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Should we shoot 'em?

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Yes.

It would bring a quick end to the scum's reign of terror, and they would go back to playing gangstas in their bedrooms.

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yep no question, the activity would soon cease.

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Don't be daft

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ok let em carry on n some poor innocent sod will probably be burnt alive. that must be more important than the scum thats doin it.:rolleyes:

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Why's it daft?

Any decent person will be in their own homes, hoping their family and property survive.

Fight fire with fire, literally.

Tinie 'Tears' Tempahs, running off home to bed.

As the bullets fly, less gangsta rap, more gansta crap...themselves.

Bless.

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As much as most decent people will stay off the streets, others will have no choice, and be out there tonight, on those streets, trying to go about their lawful business.

Nurses, hospital/transport workers, mothers going into labour, for instance.

Why should their lives be at risk, because of some feral scum?

They deserve protection, and to be safe.

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The disgrace is, NO government has the balls to do it.:(

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It is daft and I reckon the police would not like the idea of shooting people even if they are looting..the events of this evening are bad but this sort of thing has been going on in Northen Ireland for 40 years.. would you say that the looters and rioters there should be shot on sight?.. the last time anything like that happend we ended up with years of massacers.. get a grip.

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Perhaps people may leave London after this, and now claim political asylum in places like Somalia, and Iraq, because they're deemed safer.

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I'm talking Army not police. they are more used to rooting out scum. how do you suggest there dealt wi? community service? tell em its wrong?

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I'm sure you will get into the spirit of taking in refugees from London..but can you imagine the crowds overlooking the ducks and geese? :)

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As as been said by others, this criminal civil unrest is no different from the mindless acts of violence we saw/see in Northern Ireland.

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If you arrive, with a label round your neck, jam butties wrapped in brown paper, and your gas mask, it's a sorry.

No room at the inn.

;):D

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Right straight choice here. Tealeaf/Mancie/ Cyfr, which one?:D;)

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there's my choice..if yer going to get in a state were you shoot to kill looters then we might as well all move to Syria..or go the whole hog and implent Sharia law.

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Doh .....the Syrian Govt. is secular and is fighting to stop the implementation of Sharia law thats why the Saudis have withdrawn their Ambassador ......just goes to show how dumb the western leaders are in backing this "Arab Spring" bullcrap ..... thats if the West really really don't want the Islamic Brotherhood and their ilk taking over :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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what army this is 2011

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And also what Police, this is 2011? There are plans afoot to cut the number of police in London. The common theme running through the reports of rioting across London was that there were no police about.

Cameron is chairing a meeting of COBRA at 9am. Item 1 should be how to double the number of police in London, and Item 2 should be how to give them the resources they need. Stun guns, water cannon, tear gas etc etc

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Seems to me the police are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't , just what is the role of the police , from reading posts on Accy web they aren't allowed to ticket illegally parked cars , a traffic wardens job, not allowed to stop public intoxination outside the town hall/market hall . Seems to me most folks think the police are made up of "Gene Hunt/ Life on Mars" gangster type characters, doesn't help when the London police let themselves down with things like the money for stories News of the World scandal or local police are involved in drug sales/firearms or wife beating as reported in the local press, any wonder they have lost all respect . :confused: :confused:

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Gene Hunt would have sorted this mess out by now.

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This may sound strange but I agree with Mancie on this, shooting people on the streets ain't the answer, two wrongs don't make a right, the organisers of these riots and they are being orchestrated, should feel the full weight of the law, they are using social networking sites to coordinate these mindless actions and the police will be able to gain access after the fact to track down these criminals, I'm just waiting for the human rights brigade to chirp up which is one thing sure to happen

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It ain't just about shooting anybody on the street. It's about shooting those who are running down the street with a 42" plasma flatscreen on their head. What's wrong with that?

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nothing but jaysays wi teresa- not the british way.:rolleyes:

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This is costing millions, if caught its a slap on the wrist, maybe the odd imprisonment all again at great cost to the taxpayer, get the armed police on the streets, kneecapping a few of them might just start getting the message across to the mindless scum.

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would cost more in medical bills etc,if yeh kneecapped em wallop, much cheaper to just knock em off.;)

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One thing that is now peeing me off is the BBC have just announced they are cutting programs on BBC1 at 11am for a news special on the riots, what that means is they will be running the same program on two channels at the same time BBC1 and the BBC News Channel, its a joke

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I think the British way is called 'Looting by consent'.

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well yeh shoulda voted to shoot em, would be more entertaining.:D

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We could have some new TV shows:

"Britains Got Looters"

"Homes Under the Arsonist"

"Fire in the Attic"

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If that were to happen it would be blanket cover on BBC 1 2 3 4 News Channel and every other bloody outlet;)

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If it did happen,i certainly wouldn't object. arsonists/looters do not deserve to walk the earth.

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This act of mindless violence does not surprise me at all with many youth of today. With this country's softly softly approach to how we should bring up our kids, something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.
They have given no thought to the poor folk that lived in those flats above the shops let alone the shop keepers who have lost their livelihoods. No one yet knows if anyone has been burned alive in this carnage.
What do we do? Well I personally think that the police be given all their powers back to be able to do their job properly. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I would hate to be in their shoes at the moment.
The best way IMO would be to impose a curfew for everyone until this has been brought under control in order to sieve out the culprits. Many parents will then be in a position to see if their kids are involved, the police will be better placed to restore normality and the government should throw the hardest punishment possible at all involved.
There is talks of bringing the army in, yes this would frighten the damn life out of these thugs and maybe that's what's needed, but what should be happening is what someone has already mentioned, and that is increase our police force nor reduce it.

My heart goes out to all those who have been affected by this and I hope we dont see a forth night of it.

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Not everyone can get BBC News Channel. Maybe when the whole country has gone digital there will be no need for the BBC to have news programs on any channel except the BBC News Channel but until then we will have it duplicated.

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Have you been reading the Guardian again, you bleeding heart lefty liberal dogooder! :D

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And your telling me people will be jumping with joy because the BBC are giving this blanket coverage, half and hour on the news should be enough for anybody, that's if they can stand half an hour

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You know me better Wyn, would wipe my tucas with it mate

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Some will, some wont. You can't please everyone but many people don't have 24 hours news programs. Probably more interesting than daytime TV anyway

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:confused:

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A polite way of saying arse:D

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A new programme for Saturdays

"Match of the Day" sponsored by Swan Vestas. :(

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Anybody who wants to watch this crap during the day are very sad, because is the same thing being repeated every 10 minutes, the test card is more interesting

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His bottom, Steve.
It is one of those yank words.

With respect to the BBC news and all the other the other news channels is that it is giving loads of publicity to the scum carrying out these acts of anarchy.....I'm not sure this is a good thing.
I think that Cherokee had the right idea......a curfew, and perhaps limited coverage of the riots...not exactly a 'blackout' but limit what is being reported......no sensational footage...perhaps just reportage without pictures.

Those who are in the area can see what is happeneing.....and the film footage just goes to give other 'monkeys'(as in monkey see, monkey do) ideas.

When situations like this arise the news channels go into overkill.

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Thanks Margaret, Jay, learnt a new word now! :)

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Sorry Margaret the saying actually comes from South Africa, was used a lot by a mate who spent many years in Joe Berg:D

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I have heard it said in American films...the one which springs to mind is 'Grumpy Old Men' with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau.

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Did you all see the pictures of the guy stealing from JD Sports?

He had no mask on, was caught with a full face shot on HD news camera, and stole just one box of trainers.

What a tool.

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Very witty :):)

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There is one spooner who has put a picture of himself on facebook, with all the stuff he has robbed...wonder how long it will take the police to home in on him.

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Well the poll seems to overwhelmingly convey what the majority of us think should happen.

Sorry, bleeding hearts.

Since most of these feral scum seem to be wearing hoodies, perhaps Cameron's view, that all a hoodie needs is a hug, to make them feel a valued member of society, has been believed by a small minority of Accy Webbers.

The rest of us would happily see them scatter, as the tanks rolled in, and the bullets flew.

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So we arrest these thugs, then what, thanks to Himan rights laws, European laws, lack of prisons being built, we have to give them community service or a small fine. It's a joke.
Maybe we should hire Sheriff Joe, the man who makes inmates were pink clothes as they work on the chain gang.
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Since there are so few prison places, most will probably just be fined...and pay it back a pound per week out of their drugs money.

Tough on crime. Tough on the causes of crime.

Utter testicles!

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There is plenty of space, just knock down the gutted buildings, throw a chain link fence around it and put them there.

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they should definatley start shooting looters with rubber bullets as collecting them afterwards and installing small motors then selling them to china as pleasure aids would help boost the economy ;)

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Don't think so , its Yiddish/Hebrew , usually spelt Tuchus (tushie) ;)

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Or perhaps ship 'em, and drop 'em off at South Georgia, with a few sheets of canvas to build shelters, to protect themselves from the south Atlantic winter.

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A touch overgenerous me thinks, perhaps they could have the canvas if, & only if, their parents are prepared to pay for them out of their Social security?

(Yes, I know not everyone on benefits is as manky as this lot, I'm having to draw the dole myself at the moment).
;)

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I recall back in Northern Ireland, back in the '80's people used to collect rubber bullets (actually, they're hard plastic) and stick 'em on the mantle piece (just under the plaster ducks). The more you had, the higher your esteem.

Rubber bullets ain't the answer; 7.62 calibre with total yaw and full metal jacket is.

5.56 is mickey mouse stuff, so lets forget about that. Shoot to kill, not to wound.

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Then, we can offer them a state funeral, mind you, we could have to take on the greenies, they would riot about how quick we are using landfill!
:p

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It all started to go downhill when some sabre-toothed do-gooder began her childline program with more RIGHTS for children some years ago. Hence snotty nosed, untouchable kids having the upper hand as is currently reflected in what is going on today.

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Thank you for that information.....see, you can learn something new every day:)...even at my age.:D

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Corporal punishment in state schools was outlawed by Parliament with effect from 1987.

I believe a Mrs Thatcher was in charge at the time.

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Esther Ranson was the one I had in mind, but I guess it's easy to point the finger at any past decisions which have proved to be counteractive in so many ways, irrespective of whosoever made them. Bending over backwards to accomodate teenage mothers who went on to breed with any Tom, Dick or Harry that took her fancy is another oft-quoted niggle. The whole of society will need to take several steps backwards if we are to counteract the many ills that assail us when we are clearly in too weak a position economically to properly deal with them. There are already grumbles from overseas re the wisdom of sending teams to the 2012 Olympics.

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I think if I had a rising star in athletics within my family I would also advise them not to go to London.

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dont worry were sending john smeaton doon with a couple of thousand of strathclydes finest BBC News - Scottish police 'ready to help' tackle London riots they are already on their way..

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With any luck they will tie you to their radiator grill as a mascot.

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Maybe it is time to learn lessons from other countries, I believe in some Arfrican nations they used to use large batons and shields, if a few rooters heads got broke, well that's that.
Maybe a forceful approach is the only way forward.
Interesting to see how tough these thugs are, covering their heads with hoodies...

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nice one lol:D

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Yes, I'm surprised about that, going into such a dangerous environment I would have thought H&S would march them off site for not wearing a hard hat!

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As we are short on prison space perhaps they should stop the dole money and child benefit of those involved and make them all do their community service repairing the damage that they caused in the first place.

It would make parents sit up and take notice and certainly teach the scumbags that you dont get something for nothing in this life and everything must be paid for one way or another.

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You must be new here.

Welcome to Britain.

:mad:

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David Cameron: "I am granting the Metropolitan Police emergency powers to use water cannons, rubber bullets and tear gas to take back control of our streets from these poisoning parasites biting the hand that feeds them. In addition I am deploying the British Army as a visible presence to provide the authority that is so very lacking.". ....Carlsberg don't do Prime Ministers but if they did it would be the best prime minister ever

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I'll drink to that.

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lots of sirens screeching in Accrington City bout 10 mins ago, have the looters come to empty the £1 shops, card shops & charity shops?? good look to them

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If the government aren't going to send the troops in, the only other solution is to broadcast Jeremy Kyle programmes on a loop, 24/7.

Since tiny teen gangstas rarely leave the house until they've watched this programme, this is the only other way to end this intolerable situation.

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Nice one, think I'll be chuckling for a while at this one !:D:D

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The ironic thing is, if he DID say something like that, the Con/Dems would see their poll ratings go shooting skyhigh, cuts or no cuts!

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For those of you who are saying 'bring in the army', I would like you to realise that doing that is invoking an existing act of parliament

Civil Contingencies Act 2004

It sounds like a solution until you see the strings attached -

(b)provide for or enable the requisition or confiscation of property (with or without compensation);
(c)provide for or enable the destruction of property, animal life or plant life (with or without compensation);
(d)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, movement to or from a specified place;
(e)require, or enable the requirement of, movement to or from a specified place;
(f)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, assemblies of specified kinds, at specified places or at specified times;
(g)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, travel at specified times;
(h)prohibit, or enable the prohibition of, other specified activities;
(i)create an offence of—
(i)failing to comply with a provision of the regulations;
(ii)failing to comply with a direction or order given or made under the regulations;
(iii)obstructing a person in the performance of a function under or by virtue of the regulations;
(l)enable the Defence Council to authorise the deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(m)make provision (which may include conferring powers in relation to property) for facilitating any deployment of Her Majesty’s armed forces;
(n)confer jurisdiction on a court or tribunal (which may include a tribunal established by the regulations);



That sounds too much like Martial Law to me:eek:

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Quite frankly I'd rather live under martial law at the moment, than be mob ruled by feral scum.

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Did you not see the film or read the book 1984?
Would you really tolerate a life like that, just because police are too timid.

martial law legal definition of martial law. martial law synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

Certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of Habeas Corpus may be suspended (this writ allows persons who are unlawfully imprisoned to gain freedom through a court proceeding).

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I tend not to bother posting things I don't mean.

If martial law needed to be temporarily invoked, in order for the troops to get the scum off the streets, so be it.

I'd rather that, than be ruled by gangs of teenage criminals, hell bent on causing terror, and destruction.

Yes, I have read 1984.

Enjoyable fiction.

;)

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the thing is once they are off the streets how are we going to change their mindset, they are not going to go away in fact their population are growing how can we teach them right from wrong .how are we going to stop this in the future when these people say they have no future why have we reached this point. questions need to be asked and answered.

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heres yer answer get the army in n shoot all looters n arsonists. n we have reached this point cos of all the human rights ******* n bleading heart liberals.:(

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It isn't our job to teach them right from wrong......that is what god gave you parents for.
Start young and you have them for life.

They have no future because many of them skipped school, didn't bother to learn to read and write properly because they knew someone(the government, taxpayers) would make sure they wanted for nothing...except self esteem.
Their whole culture/mindset is wrong from the outset....they see no-one in employment, they believe that the only things worthwhile are the material things. Nice shades, branded footwear, designer trackies, smartphones...they spend their time playing video games...and believe that real life is like that...you shoot someone and hey...you get another life. Not like that in real life is it????

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Actually we just need Gazza to turn up with some chicken ;)

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he can't hes online n in scotland.:D:D

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I read this and for just a few seconds my heart lifted......I thought...Hooray, the man has grown a pair while he was in Tuscany...then I saw the last line(sigh).......and felt silly for even thinking that the PM had at last been galvanized into positive forceful action.

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So now you've stopped getting all excited over each successive outbreak of violence, you've turned to third rate sociology to excuse the thieves and thugs who have been on the rampage.

The police should go in hard to quell the immediate danger, break a few heads if necessary, and arrest as many as possible. Then they should receive long sentences, served in spartan conditions with hard labour.

But don't worry, C'mon, the weak inadequates who dominate our political system are on your side and will doubtless be trotting out the usual "questions need to be asked" line. The only question that needs to be asked is why are we so soft on these scum?

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Many find the work or starve dilema fairly inspiring.

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the answer is people like C'mon.:(

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i say tear gas & water cannon with indelible ink. Any one inked has alot of explaining. Then put the nominals in an outside holding pen & beast them til the judicial system can process them - bit of a wait then. As for pm - he mite be talkin the talk but is he gonna back it up? Doubt it. Maggie love her or hate her had balls & meant what she said !

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I voted no. I'd rather their limbs were torn off and whats left dipped in a vat of acid

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"Day of the Dead" is on ITV4 at the moment. I'm watching that and flicking over to the Manchester looting on News 24. Trouble is, I can no longer tell which one is which.

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Soft arsed liberal!

:D

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Certain people, on their very last day at school, lob floor and eggs and teachers' cars, and indulge in other acts of mindless vandalism.

Happy in the knowlege that they will be free from any punishment.

This is the kind of mentality we are currently seeking nationally on the streets of Britain.

Gangs of young criminals, unafraid of any punishment British law can throw at them.

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RIP Broken Britain.. You went soft on discipline!.. You went soft on immigration!You went soft on crime.. Parents were told.. 'No you can't smack the kids'....Teachers were prevented from chastising kids in schools.. The police couldn't clip a troublemaker round the ear.. Kids had rights blah…

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Are the Observer running the Citizen of the Year competition again?

I have a nomination.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...her-58795.html

:rolleyes:

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This is the one that affected me the most innit !!


BBC News - London rioters: 'Showing the rich we do what we want'

Mmm .. doesn't always come up now .. blocked.
Just go into BBC news ... is on there.

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Oh dear.

Anarchy, Vicky Pollard style.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...gPqj7x2kFtpH38

Respect.

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I have already suggested this......quite a while ago...or it might be in the other thread about rioting.