Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 815560)

You know folks...I posted my views with trepidation.
I felt like I would be putting my head above the parapet....and I waited to hear the zing of bullets and the hot air from them......feeling sure I would be shot to pieces.
I have to admit this hasn't ever stopped me in the past...but so much passion was generated by this political debacle.....I can't say it polarised people because three or more parties cannot polarise.....but it did throw up the fact that many ordinary people....people who are honest and genuine, who have worked for their homes, and provided for their families, were very unhappy with how politics was affecting their lives.

it seemed to me that people did not know who they could trust...after all we had been royally let down by these politicians in many ways.
We were promised a land of milk and honey by Tony Blair.......and it seemed that all we had got was a land of funny money....and all of it going to the wrong people. Criminals having more spent on their welfare than the sick in the hospitals of the land.

Pensioners who were supposed to be grateful for a free bus pass, prescriptions and a heating allowance, when terrorists were being given thousands upon thousands of pounds in compensation for injury to their feelings.

Soldiers being sent out to an illegal war(that none of us were asked if we agreed with) with ineffectual equipment.
I seem to remember that we were promised a referendum on the ratification of the treaty of Lisbon.......that didn't happen and more of our hard earned money was directed into the coffers in Brussels...along with our right to govern ourselves.
My recollection of the EU...or the Common Market as it was called then, was that it was a trade alliance....not that it would become this ungainly polital beast that would siphon money from member countries to go....well, who knows where this money goes.
Gordon Brown constantly referred to a 'fairer Britain'...well from my perspective none of it looked anything like fair to me.

And that is what made me put up the posts.
It seems that I am not alone in my observations........and if I, a retired gobby Nursing Sister can see this so clearly...tell me, why can't the educated politicians see it too?

Simple....they don't want to.....there would be no money in it for them.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 815716)

Just because I can see what has gone wrong in the past doesn't make me suitably qualified to sort out those problems...although, it is necessary to be able to see where something is wrong before you can put it right.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 815773)

As you say, seeing what's wrong, at least means you can attempt to change it.

Lots of politicans are so far removed from reality, they've lost the ability to see further than an expenses form.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 815972)

The thing is Garinda, most MPs are like Graham Jones, who is by noway removed from reality, when first elected, whether this lasts or not only time will tell;)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 815989)

Graham Jones has, and does, live in the real world, and has worked for a living. Unlike many of the politicans, who are professional politicans, and that includes many of the new intake, despite what Cameron promised, when he opened up the selection process.

Apparently many at grassroots level, opposed his choice of candidates.

;)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 815992)

Who was that:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 815995)

Some posh bint, from Lytham, if my memory serves me well.

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 816030)

Didn't know they had posh bints in Lytham:D

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 816031)

See, if you'd taken more time to get to know her, you could have voted for the posh bint.

I know you like to respect your betters.

:D

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 819623)

According to your man Clegg, they'll not be making the mistakes the Tories of the 80's made, as they have plans, does that make you feel happier Mancie ?

Clegg vows to protect poorest regions from impact of cuts - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

But in an apparent reference to the woes of industrial regions of the North and Midlands during the Thatcher years, he said special initiatives were being rapidly prepared to cushion the areas that would otherwise be "left high and dry".

Sounds as though he's more Socialist than New Labour were ! Question is will he pull it off or is this more bluff & bluster ?