Hyndburn Local Elections - 5th May
 

As you're all aware, this Thursday sees the local elections taking place across the borough. Most of you probably have a vague idea of which way I personally would prefer you to vote but I urge you all to go and cast your ballot, regardless of political persuasion.

This is the best opportunity for residents to voice their opinion - please don't waste it.

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good lad

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No voting in my ward this year except for the AV.

I think its time they aligned all the voting into one to make it easier and cheaper.

Every 4 years should be Local, County, Parish, Government and whatever I have missed elections all at the same time and voting should be compulsory like in Australia

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Nice idea and it would certainly be cheaper but the problem then comes from people suddenly being hit with several candidates and it would enable badge-wearing acolytes to coast in to power even more easily.

To take Rishton as an example, we would have at least six councillor candidates, two county candidates and another nine parliamentary candidates (based on last year). Suddenly, people would be bombarded with literature which doesn't focus on the individual but the party. I find it unlikely that many voters would go to the Rishton polls and vote for Labour councillors, a Tory county councillor and a Labour MP, they'd vote all Labour or all Tory, probably without knowing much about at least one of the candidates.

A definite no from me, it would simply generate more layabout councillors.

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The question that hovers for me regarding Kenweb is whether or not we'll see an influx of mysterious new Conservative posters should control of the council shift.

Roll on Friday!

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I forgot it was Friday, I hate election night at the back end of the week :(

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Here we go again , putting down the 'thick' peons ,sounds like you don't have much faith in the intelligence of the Rishton electorate :rolleyes: ;)

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And you would have to spread your door knockers out thinner.

You might get a better turn out at the polls as well if it was just once every 4 years

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Read it again, SJ. Putting three councillor candidates up in Rishton would allow a party to muddy the water about what each one actually stood for, you would essentially be putting up a team instead of making individuals personally accountable.

In three years, the Rishton electorate with either think I'm suitable to have for another term or haven't pulled my weight enough to warrant four more years at the taxpayer's expense. If I lose I'd rather they identify that I was a deadweight than think the Labour team in Hyndburn are no good which is what would be more likely if you elect three at once.

I'm hoping that I don't end the up the victim of the 'deadweight' option but you never know....

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That I don't follow. There'd still be the same number of doorknockers in each ward but instead of canvassing for one you'd be canvassing for several at once under the broader party banner.

Local politics really should be about individuals more than party colours, in my opinion.

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Seems we always agree when things are logically correct, with the currant way the council can change 3 times in 4 years, which is the best way really

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I'll still be here come rain or shine Ken, but I may just have a little more steel, depending on the outcome:dflam: :D

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We had our general election yesterday, and the changes are so significant and complex, that to explain Canadian federal politics to a Brit would now be as difficult as explaining the rules of cricket to someone in Moose Jaw.;):D

But Ken is right: what is important is that folks vote. If you don't cast a ballot, you should give up the privelege of bitching at whoever is elected. As to the system in Australia: I don't like it or agree with it. Sometimes, and in certain cases, a reasoned decision not to vote is a fair comment on the options available on the ballot. One could, of course, go into the booth and scribble "None of these crooked sonsabitches is worth a vote.":)

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How many wards are there in Rishton?

My thoughts were that in my ward there is no election so those that normally canvass my ward can be used elsewhere. If all the wards had to be done they would be thinner on the ground

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I think its a terrible idea. Those that are in dont have enough time to put into action any longer term plans without rushing them in to try and keep in favour to stay in 12 months later.

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Rishton is one massive area, the biggest single ward in Hyndburn and has three councillors. Ossy is split into three wards with two councillors in each but generally it is down to each ward's members to canvass their own patch.

To be blunt, canvassing for your next election should start the day after you get in.

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Although technically control of the council can shift 3 times in 4 years, I think Jay was more on about the makeup of the council not being the same for more than 12 months. Some of the councillors at the moment don't seem to actually make much of a contribution until elections loom, it's a way of keeping us on our toes.

I, on the other hand, cannot be silenced. I think it's badly wound up at least two elected members.

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No councillor seats up for grabs in my ward.

Will drag my sorry arse to the polling station, to vote NO to AV.

Good luck to any Accy Webber councillors who are up for re-election.

Ken Moss would get my vote, irrespective of which party he was representing.

As would Bernard, Claytonender, or Judith Addison.

Local politics should be about people, not national party politics.

(Ken would only not get my vote if he speaking in tongues, and was standing under the Loony Logan banner.)

:D

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I know one like that, no names mentioned of course

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Guilty as charged, I promise you will be hearing much MUCH more from me in the coming months....

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Stop being so bashful, and too afraid of speaking what's on your mind.

;)

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Why, are you up for leader of the local party?

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I need to watch that, holding my tongue when a few well-chosen words could have got my point across in an erudite, forthright and incisive way.

If only I'd stood up for myself a bit sooner....

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Totally agree Rindy - have met Ken and Bernard but not the other two so cannot comment on them, but the first two definitely my kind pf people.:)

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No, I'll leave that to Miles Parkinson, someone infinitely better suited to the position than I am.

I'm looking forward to continuing my crusade against wasteful spending though.

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Whoops, not forgetting another Accy Web member Wendybd.

Wendy Dwyer, who inspires me to be better.

A better what, remains to be seen.

:rolleyes:

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Rev Kev not do it for you then? Something less preachy for sir?

Red Ken (as I understand I am referred to, amongst other names) will start delivering a non-sectarian Monday Monologue in the annals of Kenweb so that your void can be filled with an alternative and more palatable rhetoric.

Or perhaps not.

I could just get on with improving the borough, that do you?

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Out of interest I have just looked at the Hyndburn website to see who the candidates up for election were.
This info will fit on an A4 page but it will take you 20 minutes to go through each individual ward. Why?:confused:

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A classic local government administration technique. They make it as complicated as possible to give the impression they are doing an important job. That way they can justify their staffing levels.

I spent 30 years doing it.

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Good luck to your party, Ken. i appreciate the vote's are about individuals, but a change of control would be bloody fabulous/

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Thank you, we think so too!

It will mean a phenomenal increase in workload for each of us but it will be completely and utterly worth it, after all that's what we originally signed up for.

Here's hoping enough people in Hyndburn vote to make that happen on Thursday.

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Bets within the council are that the tory's will hang on, i so hope it isn't true.

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Thankfully, I know that significant internal bets are also running in our favour as well.

One way or another tomorrow night there will be tears before bedtime.

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Your going to be busy then if past administrations under another colour are anything to go by;)

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Don't worry Mate I'll send you a couple of boxes of man sized tissues just in case:D

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So I can dish them out to the Tories?

Loyal to the last, John.

;)

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Na they usually have plenty of them from wiping away tears of laughter :D

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just one thing to say .. its election day tomorrow ... and whats the weather forecast

Tomorrow will be mostly cloudy with a few outbreaks of rain now and again, these perhaps more persistent for a time in the afternoon; Turning drier again by evening.

(from the bbc website!!!)

Typical ..:p:p:p

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Well off to vote soon and its gonna be a big fat NO to AV off me!! :D

No locals up in my area so quick in and out

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I see Accyweb isn't letting me post anything lengthy again today.

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The Tories are putting out literature stating that Labour will increase council tax and introduce car parking charges, neither of which are true.

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As for car parking charges, that was a passing idea 12 years ago and has never been considered since.

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Raising council tax is not in any borough's best interest as we would lose a large government grant if we did.

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Please help us to help Hyndburn, vote any which way but blue today.

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well at least accy web is helping build your post count Ken:D

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See Labour have a new way of delivering leaflets, got one through my door last night wrapped in another takeaway menu from Blackburn Road, different;)

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Well I got an invite to the Conservative party AGM from Peter Britcliffe in my internal mail yesterday asking me what position I would like to apply for.

What an excellent Conservative council, they don't even know which members aren't theirs.

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I thought that was standard practice, aimed as it is at their core voters & supporter base ! :D

Yes, I know, baseless generalised stereotyping, but mildly amusing. ;)

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It's about time we had a good scandal.

http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/u074.gif

What position will you be taking up?

:D

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Has the next mayor been fingered yet?

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I've voted NO in the refendum but I am not voting in the Council Election .

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Could be PB:D

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He must think your more Tory than Labour, Ken, or it could of been a case of letting you edge your bets mate:D

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It's a toss up between Mohamed and Hussein so it looks like the price of root ginger,fresh coriander and garlic will remain stable who ever wins.;):D:D

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Kens just text me, he's having trouble posting on here for some reason

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[quote=Ken Moss;903203]Rev Kev not do it for you then? Something less preachy for sir?

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Go wash your mouth out with something strong and sudsy........Rev Kev......what a joke!

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fine ...... so far!!!:p

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Its fine up your end Jen, i'm practically outside your house lol

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come on folks .. get out and vote .. then you can all complain as much as you want ... as ive always said .. if you dont vote then dont complain when things get bad ....:p

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Chief Whip?

I somehow doubt that being inside a Cabinet with a Conservative Leader would be good for me.

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No councillors standing in our ward ( Peel ) as we still Bernard in, though have braved the rain and voted yes to a change!

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Is this "change" the proportional voting thing?

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Tell ya what Jen its usually them as don't vote who do all the moaning:D

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Got it in one Eric

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No to AV.

Have not voted Blue or Red .. just our local Independent. Ok, he's a bit of a divvy, but know he cares about our little community.

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Hey, not all colonials is dumb ... and I got Ossy blood in me too:eek: Any Websters left in town?

Proportional voting is a great idea, one whose time has not yet arrived.

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No, he always walks that way :eek::D

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Don't think so Eric new Mr. Webster the plumber (can remember his first name for the life in me) and his lovely wife Gladys, two sons one was called Ronnie and the other david (I think) My Webster died a long long time ago, nearly sure Gladys is too, she was in a nursing home in Rishton but that was a few years ago, one of the sons live down the Ribble Valley not sure where the other one is though

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Well I voted this morning No, I agree with Jen if you dont vote you cant really winge.

Lets see what happens eh? :D

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Went to school with a Ronnie Webster ... think I was vaguely related to him ....

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By the way, when will the results start coming in?

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Polling stations open until 2200 hrs, so some time after that, with possibly early guesstimates around the witching hour. :)

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Mmmm ... that would be 5 more minutes.

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Ya Ronnie was my age Eric, remembered his dads name now it was Dick Webster ran his own plumbing business in Ossy for years lived on Ward Avenue for years

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Well I did make the effort to get there but found It rather intimidating so I left, place was full of people talking in a strange language and not a PC in sight.:confused:

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I think that my gran, Mabel Webster was Dick's aunt. She died in the early 50s from cancer. My grandad bought her a tv, but she died 6 weeks before Holme Moss started transmitting, and the poor woman never got to watch it.

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Was that police constable Beni;)

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Where are they counting/announcing the results??

Can anyone pop down to be there?

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Wasn't it Ernie Webster, the plumber? We all went to the same church.

AV isn't Google Page Ranking.

I voted NO to change.

I don't like our current first past the post system.

However, I can see no positives in the AV.

It would still mean many peoples' votes don't count.

But their third choice vote just might.

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Any word on the street, what the turn out is?

So exciting.

Might stay up all night.

YouTube - D:ream - things can only get better

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sorry mani the count is ticket only .. the candidates and the agents and their supporters, councillors get a ticket, and the mayor ...

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I wonder if the plan to film it's going ahead, as was discussed?

:rolleyes:

You going Shill?

You can be our Peter Snow, keeping us informed.

Don't forget your swing-o-meter.

:D

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really. wow.

so i can go in as one of the supporters? *L*

shame. i was expecting a fire work or two.

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Just got back in, ready for a wash and brush up.

Camera loaded and on standby, watch this space.

Turnout predictably not as high as last year.

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no im not .... im in rossendale remember ......:p ours is being counted tomorrow ... and i'll be safely tucked up in bed .. waiting for the text messages to start .... :p

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It'll all be best bib, and tucker then.

Since it's turned chiller, you might get a glimpse of muff.


;)

Good luck, one and all.

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The turn out for a local election seems quite high. The referendum vote may have helped.

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Shame you weren't able to use the polling station at Haworth Art Gallery

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The returning officer for Hyndburn Borough Council, Jane Ellis, said it was a pre-arranged back-up plan in case of any emergencies.


aye alreet, course it was

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just incase anyone fancies seeing the votes come in....when they do

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...stituency/147/

it's supposed to be a live count thing

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Bye bye Mayor Pritchard.

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Well done Miles Parkinson, Labour leader. Hope you're council leader soon.

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milnshaw, central and altham and barnfield all labour ....

malcom pritchard and paul barton both lost their seats ....

huncoat is still independent ... with dave parkins

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hoho!!

central was a land slide in the end!!

thats a real real drubbing there.

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add to the labour seats church as well

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conservatives hold immanuel

labour has got rishton

independents have got clayton

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Silence from the tories.. as that old wreck of a not so plastic tory says .." sing when your winning.. you only sing when your winning" .. :D

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labour has got overton

conservative held baxenden

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So, as of now, what's the big picture:confused: And how does it look like the new council will stack up?

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its now a labour council eric .....

and conservatives hold st oswalds ...

thats the last one in ....