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not suspicious it says.........kiss my arse.:eek:

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as i say this has more twists a turns than stanley mathews. its getting more like watergate by the day and all you doubters keep your heads in the sand;)

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Tis you has yer head in the sand cmon, yer too daft to see,all the sodding lot of em are as bent as a 9 bob note.:rolleyes:

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now somebodies hacked into the sun website www.thesun.co.uk its all the fun of the fare.

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even stranger on sky news the guys death is not seen as suspicious! on the BBC news its unexplained! very odd to me,i always thought there was a difference?

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The News Internationals websites have been hacked by Lutzsec, the following sites are all down.

www.thesun.co.uk
www.thetimes.co.uk
www.newsinternational.co.uk
www.thesundaytimes.co.uk

Here is a link for you Guardian readers http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...hacked-lulzsec

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More chance of reading the truth reading Pravda than the commie pinko Guardian . ;)

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Maybe but the sites were hacked

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I really don't care, let them drag as many of the rich, famous, politicians, police or whoever was involved screaming & kicking into the light for public denigration. The furore will be great the public & opposition will be baying for blood, but what will it really bring us ???

The weasels will twist & turn, lie & cheat or plead ignorance regardless of who they are, some will come out of it worse than others, but just exactly how is it going to make our lives better ? It isn't, so like I say, I really don't care one way or the other, have the witch hunt then lets try & get UK back to some level of decency. :mad:

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Here.. calm scouse german dave the german scouse bloke that is better known as the german scouser called dave.:)..talk about weasels???..ha

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To be honest it's all bollocks.. this country is suffering the worst economic crisis since the 30's.. and I mean real suffering ..all the talk about past governments makes no difference.. we now have a terrible government that has jinked itself in and most people know it..this mob will mess up this country even more than Thatcher ever dreamed of.

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All this started long before the current government were elected.
Anyway, thought you were a neutral.

lol sun website got hacked - awww what a shame
 

apparently the sun news papers website got hacked and the hackers posted a story saying murdoch was dead.They also posted what they claimed to be information hacked from their servers.

bet it isnt so nice when the shoes on the other foot :D

oh hang on hackings a crime , bad bad boys :D

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Banking scandal, MPs expenses scandal, media phone hacking, police corruption,- I can hardly wait for the exposure of masonic paedo rings and elite satanic rituals... bring it on.

Whistleblowers are the real heroes of our age.

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Because its the Sun its okay then, real bent logic in that one accyman:confused:

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Well its obvious it hasn't come from his own very small brain cell Margaret

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Not ok but will be interesting to see how quick the police act this time around when its the other way around.Somehow i cant seem to muster up any sympathy for the sun news paper as i did for the innocent members of public who were hacked ;)

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Being from Liverpool, one of the token scousers here, I have no time for the Sun. Hope they go out of business.

I cannot help but wonder why Ed Milliband and for that matter almost every MP is jumping on the band wagon, is it to hide something, or is it to get their own back after all the MP expenses, which were more serious.
Having a press free from political interference is one of the few things we haveleft in the UK, long may it remain.

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Each incident should be treated on merit, not on who the offence is committed against, that's what the law is all about, no fear no favour

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The unsavoury revelations just go on and on. Isn't there anyone in authority worthy of respect any more? The media, the metropolitan police and political leaders - both past and present, reflect just what a shoddy society we have become. Maybe it won't be such a bad thing if the European Union Jackboot decides to crush us underfoot once and for all!

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in an ideal world yes but unfortunately in this country the more money you have the more justice you get hence the super injunctions for the rich and famous and wealthy people such as footballers keeping their driving license after drink driving or excessive speeding.

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today was what i expected deny deny apart from the geezer who tried phantom flan fling at rupert murdoch.that was bizarre how he got to him was it set up,who is he :confused: tomorrow should hopefully more entertaining in parliament;)

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He is Jonnie Marbles
'Jonnie Marbles': the comedian and activist who attacked Rupert Murdoch | Media | The Guardian

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Was I the only person screaming at Rebekah Brooks:

"You sound perfectly reasonable, and I'll happily believe your protests of innocence. But for God's sake, you are an intelligent woman in a responsible job. What the f*ck is that hair style all about?"

You look like a sad and ageing Crystal Tips deserted by Alastair.

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Listening to CBC radio tonite. Rupert M. was the subject of discussion. If it turns out that he knew of the alleged bribing of police officers, he could, as an American citizen, be prosecuted in the US. He has massive holdings in the US, as many of you are no doubt aware, from the Fox Network to the Wall Street Journal. Many US politicians, Republicans and Democrats, are probably quaking in their boots (like Cameron is, or should be), and hoping the crisis stays on your side of the pond. It seems he has already retained the services of a law firm which specializes in getting scumbags like him out of the kind of trouble he is likely to be in. And, if there is criminality involved, neither the jerkoff nor any of his staff will be able to hide behind the First Ammendment. I'm starting to enjoy this:D

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I wonder if I'm the only one who's fed up with the whole sorry issue, there is nothing else seems to be news worthy than these plonkers hogging the headlines every day, I've started my general election mode, ie anything but news programs first thing in a morning, Vintage TV was very good this morning

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No you're not , Jaysay . I'm sick to the teeth of it .

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I aint am enjoying seeing em squirm, n hoping those who should pay the price.

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Ya cashy but there's only so much you can take, BBC breakfast this morning, every ten minutes it was now we will go back to our top story, that's when I sad oh not you are not and switched the bloody thing off:mad:

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Who should pay the price though?
When you have one company owned by another owned by another how far up do you go to when pointing the finger.

I dont think it is reasonable to expect Rupert Murdoch to know everything going on at the News of the World which as he stated is 1% of News Corp.

NOTW is part of News Group Newspapers owned by News International owned by News Corp.

If the blame lies at the top and people think Rupert Murdoch should be questioned then why was the PM not being questioned? The Chief Commissioner of the Met was and stood down and he must work for the Government so the PM should be in the frame.

Which PM I suppose on what incident we are talking about. The failure of the Police to sort this out years ago I suppose. What about the very close links between Rupert Murdoch and Gordon Brown, or Rebekah Brooks and David Cameron

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Don't worry about it too much, Jaysay. I walked past NI HQ this morning about 7.30 and there were probably one-third the number of photographers there that there have been for the last fortnight and only one TV Sat Van....the story is dying. Unless summat really spectacular blows up - like some good hard evidence, with names and signatures - then nowt's going to happen for a while. The kids in Parliament are about to break up for the summer hols and august is always a quiet month so you can sit back and watch your black and white telly in peace.

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Black and white telly, if it was I wouldn't mind :)

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How to upset Piers Morgan, this is Piers upset about being accused of phone hacking by MP Louise Mensch yesterday.

This is very funny Best Fireworks Since the 4th of July: Video of Piers Morgan's Explosive Confrontation With the Member of Parliament Who Accused Him of Phone Hacking When He Was the Editor of a U.K. Tabloid : TVBizwire : TVWeek - Television Industry news, TV ratings,

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Oh, I forgot,

Did any of you lot catch the obvious question - the one that was not asked, but should have been asked - immeadiatly after the question(s) on Murdoch going into the backdoor of No 10?

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Editor of a UK Tabloid:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:wonder which one that was;)

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Pointless the occupant was away;)

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it dont matter,Who,What,or When, as far as i'm concerned, the whole sorry mess should be investigated,sorted, n whomever pay the price, dependent on the part they played in it.i doubt very much if that will be the case, but its what should happen, NOT just the usual sacrificial lambs.,

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Err.....no.

Come on, you lot aren't trying.

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I watched most of yesterdays charade, and was surprised by how inarticulate were the questioners and the questioned.

With all the 'umming and arring' and incomplete sentances, I am surprised that any info was gleaned at all.

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I don't accept that James Murdoch was inarticulate. Certainly, the pair of them were well rehearsed and prepared. The broad question surrounding Murdoch Snr is to what extent is he really going ga-ga or is he doing an Ernie Saunders?

Anyway, I thought the other committee hearing was just as interesting. Did anyone notice that young blondie Tory MP? I thought she was quite a stunna but probably wasting her time in the house...she looked more like Page 3 material to me.

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MP Louise Mensch is the one who upset Piers Morgan and is in the video I linked to a few posts up. I think she is great for upsetting him :D

I think Rupert Murdoch is about as gaga as you are T.

I recorded the whole lot but fell asleep watching Rebekah Brooks so will have to watch it later

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Although this is a thread wander, is no one concerned that this whole charade is just a distraction from far more significant worldwide events? The Greeks may be about to default, the Italians and Spanish might be dragged into it and the whole Eurozone might be about to explode, which would inevitably have some effects on us.

There's also the little matter of the world's largest economy days away from the possibility of defaulting. This time next week Murdoch and NI could be forgotten as we cope with the fallout from a worldwide economic meltdown. :eek:

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In a word....Yes.
It puts me in mind of Nero....fiddling while Rome burned.

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Only he didn't.:confused::D:D

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Just a turn of phrase(not meant in any historical sense) used to cite inappropriate action/lack of action while something very serious is happening, and concentrating on something of lesser consequence.......literary licence, I think it is called.

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I prefer the term 'diversionary propaganda'

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Therefore could both Margarets please explain to us:

a) How the UK government can sort out the US budget impasse?

b) How the UK government can sort out the PIIGS economic crisis?

If, as they claim, the British body politic is engaged is silly diversionary matters like the hacking scandal, then it is implicit that they can deal with the gathering economic storm. So please - tell us - what can be done?

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Margaret, do you mean the furore about the phone hacking, or my little aphorism?

I think the newspapers being full of this news is diversionary propaganda.
Yes, it is a scandal, but all the investigations in the world aren't going to get to the bottom of the muck pit....because too many PPPs are involved(police, press and politicians).

David Cameron is now saying that if Coulson can be proved to have known about the hacking, then he(David Cameron) will issue a profound apology.
What is the difference between an apology and a profound apology?
Neither of them changes anything one iota.

David Cameron employed Coulson because he knew all the tricks that the media get up to...and it should have been plain enough that if he knew about all these dirty tricks, then he had to have been involved in some of them. In itslef that should have set alarm bells ringing for DC...the fact that it didn't, proves his judgement to be critically flawed.

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Do you mean to tell me you don't know Tealeaf?

Well, there, you do surprise me.

And why is it implicit that they can deal with the gathering economic storm?
It could just be that they are playing for time....and diverting attention away from something which is far more serious than the current situation.

And just to put the record straight, initially I didn't say it was a diversionary tactic........I asked MargaretR if she meant my little quote about Nero fiddling while Rome burned,(though I know he didn't) was what she was referring to.....but after thinking about it, I decided it could be.....I would put nothing past these corrupt people who are supposed to be leading us.

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I am not suggesting solutions, and I doubt whether the government could offer any either.

That does not preclude the public from being advised of the likely outcome of the crash of the dollar and/or the euro.

Individuals with investments in either currency would be glad of any such advice.

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I do know - but I'm asking you. You are the ones you have raised this matter, not me. So - come on - stop wasting time - give us your answers, now.

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I am not an economist. If I had answers I wouldn't be surviving on a pension and living in a 'council cave'.

I do watch the economic predictions of Gerald Celente who forecasts 'The Greatest Depression due 2011'.

So for the layman, advice is on the lines of -
...if you have money to invest buy gold and silver
...have a stockpile of non perishable food.

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To be perfectly honest i reckon most people are aware the Euro/Euro Zone is on the verge of disaster, unless people are blind/dumb/or dont wish to know? also if it does theres sod all we can do about it,fact! so yeh can call this diversionary, which it may be, but i prefer watching these gits squirming.

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I am not wasting time....you choose to come on here. If you feel it is a waste of time, then you have a choice.


As for you knowing the solution......if that is true(which I doubt most sincerely) then you won't need me to tell you.
Another thing, if you do know the solution to the major debt crisis...why aren't you working for a financial institution like the IMF.
It is obvious your talents are wasted on here.

The current financial crisis is puzzling far greater brains than mine(or I suspect) yours.

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There is much more to this whole deal than phone hacking and insincere apologies. We are talking about the possible bribing of politicians .... I suppose you call it campaign contributions like we do:eek: .... in order to influence policy. And, of course, bribing law enforcement officers. No doubt, Murdoch and his crew would love to see this whole deal drift away as the tide of public opinion ebbs into apathy. If he can keep it up until the football season starts, he is home free;):D In the US, Murdoch has influenced (paid:rolleyes:) politicians to pass legislation which would favor the extension of his influence over the media. Fortunately ... and sometimes you have to admire the American legal system ... Federal courts have overturned the deals. I wouldn't worry about the PIGS; the krauts can bail everyone out ... that would constitute a partial payment for the mess the sonsabitches caused last century.

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Your easily pleased cashy, as a distraction Ian Botham 1981 ashes extravaganza is on Beeb2 at 9 tonight, now thats good telly not this guff they're screening at the moment

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We could always beg a loan from the Euro Lottery winners!!!

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It wouldn't go anywhere near filling the black hole that's developing in EU debt. As for Eric's confident prediction that the Germans will offer a bail out, I think they may be getting a little tired of subsidising their less prosperous EU comrades.

Hopefully it could be the beginning of the end of the EU as we know it. But then again, the phone hacking scandal could lead to a corruption-free police force, high moral standards in the tabloid press and politicians who have the good of the country rather than party point scoring at heart...but somehow I doubt it. :rolleyes:

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I doubt it too - democracy is synonymous with greed and corruption, but the alternatives are likely to be worse.

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I don't think I predicted that the boche would bail everyone out:confused: It was a thinly veiled anti-hun remark;), which came into my pumpkin as I was considering the irony of Germany's economic power: you lose two wars, the second one was fought to prove that the first was no fluke and didn't involove any stabbings in the back, caused the death of tens of millions of innocent folks, and end up a the economic powerhouse of Europe.:eek::rolleyes: But I will climb off my Shandean horse, and pour anther beer. I couldn't get bomber:mad:, but the Spitfire from Kent is a decent brew, if a little hoppy.

Not bad; I managed to get two wanders into one post:D:D:D

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Well, you were the one who said "the krauts can bail everyone out". I reckon the German taxpayer will think otherwise, which could set off an economic chain reaction that could reach our shores. Nowt we can do about it, but it could take us into previously uncharted territory. Could that be a good thing or a bad thing for us?

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I don't think that "can" means "will":confused: And if the "economic chain reaction" reaches your shores, that will be something that the Germans couldn't do;) And if the "uncharted territory" involves quitting the EU .... mmm:rolleyes: Norway seems to be doing ok.

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The point is, will there even be an EU as we know it, if the PIIGS default? :confused:

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From what I read, probably not. A slimmed down version, consisting of only the more stable and solvent (or, fairly solvent) countries, and one which is based on economic, not political ties, would seem to be not a bad idea. What there is now is, well, like a well-intentioned party which got out of hand when the rowdies showed up;)

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Sounds sensible enough to me. Unfortunately, the EU don't do "sensible". :rolleyes:

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Quite correct Wyn but they are experts in stupidity:rolleyes:

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no i would give that a miss 36% tax and higher inflation .but they do have massive reserves of oil and gas and is still nationalised eh i would change my mind if our oil and gas industry was nationalised.

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cmonstanley,

I know it's the end of term and you've probably just got back from the school disco (or proms, as they call it now) but should you really have had that last bottle of cider?

You need to get some coffee in you and sober up; come on here again tomorrow morning and please try and put on a post that makes sense to us all.

PS...I know you're trying your best.

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Don't hold your breath waiting for that one Tealeaf.

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36% taxation, I remember I made that point a few days ago on another thread started by the genius that is Cmonstanley.

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One of the MP's on the Commons select committee investigating the phone hacking, MP Tom Watson has now announced that he is going to write a book it. I think he should stand down as it is a conflict of interest. I wondered why he was being so vocal on TV, in the press and on twitter. Can't help wondering if he is trying to sensationalise the story a bit more for his book now. Other MP's are really trying to uncover what has gone on.

A Guardian reporter has also announced a book which is ok because he is not investigating the scandal for Parliament.

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I see there are questions being asked about the Mirror group hacks now;)

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Hugh Grant was a celebrity victim of phone hacking and he even wears a wire to record a conversation with a former News Of The World journalist who admitted to hacking people's phones.
That's right, the guy who got car head from an LA prostitute is now the moral compass of the nation.

Spare us!

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There's a big difference between Hugh Grant and Milly Dowler my friend

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I'm in the flat at the moment, with t'telly on the the background.

It's tuned to Channel 15, the film channel (freeview).

The piccy that's just started is 'Gallipoli', starring that anti-semetic, racist, drunken anal hole Gibson.

What I didn't realise until now is that the producer - the man who put the money up - for this piece of anti-British hatred propaganda is none other than Rupert Murdoch.

Why didn't we just sling the bastard in the tower when we had the chance?

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Take it Rupert ain't on your Christmas Card list Tealeaf;)

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Can hardly blame the Aussies being upset , if I remember correctly this (the Dardenelles campaign/fiasco) was one of Churchills ideas , think this was the reason he was sacked from the Admiralty/Cabinet ;)

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You can ship the criminal classes out of Britain, but some flotsam will always wash back ashore.

:rolleyes::D

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Thats a bit rough on Bee http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/c...s/000205B3.gif

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There was nowt wrong with the Dardanells idea; as a way of breaking the stalemate on the Western Front it was the best move until the tactical applications of coordinated tank/airpower/artillary of 1918. If Churchill has to be criticised over Turkey, then the criticism should lie in his decision to sieze the two Turkish warships lying in British ship yards which begat Turkey's entry into WW1.

Forget the whingeing antipodeans; if they, togeather with the Royal Navy, the old trawler captains, and some battalions of the British army had been prepared to advance against the enemy as much as some of their colleagues in France & Belgium had been in 1916/17, then the war would have been over far earlier, and the rest as they say, would be history - minus Hitler

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Oh..by the way...before any of you monitors start getting up shirty about thread wander, please remember that Rupert Murdoch inherited his money and power from his dad, who in turn had made his wealth from blatant lies about the British effort in the Dardanelles.

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Not legally there isn't. The same crime was committed in both cases and should have been sorted out by the police when it came out years ago.

I have heard a few opinions about there being a difference morally or not as well but its the legal issue that should be the focus in my opinion.

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Ya Neil your quite right but the mucky stuff didn't really hit the fan until the Mily Dowler issue came to light

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Funny how the police did not think it much of an issue until the public did.

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Which I think has been well documented since;)

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Just heard on Absolute 80's radio news that Rebekah Brooks and others have finally been charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice. No hacking charges yet though.

Here is a link to the BBC about it BBC News - Phone-hacking police charge Rebekah Brooks

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Whats betting she gets away with it:rolleyes:

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I'd say it's odds on.. seems the charges relate to evidence like files, e.mails and such going missing at NOTW hq just before the police turned up with a search warrant so no surprise there, but it's doubtful Brooks actualy did this hands on :)

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Mind you wether or not she's found guilty she can always go back to her old job singing in pubs :D

http://rokpool.com/files/artist/simply-red.jpg?0

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Haha I almost lost wee laughing when I just heard on the news that Rebekah Brooks has been cleared of all charges.

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well now, isn't that a surprise(NOT)?
(sets reminder on on computer to take anti-cynicism medication)

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She admitted on camera they paid Police for info. Why isn't she being prosecuted for this? Elite connections perhaps? Hmmm

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Its all down to who was porking her, they daren't find her guilty.:rolleyes: Whereas Coulson has been found guilty, not that much of a shock,Camerons already grovelling n meaning how sorry he is, that hes been found guilty. But the knobheads will interpret his apology different than me.:rolleyes:

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it definitely isn't what you know...but who you know. (that has influence in high places)

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It makes you wonder very seriously about the jsutice systemin the country. It seems like one rule for me an' thee, and another rule for those in high places.

I thought justice was blindfolded.....I think it is time somebody checked that blindfold for moth holes!

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The verdicts were returned by a jury Margaret.

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Maybe we all listened to her trial by newspaper and didn't see the actual trial by jury.

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Don't worry Andy , i'm sure your mate Dodgey Dave will pull a few strings to get you out early (hopefully not before a few 'shower incidents').
Camerons apologies are about as sincere as the apology over Hillsborough.
Anyone think Coullson will go quietly or will the dirt be coming out?

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I'm near certain quietly,cos will be on a promise when the dust settles.;)

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Yes......I know they were. It still doesn't give me any great confidence in the system.