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torquemada 08-07-2011 14:38

Britcliffe
 
It seems at last that Peter Britcliffe may realise that he is no longer in control of the town and the council chamber, and he will now have to abide by the rules of a democrativ council chamber, that he has so blatantly abused in the past. Perhaps its also about time that the councillors who do not like him and there are one or two, now stood up and decided that it is a change that the Tories have needed for a long time. Even Conservative Central Office were not keen on him and only one or two in his party were in enamoured of him. Perhaps it really is time that the rest of the party spoke out agains his dictatorial attitude.

lancsdave 08-07-2011 14:48

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917380)
It seems at last that Peter Britcliffe may realise that he is no longer in control of the town and the council chamber, and he will now have to abide by the rules of a democrativ council chamber, that he has so blatantly abused in the past. Perhaps its also about time that the councillors who do not like him and there are one or two, now stood up and decided that it is a change that the Tories have needed for a long time. Even Conservative Central Office were not keen on him and only one or two in his party were in enamoured of him. Perhaps it really is time that the rest of the party spoke out agains his dictatorial attitude.

Didn't even realise he was unpopular :rolleyes:

garinda 08-07-2011 14:57

Re: Britcliffe
 
He should wear a hoodie.

Then it'll be hugs all round.

cashman 08-07-2011 15:00

Re: Britcliffe
 
what on earth makes yeh think that?:eek:

torquemada 08-07-2011 15:14

Re: Britcliffe
 
speak to most people in town and you will realize how unpopular he is. If his fellow councillors truly spoke their minds then the rate payers of Hyndburn would be enlightened.

cashman 08-07-2011 15:18

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917393)
speak to most people in town and you will realize how unpopular he is. If his fellow councillors truly spoke their minds then the rate payers of Hyndburn would be enlightened.

i know how unpopular he his especially from the likes of me:rolleyes: but yer assuming he his sensible/reasonable enough fer the penny to drop, which is the question i put to you.;)

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2011 16:55

Re: Britcliffe
 
Yes you are right Cashy...the man thinks the sun rises and sets in his own a-hole.......and he thinks everyone should be grateful that he lets us see it...the sun that is...not his a-hole:D

JCB 08-07-2011 17:31

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917393)
If his fellow councillors truly spoke their minds then the rate payers of Hyndburn would be enlightened.

After the local elections the Conservative councillors unanimously re-elected Peter Britcliffe as their leader . :confused::confused::confused:

JCB 08-07-2011 17:33

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917393)
If his fellow councillors truly spoke their minds then the rate payers of Hyndburn would be enlightened.

I don't pay rates any more . ;)

jaysay 08-07-2011 17:37

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917393)
speak to most people in town and you will realize how unpopular he is. If his fellow councillors truly spoke their minds then the rate payers of Hyndburn would be enlightened.

if you have such strong feelings about this man then why not face up to the man himself instead of hiding behind a screenname on here

garinda 08-07-2011 17:39

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917393)
speak to most people in town and you will realize how unpopular he is. If his fellow councillors truly spoke their minds then the rate payers of Hyndburn would be enlightened.

Other than in his ward, he yields very little power at present.

If you're not careful you'll be doing an Elvis on him.

Making him more famous in death, than he was in life.

wallop79 08-07-2011 22:08

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 917387)
He should wear a hoodie.

Then it'll be hugs all round.

Maybe Dave can print him one 'Britcliffe Rules' or other suggestions welcome! :p :D

lancsdave 08-07-2011 22:14

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 917505)
Maybe Dave can print him one 'Britcliffe Rules' or other suggestions welcome! :p :D

Already out there :D


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garinda 08-07-2011 22:16

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 917505)
Maybe Dave can print him one 'Britcliffe Rules' or other suggestions welcome! :p :D

Talk about rubbing salt in the wounds!

That'd be a very cruel present.

Having the wrong tense emblazoned on it.

:eek::rolleyes::D


jaysay 09-07-2011 08:52

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 917505)
Maybe Dave can print him one 'Britcliffe Rules' or other suggestions welcome! :p :D

I hate the Rishton Buddha:D:D:D

DaveinGermany 09-07-2011 09:42

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 917590)
I hate the Rishton Buddha:D:D:D

No good Jay, it'd infer God like status. ;)

walkinman221 09-07-2011 10:14

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 917624)
No good Jay, it'd infer God like status. ;)

From your comment dig am i to conclude you do not view pb in a god like way, after all he was once the all powerful leader of Accrington council, i myself was of the opinion he was our very own Julius Ceaser an emperor without equal, among mere mortal men of course.And then again without equal amongst the upper echelons of the gods.His tragic and may i say unjust deposition from his position of all seeing power was a terrible day for the people of Accrington ,the sad passing of what i consider to be a political giant whilst amongst other political leprechauns he stood head and shoulders above them all a sad sad episode in political terms.:rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D:D

jaysay 09-07-2011 10:25

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 917628)
From your comment dig am i to conclude you do not view pb in a god like way, after all he was once the all powerful leader of Accrington council, i myself was of the opinion he was our very own Julius Caesar an emperor without equal, among mere mortal men of course.And then again without equal amongst the upper echelons of the gods.His tragic and may i say unjust deposition from his position of all seeing power was a terrible day for the people of Accrington ,the sad passing of what i consider to be a political giant whilst amongst other political leprechauns he stood head and shoulders above them all a sad sad episode in political terms.:rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D:D

Well in those terms WM and if Caesar was PB then Brutus must definitely have been Red Ken from Rishton:D et tu brute:rolleyes:;):D

walkinman221 09-07-2011 10:32

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 917632)
Well in those terms WM and if Caesar was PB then Brutus must definitely have been Red Ken from Rishton:D et tu brute:rolleyes:;):D

Nice one john but surely a man with such political insight as Pb would have seen the knives coming.
As scipio africanus said "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 96% how I react to it.":D:D

DaveinGermany 09-07-2011 10:50

Re: Britcliffe
 
Ah, but if he was so Caesarian as you perceive surely that famous quote would've been sufficient forewarning of the heinous acts to follow ?

"Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me !" Julius Caesar (Kenneth Williams Carry on Cleo 1964) :rolleyes:

jaysay 09-07-2011 12:43

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 917638)
Nice one john but surely a man with such political insight as Pb would have seen the knives coming.
As scipio africanus said "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 96% how I react to it.":D:D

Well not really WM ya see, he's regularly had the knives removed from his back over the last 28 years, something I doubt will happen to others now taking up the mantel as they will be long gone before they tot up half that time;)

jaysay 09-07-2011 12:45

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 917642)
Ah, but if he was so Caesarian as you perceive surely that famous quote would've been sufficient forewarning of the heinous acts to follow ?

"Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me !" Julius Caesar (Kenneth Williams Carry on Cleo 1964) :rolleyes:

He was shouting that back in 83 never mind 2011:D

jaysay 09-07-2011 13:11

Re: Britcliffe
 
Silvio Berlusconi, 74, announces he's too old to run for office again | Mail Online
Now here's a guy who knows when its time to go, maybe he can then follow his favorite hobby of chasing the fair sex:D

hedman2003 09-07-2011 15:27

Re: Britcliffe
 
From the outset let me say I'm no fan of PB or the political party he stands for however as an elected Councillor he has democratically been elected repeatedly by the electorate particularly in Borough and now in County Council elections so what do the good people of Ossy see in PB that the rest of us are missing?

walkinman221 09-07-2011 17:05

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 917657)
Well not really WM ya see, he's regularly had the knives removed from his back over the last 28 years, something I doubt will happen to others now taking up the mantel as they will be long gone before they tot up half that time;)

Well its always hard work to remove the pigs from the trough once they get their noses in.;):D:D:D

jaysay 09-07-2011 17:29

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 917690)
Well its always hard work to remove the pigs from the trough once they get their noses in.;):D:D:D

Well labour have been trying for 28 years to remove Britcliffe from HBC and so far they haven't even come close

jaysay 09-07-2011 17:31

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hedman2003 (Post 917678)
From the outset let me say I'm no fan of PB or the political party he stands for however as an elected Councillor he has democratically been elected repeatedly by the electorate particularly in Borough and now in County Council elections so what do the good people of Ossy see in PB that the rest of us are missing?

The people of Ossy know just how much he as done for Ossy, I would think there is hardly a household in St Andrews Ward that Britcliffe hasn't helped over the years, its these things that people remember

DaveinGermany 09-07-2011 17:32

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 917695)
Well labour have been trying for 28 years to remove Britcliffe from HBC and so far they haven't even come close

Might need to rephrase that Jay, have you looked at the town council lately ? ;)

jaysay 09-07-2011 17:46

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 917697)
Might need to rephrase that Jay, have you looked at the town council lately ? ;)

He's still a councillor Dave and as I've said labour, over the years have tried every dirty trick in the book (ya them tricks they wouldn't dream of doing) and have I've said on election day he's never even broken sweat retaining his seat, one year they even lost two of there own councillors because they concentrated so much on St Andrews ward and he still won by 120 votes which is quite good in that ward

walkinman221 09-07-2011 18:38

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 917695)
Well labour have been trying for 28 years to remove Britcliffe from HBC and so far they haven't even come close

I was talking in general john not just his lordship:D

garinda 09-07-2011 18:46

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hedman2003 (Post 917678)
From the outset let me say I'm no fan of PB or the political party he stands for however as an elected Councillor he has democratically been elected repeatedly by the electorate particularly in Borough and now in County Council elections so what do the good people of Ossy see in PB that the rest of us are missing?

I live in his ward.

I think political banners aside, he's regarded by the folks that live here as a very good local councillor.

As one of his most vociferous critics, when it came to some council policies whilst he was the leader, I agree, he is an excellent councillor for St. Andrew's ward.

Away from politics, as a man, I also like him. He's witty, friendly, and amusing.

It's just a shame he didn't have me running his P.R.
Because that's certainly not the side most people see.

:D

walkinman221 09-07-2011 18:55

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 917718)
I live in his ward.

I think political banners aside, he's regarded by the folks that live here as a very good local councillor.

As one of his most vociferous critics, when it came to some council policies whilst he was the leader, I agree, he is an excellent councillor for St. Andrew's ward.

Away from politics, as a man, I also like him. He's witty, friendly, and amusing.

It's just a shame he didn't have me running his P.R.
Because that's certainly not the side most people see.

:D

I have to say being fair rindy, i agree with your post.:p

jaysay 10-07-2011 09:37

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 917716)
I was talking in general john not just his lordship:D

I did realise that WM as you didn't tug your forelock:D

torquemada 10-07-2011 15:19

Re: Britcliffe
 
John we know that you have been doing Britcliffes bidding for years but some day you will see the man for what he really is.

cashman 10-07-2011 15:24

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917872)
John we know that you have been doing Britcliffes bidding for years but some day you will see the man for what he really is.

who is this we? he aint been doin sod all fer P.B. fer years, so really yeh know nowt.:rolleyes:

garinda 10-07-2011 17:01

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917872)
John we know that you have been doing Britcliffes bidding for years but some day you will see the man for what he really is.

What's that?

Lord Mayor of Accrington?

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...yor-58002.html

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

As Cashman said, it might be wiser to acquaint yourself with the facts, before coming out with anymore silly inaccuracies.

;)

torquemada 10-07-2011 17:25

Re: Britcliffe
 
It's what has been going on behind the scenes that people don't know.

garinda 10-07-2011 17:42

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917902)
It's what has been going on behind the scenes that people don't know.

Been indulging in a bit of phone tapping, have you?

I'm more likely to believe Jaysay, when he posts he hasn't seen Cllr. Britcliffe for years, and has little, or no contact with him now.

You'll find facts go down better on here, than hearsay, and rumour.

Unless of course it isn't a rumour, and Accrington has been awarded city status, and will soon have a Lord Mayor.

:rolleyes:

wallop79 10-07-2011 17:43

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917902)
It's what has been going on behind the scenes that people don't know.

Pray tell us more, I haved lived in Accy all my life & have not seen anything apart from a town going to the dogs courtesy of P.B, he might have done good for a few people in his ward, same as other local councillors do, after all isnt that the point of being a councillor, but as far as running a council successfully & honestly - never, he should never be allowed to take charge ever again, also what a relief to look in the Accy Observer & not see his ugly mug on every other page anymore!:alright::alright:

cashman 10-07-2011 17:47

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917902)
It's what has been going on behind the scenes that people don't know.

i happen to know a damn site more than you, yer claims are just proving yer thick.:rolleyes: as many on here will be aware of that fact.:(

garinda 10-07-2011 17:51

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 917910)
Pray tell us more, I haved lived in Accy all my life & have not seen anything apart from a town going to the dogs courtesy of P.B, he might have done good for a few people in his ward, same as other local councillors do, after all isnt that the point of being a councillor, but as far as running a council successfully & honestly - never, he should never be allowed to take charge ever again, also what a relief to look in the Accy Observer & not see his ugly mug on every other page anymore!:alright::alright:

Though asking Louella Parsons to 'tell us more', may result in legal action being taken, if there's no evidence to back up the claims, and us all footing the bill.

Town hall bid to prevent councillors taking each other to court | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

;)

jaysay 11-07-2011 08:46

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917872)
John we know that you have been doing Britcliffes bidding for years but some day you will see the man for what he really is.

Well seeing you haven't the guts to tell us who you are I can only surmise your a member of the Labour Party, they've always been good at the anonymous stuff, "Who Me Gov not me gov" political coward

garinda 11-07-2011 09:26

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918033)
Well seeing you haven't the guts to tell us who you are I can only surmise your a member of the Labour Party, they've always been good at the anonymous stuff, "Who Me Gov not me gov" political coward


'Many true and faithful Christians, because of the testimony of enemies, rivals, slaves and other low people—and still less appropriate—without tests of any kind, have been locked up in secular prisons, tortured and condemned like relapsed heretics, deprived of their goods and properties, and given over to the secular arm to be executed, at great danger to their souls, giving a pernicious example and causing scandal to many.'
- Pope Sixtus IV

The Age of Torquemada, the Grand Inquisitor

jaysay 11-07-2011 09:34

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918038)
'Many true and faithful Christians, because of the testimony of enemies, rivals, slaves and other low people—and still less appropriate—without tests of any kind, have been locked up in secular prisons, tortured and condemned like relapsed heretics, deprived of their goods and properties, and given over to the secular arm to be executed, at great danger to their souls, giving a pernicious example and causing scandal to many.'
- Pope Sixtus IV

The Age of Torquemada, the Grand Inquisitor

Um

garinda 11-07-2011 09:44

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918040)
Um

'Um'?

Oh dear.

What are you trying to tell us?

As well as condemning, and branding you, with absolutely no evidence, has he also done what was done to many in the Spanish Inquisition...cut your tongue out?

:eek:

http://th460.photobucket.com/albums/...ley-tongue.gif

:D

jaysay 11-07-2011 10:06

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918041)
'Um'?

Oh dear.

What are you trying to tell us?

As well as condemning, and branding you, with absolutely no evidence, has he also done what was done to many in the Spanish Inquisition...cut your tongue out?

:eek:

http://th460.photobucket.com/albums/...ley-tongue.gif

:D

Well you know me G. not big on gossip:cool:, but I can quite understand where berks like the thread starter get there jollies, they start of by adding 2 and 2 and getting 2643.

In the days when I was a regular letter writer to the local press the Labour Party used to intimate that it was Britcliffe writing the letters and using my name, which was bollocks, I had a pact with PB I didn't interfere with his council work and he didn't interfere with my letter writing. Even when I joined Accy Web there were many people thought I was PB, in fact the day after Gayle lost to Peter in the 2006 council elections, there was a private message waiting when I logged on here from Gayle, saying something like congratulations on your win yesterday Peter, I replied saying she had contacted the wrong person, its JDF not PB.

But as you well know 5 years down the road, as I think cashy pointed out, I have little or no contact with PB, probably outlived my usefulness:rolleyes:in fact I haven't heard from anybody from the Tory party since May 5th and although I said I would display a poster prior to the election, none appeared.

The fact is that I put the friendships I have made here on Accy Web way above politics, politics was something I was involved in for most of my adult live, it has now taken a back seat for a few years now, but its still fun having a poke with a stick just for devilment:D

Margaret Pilkington 11-07-2011 10:18

Re: Britcliffe
 
When I was young(a lot of years ago) one of my younger brothers used a stick to poke a wasps nest...he did it for devilment.......and ended up covered in maddened wasps.....venting their anger on him.
It wasn't a pretty sight......he ended up sat in a tin bath full of cold vinegary water to relieve the pain of the stings. I think it taught him not to poke sticks into anything.
Sorry for the thread wander...it just brought back some old summer memories.

jaysay 11-07-2011 10:51

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 918049)
When I was young(a lot of years ago) one of my younger brothers used a stick to poke a wasps nest...he did it for devilment.......and ended up covered in maddened wasps.....venting their anger on him.
It wasn't a pretty sight......he ended up sat in a tin bath full of cold vinegary water to relieve the pain of the stings. I think it taught him not to poke sticks into anything.
Sorry for the thread wander...it just brought back some old summer memories.

it would appear that your brother hadn't learnt the knack of poking the nest Margaret, the idea is only to poke it so they say what the hells that, but when they look the prevaricator has disappeared before doing untold damage,which in accy webs case its called logging of:D:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 11-07-2011 12:54

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918051)
it would appear that your brother hadn't learnt the knack of poking the nest Margaret, the idea is only to poke it so they say what the hells that, but when they look the prevaricator has disappeared before doing untold damage,which in accy webs case its called logging of:D:D:D


I think he learned his lesson John......well, in relation to wasps anyway:)

JCB 11-07-2011 17:39

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918033)
Well seeing you haven't the guts to tell us who you are I can only surmise your a member of the Labour Party, they've always been good at the anonymous stuff, "Who Me Gov not me gov" political coward

John , torquemada is not a member of the Labour Party .

He has never lacked guts when writing letters to the Observer with his name and address printed .

I don't know who most contributors to Accy Web are . I probably know half a dozen . But I just accept their use of a pseudonym , a practice which is accepted and shouln't be interpreted as cowardice .

jaysay 11-07-2011 17:53

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 918114)
John , torquemada is not a member of the Labour Party .

He has never lacked guts when writing letters to the Observer with his name and address printed .

I don't know who most contributors to Accy Web are . I probably know half a dozen . But I just accept their use of a pseudonym , a practice which is accepted and shouln't be interpreted as cowardice .

If some body decides to slag me of calling me a lacky from behind a screen name he's nothing but a sniveling coward, end of story, no matter how many bloody letters he writes to the press, because I've always stated that the press should print unsigned letters anyway, and the fact is this is different, its instant reply, not waiting for a week to see if the editor allows rebuttal, so if he can't stand the heat keep out the blood kitchen

garinda 11-07-2011 18:06

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 918114)
John , torquemada is not a member of the Labour Party .

He has never lacked guts when writing letters to the Observer with his name and address printed .

I don't know who most contributors to Accy Web are . I probably know half a dozen . But I just accept their use of a pseudonym , a practice which is accepted and shouln't be interpreted as cowardice .

Of course, everyone here has the privilege of using a pseudonym, and the anonymity that offers.

It's then a great pity that a person using this cover decides to post someone's real name, which isn't known to all and sundry, and not their anonymous username. As well as posting unsubstantiated claims, which turn out to be untrue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada (Post 917872)
John we know that you have been doing Britcliffes bidding for years but some day you will see the man for what he really is.

If you are going to throw stones in glass houses, don't be suprised if someone else comes along, takes off your specs, and stamps on them.

;)

garinda 11-07-2011 18:13

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918120)
If some body decides to slag me of calling me a lacky from behind a screen name he's nothing but a sniveling coward, end of story, no matter how many bloody letters he writes to the press, because I've always stated that the press should print unsigned letters anyway, and the fact is this is different, its instant reply, not waiting for a week to see if the editor allows rebuttal, so if he can't stand the heat keep out the blood kitchen

If this great thinker, and writer of epistles to the local press, thinks Accrington has a Lord Mayor, perhaps they're one of the letters we regularly see, and have a wry chuckle, whilst thinking...NUTTER!

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...yor-58002.html

:rolleyes:

jaysay 11-07-2011 18:23

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918129)
If this great thinker, and writer of epistles to the local press, thinks Accrington has a Lord Mayor, perhaps they're one of the letters we regularly see, and have a wry chuckle, whilst thinking...NUTTER!

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...yor-58002.html

:rolleyes:

In this case would it be a Lady Mayor:confused:

garinda 11-07-2011 18:31

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918130)
In this case would it be a Lady Mayor:confused:


Please, don't further confuse the great Inquisitor.

:D

jaysay 11-07-2011 18:35

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918134)
Please, don't further confuse the great Inquisitor.

:D

Sorry:D

cashman 11-07-2011 18:46

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918038)
'Many true and faithful Christians, because of the testimony of enemies, rivals, slaves and other low people—and still less appropriate—without tests of any kind, have been locked up in secular prisons, tortured and condemned like relapsed heretics, deprived of their goods and properties, and given over to the secular arm to be executed, at great danger to their souls, giving a pernicious example and causing scandal to many.'
- Pope Sixtus IV

The Age of Torquemada, the Grand Inquisitor

well thats really funny, if our friend pertains to be n inquisitor, i would have assumed that the main requirement of such a person, would be to "Be aware of the Facts"?:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

DaveinGermany 11-07-2011 18:56

Re: Britcliffe
 
Not really Cashy, as an inquisitor, you get the facts you want one way or another ! :rolleyes:

jaysay 11-07-2011 19:07

Re: Britcliffe
 
It appears the Great Inquisitor has not had the bottle, to show his face, and reply for himself, looks like it could be another seven day wonder who does a runner, bye ::bye2:

wallop79 11-07-2011 20:53

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918120)
If some body decides to slag me of calling me a lacky from behind a screen name he's nothing but a sniveling coward, end of story, no matter how many bloody letters he writes to the press, because I've always stated that the press should print unsigned letters anyway, and the fact is this is different, its instant reply, not waiting for a week to see if the editor allows rebuttal, so if he can't stand the heat keep out the blood kitchen

Well put Jaysay, people shouldn't be allowed to slag people off on here, after all isn't that Libel?? Maybe torquemada will have the "decency" to message you and tell you where they got their informed information from ?? :confused:

jaysay 12-07-2011 10:10

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 918165)
Well put Jaysay, people shouldn't be allowed to slag people off on here, after all isn't that Libel?? Maybe torquemada will have the "decency" to message you and tell you where they got their informed information from ?? :confused:

Ya and pigs might fly

Mikejoed 12-07-2011 14:35

Re: Britcliffe
 
I can't say I know PB personally, though I know of him, as any reader of the local press will do. I'll pin my colours to the mast very clearly as a Labour supporter. And in that I am disappointed that PB wasn't ousted at the last election. Reminds me of the proverbial watsit stuck to a blanket and takes some shifting :D

I'm sorry, on most things I'm prepared to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, irrespective of their political persuasion. I admire any person who puts themselves forward for service to the community without seeing any gain for themselves. However, when a councillor says he needs his £38,000 allowance as a councillor because
Quote:

"I have to live"!
then I can't help but see him in the same light as all those MPs in the expenses scandal ;)

I don't think we should be too bewildered at PBs relentless hold on his ward if the majority of the constituents are true blue Tories :rolleyes: I'm just grateful we now have a labour majority council.

cashman 12-07-2011 14:44

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikejoed (Post 918257)
I can't say I know PB personally, though I know of him, as any reader of the local press will do. I'll pin my colours to the mast very clearly as a Labour supporter. And in that I am disappointed that PB wasn't ousted at the last election. Reminds me of the proverbial watsit stuck to a blanket and takes some shifting :D

I'm sorry, on most things I'm prepared to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, irrespective of their political persuasion. I admire any person who puts themselves forward for service to the community without seeing any gain for themselves. However, when a councillor says he needs his £38,000 allowance as a councillor because then I can't help but see him in the same light as all those MPs in the expenses scandal ;)

I don't think we should be too bewildered at PBs relentless hold on his ward if the majority of the constituents are true blue Tories :rolleyes: I'm just grateful we now have a labour majority council.

i aint convinced the majority of his constituents are true blue Tories Mike, they may be, from when i lived up yon, i would think around 50/50, the fact is the horrible git has been a damn fair Ward Councillor, although i'm spitting feathers saying it.;)

Mikejoed 12-07-2011 14:58

Re: Britcliffe
 
I appreciate your honesty Cashman!

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 15:44

Re: Britcliffe
 
There are two benches which have recently been put in place up by Merlin Drive in Ossy; both have plaques placed on them.

I wonder if any of you could possibly have a look at those plaques, take a note of what each says, and then post that on here.

garinda 12-07-2011 16:20

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikejoed (Post 918257)
I don't think we should be too bewildered at PBs relentless hold on his ward if the majority of the constituents are true blue Tories :rolleyes:

If you'd have read this thread rather more carefully, you'd have seen that I'd posted as a resident in Cllr. Britcliffe's ward, and that political allegiance has nothing to do his 'relentless hold' on St. Andrew's ward.

He's a good local councillor, with a proven track record, which probably adds to his appeal. More so that some new Fanny-Ann, who people know very little of, and who might not know their political arse from their elbow.

It's definitely the person, rather than the party, that means he's re-elected.

As for the stupidly, snide, 'true blue Tories' comment, that shows your gross naivety.

As someone who sees it as it is, that being he's a good ward councillor, but also someone who in public was one of the fiercest and most vocal critics, whist he was leading the council, you're way off the mark if you're trying to attach a 'true blue' label to me.

Indeed, whilst attacking some of the ludicrous policies and decisions taken under his leadership, many of his supporters accused me of being a leftist, Trotskyist, blood red political agitator.

So to surmise...you are very, very, wrong.

That's kindly ignoring the fact that historically this was seen as a safe Labour ward.

;)

Margaret Pilkington 12-07-2011 16:31

Re: Britcliffe
 
I think we have to allow Mike a bit of leeway. It is easy to skip through a thread and think you have the gist of it...and unless you have lived in the area for a long time then some of the minutiae he may not be aware of...for no other reason than he wasn't here when incidents happened.
I think many of the older people vote for the person in any ward...rather sticking with the devil they know, than voting for someone they don't know.(which you have mentioned)
He may have been a wonderful ward councillor, but his antics as the leader of the council were risible...and to any outsider, makes the borough a laughing stock.
He didn't do a great deal for the town, and what he did do was aimed at massaging his monster ego(or there wouldn't have been half as many pics of him in the local papers).

garinda 12-07-2011 16:36

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 918275)
I think we have to allow Mike a bit of leeway. It is easy to skip through a thread and think you have the gist of it...and unless you have lived in the area for a long time then some of the minutiae he may not be aware of...for no other reason than he wasn't here when incidents happened.
I think many of the older people vote for the person in any ward...rather sticking with the devil they know, than voting for someone they don't know.(which you have mentioned)
He may have been a wonderful ward councillor, but his antics as the leader of the council were risible...and to any outsider, makes the borough a laughing stock.
He didn't do a great deal for the town, and what he did do was aimed at massaging his monster ego(or there wouldn't have been half as many pics of him in the local papers).

Oh, I quite agree.

I was explaining the reason he's re-elected. Which has very little to do with the people in his ward being 'true blue Tories'.

As evidence of my own observations not being politically motivated, I could quite easily link at least fifty threads attacking H.B.C. whilst Cllr. Britcliffe was Leader of the Council.

:rolleyes::D

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 16:44

Re: Britcliffe
 
Just check out the wording on those benches at Merlin.

garinda 12-07-2011 16:55

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918278)
Just check out the wording on those benches at Merlin.

There isn't an image of a certain someone's visage on the seat, done by poker work, with a brass plaques on the back, saying 'Sit on my face, and tell me that you love me' is there?

:eek::D:eek:

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 17:05

Re: Britcliffe
 
Garinda,

Just get your arse up there, take a note of what's written and report back.

Margaret Pilkington 12-07-2011 17:26

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918276)
Oh, I quite agree.

I was explaining the reason he's re-elected. Which has very little to do with the people in his ward being 'true blue Tories'.

As evidence of my own observations not being politically motivated, I could quite easily link at least fifty threads attacking H.B.C. whilst Cllr. Britcliffe was Leader of the Council.

:rolleyes::D

Yes, you were G.
I was just trying to be kind to Mike and point out why he may not know of the background.
And I know that your response was not politically motivated....but it never does any harm to reiterate that fact.

JCB 12-07-2011 17:27

Re: Britcliffe
 
Brian Walmsley is also a councillor for St Andrews Ward in Ossy .

Does anyone know how long he has held that position ?

Ken Moss 12-07-2011 17:37

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikejoed (Post 918257)
I can't say I know PB personally, though I know of him, as any reader of the local press will do. I'll pin my colours to the mast very clearly as a Labour supporter. And in that I am disappointed that PB wasn't ousted at the last election. Reminds me of the proverbial watsit stuck to a blanket and takes some shifting :D

I'm sorry, on most things I'm prepared to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, irrespective of their political persuasion. I admire any person who puts themselves forward for service to the community without seeing any gain for themselves. However, when a councillor says he needs his £38,000 allowance as a councillor because then I can't help but see him in the same light as all those MPs in the expenses scandal ;)

I don't think we should be too bewildered at PBs relentless hold on his ward if the majority of the constituents are true blue Tories :rolleyes: I'm just grateful we now have a labour majority council.

Although control has shifted, each individual councillor is elected for a four year term and Peter Britcliffe will walk among us until 2014 at the earliest as he was re-elected at the same time as I got on the council. He is also a county councillor which means that in addition he will hold that seat until at least 2013.

There is no love lost between me and him as we have locked horns on several subjects that I think the Conservatives would have preferred to remain unquestioned. Personally speaking, I find his conduct within the council to be outright disrespectful rather than simply political posturing and following his ejection from the chamber at the last full meeting there was a palpable shift in the atmosphere for the better.

Just my opinion, but there's no need for it and I feel that panto performances demean the whole council.

garinda 12-07-2011 17:38

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 918292)
Yes, you were G.
I was just trying to be kind to Mike and point out why he may not know of the background.
And I know that your response was not politically motivated....but it never does any harm to reiterate that fact.

Then I shall follow your gracious lead.

I'll ignore the snidey 'true blue Tories' comment, and be as nice as pie.

:)

(The author of this post would like to thank Mrs. Lovett's pie shop for their kind sponsorship of said pie.)

:D

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 17:41

Re: Britcliffe
 
Forget the half-wit political polemics...

What's the wording on the benches?

jaysay 12-07-2011 17:44

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918302)
Then I shall follow your gracious lead.

I'll ignore the snidey 'true blue Tories' comment, and be as nice as pie.

:)

(The author of this post would like to thank Mrs. Lovett's pie shop for their kind sponsorship of said pie.)

:D

Ged away wi ya yur a ravin leftie:D:D:D

jaysay 12-07-2011 17:49

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 918293)
Brian Walmsley is also a councillor for St Andrews Ward in Ossy .

Does anyone know how long he has held that position ?

If my memory serves me right I think Brain stood as county council candidate in 1999 and lost but won a council seat the year after in 2000, think he's up for reelection next year

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 17:52

Re: Britcliffe
 
Oh dear....Jaysay's changing the subject.

Check the writing on those benches!

Margaret Pilkington 12-07-2011 18:00

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 918302)
Then I shall follow your gracious lead.

I'll ignore the snidey 'true blue Tories' comment, and be as nice as pie.

:)

(The author of this post would like to thank Mrs. Lovett's pie shop for their kind sponsorship of said pie.)

:D

On the internet it is hard to get nuances across I know.......I didn't read them as snidey comments G...maybe I missed something.

Thank you for considering me gracious....though I would say it wasn't gracious, just balanced....from someone who, like yourself has no particular political leanings...despite what some would have folk believe(name begins with an M).(NO not Mike)

jaysay 12-07-2011 18:03

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918312)
Oh dear....Jaysay's changing the subject.

Check the writing on those benches!

Ya got some sort of a bench fetish:Dwhatever floats yer boat

Margaret Pilkington 12-07-2011 18:04

Re: Britcliffe
 
Why the interest in the benches...did you bequeath them...are you afraid they might have mis-spelt your name???

garinda 12-07-2011 18:05

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918304)
Forget the half-wit political polemics...

What's the wording on the benches?

I'm struggling to put one blasted foot infront of the other today, so won't be venturing out to satisfy your curiosity.

Ask a policeman.

Dial 999, if it's an emergency.

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 18:11

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 918325)
Why the interest in the benches...did you bequeath them...are you afraid they might have mis-spelt your name???

It is the exact wording on who bequeathed them and who paid for them that is important. It is possible I may have misread what was on there, but I think not; that's why I'm asking if anyone here can detail just what is written thereupon.

Margaret Pilkington 12-07-2011 18:14

Re: Britcliffe
 
I am pretty sure you didn't misread what was on them.......anyone who understands/can use the meaning of political polemics surely has enough education to read the wording on a simple bench without any help from us lesser mortals.

garinda 12-07-2011 18:15

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918335)
It is the exact wording on who bequeathed them and who paid for them that is important. It is possible I may have misread what was on there, but I think not; that's why I'm asking if anyone here can detail exactly was is written.

I've just taken a taxi there.

You owe me.

Just under a crude phallus, it says 'GeM LUVS J.C. 4 Eva'.

Happy now?

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 18:26

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 918338)
I am pretty sure you didn't misread what was on them.......anyone who understands/can use the meaning of political polemics surely has enough education to read the wording on a simple bench without any help from us lesser mortals.

Unfortunately, I was in a hell of a rush and and on the mobile as I went past talking about some maths stuff so I only had a glimpse of the detail. That's why I'm asking now if someone can copy it and confirm what I think that I've seen.

jaysay 12-07-2011 18:29

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918353)
Unfortunately, I was in a hell of a rush and and on the mobile as I went past talking about some maths stuff so I only had a glimpse of the detail. That's why I'm asking now if someone can copy it and confirm what I think that I've seen.

I'm beginging to worry about you Tealeaf:eek::eek::eek::eek:

jaysay 12-07-2011 18:31

Re: Britcliffe
 
Just a thought as anybody seen or heard from Torquemada lately or has he really done a runner

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 18:39

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918357)
I'm beginging to worry about you Tealeaf:eek::eek::eek::eek:

There's nowt to worry about, Jaysay.

However, given the fact that most people in Ossy have an IQ of about 20 (roughly that of a three month old parrot) then I realise that reading and writing is an exercise beyond them; so possibly someone from Church or Accy could venture up beyond the lamp to check the said inscriptions.

JCB 12-07-2011 18:44

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918309)
If my memory serves me right I think Brain stood as county council candidate in 1999 and lost but won a council seat the year after in 2000, think he's up for reelection next year

Thanks .

We need some benches up Bullough Park that are in a shaded spot . ;)

jaysay 12-07-2011 18:53

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JCB (Post 918364)
Thanks .

We need some benches up Bullough Park that are in a shaded spot . ;)

Have a word with Tealeaf he's the Accy Web Bench man;):cool:

garinda 12-07-2011 18:59

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918362)
There's nowt to worry about, Jaysay.

However, given the fact that most people in Ossy have an IQ of about 20 (roughly that of a three month old parrot) then I realise that reading and writing is an exercise beyond them; so possibly someone from Church or Accy could venture up beyond the lamp to check the said inscriptions.

The unveiling of the benches was photographed, and published in the press.

If only that unfortunate habit hadn't affected your eyesight, you could have run your one good beady-eye over said photographs, and have perhaps deciphered what was written on the plaques yourself.

http://www.messentools.com/images/em...os-big-255.gif

Neil 12-07-2011 19:03

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918284)
Garinda,

Just get your arse up there, take a note of what's written and report back.

It would be easier for him to walk along the bottom path in the park on his travels and read what I assume to be the same plaque

jaysay 12-07-2011 19:05

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 918378)
It would be easier for him to walk along the bottom path in the park on his travels and read what I assume to be the same plaque

What does that say Neil, made in Germany:)

Neil 12-07-2011 19:16

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918380)
What does that say Neil, made in Germany:)

I can half remember, its something about it being not for residents of Church to use I think, unless I read it wrong :rolleyes:

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 19:18

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 918378)
It would be easier for him to walk along the bottom path in the park on his travels and read what I assume to be the same plaque

Oh dear.

Can you recollect the wording on that one?

Neil 12-07-2011 19:37

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 918389)
Oh dear.

Can you recollect the wording on that one?

I can yes and I think I know what your getting out, I take it you read the word donated?

Tealeaf 12-07-2011 19:39

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 918398)
I can yes and I think I know what your getting out, I take it you read the word donated?

That or words to that effect.

That's why I'm asking about the exact wording.

DaveinGermany 12-07-2011 19:42

Re: Britcliffe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 918359)
Just a thought as anybody seen or heard from Torquemada lately or has he really done a runner

Torquemada.....the Inquistion......Just wait ! When you're least expecting it ! No body expects the Inquisition ! :D

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