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I dont know what your worrying about, if there not your bin bags, how can they trace it to you? it wont have anything in with your name or address on to link it to you or your house, but it might have of the culprit who has put it there, also as for recycling, everyone should do it,all the council are doing is targeting the lazy, bone idle sods who dont. Any complaints about it contact the council, and tell them your not happy or you know who has dumped the rubbish in your bin or back alley, let them sort it.

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You seem to have missed the link in post #15. :D

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There needs to be some guidance from central government on where meeting recycling targets fits in the overall picture of the current financial cuts. If there is to be a 40% reduction in spending, as we are told, then can we afford to spend scarce resources making sure the right things are put in the right box. Surely the first priority must be to empty the bins, not to put stickers on them.

I'm all for recycling, but only when we can afford it.

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Does recycling cost the Council money or save them money.

Has anyone got any figures to show either way?

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'Hyndburn Borough Council is having to pay a plastics company to take loose plastic bottles from its recycling facility after a surprise volume of material.' Demand for plastics leads to changes for Hyndburn service - letsrecycle.com Six years ago recycled plastics were costing the council money, so succesful was the amount people were recycling. The last government were awarding subsidies, if recycling targets were met by councils. With the coming cuts, this carrot will probably be removed...and recycled in the compost bin.

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It's OK we heard you the first time Garinda :D

In a similar vein to some of the other comments - I'd like to see Rossendale council try and fine me for not recycling. lol

The thing is, its not us the householders that are the big problem, its the shops that are not using recyclable packaging.
(And when I say reacyclable - I mean plastics with either a 1 or 2 in the triangle, anything else is not recyclable here).

The you get your lazy oiks who don't give a monkeys, who are proberably on benefits because they are too lazy to work etc
and wont pay any fine anyway.

What the council are hoping is that the threat will make more recycle and those that they do try and fine will jst let them get away with it rather than
put up a defence.

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The baler in the article was another Council blunder. They looked at a couple and went for the cheapest option.

I think the worthwhile one was £100k and the cheap one we bought £50k?

It is always broke. It won't bale properly or everything and as a consequence storage yards overflowed.

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Thanks for the vote of confidence.

I've had plenty of good karma for giving straight answers on this forum alone.

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a) It really all depends on the area that the waste comes from which is a bit of an inexact science since Asian communities use far more plastic bottles from drinking more milk. It comes across as an attempt to get residents between wards to compete with one another to see who can recycle the most.

b) I'm not sure, certainly not a full council meeting that I recall, but fines have been standard for some time now. The environmental health inspectors will issue fines for anyone who they can prove has been dumping rubbish improperly, which includes fly-tipping and leaving bin liners at the side of wheelie bins. The stickers just seem to be a reminder that fines will be issued for abusing the waste system and to try and get people to do things properly. I have to say that the bin men in Rishton are very obliging when you have anything extra to get rid of if you ask them nicely.

I don't disagree in principle with fining people who abuse the system but I must admit that the sticker on my bin did make me wonder what I'd done to deserve such a notice. Hyndburn Council has one of the best recycling rates in the country and they're probably keen to keep it that way.

The current system of separating everything at the doorstep is apparently much cheaper than the new blue wheelie bins that are appearing in other boroughs into which ALL recyclable material gets thrown, barring green waste.

I must admit that I'd prefer a blue bin myself to keep my shed tidier but until the cost of doing that drops it looks like we're stuck with the current system.

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Was that down to Councillors or Officers?

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Sorry about that Ken but up until you started posting any topical issues were avoided like the plaque by our elected representatives. I now concede that we do get straight answers if only from you:)

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I try! In fairness to Graham, that he finds time to come on here at all is amazing and I can't recall him ever dodging a direct question.

Correct me if I'm wrong but he's a very straight talking man and usually has the facts at his fingertips.

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How much extra would it cost each household for the blue bin type system you mentioned? Maybe the people should be asked to decide if they want to pay for it or not?

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I always thought hyndburn had the same system as us in rossendale ... ok different coloured bins but the same ...

Green bin .. household rubbish anything that wont go into the other bins ...
Blue Bin .... tins, glass, plastic, cans
Brown Bin .. Garden waste
Sack/Grey bin .. Paper and cardboard

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Not quite:

Grey bin: household waste
Brown bin: garden waste (for those not in terraced, naturally)
White sack: paper
Blue sack: tins and plastic
Cardboard is to be tied up with string and left by the side of the sacks

A blue wheelie bin for recyclables would be much easier.

Neil, I will look into it.