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The England flag will be flying proud at Rishton Towers and I'm hosting a special England quiz night as I do every year but how is everyone else planning to celebrate?

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be carefull flying the england flag in england upsets some folk infact some consider it to be an act of racism :rolleyes:

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I know, consider it an act of rebellion!

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i think that now falls under terrorism..

off to jail you go :D

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: from a would be member of Gordons new model army:D:D

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I'll be at Westminster chained to the railings burning my macaroons and Earl Grey if I'm ever ordered to take down my England flag on the grounds of racism.

I can see the headlines now.....

'RISHTON TERRORIST ARRESTED IN RACISM PLOT'
A Lancashire man was arrested today after police raided his kitchen and found materials that are known components of potentially dangerous objects known locally as 'Eccles Cakes'. Ken Moss, 32, of Rishton in Hyndburn was defiant as he was dragged away and insisted that the cakes were for personal consumption. His wife, who cannot be named for legal reasons, broke down in tears and was released on bail following her arrest for aiding and abetting terrorist activity in the UK.
It is understood by Metropolitan Police that the Eccles Cakes were due to be 'baked for England' on 23rd April for St George's Day. The move is believed to have been racially motivated and has been condemned by government officials. The trial continues.

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why is she under 18 lol ?

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I'll be enjoying my usual St. George's day celebratory treat, dragon pie.

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will you be chasing teh dragon or will somone be catching it for you :eek:

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Huh, cheap imports from Yorkshire flooding the market again!

Why can't we have something really English like Chorley cakes?

:D

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I have a pantry full, already slain.

Much more palatable if they're hung, prior to going in a pie.

;)

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or a hollands pie.

nah scratch that idea let the folk outside of accrington who dont know any better eat them :D

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Well hung, one presumes.

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I stand corrected in my choice of patisserie....

My wife bakes the most amazing Chorley cakes I've ever had and her Eccles cakes are out of this world. Little wonder I've put on 3st since meeting her!

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I give the dragon's equivalent of a pork scratching to the dog, the day after St. George's day.

All gristle, and very little meat.

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Nice pint of Bombardier or three and a fry up.

Any other ale drinkers on Accyweb?

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Used to be Ken but I've retired:D

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It can only possibly be through health reasons so you have my deepest sympathies, John.

Best not to regale you with delightful stories of beautiful Moorhouses ales, fresh from the pump at the end of a summer's day then....?

I know it's 'Dingle Beer' but they've got a cracking brewery up there and no mistake.

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They have to get smething right Ken haven't had much luck with the footy, :D

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If you want to avoid the hassle, take a little trip to the great province of Newfoundland and Labrador, where St. George's Day is a provincial holiday:mosher: Have a feast of seal flipper pie ... wash it down with screech or swish ... pop round to Dildoe and have a few beers with the folks there .... :D

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Yes it must make your eyes and mouth water at the very thought:D

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We're a week off our annual excuse to be patriotic and it's on a Friday too. Let's make something of it this year.

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If we didn't have so many people interfering with our lives we wouldn't have to rely on 1 Day in a year when we could have an "excuse" to be patriotic about being English !! :(

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Well said, Dave.

I vote we forget the PC nonsense and just all traipse off down the pub!

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do you prefere a well hung dragon on st georges day :egged:

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Will be having our usual St Georges party at the club house, flags flying, ale flowing, war songs belted out and roast beef and y------- pud wi aple pie and custard!!! Grand.

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Like jaysay i also have sadly retired, probably payback fer past sins.:D

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Oh the pain the pain:D

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Surely it should be Lancashire Hot Pot - then you don't need any foreign muck with it.:D

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Seal Flipper Pie tastes a lot like hot pot ... well, it does if you are drunk enough:D And it's not foreign .... it's from Newfoundland.:theband:

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Why does the dragon have to be male.:confused:

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I agree Eric, the Dragon is female, as in George and the Dragon, my mate was called George and his wife was the:hidewall::hidewall: :D

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I'll allow puddings from over the border just this once to compliment our national dish, we've got 27th November for hotpot on Lancashire Day.

Is there a Yorkshire Day? Oh yes, but as theirs has been running since 1975 and ours has been running since 1295 I'd say that battle is pretty much ours.

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i wonder if this flag is going to be replaced .. was in town today with someone who lives in hassy and she said isnt it a pity they havent replaced that flag ..

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I think not, sadly the state of the Flag rather resembles the state of the Country, battered, worn away, tattered & on its last legs & it seems that nobody really cares !

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no problem, they'll just put a Green n White un up.:D:rolleyes:

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'Saint' George was born in eastern Turkey and enlisted in the Roman army.
He achieved sainthood for refusing to relinquish the christian faith when tortured.

I am not christian, Turkish or Roman, so consider him totally irrelevant to the celebration of -
our National Day

just leave out this religious mumbojumbo:rolleyes:

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So what would you like it to be called - National Day? That soon becomes National Socialist Day as for the next few weeks we have a Socialist Government. The next step is National Socialist - remember them - Nazis?

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na·tion·al (nsh-nl, nshnl)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or belonging to a nation as an organized whole: a national anthem.
2. Of or relating to nationality: their national origin.
3. Characteristic of or peculiar to the people of a nation: a national trait.
4. Of or maintained by the government of a nation: a national landmark.
5. Being in the interest of one's own nation: Isolationism is a strictly national policy.
6. Devoted to one's own nation or its interests; patriotic.
n.
1. A citizen of a particular nation. See Synonyms at citizen.
2. A contest or tournament involving participants from all parts of a nation. Often used in the plural.

Just because a german nutcase chose to use it in the name of his political party, does not taint the original meaning for me.

I really would prefer Republic Day :D

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Nah ... St. George was born in Blackburn Royal Infirmary; enlisted in an apprenticeship at Howard and Bulloughs; and achieved sainthood by refusing a move to Yorkshire. He then moved to Newfoundland, and led a happy, fulfilling life beating the crap outa baby seals. As a result, his Day is celebrated on the rock as a Provincial holiday.

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I've been rumbled.:mosher:

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I had to move to Yorkshire - shame. I was posted to RAF Norton on the Sheffield border with Chesterfield - my second Son has never really forgiven me for allowing that - mind you, the 3rd Son has a bigger gripe - he was born in East Anglia

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Actually he was an Austrian ! In 1889 Braunau Am Inn the town lay in the Austria-Hungary Border area. It is now classed as Austrian, he came to Germany with his family when he was 3 they moved to Passau.

Ask any German & they'll most definitely tell you he wasn't one of theirs !

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So he swims well then ? well he must do, they all have webbed fingers & toes from East Anglia ! :D

I believe the technical term is "NFN" Normal For Norfolk :D

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Why can't we just celebrate our country without examining the roots of the day too much? Much the same way that the 'true meaning of Christmas' has been eroded by commercialism, people are still nicer to each other on that one day than at any other time of year and so the ends justifies the means, surely? It's the whole point of Christmas!

We're having a St George's Day bash at Rishton Towers with bunting and traditional music. Let's have a bit of national pride!

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Its all right for you Barrie, both my Grandsons were born in Hong Kong:eek::eek::D

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Could be worse, could have been born in Dingle land with five fingers and a thumb on each hand:D

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surely that would be extra propultion and make a better swimmer :D

or would teh club foot drag them back ?

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Especially if there was a web between the first finger and thumb,as for the clubbed foot a specially made flipper could suffice :D

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Would really like to see it happen ! but this just emphasises the point why we feel we can't ! How very sad the English people have been reduced to this :(

England 'least patriotic' country - Telegraph

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Interesting. A recent poll, whose results I heard on CBC radio a couple of weeks ago, showed that 83% of folks in English Canada consider themselves "proud Canadians". In la belle province de Quebec, the figure is a stunningly high 65%. And this in a country where about one third of our citizens belong to a "visible minority." In Toronto, over half the population falls into this category. And even though you guys over the pond are always criticizing them, the Americans are not short on patriotism either (and Patriot missiles:D). So, why do the English, with such a long history of achievement, not feel proud of their land.

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Any one know if any other developed westernised "countries" apart from the 4 UK provinces celebrate a National Saints day , seems a bit odd a 'protestant' country celebrating the mumbo-jumbo ritualism of the Catholic Church.
Can understand the Irish,(and all their superstitions) but the Welsh Methodists and the Scottish Kirk having Saints think is going a bit far :confused: :D ;)

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We have thousands of years of history and every misdemeanour that we've ever made is being apologised for. I'm just waiting for the apology to France for Nelson's little victory.

The problem is that we've been PCed into a corner and now no one dare say anything because of the 'discrimination' card which is wielded so freely by everyone for an instant sympathy vote. The bigger problem is that compensation culture has encouraged it to the point where payouts for ludicrous stupidity are no longer confined to cups of coffee in McDonalds.

Great Britain has become a very litigious society, so much so that it's almost like a second income for some people and collossal payouts are being demanded for the most innoccuous things.

Flying an England flag on St George's Day should be a proud event but there's always someone somewhere just waiting to be offended.

It's the saddest thing about our once-great country, which is why so many of us keep harking back to how things used to be.

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That's a good point, but there's a patron saint for everything now, even television! St Clare for those who were wondering....

As I said about Christmas, whatever the origins are it's a damn fine excuse to celebrate!

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I agree about the apologising malarkey, how the hell can anybody apologies for something they had nothing to do with, its a joke, you never hear other countries doing it so why should we. Is it any wonder that more and more people are emigrating these days, mind you the populous is still growing with the influx of people thinking the streets of Britain are paved with gold, and in comparison to where most of them come from, who are we to argue:(

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I should have added that there's always someone even more ready to agree with that person and force you to take it down.

Here at Rishton Towers, we are flying the flag proudly.

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to be honest i can't see any point in it, George never ever came to this country and is patron saint of several other countries too, it's all bollox if you ask me

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Ya but there's such a thing as principals Shaz, and irrespective we should be allowed to fly the flag of St. George, with pride, without being told by dogooders and bureauprats that its offending other races, when actually it isn't :mad:

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i agree with that bit Jay but why have a saint that never meant anything?

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I personally think that as a nation we don't make a big song and dance about patriotism because we share a national feeling of supriority over Johnny foreigner.

There's more of a need for those peoples who feel downtrodden, to celebrate their patron Saints' day. As seen in Ireland, Scotland, France etc.

I don't need some Palestinian, beatified by the Catholic church, and shared with Ethiopia, Greece, Lithuania, Russia, Georgia, Portugal etc., to be happy and to have been born English.

:)

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Racist!

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Now, what apologies have we had over the last few years?...oh I remember, we've had Gordon Brown apologising over the child migrants to Australia affair...oh yes, and then there was Tony Blair expressing his sorrow over the slave trade and apologising over the Irish potato famine.

Bet you wouldn't be seen dead in any party they were leaders of. ;)

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muppet

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Touche, Mr Harris.... :)

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I'm a 'regionalist', being proud of being a northerner.

:D

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Eric, you are responsible for me getting a lot of funny looks for bursting out laughing in the lab I'm currently skiving. Bloody brilliant :D

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Quebec: St Jean Baptiste day. La Fete nationale de Quebec. It's on June 24.

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Fete Nationale - Bastille Day is clebrated all over France for the storming of the Bastille, 7 prisoners were released. Haven't seen much celebration on St Denis day - the patron saint of France.

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Maybe there is a lack of celebrations for St Georges day.. but it's not as if there has been countrywide celebrations in the past.. can't recall any in the 60's 70's 80' 90's or ever (unless I missed them), to say it's all down to the "PC" brigade or some sort of lack of patriotism is rubbish.

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true never was a big deal, st paddys though was always a good excuse.:D

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Personally, I think there's something a bit un-English about making a big song and dance over St George's Day. Better to leave all that flag waving and marching to those excitable foreigners. ;)

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or give it to the dingles, they could do wi summat to celebrate.;):D

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Quite right no need..it would only make Johnny foreigner feel even more insecure. :)

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True, true, both Mancie & Wyn make valid points about the British reserve & not making a big thing over our special days/events especially the English. But in the present day & environment it is more to do with the overbearing pressure applied by local Councils & unelected bodies who claim offence on behalf of the "Perceived Offended", that more patriotism & National pride isn't so widely displayed (Flying the St.George flag, not overly flambouyant & a subtle reminder we're English).

Unfortunately the above has more to do with our lack of National Pride than the more typically perceived Great British reserve.

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I'm with Mancie on this; Seems to me St Georges Day is celebrated far more widely now than it ever was in the supposedly pre-PC days. They're having a St Georges Day parade and street market in front of the town hall in Labour-run Manchester next weekend. Not much "overbearing pressure" there, then.

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Well its no wonder that we don't celebrate St Georges day when, when the country has something to celebrate, like England playing in the World, people are regularly asked to remove the Union flag or St Georges Cross from vehicles, I remember taxi drivers being told to remove the flags because it may upset over nationalities

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don't really think thats out to do wi it mate, back in the day when nobody bothered about such things, was no big celebrations i remember, in fact biggest i recall was 66 when we won world cup.:)

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My car flag and bunting are already up.

As Jaysay has already pointed out, it's not so much that we've ever made a big deal of it, more the fact that any effort to do so is suppressed by the authorities. The Manchester parade is a new one on me and I'd like to think it will be an annual event rather than a vote-winning exercise.

Three years ago I was told by the landlord of the pub where I present one of my quiz nights that I had to make an announcement before my St George's Day special. The brewery stated that the landlord must not be seen to be specific to any one country so the St George's Day Quiz had to be my responsibility in order to exempt him.

It just seems odd that 17th March was another matter entirely as far as the money-grubbing brewery and sales of Guinness were concerned.

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I remember a mate, a Hyndburn Taxi Drive was told to remove a flag of St George from his aerial, for just the reason I stated cashy, that was in 1998:)

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The mind really does boggle Ken, :(

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yeh but thats after the lunatics took the asylum, i remember certain taxi drivers in accy centre honking horns n flying flags, but that was after 9/11, but thats off thread.:mad:

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It is an annual event - been going for a few years now.

"any effort to do so is suppressed by the authorities"? So, are you expecting the cops round at your house next Friday, Ken? Think you'll find there's quite a lot of celebrations going on without let or hinderance. Obviously, there'll be a few loony left/PC stories, but doubtless our "Mailwatch" correspondent will be posting them on here, so we all know about them! ;)

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perhaps st georges day would be better celebrated if it was a public holiday like it is in ANOTHER COUNTRY which is Canada i think.

its hard to celebrate it and not get fired for been drunk ,its a disgrace govenment hasnt realised this and given the british people a day off on their national day.

like somone has said already saint patricks day gets celebrated more but in all fairness unless its somones birthday the majority of people couldnt care less who saint patric is as its merely a good excuse for a booze up and to run around in a silly hat

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I was referring in point of fact to examples such as the Scottish and Newcastle brewery, a pub authority. There will probably be examples in offices too and councils haven't exactly exempted themselves, such as the taxi farrago with the little flags.

Whatever misgivings you have about the origins of St George, it is our national day and no one should be reprimanded for celebrating it with a flag or two just because someone somewhere might get offended.

I'll just set your mind at rest that I have never read the Daily Mail, or indeed any newspapers on a regular basis save the Lancashire Telegraph. I don't think the Daily Mail has the monopoly on PC stories, does it???

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Oh yes, doubtless there'll be a few stories, as I've already said, but your scenario of a nation of proud Englishmen and women cowed into silence by the oppresive hand of authority hardly rings true. Traditional apathy would be nearer the mark.

As for the Mail, I was actually referring to Jaysay who always likes to keep us in the picture on PC madness stories from that august organ! ;)

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You mean you don't read the gospel according to jaysay Wyn:D

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Wouldn't eat me chips in it, but each to his own... ;)

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You don't know what your missing, Richard Littlejohn Tuesday and Friday, :mosher:

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I do know what I'm missing, as you insist on sharing large parts of it with us on Accyweb! :D

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Just spreading the word Wyn just spreading the word:D

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Good for them !! I'm glad that someone has decided to ignore the whiners & bleaters & given the British & in particular the English some form of recognition. A most welcome change & good to see that instead of the issue being sidelined, positive reinforcement of Englishness is being condoned & promoted.

Unfortunately that positive attitude of "Being English" is being displayed in a "Province" & not the Capital City of our Country !! Why ??
Having looked there will be something going on in London after all - St Georges Day at Trafalgar Square - St Georges Day London Events, Trafalgar Square St Georges Day Concert But there is no great fanfare & tadah being exhibited in its promotion

While "the Notting hill Festival" (West Indian/Caribbean) is massively endorsed, "Australia Day" Strewth mate ! Everyone knows about that & even LGBT (Lesbian,Gay,Bisexual &Trans-gender) "Pride" is given reams of coverage. Surely the Nations Patron Saint deserves a little more recognition ? That little known Government publication http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-u...nd-diversity1/ I think requires some more reading in certain quarters by certain People !!

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Not in Canada ... only in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, which, by the way, also has a holiday on July 1 - Memorial Day - in memory of the men of the Newfoundland Regiment who fell on the first day of the Battle of the Somme. (Newfoundland, tho', was still part of the Empayah until 1949.) We do, however, have a national holiday on or around May 24 when Canadians drink lots of good strong Canadian beer to celebrate Victoria Day ... and on July 1, Canada Day ... even more drinking, and thanking our lucky stars that we live here and not somewhere else on this screwed up planet.:D

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so only part of canada gets a day off work for saint george then.Still a pretty poor do that england dosnt yet part of another country does

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'Reams' is actually one annual photograph, with an accompanying sentence, in a few of the heavier weight Sunday papers.

;)

I'm proud of what we are, and what we have in this country.

I honestly don't feel the need to be all jingoistic about it, on one particular day on the year, inspired by a Catholic holy day.

As an atheist, I thank God every day of the year, that I was born English.

:p

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You daft sod:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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You should be thanking God that you were born a Lancastrian first

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Post 65, in this very thread...

I don't consider anywhere other than this county as being truly northern.

;)

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Young Ken's very scarce today. I wonder if the much-discussed PC brigade have been round to "suppress" him? ;)

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just enjoy the day and make he most of it

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To paraphrase Kipling/Cecil Rhodes:

"To be born English is to draw the winning ticket in the lottery of life. To be born a Lancastrian is to win the Double Rollover."

Shame Garinda is from Ossy.....he's just lost his ticket:)