw a women only bar? Why? Because there was no point, that's why...it would just have been a total waste of space..they would have bought nowt and would just have sat there doing nowt other than indulge in their usual inane natter.
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Nah Cashy .. you've got it wrong .. their women these days will have slipped them a tenner to go there. ;)

There's definitely a sexist theme running through these threads today ... has someone put summat in the water (or the beer) ??

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if thats the case please explain this theory to paris next time ya see her.:rolleyes:

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If only, Katex...everytime I suggest to Mrs H that she might like to get her hand in her pocket and get a round in, I'm firmly but politely told: "I'm like the Queen - I never carry any money." :rolleyes:

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perhaps these women who do this are of the doormat genre?:confused: or perhaps ugly n only way to get a fella. pmsl.

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So Cashy ... you are calling Paris a sponger then ? You're good lady too Wynonie ?

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Nope...just tight. ;)

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Certainly not wouldn't expect a lady of mine to pay.:p but shes never offered.

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last time i was in the railway .. i gave mick the money to go to the bar and get a round in .. and had to threaten him to get my change ..:D:D:D :p:p:p

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by the way wheres andrew b .. whats his take on the selections ..

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Seems to have done a "Del Shannon":D

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My dad had a catch phrase-
"give us yur money - I never like to see a woman pay"

I always preferred 'going Dutch' - It meant that you could dump a chap at any time without him feeling aggrieved.

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never felt aggrieved at being dumped, was always their loss.:tongueout

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He's made a tactical withdrawal due to Labours incessant bullying, which seems to be a common trait with them these days, from the very top to the bottom:D

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I am sure he is not that soft and has other things he needs to be doing with his spare time.

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To my knowledge I haven't bullied anyone- I have disagreed with Andrew on many occasions. However I can mention several occasions when Conservatives have bullied (and tried to intimidate) people in public.

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neither has Gordon but he would say that wouldn't he;)

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I stand by my first statement Neil, 100%;)

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Fair enough then yer saying hes a tart.:rolleyes:

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If you're going to play with matches, you shouldn't be too suprised if you get your fingers burnt.

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No not at all cashy, he's just not as thick skinned as me, I don't give a toss these days, but I'm sure it doesn't show:rolleyes:

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well were both entitled to our take on this.:D

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Is that a joke...he can't really be such a big girl's blouse...can he? :D

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Well when you think of the fearful stick he used to get, always remembering there aren't to many committed Tories on here Wyn, there's only one now, and he's not happy, can you blame the lad, as I've said I'm thick skinned and when in the mood will slug it out with anybody (but these days are rather rare now, waking up in a morning is more important at the moment:D) When you consider the likes of cashy ear bashing him every day, Me I'd just have thrown him a smiley and told him to get stuffed, but Andy took it to heart, but he'll be back I've no doubt about that, just when I don't know

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thats bull, i have disagreed wi most people on here on various things, i just say as i see, if people can't take it, they are "Tarts" in my book. its not as though he don't know me, i don't hide behind me computer like some do.

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I only used you cashy because I knew you were on line and I'd get a reaction:D Andrew is a sensitive young lad, but in a few years time he'll be like a rottie with a bone he's ripped of human body, then look out:D:D

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You're jesting me now, mate. He really gets upset about Cashy calling him Tory scum and suchlike? That's just Cashy being playful! ;)

If he wants a career in politics, he's going to have to toughen up fast, because he'll get much worse than that!

He ought to stick by my virtual philosophy - "it's just words on a computer screen, it's not real life!". :D

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He always tried to give as good as he got and often stuck to his guns even though he knew he was talking bollards, but he would also put himself in that position deliberately knowing exactly the sort of reaction he would get when he started some of his Ripleys' Believe it or not threads.

Will you please promise me you will never, ever, ever, say that sort of thing again?

It's hard enough me trying to use this as my form of reality without you trying to burst my bubble!
http://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s9658.gif

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Well, it can't possibly be real, as characters like Mancie and Blazey would be just too unbelievable to exist in real life, but, OK, I'll go along with your illusion.

Incidentally, I like your name for Andrew's classic efforts - his Ripley's Believe It Or Not threads :D Sums 'em up perfectly really!