Leader of The Labour Party
 

As a member of a trade union affiliated to The Labour Party I received my ballot paper today, enabling me to participate in the election for the new party leader. As it happens I voted for the candidate endorsed by our constituency MP. Who do you think be the next leader?

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Plonker! We've already got a thread and poll started on this.

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I thought we should have, but I couldn't find it, perhaps Mick or Neil could remove this one .

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Found your poll now, back in May. This is the official list of candidates, minus mandy and the moggy.

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i got my ballot papers today ... havent opened them yet ... was busy ... and i still havent decided who to vote for either ... think it will be ip dip sky blue and you are not it ... until i get to the last one ... lol

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I think the cat polling 23%, and coming second, in the other thread, speaks volumes about the level of enthusiasm that the candidates inspire.

:rolleyes:

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I'm suprised they allowed Russ Abbott to black up, and stand for the leadership contest.

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Got my ballott paper. Voted for David Miliband.

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Lets face it - if anyone other than Dave Milliband gets the post, then it's another 18 years in the wilderness for Labour.

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I wouldn't necessarily go along with that. But David Miliband is more likely to win us an election.

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I notice Gordon Brown isn't on your wish list, best leader the party ever had.;)

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Would agree wi that fact, to be truthful, wouldn't put brass on any of em.:eek:

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If you put them all in a sack, shook them about a bit, and then took the best part from each of them you still wouldn't have enough material to make a useful leader.
It is a good job I don't have to vote on this one....there really isn't anyone there who lights a flame.

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In this poll I voted David Miliband because I reckon he will win the Leadership, but taking into account the next General Election is 5 years away, I'd would rather see Ed Miliband as leader.

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The petty squabbles and sibling rivalry that those two have indulged in, has maybe reduced their standing in the eyes of many party members.

I said 'Ed Balls' last time we were asked, and I say it again now
......but none of them are worth the effort of putting pen to paper:rolleyes:

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I'd say exactly the same...minus the "Ed".

Fools, knaves and charlatans, the lot of 'em.

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I bet my bippy that if you played word association with all the candidates, and said the word 'graft'.

They'd all reply 'skin'.

None of them knowing the meaning of 'hard graft'.

Isolated as they all are, in their political careerists' ivory towers.

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If he puts half the effort into running the country as he did in his election campaign we're laughing.

In the end I phoned him up and said that if his office rang me one more time to canvass me I'd be voting elsewhere.

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They must think your support is a bit iffy Ken:D

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Just voted online

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Had full support from me from the word go but some people just won't take 'yes' for an answer!

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Huston we have a problem:rolleyes:

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Me too...

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Who was it...numpty one, two, three, four or five? :rolleyes:

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You will find the numpty's in No 10 Downing Street, currently clueless.

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...just like the motley shower in your leadership campaign.

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Yeh, whatever.. ;)

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A well-considered answer. Incidentally, if you're not going to reveal the recipient of your vote, what was the point of posting...was it because you were so pleased that you'd mastered the process of on-line voting in your party's leadership campaign that you wanted to share the experience with us?

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Absolutely correct...but then, it is a secret ballot, just like any election.

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...and as you've already proved, you don't really have the courage of your convictions anyway. :rolleyes:

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Have I ?...

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Ok, If you must know, although it should be private, I voted for Ed Milliband. I was allowed 2 votes due to party membership, and being member of an affiliated organisation.

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i still havent voted yet ... best do it sometime soon ... whens it all to be in ... havent opened the letter yet with the voting papers in yet ... might be because im decorating and the house is a tip .. more so than usual ..

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You can vote online, which I did.

I voted for Ed Milliband.

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Great minds think alike.. ;)

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I could say fools seldom differ, but that would be a bit unfair...

...on Claytonender. ;)

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Well I didn't vote on line. And I voted for David Miliband.

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I voted online too and I voted for David Milliband

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You can also vote, and choose who you want, from the Little-Blair-woods catalogue.

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And you voted for ??

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38 Go on Wyn tell us

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ok ive gone and done it ... and before anyone asks .. no im not saying ...:tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

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Go on be a devil Jen:D:D

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Thermals keep you dry

Is this the male equivalent of:-

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im accywebs little angel ... no devil in me ... :tongueout and anyway you have to be nice to me ... otherwise you wont get your haggis's .... :tongueout:tongueout:tongueout

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Diane Abbott of course, comrade!

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Me too, IMHO she is the only one who can truly continue the legacy of Tony and Gordon and also introduce a new dimension.:D:D:D

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Tell you what, you can say what you like about Diane, she's certainly got the other four numpties weighed up perfectly:

"You wouldn't believe to hear them that they were at the heart of the New Labour project for at least a decade. Whether or not they were MPs or not, they were at the heart, they were working for one or the other of the two key people. They were members of cabinet for five years. And yet, at hustings after hustings, they tell you they disagreed with this, they disagreed with that, they don't know why we did this, they don't know why we did that ... All this handwringing and pretending they weren't there, that they weren't at the heart of the project, is slightly amazing."

Banged to rights, lads! :D

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Listened to lady Diane on 5 live tonight...unbelievable

Did not answer one single question, said absolutely nothing, had no policy or idea on any questions raised other than ' leaving the ideals that tony blair had behind' and 'labour wont win an election under either milliband'

Good luck Graham..you're gonna need it with dipsticks like her in spokesman positions

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One thing is certain .. Diane Abbot cannot win the Labour Leadership, let alone a General Election.
Have to agree with what some have said on here.. none of the candidates inspire much confidence. :(

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agree cos none of em are real Socialists.;)

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Yep.. but a then again a real Socialist could not win a General Election...the same goes for a real Liberal. :(

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Something strange going on here - I voted for Diane Abbott as well and I was about 5th or 6th to vote?
Wanted to maintain the trend for the Labour Party.

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Because Socialism is dead and buried , unfortunately .

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well aware of that fact n why i no longer bother.;)

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Solicialism is not yet dead.. some say a week is a long time in politics.. and five years is even longer.. but comon sense will always be about.
No real socialist can win any General Election ... the Tories and their press machine have put paid to any illusion of that ..the media claim to be neutral.. same as some bods on here... but they spend all thier time defending a slash burn Government who are hell bent on the destruction of everything this country has built up over the last 50yrs.. they are a disgrace!

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True & vintage Mancie :) can't quite fit in exactly to 50 years but if we start at say 1964 (as I was born in 1965) through all my lifetime the country has been governed as follows :-

1964 - 1970 Labour
1970 - 1974 Conservative
1974 - 1979 Labour
1979 - 1997 Conservative
1997 - 2010 Labour
2010 - ???? Coalition (Lib Dem & Con)

So by your reckoning the governments of their day are responsible for the state of the Country today ? That being the case then Labour should shoulder more responsibility for the current problems simply by dint of time in power ! Totaled up Labour have had 24 years at it while the Conservatives have had only 22 years, your own accusations bring forth the grim reality of UK's political degradation ! Nice one Mancie, your own argument is defeating your champions ! :o

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Built, built, Labour have been the most destructive force in Britain in recent times is just that people like you are blind, the only thing you get when your up to you neck in doubt, is hardship, that applies just a much to Government a it does to the ordinary man in the street, the only difference being the government are throwing our money down the drain, debt doesn't go away and today's problems are totally at the feet of the 13 years of Labour Government, end of:(

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So you refused things like the £250.00 Heating Allowance did you?

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As I've said before Heating allowances should be means tested, or do you agree with the likes of Margaret Thatcher getting £250 every year, I certainly don't

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I actually agree with you for once. :eek:

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They are not hell bent on the destruction of Trident .

And it was a Labour government that made Britain a nuclear power .

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Some how I thought you would Simon:D

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I don't believe Thatcher should get anything for the way she screwed the country up !!! :tongueout

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No doubt you'll feel even more strongly about Blair and Brown then :thefinger:tongueout

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You disagree when I say that Socialism is dead .

Yet you say that no real socialist can win any General Election .

Are we not saying the same thing in different ways ?

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I agree with you , Jaysay , that heating allowances should be means tested . That is as long as the means testing does not prevent one single person who needs the allowance being left out .

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I have exactly the same feelings about child benefit as well JCB, why should a home with £75000 plus coming each year receive an sort of government hand outs

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What you say is fair and makes sense .

My only concern is that any in need should not miss out .

There would have to be a rigorous regime set in place to ensure that those in need get what they are entitled to . But where there's a will there's a way .

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Why, what did they do wrong other than support the country, bail out our money in the banks, improve schools and hospitals...Didn't Mervyn King admit it was the bankers that have caused this financial crisis?

Oh, and maybe if many Tory supporters with offshore bank accounts paid the tax they should, we could resoup some money.

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Maybe we are saying the same...I'd say the real socialism that created the NHS, national pensions, child benifit has gone when talking about winning a General election.. mainly because the tories have always opposed them ..and the right have total control of the media.... but I don't think the idea of socialism is dead.

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Hey Wyn, if we both voted for her how come she has only 1 vote. Which of our votes have been declared invalid???????????:confused:

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no good askin wyn mate, hes "All The Way To Memphis";):)

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That Dementia ridden owd bitch put the final nail in socialism, when she created the "Me Me Me" society.

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some guys have all the luck! :)

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Is he taking in the Grand Old Opry in Nashville too cashy:D

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Dunno, i told him how we did it from yon. ;)

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Too much to hope that he will get a different song sheet??????????

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Yes the idea of socialism is still around , but there's not the slightest evidence that the people of this country want it .

There was a degree of socialism in the Attlee led Labour government , but none in the Labour gvernments led by Wilson , Callaghan , Blair , and Brown .

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Watched an interview with Tony Benn not long ago JCB, he was asked if it was time for Socialism to make a return, his answer, NO;)

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Sadly Tony Benn is correct, society has changed far too much (fer the worse) fer it to return.:(

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Despite his helping to cause chaos in the Labour Party in the 1980s , thus bringing about New Labour , I do like to listen to Tony Benn . He speaks good English and refuses to indulge in personality assassination .

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Funny enough JCB I like listening to him speak, don't agree with a lot he says, but at least he sticks to his principles and he's also a great orator. Unlike the modern day Labour party who sold their principles for electability, then tried to distance themselves when it all went tits up.

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Oi, Mr Yates, I may be sitting in the lobby of the Holiday Inn, downtown Memphis (four blocks away from Sun records, Cashy), but I've got my eye on you! So, have you given up being a plastic Manc and started supporting Stanley or what??

Anyway I'm off to Beale Street to have a few beers and watch James Govan and the Boogie Blues Band. Bye, y'all. :D :cool:

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You should be so lucky:D

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Anyway, the new Labour leader will be announced at quarter to five this afternoon. I bet those clowns at the BBC interupt the footy results to let us know who's won.

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Its on BBC 2 Tealeaf, from 4-30, I will be watching the footy results on BBC 1;)

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It's Ed then......19 years of wilderness for Labour.

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Mancie should be happy, socialist Ed won.
So Labour is back to the 70's and 80's then.

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Pretty obvious you are having a great time Wyn - good on you. Never got to Memphis, S.C./Al/Az/Md/Ut and California were the only places I worked or visited.
Stephen Fry in America last night brought back some memories - Monument Valley to Tucson, including the mothballed aircraft at Davis-Monthan Airbase and Old Tucson the film town.
"A few beers" you need more than a few of their Gnat Urine:D:D:p

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Couldn't stop laughing when I heard the result BG:D

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He forgot to add....as it will mean David Cameron and Nick Clegg will only get a short term.

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I preferred him to win,but unlike you i aint n eternal optimist.:rolleyes:

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Back to the days of the one legged socialist arm Left, Left, Left Left Left

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My "local" while I'm here is the Flying Saucer pub (Boddies served). However, I generally stick to Pacifico Clara - cerveza de Mexico! :D

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Time will tell .

He has been elected as leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition ( to use traditional terminology ) .

His task will be to lead opposition to Govenment policies where he sees fit , and to propose alternative policies . If he is effective he may become Prime Minister , when he will implement the policies he had opposed in opposition as all Prime Ministers do , exempting Margaret Thatcher .

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What! You can't get Molson Canadian:eek:;)

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Does anyone really gives a toss who is leader of the Labour Party?.. according to the Tory press Ed Miliband is some sort of left wing commie that would allow the unions to control this country.. It's all so boring because the unions have never had control of this country, and seeing as less than 30% of working people are members of any union it's rubbish... I say it don't matter who leads any political party .. the main thing is what the party proclaims to offer in a realistic way.
At present we have two once opposite parties in some sort of demolition.. the Tories that will send us down the road of slash burn destroy, whatever the economics.. and then we have the so called LIb-Dems who seem to think they have reached the promised land on the basis they have a a few nodding donkeys in the cabinet.. this Government offer nothing but five years of hardship and depression for the majority.. Ed Miliband, Ed Balls or whoever can't do a worse job than the missing Cameron or his bitch Clegg.

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Too late Mancie there's nout left to slash and burn, thanks to Brown and Darling;)

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Disagree mancie, n the tories will also "Alec Douglas Home" lasted about 12 months.:D