News of the World Mobile Phone Hacking
 

Most people will already have seen this news (but no surprise it's only the 3rd item on SKY).. the hacking of phones scandal has been mostly about celebs and pretty trivial stuff, but this is a disgrace.. reports are that News of the World "investigaters" actually deleted some of the messages on the then missing girls phone which lead her parents to believe she may still have been alive..lets have no messing about here, this newspaper paid someone to gather information by any means on this case and they should be charged with perverting the course of justice!

link from the Guardian seeing as they reported this http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/ju...-news-of-world

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was disgusted when i heard the news, if proven these clowns should be jailed imho.:mad:

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As well as being a disgusting invasion of privacy, if as reported, this girl's messages were deleted, in order that space would be made available, so more new messages could be listened to, it could very well have interfered with the police investigation. Leading them to believe that the poor girl was still alive, and accessing her mobile, when in fact she'd already been killed.

Heads should roll...into prison.

Though it's doubtful if any editors, or Murdoch himself, will receive even a slap on the wrist.

Apparently even if there are prosecutions, this case can't be used as evidence as to why any planned take over bids can't go ahead.

This poor girl's family must feel as if their hurt is never going to end.

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isnt there something called interfering with police business ... or is it i watch ncis too much .... its disgusting what they've done ... and surely they should end up in a court ... and jury ....

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Seems the police have had this on file for at least five years ..that is after the Met publicly stated that all investigations into hacking had been completed and no further action needed to be taken :(

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nothing will happen to news international they are so powerfull now somebody will sacrifice themselves get a massive pay off and everthing will be swept under the carpet we dont live in a democracy anymore:(

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like we ever did?:rolleyes:

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going fom past reports on the "phone hacking" seems Murdoch has many high placed friends of all political colours protecting his interests , the whole thing stinks to high heaven , hopefully there are enough open and honest MPs around (a coalition of the honest) to demand a complete review of whats going on and request a review of foriegn ownership of the UK media , with no excuses about how their hands are tied because of EU or Free Trade rules/laws

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There have been mutterings along the lines that MP's should steer clear of taking on the media because of threatened "repercussions" from certian newspaper owners... meaning if you investigate us we will pull something out of the hat as regards your private life.. It all seems a bit to much of a coincidence when some MP stands alone.. then all of a sudden he/she is in the papers with some new scandal regarding thier private life ;)

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This whole incident is very wrong. It was the newspaper group that asked the police to re investigate from what I read

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Oh yes it is wrong.. the paper only asked when the hacking came out last week..whatever or whoever were involved in this should have been arrested about 24 hrs ago.. what does this say for our so called British justice when we namby pamby about?.. if any normal bloke or woman down the road had been hacking kids phones he/she would be banged up at this moment..different law for some folk.?

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After all this lets not forget the agony the parents of this girl must be going through..god bless.

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You cant arrest anyone until you know who did it. Lets hope they are dealt with to the full extent of the law. It will be some reporter or investigator that will be accused.

Anyone know what law will have been broken and what the punishment will be?

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Probably some hack will be the sacrificial lamb and the rest of 'em will carry on regardless.

The British public, however, could exact its own form of punishment by boycotting News International's newspapers. Sadly, people will splutter with indignation...then nip down the newsagents to buy their NoW, Times, Sun etc. :rolleyes:

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Yeah.. I'm not sure you read the whole lot Neil..
two ex-directory numbers, however, were "blagged" illegally from British Telecom's confidential records by one of Whittamore's associates, John Gunning, who works from a base in Wiltshire. One of the ex-directory numbers was attributed by Whittamore to Milly's family home.
Then, with the help of its own full-time private investigator, Glenn Mulcaire, the News of the World started illegally intercepting mobile phone messages from Milly Dowler's phone.
To be honest I don't know if any law was broken.. but at the very least there has to be a law on hacking and intercepting then deleting messages on the phone of a 13yr old ..if not then something is very wrong.

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This BBC News page has the latest on this story

BBC News - News International's Rebekah Brooks 'won't resign'

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Some how this story about hacking has taken a new twist, its one thing, although wrong, hacking the phone of a film star or footballer, but this was despicable, to be quite honest I've always wondered how low some journalist will stoop to gain a story "in the public interest" whatever that means ( have never quite worked out what that statement means because I don't give a toss about what these headline grabbers are up to) but this is lower than the low, hope the barsteward responsible gets what he or she deserves.

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I think this has gone beyond the usuall talk about who resigns from wherever.. like I said if anyone has hacked,listened or interfered with the phone of a 13 yr old unless they are the parents .. they should be in custody right now.. I find it incredible that these people have not been nicked.. I would think any present laws would lead to the arrest of anyone who did this.

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Sorry but I must make it plain... if a grown man who is not a member of the girls family has hacked and deleted messages on a 13yrs old phone he should be in police custody right now.. I don't think I'm wrong .

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I would guess it would be some telecommunications law which might be so outdated as to not cover voicemail.

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Oh yea and could be some bit of paper that slipped into the shredder.. these bods have interfered with a massive search and maybe disrupted that search.. well yet again I'll say if anyone hacks a 13yrs old phone it's a nasty crime.. and anyone involved should be taken in.

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I agree it is very nasty but they can only prosecute using the laws they have, no law for being 'very nasty' which would often be useful.

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Would agree, they can. However, there seems to be widespread public outrage about the situation. I hope this will be translated into piles of unsold NoW's in newsagents, shops and supermarkets this Sunday.

As a lifelong member of the Cynical Party, I wouldn't bet on it, though. :rolleyes:

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Editor of the NOTW at the time Milly's phone was hacked, Rebekah Brooks (née Wade.)

Close friend of the Blairs, and David Cameron.

Refused four times to go before the cross-party parliamentary enquiry, to answer questions about the phone hacking.

Pays to have friends in high places.

:rolleyes:

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The establishment looks after itself. The public, however, can hit them where it hurts by taking their custom elsewhere.

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The word on the street is that people are planning a Liverpool style boycot, which followed the Sun's Hillsborough reports, for anything to do with Murdoch's empire.

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...and of course there are Facebook groups, if people want to register their support for a boycott of Murdoch's News International group.


BOYCOTT THE NEWS OF THE WORLD OVER MILLY DOWLER HACKING | Facebook

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I sincerely hope it happens. I can't join in, because I don't buy any of his papers or have Sky. If there's any sort of protests anywhere near me, I'll be there! :mad:

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was always under the impression that "Obstruction Of The Law" was a criminal offense?:confused:

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If they can prove it was then yes I think it is.

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Good but its a knocking bet there will never be a trial, Murdoch pulls too many strings, what a piece of crap the man is.:(

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This story gets worse and worse. Now there is a suggestion that the phones of the parents of the two little girls murdered in Soham had their phones hacked.............

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It would appear to be far to easy to listen to someone else's voicemail. Time the carriers sorted this out if they have not already.

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This never used to happen in the days when to make a phone call you had to find a phone box that hadn't been vandalise.;)

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It's the sleaze of the World! Sick people posing as reporters! :confused:

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Anything said on a mobile phone is recordable.
Remember 'Squidgygate'
Squidgygate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Agreed.

Unless they're dressing up as arabs, and tricking that greedy cow Fergie into selling dates with Air-miles Andy.

That's quite helpful, to republicans at least.

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more excuses than Nuremberg , no-one wants to accept any responsibility for anything.

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True.

Though in this age of easy litigation, it is unbelievable that the NOTW editors didn't know the source of where the stories they printed came from.

Stories are supposedly checked by teams of lawyers. To save them money, in case they're sued.

The rot runs all the way from the reporters, to the editors, to Murdoch.

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Truly amazing to watch a News International lackey tell an interviewer with a completely straight face that Rebekkah Wade was heading an enquiry into this incident which occurred when the NoW's editor was...Rebekkah Wade.

If Cameron had any guts he would order a fullscale independent enquiry into the tactics of the NoW and the whole of the tabloid press and he'd instigate the replacement of the toothless Press Complaints Commission with a body that has real powers. Not holding my breath though. :rolleyes:

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these people n the like are Camerons Bed-Mates aint never gonna happen.:rolleyes: he just says what people wanna hear fer brownie points n omits to mention the crux of the matter.

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Will this lead to the Demise of 'News OF The World' ? Ford have announced they will no longer advertise in NOTW and several other companies are reviewing the matter.

Ford pulls News of the World advertising - Daily Finance UK

Pending this response we will be using alternative media within and outside News International Group instead of placing Ford advertising in the News of the World."

The brands that could also - potentially - drop its advertising with the paper are a roster of just about every blue-chip consumer brand you care to name: Easyjet, Halifax, BT, Nationwide, Virgin, Carpetright, Renault.



T-Mobile reviews News of the World advertising over Milly Dowler phone hacking claims - Telegraph

A T-Mobile spokesman told the Telegraph: "We’re currently reviewing our advertising position with News of the World, following the recent allegations, and await the outcome of the ongoing police investigation.”

It is also understood that Currys and PC World are reviewing their options.

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i would hope it does lead to the demise of it, have me doubts though, money talks.

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...all folk have to do to bring down the NoW is to stop buying it. Don't see why that's such a big sacrifice. Plenty of other rags around to line the cat's litter tray. :rolleyes:

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Milly Dowler, the Soham families....now you can add the bereaved families of the 7/7 terrorist attacks, Madelaine McCann's family.......all had their phones tapped by the News of the World. The list is getting longer and longer and sicker and sicker.

This is building into a scandal of epic proportions......

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aint shocked, but do yeh honestly think the "Real" culprits will be brought to book? more chance of the catholic church doing the right thing imho.:(

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You could well be right and knowing the statement a journalist is a journalist don't be too surprised if this little barrel of worms doesn't go further than News International, a lot of fleet streets finest (an old phraseology I know) are freelance and not just tied to one organisation, a fact that was pointed out on BBC Breakfast TV. this morning:rolleyes:

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Don't know if you are all aware but concern over hacking is just one of the reasons why there is a campaign to stop Rupert Murdoch buying out all BSkyB. It is urgent to support this and it just needs an email.
Avaaz - 48 hours to stop Murdoch's UK media takeover

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this episode is getting worse by the day, seems the police have been sat on this hacking info since 2006, n done next to nowt about it, how can the public have any faith in the investigation now? perhaps cameron should call n independent inquiry into them.:(

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Seems that the police have been doing naughties too, selling info to the press, you couldn't make it up:eek::mad:

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Seems like he's going to, one enquiry into the police and one into the NoW and journalistic ethics in general, after Milliband asked for it.

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not sure the Public would have any faith/trust in the results of any independant inqiury. even if it was headed by Christ himself , until the "establishment" Politicians (all parties/all levels) , Police and the Civil Service can show they are whiter than white and not "in it" for personal gain ... (think expenses fiddles, Police corruption, gold plated index linked pensions ) 1/2 the country are living on benefits of one sort or another (Murdoch's target audience Sun /NOTW readers, 1/4 of the country are employed by the Govt. in one way or another ... leaving 1/4 of the country having to pay for it all.

A good example of "honest and open" Govt. in the UK is the House of Lords ... somewhere where reprobates and dead-beats from the House of Commons end up drawing more money under a new assumed name/idenity , (Baron /Baroness this and that )

rant over ;) :eek: :D

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Make you realise what a bunch of bent, dirty , no morals scum bags the press are and the same goes for the police as jaysay said you couldnt make it up.At a time when this poor family needed help and support these dirtbags where trying to get any dirty little secrets because "its in the public interest" what a load of old pony, they should be strung up.

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I have never quite grasped that "in the public interest malarkey" whenever I hear that I usually end up yelling not it bloody isn't. Peoples private phone calls should be just that private, I can understand phone tapping by the anti terrorist squad, but after that its a no no as far as I'm concerned

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We used to have the NOTW ung on a nail behind the toilet door(well squares of it anyway).......saved money on lavvy paper......now if you wiped your bum with the NOTW, you would have a dirtier bottom than when you started.

I sincerely hope all their advertisers jump ship...see how they can run the rag without advertisement finance.

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Sure your bog had this.
BBC ON THIS DAY | 11 | 1971: Britain's oldest tabloid closes.

May be wrong.:D:D

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No Beni, by then Ma had a flush toilet and newspaper was banned for the purpose of wiping your bum...we got Izal or Bronco instead.
We only used newspaper as lavvy paper while we had a long drop!

I do rememjber the demise of the Daily Sketch.

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they reap what they sow lets hope the british public wake up before this passes.no way they can buy sky news now unless they let them buy it and ofcom take it back of them for being unfit company..pigs will fly first

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They don't need advertisers

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This sundays NOTW will be the last one this week

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Which is why they don't need advertisers.

All the NOTW revenue will go to good causes from the last edition. No commercial adverts, any advertising space will be donated to causes and charities

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Murdoch to close News of The World - FT.com

How are all the slappers supposed to make a living now, selling their kiss-and-tell stories?

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'News International has refused to comment on rumours that The Sun could now become a seven-day-a-week operation.'

As one Murdoch door closes, another one opens.

:rolleyes:

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The Chief Executive of News International, Rebekah Brooks, was in tears as she announced to staff that the News of the World is to close.

And Sky have just reported there is a "Lynch Mob" mentality amongst NOTW staff towards Brooks.

And can you blame them? Many hard working, decent and honest people are going to lose their job in a cynical move to save her nasty little head.

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cynical sod that I am , can't help but wonder how much the closure of the NOTW has more to do with loss of revenue/profit than public outrage, we all know print readership is down and papers are losing money, The online editions of the Sun/NOTW/the Times , all Murdoch papers have been pay per view sites for the last few months , can't imagine many people paying good money to read stuff which you can get free from other sites. Being the 'businessman' he is I wouldn't put past Murdoch to use this "public lynching" as an excuse to get out of the money losing print media ;) :eek:

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Do we have any numbers, of how many 'decent and honest' News of the World workers there are?

Can't speak historically, but certainly for the last thirty years this nasty little rag has profited from other peoples' misery, sleaze, and filth.

I'm glad it's going.

Though we all know Murdoch will bring it back, under another name, employing the same 'decent and honest people'.

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one look at her and you see she is an evil cow ;) :eek:

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Certainly more copies will now be sold, than would have been before the closure was announced.

To any souvenier hunters, don't bother.

Financially the last edition will be worthless.

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She's a ginger, from Stockport.

Give her a break.

Made me laugh that she claimed she was educated at the Sorbonne, which turned out to be a lie.

It could have been that talent that gor her the job with Murdoch.

:rolleyes:

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The Sun on Sunday was apparently registered on July 5th...so you are right G.......as one paper folds another takes its place.

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I was thinking of the back room staff, the drivers, printers, delivery men etc rather than the journalists. I shed no tears for the journalists.

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Ya they've no consideration at all;)

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Damage limitation.

Murdoch's banking on everyone being stupid.

Then again, who owns the best selling papers in the UK?

:rolleyes:

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Do you mind, cows have feelings too:rolleyes:

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You've got to feel sorry for them, and their pimp daddy, Max Clifford.

I wonder if the Sun on Sunday will be featuring any kiss-and-tell 'stories'?

:rolleyes:

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They won't work for the NOTW exclusively gynn

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....and they'll all soon be printing, delivering, and selling adverts in Murdoch's 'brand new' Sunday newspaper, the Sun on Sunday.

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And it will probably be on the lines of the News of the World, with the emphasis on football players, large chested women who don't mind showing the world their assets, and sleaze.
There always seems to be a ready market for such things.(now where did I put those anti cynicism pills?)

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Thank god I'm in Church tonight, not Wapping; my guess is the Cape (aka Thomas More, a hostelry of which some of you are familiar), located under the News International offices, is now in the process of getting wrecked.

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Don't think that News international will get rid of this stench until the lovely Rebecca is hung out to dry, while she's still an integral part of this company this whole sorry issue will not go away any time soon

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The term is "pursue interests elsewhere" not "hung out to dry" :rolleyes:

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She couldn't earn a living selling hair straighteners.

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Perhaps Bekah's been tapping old man Murdoch's phone.

There's got to be some reason he's hanging on to her.

Profit usually comes before loyalty in his book.

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Perhaps she knows his guilty secrets......you know what they say, better to have the enemy in the tent peeing out...the out of the tent peeing in :D

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Ya I think Gordon found that out when Tony ran for the Chiltern's:D

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I hope that's the case.

I sincerely hope no one loses their jobs, because of these crooks.

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You know as well as I do G. this is just cosmetic, when the NOTW closes on Sunday there will be another publication to take its place probably the Sun going 7 days a week. The NOTW is now a tainted brand and news international think by shutting it down then allowing another publication to rise Phoenix style from the ashes will placate the GP, unfortunately the good old general public aren't that easily fooled

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Only a little over a week ago, Bekah announced that there would be 'inevitable job losses' at News International.

She also confirmed for the first time that "a seven-day operation will be a reality."

All going to plan so far then.

:rolleyes:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/186974.html

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I have moved some off topic posts about Bombadier and the Siemens railway stuff to a new thread here

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ost-58494.html

Some posts have been removed to avoid confusion

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heres the front page of tomorrows news of the world ...

BBC News - Phone-hacking probe: Final NoW says 'Thank you & goodbye'

'Thank you and goodbye'

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Yeah, goodbye...and good riddance.

http://www.myemoticons.com/images/co...n/c-d/ciao.gif

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hear,hear, n sooner Rebecka follows the better.

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:D..I can hear the machines in Wapping shredding evidence from over the water!
Good riddance to the NotW.. but the thought of the Sun on Sunday is very scary :eek:

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Fourteen titties per week!

Sultry Sammi-Jo from Swindon can't wait to wop 'em out seven days a week.

:Banane20:

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Sod off yeh will give folk nightmares.:eek:

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the thing is murdoch bought the news of the world why didnt he sell it ?what is going to stop him buying up other newspapers and closing them down once he gets away with this.

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He's closed the most profitable newspaper, with the highest circulation figures in the world, because he knew it could never recover from the disgust the nation feels over this scandal.

He'll also know what further outrages are yet to be revealed.

Whatever he is, he's a successful businessman.

He's cut his losses.

Thrown in his cards.

Sacrificed his hand.

He's now ready for the next game.

Let's hope we are too.

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Thing is when this hacking thing started, it was so called "Stars" who personally i don't give a stuff about, there was no big hue n cry like now, ok its more serious, "But" the offense is still the same, we should all remember when things like this occur, Whats Next? cos its the "Thin end of the wedge" imho.

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True.

It's only thanks to the relentless badgering by the journalists at the Guardian that this story hasn't died, and been brushed under the carpet.

I think politicans of all parties should heed the warning about not supping with the Devil.

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Whoever it was that made up the list of "celebs" to be hacked they missed out Katie,Pete and Kerry...I bet that lot have been on the phone to thier agents demanding to have thier phones hacked!:D