Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881300)

Have you any influence on them at all Less?

Wouldn't they stand up and be counted against the extremists?
Because that is what is needed....for every moderate muslim to stand up and proclaim their stance against extremism.....but it won't happen, culturally they won't go against their own kind...no matter what atrocities are committed in the name of Islam.

For goodness sake, many of them don't even speak our language.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 881362)

Bit more detail from last night's telegraph, Alan :

Man 'left to die' in alleyway after Accrington stabbing (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 881116)

Two different issues.

Powell's speech was about immigration, this is about state aided multiculturalism.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 880860)

It is a refreshing change, but I will wait, because so far it is only words.

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 881400)

And only words they will remain , like Gordon Brown's criticism of multicuturalism when he called for a national debate about Britishness on 13th Jan 2007 .

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 881400)

And only words they will remain , like Gordon Brown's criticism of multicuturalism when he called for a national debate about Britishness on 13th Jan 2007 .

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881406)

That is what I fear.

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 881250)

A Labour politician did speak about what Cameron said..

"Sadiq Khan, a prominent Muslim Labour MP, accused the PM of “writing propaganda for the EDL”."

David Cameron accused of far-right propaganda by saying UK too tolerant of extreme Muslim beliefs - mirror.co.uk

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 881256)

Is it not taken as given from the quote I just posted?

I agree with what Cameron said and it's pathetic that these issues can't be raised without someone jumping up and denouncing him as a far-right extremist.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 881407)

Well, you now have a name, perhaps once you've been in touch you and he can make this a safer world for all of us?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881412)

Perhaps even a hint of sacasm there too.

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 881424)

Populist David Cameron in his speech in Munich is following in the footsteps of the populist Neville Chamberlain who made his famous agreement in Munich .

In both cases both were just empty words .

Originally Posted by Less (Post 881415)

I posted from my mobile, otherwise there would have been a great big sloppy smilie just for you.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 881431)

He could make a start by ordering Government departments to keep all documents and forms in English only, thus cutting the costs of translating into Urdu, Gudjurati, Polish and myriad different languages and directing local councils to do the same.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 881431)

He could make a start by ordering Government departments to keep all documents and forms in English only, thus cutting the costs of translating into Urdu, Gudjurati, Polish and myriad different languages and directing local councils to do the same.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881428)

It is very gratifying to know that Less. Heartwarming even.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 881431)

He could make a start by ordering Government departments to keep all documents and forms in English only, thus cutting the costs of translating into Urdu, Gudjurati, Polish and myriad different languages and directing local councils to do the same.

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 881447)

not breaking a habit of a life time the tories doing the opposite of what they are saying BBC News - Free schools 'divisive' says Manchester anti-extremism tsar plus this encourages apartheid schooling ..

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 881459)

Less and Heartwarming in the same sentence Margaret, now that is bloody frightening:D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 881460)

Totally agree Wyn, if you or me went to live in Spain, Italy or any other country, we would have to pay for a translator to help sort our problems out, ask cashy about that one

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 881479)

It was a 'tongue in cheek' comment John, so don't worry.

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 881480)

It is certainly the case in France, although some towns/cities employ English workers in the Mairie (sort of a Town Hall).

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 881492)

As I've said before, the language issue is the main focus. All persons whoever or from wherever who decide to settle in another Country should learn that Countries Language (at their own cost) to a reasonable enough level so as to be able to understand & communicate with the relevant agencies.

The constant pandering by interfering individuals has led the UK into the morass it now finds itself in ! I don't know of any other European Country that goes to the extreme levels of compliance to foreigners wishes as the UK. They chose to come to UK so have an obligation to assimilate & not the other way round. This stance is neither racist/phobic or unrealistic to my view & is the least of courtesies a non National can show in deference to a host Country.

I decided to live in Germany & was then expected to adopt & speak their language (for everyday use) as all paperwork is in German that is part of my obligation due to being a guest in their Country. I spend time in Holland & as such any official paperwork I am required to fill out is in Dutch, I don't make an issue about it I get on with & accept it ! Should I have difficulty I ask Dutch Friends for assistance & I certainly don't demand or expect an interpreter or for the paperwork to be in English, I have to adapt & have no problem doing so as it's a simple expedient that assists with my contribution to the society in which I presently reside.