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Less 07-03-2011 10:03
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 889864)
Ya but mi flack jackets gettin a bit worn cashy:D
Worn?
I'm suprised it's still in one piece!

No, hang on, thinking about it, it should be like new, when you fire off a round it's usually your foot you hit.
:)

jaysay 07-03-2011 10:12
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889867)
John Moss, and Karen Buckley both made numerous posts on here, prior to the selection interviews.
And very few after:rolleyes:

jaysay 07-03-2011 10:13
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 889868)
Worn?
I'm suprised it's still in one piece!

No, hang on, thinking about it, it should be like new, when you fire off a round it's usually your foot you hit.
:)
Less you only need a flack jacket for incoming not outgoing:D

jaysay 07-03-2011 10:15
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889866)
It's true.

I don't think you are viewed as the Tory apologist on here anymore.

I see you more as the starter of 'vile and vicious attacks' against our Council Leader.

Which is more than a little ironic, given your past statements in the letter columns of the local press.

:D
I haven't said a word about the Leader in waiting,













yet:D

garinda 07-03-2011 10:19
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 889871)
And very few after:rolleyes:
Obviously they thought it would make little 'difference', after the selection process had finished.

Mind you, many local Tories didn't seem that supportive, or posted much encouragement in the hope of making a difference, after poor Karen had been chosen as the Conservative candidate here in Hyndburn.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 07-03-2011 10:24
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889874)
Obviously they thought it would make little 'difference', after the selection process had finished.

Mind you, many local Tories didn't seem that supportive, or posted much encouragement in the hope of making a difference, after poor Karen had been chosen as the Conservative canddidate here in Hyndburn.

:rolleyes:
Well it was very unlikely I was going to add my support to her campaign as I didn't vote for her on a matter of principle, even though my arm was twisted to do saw, the only chance would have been if she'd have knocked on my door and even then they would have been slim to none ;)

garinda 07-03-2011 10:28
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 889876)
Well it was very unlikely I was going to add my support to her campaign as I didn't vote for her on a matter of principle, even though my arm was twisted to do saw, the only chance would have been if she'd have knocked on my door and even then they would have been slim to none ;)
You should always give people at least one chance.

;)

I thought she was absolutely charming, when she came up to shake my hand whilst I was out shopping in Accy.

:D

garinda 07-03-2011 10:31
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889877)
You should always give people at least one chance.

;)

I thought she was absolutely charming, when she came up to shake my hand whilst I was out shopping in Accy.

:D

Though oddly, besides the handshake, she didn't thank me for all the work I did to help raise her profile locally.

After she had been so cruelly snubbed by nearly all of the Conservative supporters in Hyndburn.

:rolleyes:

jaysay 07-03-2011 10:34
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889877)
You should always give people at least one chance.

;)

I thought she was absolutely charming, when she came up to shake my hand whilst I was out shopping in Accy.

:D
And of course you vote for her:rolleyes:

garinda 07-03-2011 11:38
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 889879)
And of course you vote for her:rolleyes:
No, as posted earlier, I decide which candidate is the best option on the day, after careful consideration.

Last May I voted for Graham Jones, and Peter Britcliffe.

Giving my vote to two local lads...and Accy Web members.

;)

lancsdave 07-03-2011 13:39
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We have now got a petition going for re-opening ( yes we are still bleating Cllr Haworth ) . There is one in our shop, the newsagents next door and the kiosk on the corner so far.

BERNADETTE 07-03-2011 13:48
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I will make sure I sign one when next in town:)

garinda 07-03-2011 14:04
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889915)
We have now got a petition going for re-opening ( yes we are still bleating Cllr Haworth ) . There is one in our shop, the newsagents next door and the kiosk on the corner so far.
There'll definitely be two more signatures added tomorrow.

gynn 07-03-2011 14:47
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 888455)
Coun Dobson says the penny hasnt dropped that the closure is to drive trade to the market hall. What's wrong with that, he said? [via Twitter]
If the closure of the Peel Street toilets was to drive trade into the market hall, where councillors (or their family members) would benefit financially from the increased footfall, then they would have declared an interest.

Wouldn't they?

garinda 07-03-2011 14:51
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 889950)
If the closure of the Peel Street toilets was to drive trade into the market hall, where councillors (or their family members) would benefit financially from the increased footfall, then they would have declared an interest.

Wouldn't they?
Two have, apparently.

accyman 07-03-2011 14:59
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889925)
There'll definitely be two more signatures added tomorrow.
one written with your left hand and one with your right :D

garinda 07-03-2011 15:11
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 889962)
one written with your left hand and one with your right :D
You may jest, but because I've got Parkinson's disease signing my names a bit of a nightmare. With either hand.

Luckily there's nothing wrong with my voice, and after explaining the whole sorry fiasco, my companion tomorrow will be eager to sign as well.

She might even hold the petition for me, whilst I attempt to scrawl my moniker.

:D

gynn 07-03-2011 15:31
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889952)
Two have, apparently.
Where? There were declarations of interest at the Council meeting on 18th January, but that was over the question of Wednesday opening and two weeks before the toilets were closed.

No interests were declared at the Cabinet meeting on 8th February, nor the Resources Overview and Scrutiny meeting on 15th February, nor the Council meeting on 1st March.

lancsdave 07-03-2011 15:33
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Was the decision about the toilets actually brought up at a council meeting or was it a decision made elsewhere ?

accyman 07-03-2011 15:34
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889965)
You may jest, but because I've got Parkinson's disease signing my names a bit of a nightmare. With either hand.

Luckily there's nothing wrong with my voice, and after explaining the whole sorry fiasco, my companion tomorrow will be eager to sign as well.

She might even hold the petition for me, whilst I attempt to scrawl my moniker.

:D
lol ya nutter i wasnt refering to your parkinsons at worst i was insinuating you would sign twice to boost the list :D

now to show theres no hard feelings i will find you a realy large pen :D

http://www.jokefarm.com/prankplace_files/prankp23.jpg

lancsdave 07-03-2011 15:35
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889045)
The article in the Observer still claims they are saving £10,000.

Can one of the Tory councillors please inform us how this saving has been calculated ?

Toilets closure flushed away in Labour plan | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

I've not had much time to check this thread over the past few days. Can somebody trawl back for me and find where a Tory Councillor has answered my question, I think I've missed it :rolleyes:

accyman 07-03-2011 15:36
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889976)
I've not had much time to check this thread over the past few days. Can somebody trawl back for me and find where a Tory Councillor has answered my question, I think I've missed it :rolleyes:
good idea you didnt hold your breath mate you would be passed out long ago :rolleyes:

garinda 07-03-2011 15:38
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Originally Posted by gynn (Post 889971)
Where? There were declarations of interest at the Council meeting on 18th January, but that was over the question of Wednesday opening and two weeks before the toilets were closed.

No interests were declared at the Cabinet meeting on 8th February, nor the Resources Overview and Scrutiny meeting on 15th February, nor the Council meeting on 1st March.
I'm fairly sure that it was posted on here, that two councillors, Haworth and Britcliffe declared an interest, when there was a meeting regarding the Market Hall.

It's probably somewhere in the Market Hall refurbishment thread, and I think was in regards to the enforced Wednesday opening. So would have been last autumn.

I preume it was posted by an AW member who was present, so perhaps they'll confirm this.

gynn 07-03-2011 15:46
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889973)
Was the decision about the toilets actually brought up at a council meeting or was it a decision made elsewhere ?
If it was made elsewhere, but discussed at the Scrutiny Committee, then the declaration of interest should have been there. The minutes of the Scrutiny Committee of 15th February are clear that the Peel Street Toilets were discussed.

shillelagh 07-03-2011 15:48
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889915)
We have now got a petition going for re-opening ( yes we are still bleating Cllr Haworth ) . There is one in our shop, the newsagents next door and the kiosk on the corner so far.
i just signed it when i was down town ..... :D

jaysay 07-03-2011 17:47
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889915)
We have now got a petition going for re-opening ( yes we are still bleating Cllr Haworth ) . There is one in our shop, the newsagents next door and the kiosk on the corner so far.
If you do one on line even I could sign it Dave:D

jaysay 07-03-2011 17:49
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889965)
You may jest, but because I've got Parkinson's disease signing my names a bit of a nightmare. With either hand.

Luckily there's nothing wrong with my voice, and after explaining the whole sorry fiasco, my companion tomorrow will be eager to sign as well.

She might even hold the petition for me, whilst I attempt to scrawl my moniker.

:D
She's a lovely Lass is your Mum G:D

jaysay 07-03-2011 17:51
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 889976)
I've not had much time to check this thread over the past few days. Can somebody trawl back for me and find where a Tory Councillor has answered my question, I think I've missed it :rolleyes:
Printing those keep the bogs open T-Shirts must be taking up lots of your time Dave:D

garinda 07-03-2011 17:52
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 890002)
If you do one on line even I could sign it Dave:D
If the petition's on separate pieces of paper, I'll bring one for you to sign, and get it back to them on Saturday.

I still owe you a pie and a custard.

So two birds, one stone.

:D

jaysay 07-03-2011 17:52
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 889977)
good idea you didnt hold your breath mate you would be passed out long ago :rolleyes:
Ya that's something I don't recommend:rolleyes:

jaysay 07-03-2011 17:54
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 890008)
If the petition's on separate pieces of paper, I'll bring one for you to sign, and get it back to them on Saturday.

I still owe you a pie and a custard.

So two birds, one stone.

:D
Seems alright to me:D

Ken Moss 08-03-2011 06:58
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 889978)
I'm fairly sure that it was posted on here, that two councillors, Haworth and Britcliffe declared an interest, when there was a meeting regarding the Market Hall.

It's probably somewhere in the Market Hall refurbishment thread, and I think was in regards to the enforced Wednesday opening. So would have been last autumn.

I preume it was posted by an AW member who was present, so perhaps they'll confirm this.
Cllrs Britcliffe and Pam Barton declared an interest in the debate at full council over having a vote on 6-day trading, beyond that nothing that I can recall.

The decision to close the Peel Street toilets was apparently a Cabinet decision, it has never been put to full council for debate. A quick scan of the recent Cabinet minutes should show up if Cllr Britcliffe declared a personal and prejudicial interest although I must admit that I cannot find the reference myself.

Cabinet

garinda 08-03-2011 07:30
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 890140)
Cllrs Britcliffe and Pam Barton declared an interest in the debate at full council over having a vote on 6-day trading, beyond that nothing that I can recall.

The decision to close the Peel Street toilets was apparently a Cabinet decision, it has never been put to full council for debate. A quick scan of the recent Cabinet minutes should show up if Cllr Britcliffe declared a personal and prejudicial interest although I must admit that I cannot find the reference myself.

Cabinet

As has been posted before, if the closure was about saving money, a comperative study should have been carried out. Working out if closing the Market Hall or the Peel Street toilets would be most cost effective, before making any decision.

In to the equation they should also have compared which public toilet had the greatest ease of access, especially for those with mobility issues, as well as parents with buggies, and the fact that a whole section of people aren't allowed on to the balcony level of the Market Hall, because of age restrictions.

In the commercial world, a comperative study would have been the very first thing that was carried out, to decide where most savings could be found, with the least inconvenience to the people of the town.

Ken Moss 08-03-2011 07:48
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 890142)
In the commercial world, a comperative study would have been the very first thing that was carried out, to decide where most savings could be found, with the least inconvenience to the people of the town.
There have been several decisions taken for which I have failed to find any form of performance standards to determine success or failure. It would be my own first action before taking any commercial decision and has stood me in good stead for 10 years.

Basic scientific principles of things such as market research are something I believe in very strongly before making decisions, particularly with public money, and it is something I will continue advocating when the council eventually shifts away from Conservative control.

Gynn has identified the point regarding a prejudicial interest in making the decision to close the toilets on Peel Street, something which in any situation would be dealt with in a serious manner.

I think it is worth asking.

Benipete 08-03-2011 07:56
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 890142)
As has been posted before, if the closure was about saving money, a comperative study should have been carried out. Working out if closing the Market Hall or the Peel Street toilets would be most cost effective, before making any decision.

In to the equation they should also have compared which public toilet had the greatest ease of access, especially for those with mobility issues, as well as parents with buggies, and the fact that a whole section of people aren't allowed on to the balcony level of the Market Hall, because of age restrictions.

In the commercial world, a comperative study would have been the very first thing that was carried out, to decide where most savings could be found, with the least inconvenience to the people of the town.
There you go again putting common sense before commerce.:D

At least for one interested party.;):D:D

lancsdave 08-03-2011 11:50
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150 'bleaters' signed so far in about 8 hours of opening time

garinda 08-03-2011 12:36
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 890203)
150 'bleaters' signed so far in about 8 hours of opening time
Not a good day, so no Accy shopping today, but this bleater will sign on Saturday now.

BERNADETTE 08-03-2011 15:33
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 890203)
150 'bleaters' signed so far in about 8 hours of opening time
This here "bleater" signed, nice to meet the two of you:)

accyman 08-03-2011 15:53
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pity you cant leave a copy of teh petition outside the upstairs toilets on the day the peel street toilets are closed

not only would people be more inclined to sign but you could get an idea of how many people are actualy been diverted away from your shops

jaysay 08-03-2011 17:41
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 890232)
pity you cant leave a copy of teh petition outside the upstairs toilets on the day the peel street toilets are closed

not only would people be more inclined to sign but you could get an idea of how many people are actualy been diverted away from your shops
With logic like that accyman ya should be a councillor:D

accyman 08-03-2011 21:37
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 890248)
With logic like that accyman ya should be a councillor:D
i was begining to like you :D

jaysay 09-03-2011 09:21
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 890376)
i was begining to like you :D
Well maybe not then:D

heth 09-03-2011 10:50
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 890203)
150 'bleaters' signed so far in about 8 hours of opening time

I will come in and sign it on Monday :D

Barrie Yates 09-03-2011 15:13
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 890142)
As has been posted before, if the closure was about saving money, a comperative study should have been carried out.
Could it have been a Time & "Motion" Study?

jaysay 09-03-2011 17:48
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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 890528)
Could it have been a Time & "Motion" Study?
Love the toilet humour Barrie:D

Ken Moss 16-03-2011 08:25
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A response from one of the senior executives to my question has revealed that there do not appear to be any minutes of when the decision to close Peel Street toilets was taken. It is understood that the closure was an inherent part of the plans to refurbish the Market Hall toilets.

My point about a personal and prejudicial interest has not been answered.

Yet.

garinda 16-03-2011 09:10
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 892115)
A response from one of the senior executives to my question has revealed that there do not appear to be any minutes of when the decision to close Peel Street toilets was taken. It is understood that the closure was an inherent part of the plans to refurbish the Market Hall toilets.

My point about a personal and prejudicial interest has not been answered.

Yet.
Not offically minuted?

That sounds rather unprofessional.

Suppose that means that any real costings, rather than pulling a figure out of fresh air, will be diddly squat?

Restless 16-03-2011 21:09
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ah its your shop?

I signed it the other morning.

Im in most mornings (If i get the bus to work that is) Buying 35pence energy drinks and Frosties :D (finally found a shop with the original frosties sweets 25 years on and still 10p!!!!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 890203)
150 'bleaters' signed so far in about 8 hours of opening time

lancsdave 16-03-2011 21:17
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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 892279)
ah its your shop?

I signed it the other morning.

Im in most mornings (If i get the bus to work that is) Buying 35pence energy drinks and Frosties :D (finally found a shop with the original frosties sweets 25 years on and still 10p!!!!)

Sounds like you are describing the newsagents, we are next door :)

Restless 16-03-2011 21:19
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Dammmmmm Yeah. Why i didn't make this connection( ur sig and stuff) is beyond me. I just love frosties i guess.... and the petition was in the newsagents at the time of signing :D

lancsdave 02-04-2011 18:24
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Quick update

I believe the toilets will now re-open on a Sunday as from tomorrow. It seems the stocktaking being done by Sunday visitors has forced the issue

We need to hand the petition in, where does it go ?

shillelagh 02-04-2011 18:59
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why not hand it in to your friendly councillors ... contact the accy observer ... and get them to take a photo of you handing it over .... maybe if you hand it in at the council offices then it could be mislaid .... maybe bernard and ken and claytonender could help you out ....

heth 02-04-2011 20:44
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Yeah I agree make a fuss about handing it over and then like Shillelagh said it wont going missing! :D

shillelagh 02-04-2011 21:10
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oh and an idea maybe photocopy it before handing it over ..

jaysay 03-04-2011 09:55
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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 895676)
oh and an idea maybe photocopy it before handing it over ..
Why:confused:

cashman 03-04-2011 10:00
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 895755)
Why:confused:
cos things tend to vanish if they dont suit.:rolleyes:

jaysay 03-04-2011 10:34
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 895757)
cos things tend to vanish if they dont suit.:rolleyes:
But what purpose do they have after they've been handed in, That's why its important to get a photo of the event otherwise there is no point what-so-ever in doing the petition in the first place, its what is seen to be done not what actually is done, been there do it got the T shirt cashy and it wasn't from gift print either:D

lancsdave 04-05-2011 21:46
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Worth bringing this back up again. Don't forget to vote :)

jaysay 05-05-2011 08:36
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 903468)
Worth bringing this back up again. Don't forget to vote :)
:eek::eek:Dave, your too late, I voted last week:D

garinda 05-05-2011 08:39
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One flush for a change in power at H.B.C.

Two flushes to maintain the staus quo.

jaysay 05-05-2011 08:52
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 903546)
One flush for a change in power at H.B.C.

Two flushes to maintain the staus quo.
Steady Tiger, don't break out in a hot flush;)

lancsdave 06-05-2011 08:03
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Can we have a sign taking down ceremony please ? :D

Ken Moss 06-05-2011 09:37
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 903855)
Can we have a sign taking down ceremony please ? :D
Of course, the brass plaques!

Who's for a weigh in?

flashy 06-05-2011 09:44
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They've probably already vanished, he's probably taken them considering his considerable pay decrease

lancsdave 24-05-2011 19:14
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Extract From Miles Parkinson's opening speech tonight

Quote:
promise to deliver 0% council tax, reopen peel street toilets, review area councils and spending [via Twitter]
A victory for common sense :D

Ken Moss 24-05-2011 23:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 908570)
A victory for common sense :D
The move to Thursday nights and the inclusion of Graham Jones MP was apparently universally panned by the Conservatives on the basis that it would be rather harsh on The Accrington Observer reporting 6 days later and that he isn't an elected member of the council. Stuart Pike seemingly in agreement on the newspaper front if Twitter is anything to go by.

I still maintain that a concise council meeting adopting a more respectful code of conduct is of more use not only to the borough but also the councillors who are present and may not necessarily be as aware of county and national issues as is assumed.

There is nothing to hide here. Graham Jones got well in excess of 14,000 votes on his own, more than the entire Tory group and a sizeable part of the Labour group as well.

If he isn't representative of the electorate's views then I don't know who is.

jaysay 25-05-2011 06:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 908614)
The move to Thursday nights and the inclusion of Graham Jones MP was apparently universally panned by the Conservatives on the basis that it would be rather harsh on The Accrington Observer reporting 6 days later and that he isn't an elected member of the council. Stuart Pike seemingly in agreement on the newspaper front if Twitter is anything to go by.

I still maintain that a concise council meeting adopting a more respectful code of conduct is of more use not only to the borough but also the councillors who are present and may not necessarily be as aware of county and national issues as is assumed.

There is nothing to hide here. Graham Jones got well in excess of 14,000 votes on his own, more than the entire Tory group and a sizeable part of the Labour group as well.

If he isn't representative of the electorate's views then I don't know who is.
In that case do away with 35 councillors why the hell do we need them.

steeljack 25-05-2011 06:15
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promise to deliver 0% council tax, reopen peel street toilets, review area councils and spending [via Twitter]

promise to deliver 0% council tax . Wow .. one phrase comes to mind " Your a better man than me Gunga Din " ;) :D

jaysay 25-05-2011 06:31
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 908636)
promise to deliver 0% council tax, reopen peel street toilets, review area councils and spending [via Twitter]

promise to deliver 0% council tax . Wow .. one phrase comes to mind " Your a better man than me Gunga Din " ;) :D
The Tories did it last year and and again this year, they couldn't say anything else, bet it goes up next April though;)

lancsdave 25-05-2011 06:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 908636)
promise to deliver 0% council tax, reopen peel street toilets, review area councils and spending [via Twitter]

promise to deliver 0% council tax . Wow .. one phrase comes to mind " Your a better man than me Gunga Din " ;) :D

I think it was a deliberate mistake by the Observer twitterer at the instruction of PB so he could hold them to it. It should have said 0% increase but again we already knew that because the government said so :)

lancsdave 09-06-2011 13:59
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Apparently there will be something in the Observer this week, and the toilets will be open again full time from next Monday :)

lancsdave 09-06-2011 15:31
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I've just read the article in the Observer. It's hard not to laugh at the drivel a certain ex-council leader can come out with :D

BERNADETTE 09-06-2011 17:08
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Common sense prevails at last:)

garinda 09-06-2011 18:59
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Are the council going to hire Lulu to cut the tissue ribbon, at a grand reopening ceremony?

:D

garinda 09-06-2011 19:01
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Accrington - Floral Toilet Town.

cashman 09-06-2011 20:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 911303)
Are the council going to hire Lulu to cut the tissue ribbon, at a grand reopening ceremony?

:D
Be much better n more attended if they invited the former leader to re-open em, promising a new medal n Observer attending.:dflam::D

shillelagh 10-06-2011 00:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 911274)
I've just read the article in the Observer. It's hard not to laugh at the drivel a certain ex-council leader can come out with :D

i didnt bother trying not to laugh ..... i just hope i didnt wake the neighbours up ....:D:D

jaysay 10-06-2011 08:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 911317)
Be much better n more attended if they invited the former leader to re-open em, promising a new medal n Observer attending.:dflam::D
I've heard on the grapevine he's far too busy making new Voodoo dolls of Jonesie and co.:D

lancsdave 10-06-2011 09:49
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Here's the article for anybody who wants to read it.

http://menmedia.co.uk/accringtonobse...centre-toilets

The last couple of lines puzzle me

Quote:
It will now cost everyone in the district an awful lot of money just to spend a penny. There is plenty of money to do it without hitting every ward.”
If there's plenty of money to do it, why did they shut them in the first place :confused:

garinda 10-06-2011 11:19
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Well done Dave for leading the fight, so that people once again have a pot to pee in.

Now that's achieved, shall we start another Facebook Campaign?

Heated seats?

Piped music?

Potpourri?

Free refreshments available in there, courtesy of Coffee Beanz?

:D

Tealeaf 10-06-2011 14:24
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An interesting quote from the Wizard of Ossy in the Observer. However, I do wonder if the local rag may have made another error in it's typography. Surely the third from last word in Britcliffe's statement should begin with a 'S', not a 'H'?

Bee 10-06-2011 15:48
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Its good they've reopened!.

jaysay 10-06-2011 17:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 911382)
Well done Dave for leading the fight, so that people once again have a pot to pee in.

Now that's achieved, shall we start another Facebook Campaign?

Heated seats?

Piped music?

Potpourri?

Free refreshments available in there, courtesy of Coffee Beanz?

:D
With a T shirt provided:D

garinda 10-06-2011 19:05
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 911455)
With a T shirt provided:D
That'd going too far.

Izal will do.

:D

jaysay 11-06-2011 09:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 911469)
That'd going too far.

Izal will do.

:D
Izal :eek::eek::eek: do they still make it:do-one:

JCB 11-06-2011 17:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 911554)
Izal :eek::eek::eek: do they still make it:do-one:
According to Carbolic Soap Company Izal is no longer manufactured .

Asda and the stall in the market hall run by John stopped selling it about 6 months ago . :mad::(:cursing:

jaysay 12-06-2011 08:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCB (Post 911607)
According to Carbolic Soap Company Izal is no longer manufactured .

Asda and the stall in the market hall run by John stopped selling it about 6 months ago . :mad::(:cursing:
thank god for that:D

Ken Moss 03-07-2011 10:38
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Why's that, John? Didn't you find it as comfortable as schoolchildren have over the past 100 years?

Just been sent this photo by a mate, will put it to the council as an idea:

Attachment 17988

jaysay 04-07-2011 09:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 916343)
Why's that, John? Didn't you find it as comfortable as schoolchildren have over the past 100 years?

Just been sent this photo by a mate, will put it to the council as an idea:

Attachment 17988
We always used Palm olive mate:D

Ken Moss 04-07-2011 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 916487)
We always used Palm olive mate:D
I was actually referring to Izal toilet paper which was greasy and abrasive and possibly the least suitable material for cleaning body parts that it is possible to come up with.

That is one part of my childhood that I do not look back on fondly.

jaysay 04-07-2011 09:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 916491)
I was actually referring to Izal toilet paper which was greasy and abrasive and possibly the least suitable material for cleaning body parts that it is possible to come up with.

That is one part of my childhood that I do not look back on fondly.
Funny you should mention Izal Ken. Izal was once produced in Ossy, by a firm called Hygiene Supplies, the Firm was owned by a chap called Herbert Walsh and the factory was on Stonebridge Lane, my mother worked their until the place shut in I would think the mid sixties when the soft toilet paper was beginning to take off and with this guy being in his 70s he decided to close down as he could afford the new machinery that was needed to compete in the new market although Izal was still being used in Hospitals until I would think the 90s, Mind you Izal wasn't the only toilet tissue made by that firm I think the must have made around 70 different rolls of Toilet paper, well the same paper with different labels, at one time they employed about 25 women and 2 men

garinda 04-07-2011 10:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 916494)
Funny you should mention Izal Ken. Izal was once produced in Ossy, by a firm called Hygiene Supplies, the Firm was owned by a chap called Herbert Walsh and the factory was on Stonebridge Lane, my mother worked their until the place shut in I would think the mid sixties when the soft toilet paper was beginning to take off and with this guy being in his 70s he decided to close down as he could afford the new machinery that was needed to compete in the new market although Izal was still being used in Hospitals until I would think the 90s, Mind you Izal wasn't the only toilet tissue made by that firm I think the must have made around 70 different rolls of Toilet paper, well the same paper with different labels, at one time they employed about 25 women and 2 men
Soft loo roll only took off round here when you didn't have to run down the backyard to the long-drop, or the tippler.

Our damp weather conditions may have been good for working cotton, but was no good for tissue kept in an outside privy.

Unlike the impervious Izal, which remained hard and scratchy whatever the weather.

:bootyshak

Neil 04-07-2011 10:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 916494)
at one time they employed about 25 women and 2 men
Not a bad ratio that, 2 managers and 25 workers :rolleyes::D

garinda 04-07-2011 10:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 916513)
Not a bad ratio that, 2 managers and 25 workers :rolleyes::D

Unless the two were testers. Employed because they needed their arses wiping.

Right sisters?

(God I shameless. I'll do anything to appeal to the greater majority.)

:D

lancsdave 05-10-2015 19:30
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Thought I would resurrect this thread for future reference


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