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cashman 20-10-2011 18:01

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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 941105)
Just seen it on the news - those Libyans are worse than animals and probably no better (or even worse) than Gadaffi. I'm sickened!

Thats right should have give him community service,:rolleyes:

jaysay 20-10-2011 18:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 941123)
Thats right should have give him community service,:rolleyes:

Would that have been against his human rights cashy:confused::confused:;):rolleyes:

Tealeaf 20-10-2011 19:45

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I wonder where they'll bung the body? Will they do a Binny & chuck it in the Med? Or will they burn the buggar & scatter the ashes over the southern desert? Surely they can't give it a funeral and turn his resting place into a shrine for the likes of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Alex Salmon?

Eric 20-10-2011 20:18

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Just taken another look at the videos .... What a helluva Halloween costume that would make.:D What's the betting that some enterprising guy is making some up as we speak:rolleyes:

MargaretR 20-10-2011 20:25

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I've just seen some gory pictures of him - strange that those are published but those of Bin Laden were deemed too gory:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 20-10-2011 20:35

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Gaddy was finished of with a 9mm pistol; Binny was taken out with an assault weapon with a 'dum dum' bullet which took off half his head as well as the body shots. That's one of the reasons why his piccy's were never shown. Anyway - why do you want to know - presumably another conspiracy theory?

Retlaw 20-10-2011 21:18

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 941163)
Gaddy was finished of with a 9mm pistol; Binny was taken out with an assault weapon with a 'dum dum' bullet which took off half his head as well as the body shots. That's one of the reasons why his piccy's were never shown. Anyway - why do you want to know - presumably another conspiracy theory?

There is no such thing as a dum dum bullet, thats Hollywood fiction.
Dum Dum is an Arsenal in India, where a Captain Clay experimented with hollow nosed .303 bullets.
in was produced in Mk3, 4 & 5, before being outlawed at the Haigh Convention.
All the surplus stock was used on ranges for target practice, some spent bullets have been found on the old Hambledon Ranges at Hapton.

Retlaw.

Margaret Pilkington 21-10-2011 06:04

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I know that this man was a dictator and had done some terrible things in his life, so why do I feel so bad about seeing him being manhandled and having such an undignified,tortured and terrible end?
And why does it sadden me to see people rejoicing at the loss of a mans life?

Today, the news coverage/video footage of this event seems so intrusive.......and while I know the people in Libya will need to see proof that this man has finally been defeated....do we need to see it all over the papers?

odders 21-10-2011 07:10

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Another despot disposed of :mosher:

Who or where next:confused:

Eric 21-10-2011 07:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 941194)
I know that this man was a dictator and had done some terrible things in his life, so why do I feel so bad about seeing him being manhandled and having such an undignified,tortured and terrible end?
And why does it sadden me to see people rejoicing at the loss of a mans life?

Today, the news coverage/video footage of this event seems so intrusive.......and while I know the people in Libya will need to see proof that this man has finally been defeated....do we need to see it all over the papers?

Why should anyone feel bad about the corpse, when not too many had any positive feelings for the man when he was alive ... doesn't make too much sense to me. And I really don't see too much undignified about his end. He said he would not run away; that he would die fighting in Libya. And it seems as if that is what he did. I suppose that makes him one of the very few leaders who actually do what they say.:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 21-10-2011 07:32

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 941176)
There is no such thing as a dum dum bullet, thats Hollywood fiction.
Dum Dum is an Arsenal in India, where a Captain Clay experimented with hollow nosed .303 bullets.
in was produced in Mk3, 4 & 5, before being outlawed at the Haigh Convention.
All the surplus stock was used on ranges for target practice, some spent bullets have been found on the old Hambledon Ranges at Hapton.

Retlaw.

Ooops...sorry Retlaw. I was simply using the term in a generic sense to refer to an expanding bullet.

Oh, by the way, it was Captain Bertie-Clay who experimented with both soft point and hollow point nosed variations on the .303 cartridge. I suspect you are also referring to the Hague Convention, not the Haigh Convention (whatever that might be) but may I suggest you also reference the Declaration of St Petersburg which preceded the Hague by a third of a century and renounced the use of such weaponry.

Margaret Pilkington 21-10-2011 08:02

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 941201)
Why should anyone feel bad about the corpse, when not too many had any positive feelings for the man when he was alive ... doesn't make too much sense to me. And I really don't see too much undignified about his end. He said he would not run away; that he would die fighting in Libya. And it seems as if that is what he did. I suppose that makes him one of the very few leaders who actually do what they say.:rolleyes:

I know what you are saying is essentially true, but that doesn't stop me feeling uncomfortable about it........not that he didn't run away....he said he would die in Libya, and so in that respect he got his wish.

But, however you look at it his end was undignified......he was tossed about, and if reports are to be believed he was, if not begging for mercy, asking not to be killed.

Maybe it is my gender/background that makes me feel that his treatment was inhuman.(and yes, I know that what goes around comes around....he had done some very bad things)

Maybe the joyful scenes were not just the rejoicing of the overflow of this despot, but the hope that things can now be different. I hope so too, but I fear that it won't much alter the situation in region.

jaysay 21-10-2011 08:36

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 941163)
Gaddy was finished of with a 9mm pistol; Binny was taken out with an assault weapon with a 'dum dum' bullet which took off half his head as well as the body shots. That's one of the reasons why his piccy's were never shown. Anyway - why do you want to know - presumably another conspiracy theory?

Is he dead or is he not:confused::confused::confused::confused:

jaysay 21-10-2011 08:40

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Just wondering if we will now get answers and conviction of the person who killed policewoman Yvonne Flecture

Eric 21-10-2011 09:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 941203)
I know what you are saying is essentially true, but that doesn't stop me feeling uncomfortable about it........not that he didn't run away....he said he would die in Libya, and so in that respect he got his wish.

But, however you look at it his end was undignified......he was tossed about, and if reports are to be believed he was, if not begging for mercy, asking not to be killed.

Maybe it is my gender/background that makes me feel that his treatment was inhuman.(and yes, I know that what goes around comes around....he had done some very bad things)

Maybe the joyful scenes were not just the rejoicing of the overflow of this despot, but the hope that things can now be different. I hope so too, but I fear that it won't much alter the situation in region.

Dictators and despots often meet undignified ends .... there are lots of examples in the historical record, some recent, some not. Not too much dignified about what happened to Richard lll (1485, I believe) ... and poor Cromwell, dug up and hanged ... and Mussolini: upside down from a lamp post.

In a way, I kinda admire the guy ... he was a little weird, but there again Michael Jackson wasn't all that normal either; however, he said he would win or he would die. He had the balls to face what he knew was his inevitable fate. Good for him.:alright:


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