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garinda 27-01-2011 16:34

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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 869086)
Quote:Originally Posted by Ken Moss http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...s/viewpost.gif
'...it hardly seems proper that the business in question is run by a Baxenden councillor. We've spent over £15,000 on buffets in the past five years to that business.'

Does the councillor in question attend the meetings?

It brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "there's no such thing as a free lunch!"


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post869086

No, (over) £15,000.00 spent on butties, certainly can't be described as 'a free lunch', by any standards.


Less 28-01-2011 04:22

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 878180)
last year it was £4059.79.

So that is about £80 per week which coincidently is similar to the amount I pay per month in Council taxes. That means the taxes from four households are needed every year to keep the fat cats, erm fat!

How many other householders taxes are tied up in similar little perks that are too trivial for us to worry about?

If however close scrutiny was kept on such payments how many jobs would be more secure when the necessary cuts have to be made?

Ken Moss 28-01-2011 06:44

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 878561)
So that is about £80 per week which coincidently is similar to the amount I pay per month in Council taxes. That means the taxes from four households are needed every year to keep the fat cats, erm fat!

How many other householders taxes are tied up in similar little perks that are too trivial for us to worry about?

If however close scrutiny was kept on such payments how many jobs would be more secure when the necessary cuts have to be made?

That is precisely my intention. I'll keep you updated.

Neil 28-01-2011 07:24

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 878561)
So that is about £80 per week which coincidently is similar to the amount I pay per month in Council taxes. That means the taxes from four households are needed every year to keep the fat cats, erm fat!


Its more than 4 households Less. Most of your Council Tax goes to LCC and the Police. If you look at your bill it shows how much of it goes to HBC.

garinda 28-01-2011 07:28

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 878572)
Its more than 4 households Less.

Perhaps they should rename a whole Hyndburn street Butty Street.

jaysay 28-01-2011 09:14

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Looks like our Ken will be on a mission of Hearts and minds if he sits in the incharge chair come next May, think he may find things are not as black and white as he thinks they are:D

DaveinGermany 28-01-2011 09:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 878583)
think he may find things are not as black and white as he thinks they are:D

Which is usually true in most cases, lots of things happen behind the scenes that Joe Public is unaware of. Now, If young Kenneth maintains his integrity & consistency as it appears he has on here, then maybe at least more facts will come through & people will be in a better position to judge whether or not they are being treated fairly by their elected council.

Isn't that what folk are getting so wound up about ? The fact they're not being treated openly & honesty ! A multitude of sins can be, if not forgiven at least accepted by the man on the street as long as there is proper openness & he has the truth & facts plainly & clearly in front of him !

It's the bull, lies & spin that raise the most mistrust & contempt for those in their secluded corridors of power & intrigue.

jaysay 28-01-2011 09:45

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 878588)
Which is usually true in most cases, lots of things happen behind the scenes that Joe Public is unaware of. Now, If young Kenneth maintains his integrity & consistency as it appears he has on here, then maybe at least more facts will come through & people will be in a better position to judge whether or not they are being treated fairly by their elected council.

Isn't that what folk are getting so wound up about ? The fact they're not being treated openly & honesty ! A multitude of sins can be, if not forgiven at least accepted by the man on the street as long as there is proper openness & he has the truth & facts plainly & clearly in front of him !

It's the bull, lies & spin that raise the most mistrust & contempt for those in their secluded corridors of power & intrigue.

The road to heaven is paved with good intentions Dave, it can also be said about the road to hell too:D

DaveinGermany 28-01-2011 09:55

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 878592)
The road to heaven is paved with good intentions Dave, it can also be said about the road to hell too:D

Quite possible, but not being of a particularly religious bent roads to either don't really concern me. I'd sooner have the road I'm on right here & now properly maintained thank you very much ! ;)

jaysay 28-01-2011 10:01

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 878594)
Quite possible, but not being of a particularly religious bent roads to either don't really concern me. I'd sooner have the road I'm on right here & now properly maintained thank you very much ! ;)

Your better of in Germany then Dave:D

Less 28-01-2011 10:05

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 878572)
Its more than 4 households Less. Most of your Council Tax goes to LCC and the Police. If you look at your bill it shows how much of it goes to HBC.

Yes, I do understand that Neil, but in simplistic terms If my bill = £80 p.m.
Buttie bill = £80 p.w.
Then I and 3 others are needed to cover the 'pig fest'.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gDqx9qASjP.../PigEating.gif

All the other £80, (£80+ in most cases I get single person allowance and I think I'm in the lowest band), Per Month pay all the other bills

shillelagh 18-05-2011 16:43

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ive rooted this back up because i was nosying thro the rossendale bc website ... and came across this .. the updated members allowances for 2011/12

http://www.rossendale.gov.uk/downloa..._2011_2012.pdf

anyway so me being nosy ... went looking for hyndburns .. and couldnt find one for this year ... the latest being dated 2009 ....

besides that tho ... seeing as this was started re the child care allowance being up to the age of 17 ... rossendales according to this is:
This Allowance may be claimed in respect of children aged 14 years or under or in respect of other dependents where there is medical or social evidence that care is required.
Payments will not be payable to a member of the Elected Member’s household. Payments will be based on receipted expenditure incurred.
The total amount of allowance which an individual Member may claim in any one year will be limited to £750.

claytonender 19-05-2011 08:36

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The Hyndburn Members Allowance Scheme is accessible at
Council Constitution


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