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jaysay 30-09-2011 18:17
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 936948)
Whaaat? Are you seriously telling me that's a PRO-EU view? I'd hate to see you when you're anti-something! :D
Just teasing Wyn,:rolleyes: as I've said recently the more things I here coming from Brussels the more I think we should get the flock out of there, but can't see it, too many businesses are pro Europe

walkinman221 30-09-2011 18:21
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Our government should grow some, and let them get on with suing cause we are skint and you cant take a stocking of a bare leg, could anyone see the french or the germans putting up with this ? I cant.

garinda 30-09-2011 18:28
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You'd have thought lessons would have been learned, after the dismal failure of the U.S.S.R.

When disparate people and countries were ruled from Moscow, and which eventually broke down because people like to be governed by their own governments, in their own countries.

I might take legal action against the British government.

For becoming involved in one of the biggest cons in world history. Which certainly didn't have a mandate from the British people, arrived at by a clear and fair referendum.

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2011 18:59
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 936964)
You'd have thought lessons would have been learned, after the dismal failure of the U.S.S.R.

When disparate people and countries were ruled from Moscow, and which eventually broke down because people like to be governed by their own governments, in their own countries.

I might take legal action against the British government.

For becoming involved in one of the biggest cons in world history. Which certainly didn't have a mandate from the British people, arrived at by a clear and fair referendum.
In the poll that you ran on the EU, Bernard Dawson and Claytonender said they were happy with the present situation. Could they tell us if they're still happy with the present situation and if they are, why?

garinda 30-09-2011 19:05
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 936976)
In the poll that you ran on the EU, Bernard Dawson and Claytonender said they were happy with the present situation. Could they tell us if they're still happy with the present situation and if they are, why?
Here it is.

Accrington Web - View Poll Results

I predict there'd be an even greater majority who'd be in favour of withdrawal, two more years, of unasked for interference, down the line.

jaysay 30-09-2011 19:08
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 936982)
Here it is.

Accrington Web - View Poll Results

I predict there'd be an even greater majority who'd be in favour of withdrawal, two more years, of unasked for interference, down the line.
Eyes up lads Bernards on line now, he'll be answering in a couple of sec's I hope:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2011 19:14
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 936984)
Eyes up lads Bernards on line now, he'll be answering in a couple of sec's I hope:rolleyes:
I didn't actually notice any alcohol in the room the other day. Did George bring you a carry-out or something? ;)

garinda 30-09-2011 19:24
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 936984)
Eyes up lads Bernards on line now, he'll be answering in a couple of sec's I hope:rolleyes:
Do you still support 'some independence, but have economic ties'?

The last time people were allowed a say on continuing membership of the Common Market was in 1975, when the result was...

YES - 52.1%

NO - 47.9%

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2011 19:27
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 936995)
Do you still support 'some independence, but have economic ties'?

The last time people were allowed a say on continuing membership of the Common Market was in 1975, when the result was...


YES - 259,25152.1%

NO - 237,91147.9%
Never actually realised that the vote was so close (or so low). I'd love to see the figures now, but of course the Tories, Labour and LibDems have all conspired to ensure that never happens.

garinda 30-09-2011 19:36
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 936998)
Never actually realised that the vote was so close (or so low). I'd love to see the figures now, but of course the Tories, Labour and LibDems have all conspired to ensure that never happens.
In the seventies the Conservatives were broadly pro-Common Market membership, and Labour under Wilson, were against it.

How times of changed.

Broadly both parties are pro, otherwise we'd be allowed a referendum, and the people are anti-continued membership of the centralised governing monster that it has become.

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2011 20:03
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 936984)
Eyes up lads Bernards on line now, he'll be answering in a couple of sec's I hope:rolleyes:
Ah well, guess it was not to be, Jay. Our Bernard has disappeared into the night without uttering a word on the subject. How strange! ;)

Busman747 30-09-2011 20:21
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 936876)
I think the solution is could be a simple one. Any benefits paid out by the UK to people from the EU not born here should be claimed back from the birth country of the claimant.

This should work the other way as well so UK born people claiming benefits in France should be claimed back from the UK by France.
Willow and I have looked into retirement in France and one incentive is that they get a higher state pension over there. Most of the retirement pension will still be paid from the UK but we would be entitled to a top-up IF we reside in France.

When I read the story re: immediate benefits, I wondered about all the Eastern Europeans that spend months in France awaiting the opportunity to sneak into the UK. Are the French paying them benefits while they wait in Calais? I seriously doubt it.

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2011 20:35
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Originally Posted by Busman747 (Post 937016)
When I read the story re: immediate benefits, I wondered about all the Eastern Europeans that spend months in France awaiting the opportunity to sneak into the UK. Are the French paying them benefits while they wait in Calais? I seriously doubt it.
Those waiting in Calais are from countries like Iran and Afghanistan - ie from outside the EU. If they were from Eastern European countries inside the EU, they wouldn't need to "sneak" into the UK - they can just walk straight in under the EU freedom of movement laws. When they get here, there are some restrictions on the benefits they can receive. Once the EU have sued us, they will be able to walk straight in and claim a full range of benefits.

...and I am still waiting for answers from Claytonender and Bernard on why they are happy with this.

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2011 23:34
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...and not only are they rubbing our noses in it, they're making us pay through the nose for the privilege.

.Each household lost £299 to Brussels last year - Telegraph

...and still I'm waiting for answers from Claytonender and Bernard on why they're happy with this situation.

andrewb 01-10-2011 07:36
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Never heard something so ridiculous. We need a referendum.

Good clip from Newsnight the other night on the Euro..

Peter Oborne 'Idiot' Comments Prompts EU Spokesman To Storm Off Newsnight - YouTube


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