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jaysay 23-10-2010 09:24

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854224)
i remember when the tories were last in power hospitals were crumbling and in so much disrepair there was damp and leaking roofs.when labour came in i never seen so many new hospitals,they had to invest or the nhs would have collapsed because it was so underfunded and the last tory goverment.people have short memories.

Sorry to hear of your problem CS;);)gunshot to the foot can be very painful. It wasn't Labour who built the bloody hospitals, they were built with the Private Finance Initiative, which means we will be paying through the nose for decades to come;)

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 09:38

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 854252)
Yes claims against the NHS/councils and such are not good for any community ..it seems to be the fashion that any claims made from ordinary people are reported as scroungers out to make a few quid.. but if some dustbin wagon smashed your car to bits would you claim or just take it for the community?

Completely different situation ! Of course I would claim & it would be genuine due to damage caused by negligence. No Mancie, the point I was making refers to spurious & dubious claims, people doing it for their own enrichment without genuine cause.

Examples of Local Fraud Cases - Dorset and Somerset Counter Fraud Service
News about the Rotherham and Dearne Valley areas - David Sammons was jailed for a year for fraud after submitting forged timesheets. Sammons (30), from Swinton, pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud following an investigation by NHS Rotherham Founda
Local Government Lawyer - Man jailed after false personal injury claims against London boroughs

take a look for yourself there are thousands out there & if you are honest with yourself you'll probably know of people who have done it.

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:43

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BBC News - Spending Review: Care cuts 'may hit hospital beds'

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:49

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another new hospital built in the labour era BBC News - Hospital robots cut hospital pharmacy bill

jaysay 23-10-2010 09:55

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854324)
another new hospital built in the labour era BBC News - Hospital robots cut hospital pharmacy bill

See you've no comment on my post 61 CS:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 854307)
Sorry to hear of your problem CS;);)gunshot to the foot can be very painful. It wasn't Labour who built the bloody hospitals, they were built with the Private Finance Initiative, which means we will be paying through the nose for decades to come;)

at least they were built;)

cmonstanley 23-10-2010 09:57

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some more jobs go party of law and order my ass BBC News - Lancashire Police could axe all 427 PCSOs

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:07

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854326)
at least they were built;)

What a pathetic answer, if the Tories had done it you'd have been screaming privatisation, privatisation

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:08

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854327)
some more jobs go party of law and order my ass BBC News - Lancashire Police could axe all 427 PCSOs

Whats that got to do with the NHS you been on the Mancie juice

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 10:10

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Here we go again, we've been over PCSO's in depth elsewhere,they are in all honesty useless & bring nothing but a presence on the streets costing good money that could be used better by employing proper Coppers !

But of course that really isn't your aim is it ? So long as you can have a dig at a party that doesn't suit your jaded dogmatic perception of "Proper governance" you'll turn pretty much anything into a political arguement. The title is "HOSPITAL APPOINTMENTS", why bring up PCSO's here, C'mon ? Either find the older thread or start a new one mate ! Then we can argue the toss all day long.

jaysay 23-10-2010 10:12

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 854333)
Here we go again, we've been over PCSO's in depth elsewhere,they are in all honesty useless & bring nothing but a presence on the streets costing good money that could be used better by employing proper Coppers !

But of course that really isn't your aim is it ? So long as you can have a dig at a party that doesn't suit your jaded dogmatic perception of "Proper governance" you'll turn pretty much anything into a political arguement. The title is "HOSPITAL APPOINTMENTS", why bring up PCSO's here, C'mon ? Either find the older thread or start a new one mate ! Then we can argue the toss all day long.

Great minds think alike Dave;)

garinda 23-10-2010 10:15

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A QUANGO set up to slash NHS waste spent nearly £1million on staff away days and hospitality in just 16 months.

Read more: Waste slashers’ £1mil on treats | The Sun |News

Just because money's thrown at something, doesn't necessarily make it better.

cashman 23-10-2010 10:19

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 854335)
A QUANGO set up to slash NHS waste spent nearly £1million on staff away days and hospitality in just 16 months.

Read more: Waste slashers’ £1mil on treats | The Sun |News

Just because money's thrown at something, doesn't necessarily make it better.

Wonder who set that quango up?:D:D:D:D

garinda 23-10-2010 10:22

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 854224)
i remember when the tories were last in power hospitals were crumbling and in so much disrepair there was damp and leaking roofs.when labour came in i never seen so many new hospitals,they had to invest or the nhs would have collapsed because it was so underfunded ander the last tory goverment.people have short memories.

I last had the same operation I've just had, in 1985.

The care then was just as good, if not better than now.

I witnessed a lot less waste in the N.H.S. in the eighties.

DaveinGermany 23-10-2010 10:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 854334)
Great minds think alike Dave;)

You could see it like that Jay but I prefer to see it as the cerebral version of "take yer' jacket off Lar & let's go talk outside !" :D Only without the bloodshed, snot & tears.

Well lets be honest, that's what he's after isn't it ? to start a virtual brawl ! :rolleyes:


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