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Apologies to those loyal to the old regime but I've just been sent this link:

Defeated council leader was so bitter that he tried to stop successor using "his desk" | Political Scrapbook

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When you leave school, aren't you just meant to carve your name on the desk you used, not drag it home across the playground?

Sort of behaviour that means you lose a goal post, when one little chap takes his jumper away, when he fancies a go on the slide, instead of playing footy.

:rolleyes::D

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Doubt if anyones shocked!, a prat is a prat, in or out of office. am amazed he has any loyalty at all, from his own lot.:confused:

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D!ck head

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Well, what can you say to that ?? :D :D Crushingly blunt but to the point.

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Made me laugh out loud.

:D

Though she's naughty, and we know she loves her uncle really.

:D

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*Shaz walks away clicking her fingers to the Addams family theme tune*

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And now for something really interesting

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Now that is simply stupidity in its highest form.

You simply can't teach class

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Typical action of a person with narcissistic personality disorder

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Was the Leaders Medal in the desk drawer ?

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Na I think its an item on the next edition of Bargain Hunt Dave:D

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Why did the council staff take any notice of him, the day after he lost his title, half a Nori in a sock would have settled the matter in seconds, but then again might not, some folk are as thick as a plank.
Joking apart, why was he allowed to act like he did, is there no one in authority in the Clown hall.

Retlaw.

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What made me laugh was the fact that he thinks he's going to be voted back in......he needs certifying

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in the real world yes he does, but yeh just never know, wi all his ass lickers who cannot see any wrong in the guy.:eek:

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Shaz I prefer the half a nori in a sock that Retlaw suggested....it works for me! :)

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I wish someone would actually do it though Marg

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They shouldn't be loyal to this prat, had it on good authority that when he found out he had lost, he immediately asked the Labourites if he could join them so as to remain in office, he got a resounding "NO", this "man" is lower than a snakes belly, and should never be allowed to run Accy again.

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He should have just picked up his ball and left, or maybe he doesn't have any?

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On a family forum that should be: "Richard Cranium";)

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Do all HBC Labour councillors have shaved heads and wear steel toe capped 'bovver' boy boots or just the one ones looking for promotion in the SA :eek: ;)

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Na only Mossy:D

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Oi! Leave my steel toecaps out of this.

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In polite company I use "Richard le Bonce".
Retlaw.

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I didn't think they let your sort into "Polite Company".... :D

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He has his own VIP pass, half a Nori in a sock :D

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It has happened in the past, but mostly by accident. :tongueout:tongueout:tongueout
Retlaw

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still doesn't look like he is learning to lose graciously, found this from tonight's council meeting

:rolleyes:

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this childish knob wanted to represent us.:rolleyes:

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Perhaps they were discussing who's going to be who, in next year's panto.

Talking of old Dames.

Isn't it usual for those who run borough councils, after their services are no longer required, to get a gong?

Or is that self-awarded medal in place of some greater recognition?

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Good they usually strike gongs with a hammer, the bigger the hammer the better. Can I wield the hammer.
Retlaw.

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I'll toss yeh fer it retlaw.

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and I'll fight you both for the honour!

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yes bless he did but his party clearly didnt want him to!!!! Any one seen the telegraph today & the panto dame's excuse for not vacating the leaders office asap. You couldnt make it up, well actually you could

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Seems hes about as popular as a "Fart in a Spacesuit"?

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Unfortunately, the details of Mr Britcliffes ejection from the council chamber are still a little sparse. Can anyone give more information? When ordered to leave, did Mr Britcliffe take it like a man and walk out, head held high and with a proud smile on his face? Or did start screaming and shouting, becoming hysterical and grasping his old chair with screeching fingernails, yelling out 'I don't want to go, I don't want to go.....' as a couple of burly men safely armlocked him and took the by now physical and mental wreck off the premises?

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It wasn't because he called the Mayor a silly cow was it:rolleyes::D

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Well Cllr Miles Parkinson won't .

To his credit he has declined to comment on the matter .

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Haven't you seen the mini-movie, made by a film making local councillor?

The death of Bambi's mother?

Thatcher leaving Downing Street, wet cheeked, after being ousted?

The Queen watching Britannia being decommissioned?

Forget 'em.

This is much more likey to produce tears.

YouTube - ‪Hyndburn Election Count 2011‬‏

http://www.myemoticons.com/images/em...nto-tissue.gif

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Swine..........yeh broke me heart.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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the observer still puts photos of him in ... though not as big or as prominent ....:p

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***WARNING PICTURE OF PB WHEN YOU OPEN LINK***

Hyndburn former leader denies he refused to give up office (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Had to put the warning on for those of a nervous nature!!! :D

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"He would say that wouldn't he" - Mandy Rice Davies

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It wasn't the most dignified of exits and I understand that although the power of ejection has always been the right of the Mayor it has never been used before last night.

Graham Jones gave a very informative presentation on several parliamentary matters and I think that the vast majority present on both sides of the chamber found it useful. Regrettably, Cllr Britcliffe chose instead to leaf through the documents in his handbag and tear up papers as the MP spoke, seemingly mouthing to his councillors that Graham was being boring. Of course it could be that he was referring to the contents of his papers and I have completely misread his body language but personally speaking I thought he acted in a very ill-mannered way.

Full credit to the Conservative councillors as the remainder of the meeting was conducted in an extremely civil fashion, with excellent questions on The Green Deal coming from Cllrs Dobson and Marlene Haworth which provided useful answers for us all.

There simply isn't room for childish interjections by councillors and I welcome removal of any member from the chamber who sees fit to be a disruptive element of any future meeting.

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So were his eyes bulging and was he frothing at the mouth?

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I wouldn't quite go that far but his conduct towards the Mayor was not what I would class as respectful. Cllr Britcliffe is the only councillor that I have witnessed drive both the current and previous Mayors to stand up and command silence from the chamber because of his behaviour, something which he seemingly refused to acknowledge.

Whatever personal feelings a councillor may have, the Mayor's decisions override us all and to fight against that not only creates antagonistic meetings but reflects very badly on any member who does so.

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Kate Watkins' Accrington Observer Twitter feed from last night can be found here:

Replay - Hyndburn Council meeting | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

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Surely there is a code of conduct to which all councillors must subscribe? If so, I would have assumed that next to physically assaulting other members, the deliberate disruption of a full council meeting would warrent more than ejection from the chamber but a deprivation of council facilities and as such the withdrawal of financial allowances, until a full and grovelling apology was forthcoming?

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The behaviour of members is generally of a standard that has made the code of conduct into something which isn't looked at very often but recent council meetings have been so heated that it has been dug out of the archives for reappraisal.

Miles Parkinson is very keen to get away from what is referred to as 'Punch and Judy' politics and so Pantomime Dame performances are likely to become more and more unacceptable in full council from now on.

I welcome it, it demeans the entire council when any member makes comments which are apparently intended to provide a platform for charged political posturing.

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I think we all welcome It.:thankya:

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Noble sentiments, Ken - but is that enough? Is it now not time for disgraceful beheaviour such as that exhibited last night to be firmly stamped on in order to avoid any further repetition? Councillor Britcliffe should now be made an example of by way of a formal warning, in writing, that misconduct will not be tolerated.

I suggest the mayor sends a letter to the councillor demanding an apology, which in the interests of transparency copies of which should be made to the LT and AO and likewise his reply and full apology - if and when forthcoming - should be copied to the said organs.

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Interesting points although to be honest I don't personally know enough about formal reprimands to make a proper comment on this. It would probably be something for the Mayor to decide and I wouldn't be inclined to try and influence her actions on this. If you as a resident find it to be a matter worth pursuing in the interests of the borough then I would not try to dissuade you from contacting the Mayor directly:

Councillors - Colette McCormack

Personally speaking, if any member wants to behave like this and expect to retain any sort of respect from the public then for my money you can carry on being ejected from the council chamber in full view of the borough's press.

It isn't something which an 'inexperienced' councillor such as myself would do.

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I think it's a little bit more important than gaining respect (whatever that means in a political context) from the public. Irrespective of party allegiances, we expect our elected representatives to fully engage in the democratic process when reaching the decisions that affect us all. Attempts to sabotage and undermine that process can take various forms in the non-democratic spectrum, of which violent rioting lies in the middle and terrorism at one end. At the other end is the deliberate disruption of meetings of elected bodies, such as occured yesterday and as such it is my opinion that those involved in such actions should be barred from participation when and until they learn the rules.

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It was voted on in fairly rapid succession to bar Cllr Britcliffe from further participation in further events of the meeting and then to expel him from the chamber altogether. In fairness to the Mayor, proper procedure was followed and Cllr Britcliffe was given ample opportunity to mollify his own behaviour. It's just worth remembering that this is the same man who up until four weeks ago was in control of the entire borough and also had aspirations to represent us in Westminster as our local MP.

The only way to eradicate the possibility of having Cllr Britcliffe as Leader of the Council again in future is to vote any which way but blue and I say that with genuine regret because there are still one or two decent Tory councillors in Hyndburn.

I've had a meeting with one of them, Cllr Walmsley, this morning.

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would not another way be fer the tory Councillors to decide they didn't want a liability as leader ken?:confused: i have no idea,just asking.

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It's not a question of being experienced or inexperienced. It is common courtesy.

If a Labour councillor had behaved in the way we are told Councillor Britcliffe behaved at the Council meeting, he would have been beside himself with outrage and condemnation.

It sounds as though he went beyond the acceptable boundaries, even of Punch and Judy politics, and when he reflects on what he did, he may well choose to apologise to all concerned.

But knowing Peter, don't hold your breath!

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All this just goes to show what an uncouth man he is, and an egotistical, arrogant one too.

It is time someone did something to curtail his activities, and prevented further outbursts from the man.

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Well whats stopping you, you won the big hammer contest between Cashman & me.:D:D

Retlaw

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Oh dear.

Though it seems quite apt that so much time was spent on the toilet issue.

:pain30:

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Think I may just second you on that gynn;)

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That's the first I knew about it.
I would love to deal with him........I don't think I would need the hammer.

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The Conservative councillors , after the Council elections , unanimously elected Peter Britcliffe to continue as their leader . I am puzzled as to why they did this . Surely they must be aware of how he is regarded by most of the people of Hyndburn . :confused:

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No I think thats most of the people on Accy Web JCB:D

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I like him.

He makes me laugh.

;)

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The "Replay" on Twitter says it all really, he is an arrogant, rude and self opinionated prat. I haven't yet forgiven him for the extra stress he caused to my Uncle Ian when he was Labour leader and Mayor and schoolboy behaviour like this isn't doing him any favours. Evil, vitriolic little weeble!

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Obviouisly gone.

But still not forgotten.

Like thrush.

:D

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Ya me an all:rolleyes:

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I suppose you could call him laughable....at a pinch. He doesn't make me laugh.

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Bet you've never met him:D

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You said you'd fight us for the big hammer, so on recommendations from a secret source, ;);) we backed away, and let you have the big hammer.
Retlaw.

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John, I have seen him, but not met him......I am sure that so many people who have met him and had dealings with him cannot all be wrong.

I do not want to meet a man with such obvious disregard for the feelings of others.

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Retlaw, would just like to know what the secret source said, to make you give up your claim so easily :)

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Secrets are secrets, never to be revealed.:D

Retlaw.

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I thought you might say that :)

Though your source may not be as reliable as you think.
Me........I'm as soft as your pocket!

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was me question too difficult Ken?:D

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Sorry Cashy, thought it was rhetorical!

There are at least two candidates for Conservative leader that I would approve of and I suspect the rest of the Labour group would too but I fear it's unlikely to happen anytime soon. Speaking personally, if my group leader conducted himself in the same manner as Cllr Britcliffe I would have either gone independent or abandoned politics altogether.

Fortunately, Miles Parkinson is about as far from that as you're likely to get.

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The Lancashire Telegraph have run a short story on it:

Ex-Hyndburn leader ?thrown out? of council meeting (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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it may have been,if i knew what it meant.:hehetable

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And isn't that a refreshing change?

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Cashy...I'm sure you do know really....but if you don't.....Rhetorical is a figure of speech posed in the form of a question...but with no expectation of an answer.(I hope I have got that right)

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Fortunately, I have never known anything different in the Labour group but I have seen enough in the chamber since before being elected to be extremely grateful that we now have a Leader of the Council who speaks in a very measured way and doesn't go for the sensational angle in order to get his point across.

Local politics really doesn't have room for the pantomime performances of the past.

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Whilst the Daily Mail ran a long story, featuring Hyndburn's councillors.

Legal council: Accrington town hall, where local politicians can't stop suing each other | Mail Online

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Right who's actually payed fer this Legal action? us or them?:(

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Perhaps that could be the first written question at the next Council meeting.

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the answer could be interesting, oer to you Ken.;)

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Not quite ... but it works;) Kinda like the Newtonian universer.:D

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Well this thread is now 86 posts long I'm waiting for a thread of similar length not about the antics (which have been documented on here for years) of the previous leader, but just what is being done to improve things now there is new management at HBC, as I've said before talking is cheap in opposition.

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I can answer that one for you, it's the councillors who pay, there is no cost to the taxpayer.

Libel cases are tiresome, I can't say it's something I'd file against someone unless it was pretty serious.

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John, we're five weeks into the new administration. How much of a difference do you think it's possible to make in that time? Your own experience should tell you that it takes longer than that simply to ask for a written report and have a meeting to decide on the outcome.

Several things are being looked at and the framework was in place before we even took control so that we could hit the ground running but there was never any pretence that Hyndburn would become a gleaming vista overnight.

On a very superficial level, council meetings have been cleaned up so that they are less abrasive and for the first time in my tenure that I can remember we were finished before 10.00pm last Thursday. This didn't stop Cllr Britcliffe from commenting just after 9.30pm on the lateness of the hour when Graham Jones was speaking.

Enforcement of unsightly properties is being scaled up, allowances have been slashed to the tune of £23,000 already (and that figure will rise since meal claims now require a receipt) and trips to conferences that incur a cost to the council have been suspended indefinitely. On a personal level, in Rishton we have now confirmed the demolition of a row of unsightly derelicts which have dragged an area down for 10 years and the council will be recouping that money from the owners. The council is not there to hand out money simply when people come a-knocking and all that has been abolished as well.

Other 'good news' will be reported to the public when something concrete has been put in place, not some hypothetical votewinner which may never happen or figure which has been plucked out of the air in order to sound good.

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Just surprising how propaganda was published daily for 18 months prior to May;)

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You mean Kenweb?

As you have very accurately pointed out, it is easy to criticise when you're in opposition and by thunder did I find it easy. What I'm finding far more enjoyable and productive is being in control and the energies I expended in picking holes in policies can now be channelled into trying to actually make them work.

I've been given a fantastic job and the work programme that I have drawn up will be discussed at Overview & Scrutiny tomorrow morning. If anyone is interested in details of what is being worked on then I will direct you to the minutes as they are published.

You recently said that life is more fun in opposition but at present I must respectfully disagree.

:)

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Wait while you've been there 3 years and things start going tits up in true labour style mate:Dand it will;)

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What's true Labour?

Hasn't it been ditched, similar to the hug-a-hoodie Tory Lites dropping any links to old style conservatism, in order to appeal to Middle England?

After all someone was asked to stand as a Labour candidate against Cllr. Britcliffe who thought the world's first N.H.S. was created and founded by the Liberal party.

Hardly red flag waving Marxism.

:rolleyes:

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You're forgetting that when you get elected as a Councillor your brain is removed and replaced with a political badge to eradicate any autonomous thought. You can't have elected members responding to change or making decisions based on common sense, it has to be the party line as we all know.

No deviations, that way history repeats itself and zealots get to make generalising statements.

I'm so glad I'm no longer my own man. I'd have to be accountable for my own actions.

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True Labour just a figure of speech, in reality I meant that those in office purporting to be labour always cock things up, sooner rather than later, that things can only get better never did ring true and it won't in Hyndburn either. I've already heard on the none political grapevine that Scaitcliffe already looks like a hen coop after a foxy woxy has been a calling, I'll let you work that one out for yourself G.;)

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Yeah, you're just so boring, now that you no longer speak your mind on here, and just trot out the same old party line.

Yada, yada, yada.

I do so wish you were able to post what you actually want to.

:D

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'The grapevine', what a load of old twaddle. Do yourself a favour, call a spade a spade. If you mean that there has been a cull of staff then just ask your little grape to do a bit of research further along the vine. There's been a cull of wasteful spending, that's all.

Just ask your little grape how it was expected that £2m could be promised to the residents of Woodnook and the same £2m could also be intended for Township Regeneration proposals?

You're an intelligent man, wake up and take off the Tory blinkers. I'm a Labour Councillor and I'm not blind to Labour's faults in the past, it doesn't mean we all have to rigidly adhere to them in the future.

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I've posted before, the last time H.B.C. was Labour run I didn't live here. Although I visited often, and maintained close ties and an interest in the place I grew up.

The Labour party of today is nothing like the party of old. Just as the Conservative party isn't.

From my experience of living in places run by variously controlled councils, I've not found any particular party better than any other.

Liverpool - Labour, atrocious.
Lambeth - Labour, appalling.
Wandsworth - Conservative, marvellous.
Glasgow - Labour, fantastic.

Just because something was bad in the past doesn't necessarily mean history will repeat itself.

Especially because there's been such a massive political shift in various parties from what they once were.

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I know, all I've published since the election is Labour, Labour, Labour.

What am I, a man or a mouth?

I miss the old days.

Having discussions with Cabinet members about how to improve things is so depressingly productive.

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Perhaps the looking like 'the hen coop, after the fox has been in', refers to the wrappings off the sandwiches councillors bring in.

Now that the butties are no longer delivered daily, on silver platters from Hurn's.

:rolleyes: