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Free?

I think you need to see a doctor.

Aneurin Bevan will be laughing, as he turns in his grave.

It's quite permisible to draw attention to it's failings, if there's room for improvement.

I'll go and check if there's room in the secured, padded, ward, where they keep the others who think that certain things are funded by the 'money faries' that come in the night, with their little sacks of cash.

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On second reading that has to be up there with the one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here, and using it to score cheap political points makes it doubly offensive.

The karma deductions on me.

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Can you have a word with my kids onthis point plz:D

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So can you tell us more about your experience of the treatment in other countries that "far exceeds what we provide here"?

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its free to the poor and disadvantaged the disabled who havent had the choice to have a job who in other countries have to rely on charities;)

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Blimey, Taggy, now you're for it, a double-pronged attack from the Accyweb Marxist-Leninist Militant Tendency! ;)

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cheers for negative karma garinda hitting a raw nerve am i..:D:D the nhs is far superior to most countries as i say;)

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No one's said any differently. Certainly not in this thread.

Many doctors and nurses I know are totally feed up with the current system, which increases their all ready heavy work loads even further, year after year. Whilst we've seen in recent years, under the last Labour government, as it happens cmonstanley, a massive increase in the amount of non-medical pen pushers.

There is a great deal of waste in the current NHS system. I've witnesed it, and if I didn't care, and didn't appreciate it, and desire to see the N.H.S. improved, I wouldn't bother drawing attention to it.

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labour started the nhs not the tories thats a fact not a cheap political point..

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No, not hitting a nerve.

Just disapoointed and besumed at your lack of knowledge, from one who prides himself on knowing the roots, and history, of true socialism, rather than an idiotic ramblings of a moron.

There ready for you down on the ward, with the other nutters who think the fairies fund the N.H.S, and it's therefore 'free'.

;)

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Really?

Like no way!

I wondered why I mentioned Nye Bevan.

Now I know.

:rolleyes:

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The average costs for health insurance in 2009 in the USA was On average, $2,985 for a single person and $6,328 for a family i wonder how these figures compare for the amount of our tax national insurance etc that goes to the nhs?

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still say the nhs is still one of the best in the word ditto:)the penpushers were probably for all legalities of the claim culture;) where thers blaim theres a claim.

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As to your first point C'mon, here in Germany, those less fortunate & on benefits are treated through the system & are NOT required to pay towards their treatment, whereas someone like myself gainfully employed pay a % of my monthly wage into the aforementioned system to assist in this treatment of the less well off. Further to that should I require treatment I will also be asked to pay a certain amount (irrespective of already having put into the pot). Plus every quarter (If I visit a Doctor or Dentist I have to pay an extra €10,00 so should I require both €20,00).

Secondly as to superior ? That I would question, if the NHS were so, why then do some operations & treatments get outsourced to other European Countries ? Cost ? Expertise ? Or the NHS aren't capable of dealing ? Not to knock it, the NHS is a worthy asset to the UK, but over the years it has become unsuitable for purpose & top heavy with self important nobodies, it requires a major overhaul/shakedown to lose the deadwood which has been foisted upon the service. That done the NHS can once again be a shining example of "free" public health care.

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Did the magical money fairies whisper you that?

Even the 'poor, disadvantaged, and disabled' pay taxes.

Ever heard of V.A.T., amongst the many other taxes those you highlight, might have to pay?