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katex

12-12-2010 16:44

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 868451)

If the Leader had provisioned for every household phoning up for a bag of grit would it not have been simpler to just deliver a bag of grit to every household? I'm afraid the residents of Rishton have not benefitted at all.
.

Just wondered what type of vehicle is delivering the grit, Ken ? Would have to be of a size to carry quite a few bags, but still capable of making its way through snow covered side streets.

If they were delivering to everybody in the Borough, then a larger vehicle would be required which wouldn't be able to proceed on these roads.

Hope you understood that. :)

Ken Moss

12-12-2010 16:46

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 868375)

So you would have been far too busy playng Santa Claus for Rishtoners to be involved in Graham Jones' campaign to get elected to Westminster ? :D

Graham got my full support in Rishton in the election campaign and will continue to get it for the rest of his tenure in politics. Every objection I have ever heard him make to Conservative policies has been for a very good reason and has always backed it up with the logical alternative. I have never known him clamour to get in front of the cameras or go all out to get his face in the papers with a non-story just for a bit of cheap publicity.

In short, he is my kind of MP and a damn sight better for Hyndburn than the alternative candidates.

Ken Moss

12-12-2010 17:01

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 868454)

Of course, and the honest answer is that I don't know.

As it stands, I understand that 8,639 bags have been ordered through this scheme and it has gone £7,500 over budget which means that offering it to the whole borough for £10k was a little ambitious and to be blunt an outright lie. That number of bags equates to around 130 tonnes which is a fair old number of trips if you're using a council flatbed Transit van.

There's no simple blanket solution to the gritting problem but there are far better ways of going about it. Some of my residents are in their 90s and can barely walk so giving them a 30lb bag of grit and expecting them to spread it themselves isn't very practical.

Last year we had reports of some of the council operatives unable to work due to the icy conditions so surely it would be better to give them alternative duties such as hand gritting?

lancsdave

12-12-2010 17:08

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 868454)

Just wondered what type of vehicle is delivering the grit, Ken ?

Well it won't be a gritter, they belong to LCC :D

katex

12-12-2010 17:16

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868459)

Well it won't be a gritter, they belong to LCC :D

Exactly .. and they were otherwise occupied !

Or the refuse wagons (who got through OK this year) .. no room for grit bags.

Anyways, LCC did a sterling job this year ... gotta' give them credit for that .. :thumbsup:

Neil	12-12-2010 17:20

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 868451)

..... I'm afraid the residents of Rishton have not benefitted at all......

Why not? [sarcastic comment removed]

If you can do a mail shot to all the houses in 5 hours why did you not inform them all about ringing up for a bag as soon as you knew about it?

Ken Moss

12-12-2010 17:30

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 868464)

Why not? [sarcastic comment removed]

If you can do a mail shot to all the houses in 5 hours why did you not inform them all about ringing up for a bag as soon as you knew about it?

In actual fact I did as part of my Area Council mail shot. It was also announced online on my Facebook and blog pages, at my surgery and the Area Council meeting which everyone in the village was invited to by letter.

Short of actually phoning up for them I think I made a reasonable effort to let them know.

jaysay

12-12-2010 17:31

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868410)

How can shopkeepers be held responsible for a pavement not owned by them?

In that case they probably don't own the shop either but they don't leave the door wide open when they go home at nights either:rolleyes:

jaysay

12-12-2010 17:34

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 868448)

Do me a favour and e-mail me a copy of my agenda will you? I seem to have lost my copy.

Save an email, if its not in Rishton I ain't bothered and I hate Britcliffe is about the agena in full;)

andrewb

12-12-2010 17:36

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 868451)

That safe a seat that Baroness Warsi was parachuted in to help the Tory campaign and the majority has dropped to a just a few hundred instead of the landslide it once was.

It's clear that the weight of feeling from a few of you is against the idea of hand gritters being used by a redundant litter-picking workforce. Fair enough, I'm big enough to accept defeat when an idea isn't that popular, but can any of you explain why this scheme which was open to everyone in the borough and costed at £10,000 didn't actually reach everyone in the borough by quite a margin?

If the Leader had provisioned for every household phoning up for a bag of grit would it not have been simpler to just deliver a bag of grit to every household? I'm afraid the residents of Rishton have not benefitted at all.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding in a huge way but until it is categorically defended by one of the Tory faithful as having acheived what it promised I will remain cynical.

Why did the residents of Rishton not benefit? They were entitled to the grit if they requested it were they not? Did you include it in a newsletter?

Ken Moss

12-12-2010 17:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868473)

Save an email, if its not in Rishton I ain't bothered and I hate Britcliffe is about the agena in full;)

If you secretly really do believe the first part of that then I must rank very low on your list of people to have respect for.

As for the second part, 'hate' is a very strong word although I must confess to a passing distaste for the man....

jaysay

12-12-2010 17:37

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 868470)

Short of actually phoning up for them I think I made a reasonable effort to let them know.

Just a little help ya get free calls after six with both BT and Sky, worth noting for the next freeze:D

katex

12-12-2010 17:49

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 868458)

There's no simple blanket solution to the gritting problem but there are far better ways of going about it. Some of my residents are in their 90s and can barely walk so giving them a 30lb bag of grit and expecting them to spread it themselves isn't very practical.

Last year we had reports of some of the council operatives unable to work due to the icy conditions so surely it would be better to give them alternative duties such as hand gritting?

Anyone of 90 who can barely walk would not be venturing out onto the streets or their drive.

Last year we hadn't enough grit to do many pavements anyway ! Maybe, this year the council workers managed to do their work ? Maybe it is not in their job description ? Perhaps too many legalities surrounding pavement gritting ? Who knows.

Remember, surfaces have to be swept of snow first and then gritted, so extremely labour intensive.

Think you are grasping at straws here, Ken, criticising the scheme and desperately trying to come up with other ways (but not thinking them through) ... but brownie point for trying.

Not saying the scheme was the best .. just a gesture in my opinion to try and help ... OK .. maybe a vote catcher, but was an attempt at least.

To me, would only help to get people with cars in their drive an advantage as once in the street, walkers would come across unsalted pavements anyway. Not many privies at the bottom of a yard these days, however, useful to de-ice a path to the wheelie bin I suppose.

Ken Moss

12-12-2010 18:04

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 868485)

]Remember, surfaces have to be swept of snow first and then gritted, so extremely labour intensive.

Think you are grasping at straws here, Ken, criticising the scheme and desperately trying to come up with other ways (but not thinking them through) ... but brownie point for trying.

Grit works fine on snow-covered pavements, the only real problem comes when the temperature drops below -12 degrees as salt becomes ineffective so I'm told.

As for grasping at straws, you may well think that but the scheme has simply not helped people outside of Baxenden and large parts of Oswaldtwistle in time to deal with the recent cold snap. There were far better ways of spending the same amount of money and helping a wider section of the community.

Someone suggested that they simply grit outwards from the depot in a widening radius. If it had taken a week you would still have helped more than 8,600 homes.

I don't know how it is in other wards that have not received their bags yet but I'm now getting reports from residents in Rishton that they have phoned up again and been told that they aren't due their delivery until late January.

Offering bags of grit to the public is not a terrible idea but a two-week window in November? September or October would have been a better start time for a rolling programme.

I'm still sticking with the idea of blanket gritting by a labour force with nothing else to do.

katex

12-12-2010 18:34

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This was an interesting article from the Citizen, some good explanations there from LCC including gritting certain areas, which don't have the traffic or footfall, and would become ineffective.

Lancsdave ... see Question 6 .. :)

Lancashire County Council chief answers your gritting questions (From Lancaster And Morecambe Citizen)

If you can come up with decent costings and time and motion studies to grit all the pavements, Ken, I will nominate you to become an Alderman of the Borough.. ;)

Haven't got my freebie yet, but Hey Oh .. will do for the next freeze over.

lancsdave

12-12-2010 18:57

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 868502)

Haven't got my freebie yet,

It's not a freebie :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Bernard Dawson

12-12-2010 19:00

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868508)

It's not a freebie :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

It baffles me Dave why people say its free. It's anything but free.

Less	12-12-2010 19:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868472)

In that case they probably don't own the shop either but they don't leave the door wide open when they go home at nights either:rolleyes:

What are you talking about?

Where is the link between shopkeepers locking up at night and not being responsible for pavements?
:confused:

katex

12-12-2010 19:19

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868508)

It's not a freebie :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Ok ... understand that, figure of speech .. no need for all those mad emoticons .. calm down. Just some have got more out of the council tax than others I guess. :p

lancsdave

12-12-2010 20:20

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 868515)

Ok no need for all those mad emoticons .. calm down.

stop winding me up then :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:D

shillelagh

12-12-2010 23:51

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 868327)

I don't think it is quite as simple as that.
So much emphesis is put on the schools duty of care to the children that the parents who complain about the schools being shut would be the first to complain if the children could not get home because the busses could not get through.

When the schools closed the other week the bus companies were contacting schools to say they could come now for the kids but might not be able to get through later.

My son goes to St Chris's, they have kids from as far as Burnley so its not practical to say walk home. Even when I was at school I had to travel 7 miles by bus to the secondary schools in Clitheroe.

If you were the head teacher and the bus companies were saying they would not be able to take your kids home at 3.30pm but could come now at 1pm what would you do?

I think most of the problem is down to our transport system not being able to cope with a bit of snow. Its laughable when you look at most of northern Europe and what they manage with. We seem to have the attitude over here that it does not snow much so we wont bother being prepared.

How many of you have shovels in the boot of your car and warm clothes incase you get stuck.

Last night on the news it was saying that the Scottish Transport Minister has resigned because they were not ready and they mentioned forcing wagons to use winter tyres as some of the problems were caused by stranded wagons.

i can remember when i was at the high school .. if you had to catch a school bus and the buses were sent to the school you were sent home ...but the pupils who walked to school stayed at school until finishing time or if it got really bad ... got sent home then.

when i was driving i always had a box in the boot with a hi-vis jacket, tyre sealant, torch, cooking salt/ a carton of ice melt in winter, and a pair of wellies/steel toe capped boots.

up in scotland these last couple of weeks has been really bad. Spugs had to walk to work a couple of days and walk home as the buses had been stopped .. was sent home a couple of days as well. Last monday which caught out the transport people they'd not expected as much snow as they got. In fact spugs said it started at 6.55am .. and was still snowing at 3pm in the afternoon .. no let up at all ... that was on top of what they'd already had.. In fact one school up there the pupils slept in the school as they couldnt get home .. the schools pupils were aged 3 - 18 .. and the staff stayed there as they couldnt leave until all the pupils had left .. the problems were exacerbated by people abandoning their cars on the road and walking so gritters and snow ploughs couldnt get through.... spugs also said that he'd been talking to a council worker .. who told him that the problem with the snow ploughs the ice was so thick it was breaking the blades on the snow ploughs ...

jaysay

13-12-2010 08:24

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:(:(

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868512)

What are you talking about?

Where is the link between shopkeepers locking up at night and not being responsible for pavements?
:confused:

Well Less if I had a shop I'd lock it up at night and clear the pavement of snow as a matter habit, looking back to the times when we didn't live in a nanny state, were everybody thinks responsibility is somebody else's, people used to clear the snow of footpaths and certainly shop keepers did, now we expect the council to do everything:(

lancsdave

13-12-2010 08:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868563)

:(:(
Well Less if I had a shop I'd lock it up at night and clear the pavement of snow as a matter habit, looking back to the times when we didn't live in a nanny state, were everybody thinks responsibility is somebody else's, people used to clear the snow of footpaths and certainly shop keepers did, now we expect the council to do everything:(

If it was private property I might agree with you. ;)

So tell me, what should I expect for over £2,000 a year rates ( not to mention I also pay the same council residentially as well )

Less	13-12-2010 08:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868563)

I don't think the two things are comparable, obviously it is the shopkeepers responsibility to ensure his goods are secured on leaving the premises, however it has never been the shopkeepers responsibility to clear the snow away, just as it isn't his responsibility to repair cracked flagstones.
When considering how high business rates are, I for one do expect the Council to clear the front of his premises.

Mick	13-12-2010 09:03

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Sod the Grit what we really need to do is get back to open fires:dflam:
1)Then you can burn most of your rubbish so there is not as much to throw out saving space in the wheelie bins
2) burning the rubbish is also recycling as the heat produced would warm the room and your hot water (back boiler) for the youngsters that don't know about open fires:)
3) ash could be saved and put on paths and pavements to prevent you slipping
4) it makes great toast :dflam::D:D
5) all the smog produced form the fires and the fog was great to play hide and seak in too so would keep the kids happy :p:D:hidewall:

jaysay

13-12-2010 09:05

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868565)

If it was private property I might agree with you. ;)

So tell me, what should I expect for over £2,000 a year rates ( not to mention I also pay the same council residential as well )

Oh come on Dave its your business!!! to me I wouldnt give a toss, I'd want to make sure potential customers were able to enter my premises safely, whether it was my own or rented

jaysay

13-12-2010 09:09

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868568)

Well Less we'll just have to agree to disagree on this, if I had a business whether the premises were owned or rented I would make sure the space outside my shop was clear of snow, flagstones are different altogether and you know it ;)

lancsdave

13-12-2010 09:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868573)

Oh come on Dave its your business!!! to me I wouldnt give a toss, I'd want to make sure potential customers were able to enter my premises safely, whether it was my own or rented

Are you suggesting I should also sweep the street as well so they don't have to wander past the usual mountain of rubbish round town, or perhaps hire security so they don't get hassled by the various denegrades wandering town and making their way to Maundy Grange.

Actually I have a better idea, why don't they make the denegrades clear the streets instead of cluttering them up :)

PS You still haven't said what the business rates are for :)

Benipete

13-12-2010 09:29

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It looks like it is time to brace ourselves for the second wave of bad weather starting around Thursday.:(
Ive nicked some more salt/grit in readiness.:alright::D:D

jaysay

13-12-2010 09:33

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868579)

Now your just being pedantic Dave;)

jaysay

13-12-2010 09:34

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 868587)

It looks like it is time to brace ourselves for the second wave of bad weather starting around Thursday.:(
Ive nicked some more salt/grit in readiness.:alright::D:D

Ya noticed that Beni, would be Thursday, I'm suposed to be going to the Royal Blackburn of an MOT:(

MargaretR

13-12-2010 09:55

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I am going for chiropody Tuesday afternoon - looks like it will be nice day for it :D
......car MOT due before end of month - might get that done as well.

Less	13-12-2010 10:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868576)

Flagstones are no different when it comes to safety of pedestrians, the Council sweep the street when there is no snow, the Council or their Agents are supposed to ensure the pavements are fit for purpose by repairing them, (don't all laugh, I really am trying to be serious here).

Why? When it snows, does the pavement suddenly become the shopkeepers responsibility?
:confused:

jaysay

13-12-2010 10:12

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868595)

Because Less they are able to and in the sort term will aide their own business, or is that too simplistic :rolleyes:

Less	13-12-2010 10:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868598)

Because Less they are able to and in the sort term will aide their own business, or is that too simplistic :rolleyes:

Absolutely too simplistic, their title is 'shopkeeper', if their title was 'roadsweeper' then I would agree with you.

They pay rates to the Council for maintenance including sweeping the pavement, just as we pay rates to have our bins emptied, why don't we be just as simplistic and do away with all except the guy driving the refuse truck and tell all householders in future you will take your bins out and empty them into the wagon yourself?
Somehow my Tory friend I don't think you would like that idea, but you expect shopkeepers to stop doing their job and do the work they pay the Council for?
:confused:

Stanleymad

13-12-2010 10:47

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868605)

Here Here, shops & business pay business rates as well as their residential council tax - if we have to do that then we should get a cut in business tax:p

jaysay

13-12-2010 10:52

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868605)

I give up:end:

Less	13-12-2010 11:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 868615)

I give up:end:

Good, because you were putting the onus onto the wrong people.
;)

Neil	13-12-2010 11:52

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I am going back to the SpongeBob Squarepants forum for a bit, it has more intelligent conversation than this thread :p

jaysay

13-12-2010 18:15

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 868620)

Good, because you were putting the onus onto the wrong people.
;)

Know I wasn't I was talking sense;)

jaysay

13-12-2010 18:16

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 868633)

I am going back to the SpongeBob Squarepants forum for a bit, it has more intelligent conversation than this thread :p

Nobody aked you to read it:p:p:p

panther

13-12-2010 18:19

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I live in ossy and still no grit!
why im I not surprised?
:/

cashman

13-12-2010 18:47

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 868701)

I live in ossy and still no grit!
why im I not surprised?
:/

Cos yer wrong side of the Lamp panther.:D:D

jaysay

13-12-2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 868724)

Cos yer wrong side of the Lamp panther.:D:D

Doesn't matter in Peters kingdom cashy:D:D I'm of now to watch the Gooners:D:D:D

Tealeaf

13-12-2010 18:59

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As of this morning, nowt in Church.

Maybe Britcliffe and his cronies should think about twinning himself and Ossy with Mugabe and Zimbabwe, purely as an exercise in corruption, gerrymandering for votes and incompetance.

panther

13-12-2010 19:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 868724)

Cos yer wrong side of the Lamp panther.:D:D

oh aye, which side should i be on cashman?
:p

lancsdave

13-12-2010 19:04

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 868737)

oh aye, which side should i be on cashman?
:p

The side furthest away from Rishton :D

jaysay

14-12-2010 09:16

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 868740)

The side furthest away from Rishton :D

Amen to that, but even then you'd still be within ear shot:D

Neil	14-12-2010 15:07

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 868701)

I live in ossy and still no grit!
why im I not surprised?
:/

I can sell you a couple of bags :rolleyes:

pipinfort

14-12-2010 16:48

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Altham West................grit arrived this afternoon...........:rolleyes:

flashy

14-12-2010 17:48

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 868701)

I live in ossy and still no grit!
why im I not surprised?
:/

did you actually order it?

katex

14-12-2010 18:24

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 868975)

Altham West................grit arrived this afternoon...........:rolleyes:

Mine too .. Clayton ... :)

panther

14-12-2010 19:35

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 868992)

did you actually order it?

nooo:o
hahahaha, no bloody wonder i havent got it!!
never mind, i could always shovel it i suppose!:hidewall:

flashy

14-12-2010 22:13

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 869029)

nooo:o
hahahaha, no bloody wonder i havent got it!!
never mind, i could always shovel it i suppose!:hidewall:

lol ya daft sod

jaysay

15-12-2010 09:14

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Well having seen the weather forecast for tomoz it looks like the all saga will start again tomorrow and the same problems will occur, but I've been thinking there are untapped resources at HBC that could be used to clear pavements and roads around the town centre. There's a team that could be cobbled together consisting of around 35 previously unused man/woman power that could be mustered.;) But having given it a little more thought it probably wouldn't work, for a start the group would split into two Red and Blue with a small number who can't decide which group to join, so they just lean on their shovels and watch. Then we'd have a bloke from Rishton in the Red team would shout across to a bloke from Ossy in the Blue team that he wasn't using the brush and shovel right, to which the bloke from Ossy from the Blue team replies to the bloke from Rishton in the Red team that he hasn't been on the team long enough to give any meaningful advice, all hell then breaks lose and a snowball fight ensues after which both teams return to the office for a glass of hot toddy, okay oka I'll get mi coat:D:D:D

Less	15-12-2010 09:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 869112)

I'll get mi coat:D:D:D

I'll call around and help you into it.

http://imagineannie.files.wordpress....ket1.jpg?w=480

jaysay

15-12-2010 09:24

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 869114)

I'll call around and help you into it.

http://imagineannie.files.wordpress....ket1.jpg?w=480

It'll have to be a lot bigger than that Less:D

Less	15-12-2010 09:42

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 869116)

It'll have to be a lot bigger than that Less:D

One size fits all, it's from the 30 bob shop not Burtons.

:)

jaysay

15-12-2010 09:59

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 869120)

One size fits all, it's from the 30 bob shop not Burtons.

:)

Ya haven't seen my waistline Less:D

JCB	15-12-2010 18:14

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Visited a friend in Rishton today . She got her grit last week .

Less	15-12-2010 18:17

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 869245)

Visited a friend in Rishton today . She got her grit last week .

Her Married name wouldn't be Britcliffe by any chance?

(We all have to look after our own, even poorer relatives that don't live in Ossy).
:D

jaysay

15-12-2010 18:22

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 869245)

Visited a friend in Rishton today . She got her grit last week .

Didn't know you knew Ken's wife JCB:rolleyes::D

JCB	15-12-2010 18:50

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 869246)

Her Married name wouldn't be Britcliffe by any chance?

(We all have to look after our own, even poorer relatives that don't live in Ossy).
:D

Fortunately she isn't married . :o

jaysay

15-12-2010 18:52

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 869257)

Fortunately she isn't married . :o

Whatever do you mean JCB:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

JCB	15-12-2010 19:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 869258)

Whatever do you mean JCB:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

:confused: :eek: :confused:

cashman

19-12-2010 22:07

Re: Free grit for all!

well aint seen our grit yet, may come in the spring.:rolleyes:

Neil	20-12-2010 05:41

Re: Free grit for all!

Not had the need to use it yet, maybe if the weather gets worse I will.

From HBC Website

Quote:

Deliveries for Hyndburn Borough Council's extra grit for residents has now started.

As of today, Monday 13 December 2010 -

Grit deliveries in Baxenden, Belthorn, Knuzden, Great Harwood, Rishton, Oswaldtwistle and Huncoat have been completed.

Grit deliveries in Clayton are underway with Altham, Church and Accrington to follow.

Taggy

20-12-2010 07:42

Re: Free grit for all!

Got mine on Avenue Parade at end of last week!

Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay

20-12-2010 08:42

Re: Free grit for all!

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 870034)

well aint seen our grit yet, may come in the spring.:rolleyes:

Well tha doesn't need it cashy just glare at the ice and it'll melt on its own accord :D

cashman

21-12-2010 18:53

Re: Free grit for all!

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 870061)

Well tha doesn't need it cashy just glare at the ice and it'll melt on its own accord :D

well about 3-45 this aft, heard a thud,went out the front door n behold me grit had been cobbed oer the railing, splitting the bag reet up the side.:rolleyes: made it great fun to shift the sodding thing.

jaysay

21-12-2010 18:56

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 870342)

See how helpful HBC are cashy they even open the bag for you:D

JCB	21-12-2010 19:22

Re: Free grit for all!

Got my grit today , left at the front door . That's in Spring Hill , one of the upper class areas of Accy .

Tealeaf

21-12-2010 19:26

Re: Free grit for all!

How many of you lot, having got it dumped round the front, had been told it would be left at the back door?

Neil	21-12-2010 19:53

Re: Free grit for all!

They put both of mine in the shed for me :D

Tealeaf

21-12-2010 20:01

Re: Free grit for all!

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 870362)

They put both of mine in the shed for me :D

Lovely! I'll remember that while I'm tucking into my Ossy rabbit for Christmas dinner.

Neil	21-12-2010 20:12

I saved a special rabbit for you mate ;)

Tealeaf

21-12-2010 20:19

Re: Free grit for all!

Oh goody! When can I collect?

I don't want an Halal rabbit, mind you; let me deal with the slaughter.

Neil	21-12-2010 20:33

Might be a slight problem then, did you want it alive?

jaysay

22-12-2010 09:27

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 870377)

Might be a slight problem then, did you want it alive?

Well how else would you fill it with that very special stuffing you told me about:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

tosh	22-12-2010 18:04

Re: Free grit for all!

i put mine in the shed and it froz solid

Gordon Booth

22-12-2010 18:11

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tosh (Post 870578)

i put mine in the shed and it froz solid

The grit or the chicken?

cashman

22-12-2010 18:20

Re: Free grit for all!

be the grit mines done the same,:rolleyes:

MargaretR

22-12-2010 18:23

Re: Free grit for all!

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So this grit distribution has been a SCAM

jaysay

22-12-2010 18:36

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 870589)

So this grit distribution has been a SCAM

That smiley looks just like PB:D

Neil	19-09-2011 15:54

Re: Free grit for all!

It looks like the current Council are keeping on with last years Tory plan about free grit, its in the LT here

Free grit bags offer returns for Hyndburn (From Lancashire Telegraph)

garinda

19-09-2011 16:09

Re: Free grit for all!

I still have most of mine in the shed.

I don't need another.

It was hardly frosty at all after they were delivered.

I've only used a small amount.

As an exfoliator.

http://www.sacred-heart-primary.torb.../thumbs/13.jpg

Less	19-09-2011 16:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934736)

Being a greeny I didn't get last years salt, I certainly won't be ordering any up for this year, I think it's a shame that the world's resources of salt are wasted in this fashion.

garinda

19-09-2011 16:37

Re: Free grit for all!

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 934743)

Being a greeny I didn't get last years salt, I certainly won't be ordering any up for this year, I think it's a shame that the world's resources of salt are wasted in this fashion.

Being a cripple I need every advantage to minimise the risk that I don't fall arse over tit on the ice again.

:Banane21:

:D

garinda

19-09-2011 16:41

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934750)

Being a cripple I need every advantage to minimise the risk that I don't fall arse over tit on the ice again.

:Banane21:

:D

I won't be ordering anymore, by the way.

A worried family member ordered it last year.

No good on snow, anyway.

Just hope it's not too bad a winter again.

I'd rather the money be spent keeping town centre pavements clear, and safe.

Ken Moss

19-09-2011 17:04

Re: Free grit for all!

It seems that the power of Accyweb remains as strong as ever since the mythical tongue-in-cheek figure that I attributed to this scheme last year was wheeled out as a hideously embarrassing miscalculation at Cabinet this week.

I was so embarrassed. Pity then that the offending post was attributed to the wrong councillor.

This year I confidently predict that a revised scheme will cost up to twenty quid less than the £6.6m I 'calculated' in 2010 and that we will probably only be able to provide 8bn bags of grit, not the 16bn I originally envisaged.

My apologies for any flippancy which may have escaped the sarcasm detector.

Less	19-09-2011 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934750)

Being a cripple I need every advantage to minimise the risk that I don't fall arse over tit on the ice again.

:Banane21:

:D

I'm sure Mags will be on very soon to let us all know how much more dangerous it is to fall on a salt filled pavement than it is to break an ankle.

Bee	19-09-2011 18:20

Re: Free grit for all!

We need more Grit. Xmas is coming :rolleyes:

Tealeaf

19-09-2011 18:35

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee (Post 934796)

We need more Grit. Xmas is coming :rolleyes:

Have you sent your letter to Santa yet, asking for a bag?

magpie

19-09-2011 18:43

Re: Free grit for all!

took all summer to wash the last lot away..... I personally did not think it was much good....

garinda

19-09-2011 18:48

Re: Free grit for all!

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Originally Posted by magpie (Post 934803)

took all summer to wash the last lot away..... I personally did not think it was much good....

Doesn't do the roads much good.

Made the Beatles song about Blackburn's four thousand pot holes look positively meagre.

Benipete

19-09-2011 19:18

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 934766)

Got your feet under the table then.

lancsdave

19-09-2011 19:22

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934753)

I'd rather the money be spent keeping town centre pavements clear, and safe.

Give over, you'll have Jaysay rattling out his 'shopkeepers' should sweep the pavements speech again :D

Neil	19-09-2011 20:45

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 934816)

Give over, you'll have Jaysay rattling out his 'shopkeepers' should sweep the pavements speech again :D

What a good idea :rolleyes:

walkinman221

19-09-2011 20:48

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by magpie (Post 934803)

took all summer to wash the last lot away..... I personally did not think it was much good....

Dont think so not with the amount of rain we have had this "summer":D

Ken Moss

19-09-2011 21:40

Re: Free grit for all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 934784)

See I wasn't wrong our Labour throng are still alive and kick the previous administration at every opportunity, maybe you'd now like to address accymans concerns about the proposed scrapping of clinical waste disposal, the thread he started on the issue must just have skipped your attention Ken;)

It has actually John, my apologies for being absent for a little while.

The clinical waste collections are going to be one of those neat little ideas that certain people latch on to as a prime example of Labour's scandalous treatment of the electorate and by cutting this vital frontline service it only proves what a bunch of careless morons they really are.

Or something.

In actual fact the clinical waste collections affect less than 60 residents across the whole borough as far as I am aware and changes to classifications of waste mean that there is virtually no loss of amenity at all as it can be safely disposed of with general household waste. The doomsayers out there may be predicting that armies of residents will be forced to flytip tons of radioactive waste and infected needles but the truth is quite different.

A motion on this subject has been moved for Thursday's full council meeting by the Conservatives:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...Council_1_.pdf

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