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garinda 05-11-2011 21:27

What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Was going to title this thread 'What melts your heart?'

Same thing. I suppose.

Hope you understand what I mean.

It can be anything.

Anything at all.

Anyway, this is what happened today, which tugged at my heartstrings, and got me thinking about it.

I've never really been shy, especially when it comes to speaking in public.

(No suprise to people that know me.)

School, church, work. I was always the first to volunteer.

Be it to read a poem at Speech Day, the Bible lesson from the pulpit, or selling some idea to a room full of suits.

It's not about attention seeking. I know it's something I can do well. People will always hear me. I try to give light, shade, and spacing, to make what I'm saying interesting to the ear.

It's not something I do much anymore. The odd Parkinson's conference, the occasional talk to art students.

Wasn't a speech today. Just a few words about what needed sharing, and then reading out a letter, to a room of no more than fifty people.

It's the only time I have a really noticable shake, when stood up talking. Not nerves. Just a freaky thing that happens.

I always try and project my voice. Waste of time, mumbling, if no one can hear you.

So, look up, remember, you're talking to people, not just a room with four walls.

Reading the letter, eyes scanning the faces of the people listening.

Momentarily, my eyes locked on one other person's.

An odd, big, almost forced smile, masking what could have been lips that really wanted to quiver.

Eyes, not crying, but filled to the brim, with tears that wouldn't be allowed to fall.

Was literally just a millisecond. A brief moment of time.

Without any words being passed.

That momentary glance told me...

'I've loved you since I first held you in my arms, and showed you to your Dad. I'm as proud of you stood there today, trying your best, just as you did when you first read the lesson in church, when we could hardly see the top of your head over the altar. You're still my little lad, and I love you son.'

As I say, we aren't a sloppy family. Believing love is an act you show. Not something you make a big song and dance about saying, and not really meaning.

One little passing glance.

Tugged at my heartstrings, and helped me appreciate how blessed, and lucky I am.

So, what tugs at your heartstrings, fills your heart with gladness, melts your heart, brings a lump to your throat?

Can be anything.

Doesn't need to be like all this waffle, the cheap birthday card guff, I've just come out with.

:D

garinda 05-11-2011 21:35

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Though I really should have worn those glasses, they say I need now.

Mum was in the kitchen, brewing up.

God knows who it was sat there in the Town Hall today, listening to me drone on.

Bored to tears.

:rolleyes::D

cashman 05-11-2011 21:42

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
With me its always been just ordinary people being crapped on.

garinda 05-11-2011 21:48

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 945344)
With me its always been just ordinary people being crapped on.

How can you say something so profound, in such few words, and I write a thousand, which don't put it anywhere near as beautifully?

:confused::D:confused:

cashman 05-11-2011 21:51

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945347)
How can you say something so profound, in such few words, and I write a thousand, which don't put it anywhere near as beautifully?

:confused::D:confused:

Been called many things in me time mate, never profound.:D

mobertol 05-11-2011 21:54

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 945344)
With me its always been just ordinary people being crapped on.

Most eloquent Olly...just a few words.

Usually it's Garinda who manages that -not in this case...but i fully understand why, as they say in Italy " La mamma é una sola"

I will try to be succinct:

For me it is the thought of those who i love who are far away...

Margaret Pilkington 05-11-2011 21:55

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
The ill treatment of beings...human or animal.
I just cannot understand how anyone can ill treat a donkey....can look into its eyes and not see the suffering.
The same with dogs. An RSPCA advert used to move me to tears......the one where an old dog was tied up in a shambolic excuse for a garden in the cold an pouring rain.....yes, I do know it was only an advert....and yes, it was meant to grab me by the heart and rattle coins or notes out of me.

Ill treatment of elderly people/people who cannot speak for themselves(those with learning difficulties) makes my heart bleed. Tell me, does it make someone stronger to misuse and ill treat a weaker member of society? Does the power they wield give them some sort of 'kick'?
I don't know. But I hope that Karma is doled out to them and that in the quiet moments of their day...or in the darkness of their night, it comes and pokes them in the ribs.

mobertol 05-11-2011 21:57

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Just had a message from a friend which has had that effect...happiness and sadness combined almost made my heart break...:)

Michael1954 05-11-2011 22:00

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Mum saying to me that when I was a little boy she looked after me, and now things have changed it is me looking after her. Our lives changed forever in 2009.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:08

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 945357)
Mum saying to me that when I was a little boy she looked after me, and now things have changed it is me looking after her.

:)

That's as it should be.

Heartbreaking for those who never get the chance.

jedimaster 05-11-2011 22:09

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
memories of what once was and that will never be again. A little selfish I suppose but that's not only the nature of depression but also the fuel to it's fire.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:10

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 945353)
The ill treatment of beings...human or animal.
I just cannot understand how anyone can ill treat a donkey....can look into its eyes and not see the suffering.
The same with dogs. An RSPCA advert used to move me to tears......the one where an old dog was tied up in a shambolic excuse for a garden in the cold an pouring rain.....yes, I do know it was only an advert....and yes, it was meant to grab me by the heart and rattle coins or notes out of me.

Ill treatment of elderly people/people who cannot speak for themselves(those with learning difficulties) makes my heart bleed. Tell me, does it make someone stronger to misuse and ill treat a weaker member of society? Does the power they wield give them some sort of 'kick'?
I don't know. But I hope that Karma is doled out to them and that in the quiet moments of their day...or in the darkness of their night, it comes and pokes them in the ribs.

You're right.

Not religious.

But eyes are the gateway to the soul, or whatever you want to call it.

Be it man, or beast.

Michael1954 05-11-2011 22:13

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945361)
:)

That's as it should be.

Heartbreaking for those who never get the chance.

Oh so true.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:14

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945362)
memories of what once was and that will never be again. A little selfish I suppose but that's not only the nature of depression but also the fuel to it's fire.

Nothing wrong with being selfish.

They're your memories.

To do with what you wish.

But which I hope make smile.

Margaret Pilkington 05-11-2011 22:16

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945361)
:)

That's as it should be.

Heartbreaking for those who never get the chance.

I second that.

Wynonie Harris 05-11-2011 22:19

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
You know that bit in all the Second World War documentaries? After the fall of Dunkirk, but before the Battle of Britain, when the Nazis were just across the channel and it was regarded as a definite given that they would now invade and the rest of the world had written us off. This is the bit where the commentator says: "...and now Britain stood quite alone" and you see footage of ordinary folk just like us going to work, getting on buses, housewives shopping, postmen delivering mail, quietly, calmly and with a look of unconcern. That always gets me right here and makes me realise what was once great about this country...now largely lost I fear, although you do still see flashes of it from time to time!

Margaret Pilkington 05-11-2011 22:19

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945364)
You're right.

Not religious.

But eyes are the gateway to the soul, or whatever you want to call it.

Be it man, or beast.

No, not religious....well unless you count religion as being the ability to give the gift of kindness, to be able to empathise, to see suffering and want to make it better....because by making the suffering better, you make yourself better too.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:21

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945362)
memories of what once was and that will never be again. A little selfish I suppose but that's not only the nature of depression but also the fuel to it's fire.

Without getting (too) maudlin...I'm not even drunk!

:D

When something horrible happens, losing someone we love for instance.

The most recent memories are the first to go.

Because they're usually connected to how we lost that person.

Eventually all the memories which might be hard to live, with leave, and all we're left with are the warm, happy, and nourishing ones.

cashman 05-11-2011 22:23

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945374)
Without getting (too) maudlin...I'm not even drunk!

:D

When something horrible happens, losing someone we love for instance.

The most recent memories are the first to go.

Because they're usually connected to how we lost that person.

Eventually all the memories which might be hard to live, with leave, and all we're left with are the warm, happy, and nourishing ones.

Nail on head yon.;)

junetta 05-11-2011 22:24

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
I was just watching Rolf Harris on the Piers Morgan talk show and the recording of ´Two Little Boys´ came on.

Around forty years ago I was sitting with my future husband in Jean Daniel´s pub just off Plantation Street listening to the same record. Andy died almost thirty years ago but it felt like yesterday. I could break my heart.

mobertol 05-11-2011 22:25

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945374)
Without getting (too) maudlin...I'm not even drunk!

:D

When something horrible happens, losing someone we love for instance.

The most recent memories are the first to go.

Because they're usually connected to how we lost that person.

Eventually all the memories which might be hard to live, with leave, and all we're left with are the warm, happy, and nourishing ones.

That's true - and they are the ones to focus on along with the fun times -not the shadowy things.

jedimaster 05-11-2011 22:26

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
it's more the fact that i am still trying to come to terms with a disability which screwed up my job, led me into financial meltdown and damn near destroyed my life, and I just wish I could go back to when everything was fine and I was doing the job I loved (even though the job was the cause of the problem)

mobertol 05-11-2011 22:28

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945381)
it's more the fact that i am still trying to come to terms with a disability which screwed up my job, led me into financial meltdown and damn near destroyed my life, and I just wish I could go back to when everything was fine and I was doing the job I loved (even though the job was the cause of the problem)

Although I'm no expert, i think the secret lies in focusing on what you CAN do and not what you can't do any more. It will be a big shift but there may be some positives ..for example making new friends on accy web or finding new interests...

cashman 05-11-2011 22:29

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junetta (Post 945379)
I was just watching Rolf Harris on the Piers Morgan talk show and the recording of ´Two Little Boys´ came on.

Around forty years ago I was sitting with my future husband in Jean Daniel´s pub just off Plantation Street listening to the same record. Andy died almost thirty years ago but it felt like yesterday. I could break my heart.

That pub would be the Kings Arms on Lee St june,used to pop in back then.;)

Margaret Pilkington 05-11-2011 22:30

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945374)
Without getting (too) maudlin...I'm not even drunk!

:D

When something horrible happens, losing someone we love for instance.

The most recent memories are the first to go.

Because they're usually connected to how we lost that person.

Eventually all the memories which might be hard to live, with leave, and all we're left with are the warm, happy, and nourishing ones.

Someone put words to that effect in a card that was sent to me when my father died.....and I thought to myself 'huh! What do they know?'......but I have to say it is true.

For a while I couldn't talk about my dad without getting upset....and even now 20 years down the line, that still happens....but I can remember the good memories. I can talk about him. I often talk to him...though he never answers me back.....and the memories are warm and they do make me smile. Life has to be like this. We have to live in the 'now'....but the 'now' is affected by the past, and nothing can alter that.

Wynonie Harris 05-11-2011 22:32

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Watching Stanley in the league and knowing my old fella never lived to see it happen.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:34

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 945372)
No, not religious....well unless you count religion as being the ability to give the gift of kindness, to be able to empathise, to see suffering and want to make it better....because by making the suffering better, you make yourself better too.

I hate cruelty, and bullying.

As a child I was always a big bruiser. So it wasn't ever a physical problem, charging in, and stopping other kids being bullied. Even then I didn't give a fig, if it meant the majority, the gang mentality, would turn against me, and I would be ostracised from the group. Strangely it didn't. Probably being able to make people laugh, meant I was accepted, despite being 'different'.

I do get the ocasional pang of guilt today.

Wondering whether it's cruel, and bullying, to attack those who are cruel, or bullies.

:o

cashman 05-11-2011 22:34

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 945386)
Watching Stanley in the league and knowing my old fella never lived to see it happen.

yep same here as we both have said before wyn.;)

Margaret Pilkington 05-11-2011 22:35

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Steve he might not be watching it with you...but who is to say he isn't watching it?

cashman 05-11-2011 22:37

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945387)
I hate cruelty, and bullying.

As a child I was always a big bruiser. So it wasn't ever a physical problem, charging in, and stopping other kids being bullied. Even then I didn't give a fig, if it meant the majority, the gang mentality, would turn against me, and I would be ostracised from the group. Strangely it didn't. Probably being able to make people laugh, meant I was accepted, despite being 'different'.

I do get the ocasional pang of guilt today.

Wondering whether it's cruel, and bullying, to attack those who are cruel, or bullies.

:o

Not cruel as far as i'm concerned, if more had the bottle to do that,would be much less bullying in the world.;)

jedimaster 05-11-2011 22:38

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 945383)
Although I'm no expert, i think the secret lies in focusing on what you CAN do and not what you can't do any more. It will be a big shift but there may be some positives ..for example making new friends on accy web or finding new interests...

exactly what i've tried to do for the last 2 years but it don't pay the bills and it don't stop the debt collectors although i have been lucky enough to be a part of some wonderful voluntary projects along the way

Wynonie Harris 05-11-2011 22:39

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 945390)
Steve he might not be watching it with you...but who is to say he isn't watching it?

He might be, Margaret, sometimes as I walk across the terraces I feel eerily like I'm following in his footsteps.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:41

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 945386)
Watching Stanley in the league and knowing my old fella never lived to see it happen.

Understand.

Felt a similar feeling the year Blackburn won the Premiership, the year after my Dad died.

Remebering all those seasons we'd stood in the drizzle, watching 'em stuggle at the bottom of the old Third Division. Never imagining they'd ever be succesful again, and now he wasn't here to see it.

mobertol 05-11-2011 22:42

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
My youngest son got sent home on his first day from junior school with a note in his diary to say he'd thumped another boy on the nose and made it bleed. Turned out the boy was in top class and had been pushing another new-comer around! As Eddy had a brother that age and had always been a big boy (he was over 10 pounds as a newborn baby) he wasn't phased. Even the teacher told me it was fair enough ...the world is full of bullies...hug a hoodie if it will make you feel less guilty G!

Margaret Pilkington 05-11-2011 22:43

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 945394)
He might be, Margaret, sometimes as I walk across the terraces I feel eerily like I'm following in his footsteps.

Then you should feel comforted to know that.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:44

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 945371)
You know that bit in all the Second World War documentaries? After the fall of Dunkirk, but before the Battle of Britain, when the Nazis were just across the channel and it was regarded as a definite given that they would now invade and the rest of the world had written us off. This is the bit where the commentator says: "...and now Britain stood quite alone" and you see footage of ordinary folk just like us going to work, getting on buses, housewives shopping, postmen delivering mail, quietly, calmly and with a look of unconcern. That always gets me right here and makes me realise what was once great about this country...now largely lost I fear, although you do still see flashes of it from time to time!

Totally, one hundred perecent agree.

Makes me proud.

But also ashamed, at the very same time.

garinda 05-11-2011 22:51

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junetta (Post 945379)
I was just watching Rolf Harris on the Piers Morgan talk show and the recording of ´Two Little Boys´ came on.

Around forty years ago I was sitting with my future husband in Jean Daniel´s pub just off Plantation Street listening to the same record. Andy died almost thirty years ago but it felt like yesterday. I could break my heart.

Oh June.

Come here, let me reach over to Tenerife and give you a hug. x

I'm sat here skriking.

Just as I was when I started this thread.

Posting, watching the same programme you were. Remembering people we love still. Despite them not being in the room with us.

junetta 05-11-2011 23:04

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
It was Cashy. She was a lovely lady.

The years go by Rindy and voices fade but I felt really close to him tonight. Thanks for the hug xx

cashman 05-11-2011 23:07

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junetta (Post 945403)
It was Cashy. She was a lovely lady.

The years go by Rindy and voices fade but I felt really close to him tonight. Thanks for the hug xx

She was n Hubby Frank was a coal merchant,we used to get ours off him, his sons carried on wi the round in later days, think one of em runs Bold St Club now.:)

junetta 05-11-2011 23:11

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Jean was my mum´s best mate and I remember Frank too. Went to see him in hospital once. Memory lane yet again x

Taggy 05-11-2011 23:13

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Listening to how people describe my Dad!.......A Man i can never hope to be!..I love him & miss him so much!

Best Regards - Taggy

cashman 05-11-2011 23:14

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junetta (Post 945409)
Jean was my mum´s best mate and I remember Frank too. Went to see him in hospital once. Memory lane yet again x

June its a great thing memories of good people,summat to treasure.;)x

Taggy 05-11-2011 23:16

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 945407)
She was n Hubby Frank was a coal merchant,we used to get ours off him, his sons carried on wi the round in later days, think one of em runs Bold St Club now.:)

Didn't Frank have the Kings Arms in later years?....I think he lost both his legs eventually?..His lads are still around....a sound bloke was Frank!

Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 05-11-2011 23:20

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945381)
it's more the fact that i am still trying to come to terms with a disability which screwed up my job, led me into financial meltdown and damn near destroyed my life, and I just wish I could go back to when everything was fine and I was doing the job I loved (even though the job was the cause of the problem)

That's a toughy, my little mucker.

Somethings, not all, we just have to grin, bear, and just accept 'em.

I was lucky. I followed, found, and enjoyed living my dream for a good twenty years, before having to accept something that changed my life.

Accept what you HAVE to, and if that affects what you THOUGHT your dreams were...get some new, different, better dreams.

I hate, pious platitudes, but these words always make sense to me.

"Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
-- Saint Francis of Assisi

I've no answers, but if you ever need a brew and a natter, message me.

garinda 05-11-2011 23:25

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 945410)
Listening to how people describe my Dad!.......A Man i can never hope to be!..I love him & miss him so much!

Best Regards - Taggy

Bloody hell.

It does make you appreciate things

People sharing, what makes 'em tick, and who shaped the person they are today.

Even if I'm sat blubbin', whilst smiling.

:o

Taggy 05-11-2011 23:37

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945414)
Bloody hell.

It does make you appreciate things

People sharing, what makes 'em tick, and who shaped the person they are today.

Even if I'm sat blubbin', whilst smiling.

:o

Me too Gary!

My Dad would'nt want me to cry..........so perhaps these are defiant tears i'm parting with now then! He told me a week before he died that he would have liked to have been more like me!

There's never a moment passes that i wouldn't have loved to have been more like him!

Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 05-11-2011 23:45

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945413)
That's a toughy, my little mucker.

Somethings, not all, we just have to grin, bear, and just accept 'em.

I was lucky. I followed, found, and enjoyed living my dream for a good twenty years, before having to accept something that changed my life.

Accept what you HAVE to, and if that affects what you THOUGHT your dreams were...get some new, different, better dreams.

I hate, pious platitudes, but these words always make sense to me.

"Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
-- Saint Francis of Assisi

I've no answers, but if you ever need a brew and a natter, message me.

What I posted about finding new dreams, which you can follow, is true.

The son of an Ossy baker, liked, but always on the outside, 'cause there weren't many other fly, well-spoken, arty, quick-witted, little fairies in my class at Moor End Primary, escaped.

Escaped, and did everything he ever dreamed of, and quite a few things he never dreamed about, because it would have been too fantastical. For over two decades I was lucky, and had the most truly fabulous life. Posting only half of what I did, and who with, might sound like showing off, so I won't.

Being diagnosed with Parkinson's changed my life forever.

Hand on heart.

I have NEVER been as happy as I am now, and have been, for the last few years.

I have new dreams to follow now.

BERNADETTE 05-11-2011 23:51

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
So many, many things tug at my heartstrings G. I'm a big softy ay heart, believe it or not. I don't watch the news on a regular basis (it makes me angry or depressed) but viewing the images of the horrific motorway crash on todays news really got to me. How I feel for the bereaved families. Was also at the funeral service for the gentleman killed in that horrific accident in Rishton yesterday and can't get my head round how his family will cope with how he died. I know they will, it is part of what builds us and makes us the people we are but for anybody to loose a loved one in such a tragic way is beyond my comprehension.
I could go on but think I've said my bit for now, grab life with both hands each and every one of you. Make the most of every day, you never know what life is going to throw at you. Lovely thread G

Taggy 05-11-2011 23:57

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945395)
Understand.

Felt a similar feeling the year Blackburn won the Premiership, the year after my Dad died.

Remebering all those seasons we'd stood in the drizzle, watching 'em stuggle at the bottom of the old Third Division. Never imagining they'd ever be succesful again, and now he wasn't here to see it.

I had the pleasure of knowing Jack Walker, albeit briefly, all i'm going to say is that he changed my life for the better! (I don't mean Financially)

Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 05-11-2011 23:59

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 945416)
Me too Gary!

My Dad would'nt want me to cry..........so perhaps these are defiant tears i'm parting with now then! He told me a week before he died that he would have liked to have been more like me!

There's never a moment passes that i wouldn't have loved to have been more like him!

Best Regards - Taggy

I posted in the first post in this thread we aren't a gushy-gushy 'love ya loads babe' sort of a family.

We show love, much more than we vocalise it.

But we never let things go unsaid.

We all don't know what tomorrow brings.

What your Dad told you, he did so you had it forever. When he wouldn't be able to say it out loud to you again.

I'm honestly not religious or mystic, but I can still call on my Dad's love, and even use it somehow to get advice he would say to me, if he was here.

Usually that advice would be/is 'Hold your head up, be sure of yourself, then get on with it, work hard, and do your best'.

:D

cashman 06-11-2011 00:01

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 945412)
Didn't Frank have the Kings Arms in later years?....I think he lost both his legs eventually?..His lads are still around....a sound bloke was Frank!

Best Regards - Taggy

we was talking about the Kings mate.;) they had it when i was supping yon underage.;)

Taggy 06-11-2011 00:01

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945418)
What I posted about finding new dreams, which you can follow, is true.

The son of an Ossy baker, liked, but always on the outside, 'cause there weren't many other fly, well-spoken, arty, quick-witted, little fairies in my class at Moor End Primary, escaped.

Escaped, and did everything he ever dreamed of, and quite a few things he never dreamed about, because it would have been too fantastical. For over two decades I was lucky, and had the most truly fabulous life. Posting only half of what I did, and who with, might sound like showing off, so I won't.

Being diagnosed with Parkinson's changed my life forever.

Hand on heart.

I have NEVER been as happy as I am now, and have been, for the last few years.

I have new dreams to follow now.

Sometimes you don't always want to say much..but just convey a warm feeling of appreciation....it would be good if Accyweb could perhaps just introduce a "like" button for times like this!
Best Regards - Taggy

mez 06-11-2011 00:16

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
mine was today ..i was at a memorial service for young people who had passed away who had been treated in the young oncology unit of christys hospital, tributes that the families had written were being read out by the chaplin of christys ..we had a brief stop to think & yes wipe away the tears.. i closed my eyes & up popped our dan flying past on a skate board ..i looked upwards & and mummered with a smile ya monkey i felt a lot better after knowing he was there. i was also humbled to see just how many people were there & how many new friends we have made , we all said see ya next year same place same table am looking forward to that.

Bonnyboy 06-11-2011 00:19

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
I work on Accy Market and every week I see this really old couple, I say really old because I'm 50 and they seem far older than my parents, so they must be really old :)

Thing is...they are always hand in hand, not linking arms or such, just hand in hand. I feel soft saying it but it really is lovely to see. I always smile to myself as they pass by then I get a little emotional inside. Not sure if that qualifies as tugging at heart strings but it gets me every time I see them.

As an afterthought, she might be his weekly hooker...I do hope not :D

garinda 06-11-2011 00:20

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 945419)
So many, many things tug at my heartstrings G. I'm a big softy ay heart, believe it or not. I don't watch the news on a regular basis (it makes me angry or depressed) but viewing the images of the horrific motorway crash on todays news really got to me. How I feel for the bereaved families. Was also at the funeral service for the gentleman killed in that horrific accident in Rishton yesterday and can't get my head round how his family will cope with how he died. I know they will, it is part of what builds us and makes us the people we are but for anybody to loose a loved one in such a tragic way is beyond my comprehension.
I could go on but think I've said my bit for now, grab life with both hands each and every one of you. Make the most of every day, you never know what life is going to throw at you. Lovely thread G


I can't imagine anyone less able to put themselves in someone else's shoes, and empathise with what they're going through, in times of suffering than you Bernie.

Having to experience the truly horrible suffering we sometimes see those we love go through, does make us stronger. We have to be strong. They make us strong.

Before your time hun.

I had a friend who was suffering.

We argued like cat and dog in the threads...and laughed our heads off in private messages.

He never, ever moaned. He encouraged me to be strong, and never, ever to give in.

I miss him, and our late night chats. Thinking about what he told me still makes me strong, or smile, even laugh. I never see a bottle of Merlot without thinking about my mate.

If I'm wrong, and you're looking down reading this, Ianto.

Cheers my friend.

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garinda 06-11-2011 00:25

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 945426)
I work on Accy Market and every week I see this really old couple, I say really old because I'm 50 and they seem far older than my parents, so they must be really old :)

Thing is...they are always hand in hand, not linking arms or such, just hand in hand. I feel soft saying it but it really is lovely to see. I always smile to myself as they pass by then I get a little emotional inside. Not sure if that qualifies as tugging at heart strings but it gets me every time I see them.

As an afterthought, she might be his weekly hooker...I do hope not :D

Daft git.

:D

You're allowed to be soft for once, in here.

It is nice to see stuff like that.

There's no Use-by date on love, or romance.

BERNADETTE 06-11-2011 00:26

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945427)
I can't imagine anyone less able to put themselves in someone else's shoes, and empathise with what they're going through, in times of suffering than you Bernie.

Having to experience the truly horrible suffering we sometimes see those we love go through, does make us stronger. We have to be strong. They make us strong.

Before your time hun.

I had a friend who was suffering.

We argued like cat and dog in the threads...and laughed our heads off in private messages.

He never, ever moaned. He encouraged me to be strong, and never, ever to give in.

I miss him, and our late night chats. Thinking about what he told me still makes me strong, or smile, even laugh. I never see a bottle of Merlot without thinking about my mate.

If I'm wrong, and you're looking down reading this, Ianto.

Cheers my friend.

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What a lovely post G but now you've got me crying you sod. Bet he is having a laugh at us now hunxxx

BERNADETTE 06-11-2011 00:28

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mez (Post 945425)
mine was today ..i was at a memorial service for young people who had passed away who had been treated in the young oncology unit of christys hospital, tributes that the families had written were being read out by the chaplin of christys ..we had a brief stop to think & yes wipe away the tears.. i closed my eyes & up popped our dan flying past on a skate board ..i looked upwards & and mummered with a smile ya monkey i felt a lot better after knowing he was there. i was also humbled to see just how many people were there & how many new friends we have made , we all said see ya next year same place same table am looking forward to that.

Another lovely post, Dan is with you always Mezxxxx

BERNADETTE 06-11-2011 00:35

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
[quote] Bonnyboy As an afterthought, she might be his weekly hooker...I do hope not [unquote] Trust you lol

garinda 06-11-2011 00:36

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mez (Post 945425)
mine was today ..i was at a memorial service for young people who had passed away who had been treated in the young oncology unit of christys hospital, tributes that the families had written were being read out by the chaplin of christys ..we had a brief stop to think & yes wipe away the tears.. i closed my eyes & up popped our dan flying past on a skate board ..i looked upwards & and mummered with a smile ya monkey i felt a lot better after knowing he was there. i was also humbled to see just how many people were there & how many new friends we have made , we all said see ya next year same place same table am looking forward to that.

Oh Mez hun.

There's not a lot you can add to that.

It's so hard, when it's children.

Must have been very tough, though I'm glad you said it made you feel better, being there today.

One day, or a hundred years, doesn't really matter how long we're here.

It's how precious that time was, and how much love we inspired, not how long a time.

It's easy sometimes, being Mother Hen. Always worrying about, and doing, and seeing, to others' needs.

Make sure you save some of all that giving, for yourself hun. x

garinda 06-11-2011 00:44

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 945429)
What a lovely post G but now you've got me crying you sod. Bet he is having a laugh at us now hunxxx

For sure.

Laughing at the daft, soft sods.

His li'l mate from here, and his beloved wife, gettin' all teary-eyed.

He'd tell me off.

You, he'd forgive.

:):D:)

Margaret Pilkington 06-11-2011 08:36

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junetta (Post 945409)
Jean was my mum´s best mate and I remember Frank too. Went to see him in hospital once. Memory lane yet again x

Jean was in Rough Lee Maternity home having one of her sons when I was in there after the birth of my daughter.
Lovely lady.

Margaret Pilkington 06-11-2011 08:45

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
You see...it is true. Those who have passed, live on, as long as there is someone who holds them in their heart....as long as their is someone who remembers them, polishes and cherishes the memories.

G....you have said so many true and wise things.

Our lives change as friends and family pass...but think how much poorer our lives would have been without those people in it.
Change is scary........but fruit only grows on a branch that has the strength to support it.

garinda 06-11-2011 09:02

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 945453)
You see...it is true. Those who have passed, live on, as long as there is someone who holds them in their heart....as long as their is someone who remembers them, polishes and cherishes the memories.

G....you have said so many true and wise things.

Our lives change as friends and family pass...but think how much poorer our lives would have been without those people in it.
Change is scary........but fruit only grows on a branch that has the strength to support it.

Thanks.

I haven't really. I Just tried to put into words what I've learned in life...so far.

I did wake up this morning, thinking I'd probably written a load of guff on here last night.

Then I thought, who gives a stuff? It's good to share things with other people, and although it might produce a few tears, it's a much more productive thing to happen here, than all the sniping that happens in many other threads.

Please feel free, to keep sharing stuff that makes us who we are.

There's nowt wrong with the occasional lapse into being a soft ha'ppeth.

:D

jaysay 06-11-2011 09:23

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Hell what a thread, for Saturday night, myself, well can say I'm too sentimental, but there are things which do instantly give the old heart a tug. Whenever I hear Time In A Bottle, by Jim Croce, reminds me of when my mother died, the words or so poignant. Every Saturday when I see my eldest daughter, I remember the day she was born and me arriving in the delivery room within 5 minutes of her birth, seems like yesterday, the difference now is she's now 43:D and I also remember only a few moths ago giving her away when she got married, that day I really did have a tear in my eye.

Margaret Pilkington 06-11-2011 09:30

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
take from this what you may...sometimes things happen to change us forever, and at the time the change seems devastating....but even the bad things can have good outcomes.

The obstacle in Our Path
In ancient times, a King had a boulder placed on a
roadway.
Then he hid himself and watched to see if
anyone would remove the huge rock.
Some of the King's' wealthiest merchants and courtiers came by
And simply walked around it... Many loudly blamed the
King for not keeping the roads clear, but none did
anything about getting the stone out of the way.
Then a peasant came along carrying a load of
vegetables.
Upon approaching the boulder, the
peasant laid down his burden and tried to move the
stone to the side of the road. After much pushing
and straining, he finally succeeded. The
peasant picked up his load of vegetables, he noticed
a purse lying in the road where the boulder had
been.
The purse contained many gold coins and a note
from the King indicating that the gold was for the
person who removed the boulder from the roadway. The
peasant learned what many of us never understand!
Every obstacle presents an opportunity to improve
our situation, though at the time we may not realise it.

heth 06-11-2011 09:55

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Lovely thread Gary. :)

The thing that tugs at my heartstrings is all the stuff I have put my Mum & Dad through in my younger years.

I were no angel at all but they were always there for me. I know a lot of you will say that is what parents are there to do but you dont know what I put them through.

I look back now and part of me is glad that I went through what I did or else it wouldnt have made me the person I am today but the bigger part of me feels sad that I did things to hurt my closest.

jedimaster 06-11-2011 09:55

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945413)
That's a toughy, my little mucker.

Somethings, not all, we just have to grin, bear, and just accept 'em.

I was lucky. I followed, found, and enjoyed living my dream for a good twenty years, before having to accept something that changed my life.

Accept what you HAVE to, and if that affects what you THOUGHT your dreams were...get some new, different, better dreams.

I hate, pious platitudes, but these words always make sense to me.

"Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
-- Saint Francis of Assisi

I've no answers, but if you ever need a brew and a natter, message me.


there is a lot of sense there gary and believe me I do have new dreams and directions i amtrying to to go in, I'm just finding it damned hard to make them a reality. but nil desperandum as they say. Just got to get used to having good days and bad days as i'm sure you have had to.

garinda 06-11-2011 09:58

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 945459)
Hell what a thread, for Saturday night, myself, well can say I'm too sentimental, but there are things which do instantly give the old heart a tug. Whenever I hear Time In A Bottle, by Jim Croce, reminds me of when my mother died, the words or so poignant. Every Saturday when I see my eldest daughter, I remember the day she was born and me arriving in the delivery room within 5 minutes of her birth, seems like yesterday, the difference now is she's now 43:D and I also remember only a few moths ago giving her away when she got married, that day I really did have a tear in my eye.

Pretend to be a hard man. Pah!

Heart of gold under all that bluff.

Because of this thread, I received a message last night, from someone who recently visited you.

It made me ashamed that someone could travel hundreds of miles, and I'm too lazy to make much less of an effort.

If you want to, and you're up to it it, I'd love to come and finally meet you face to face after all this time, and have that brew sometime in this coming week.

Just let me know when's good...if you're not too afraid.

:D

garinda 06-11-2011 10:04

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945474)
there is a lot of sense there gary and believe me I do have new dreams and directions i amtrying to to go in, I'm just finding it damned hard to make them a reality. but nil desperandum as they say. Just got to get used to having good days and bad days as i'm sure you have had to.

If something's realistically achievable, never give up on it. If it's what you truly want.

As I said, I've no answers, but if you ever need an ear to bend, just ask. If I'm well, you're welcome to mine, and I mean that.

Sometimes talking, to someone unconnected to what's happening in your life, can ease what might be a burden. I've certainly done it, many times.

Margaret Pilkington 06-11-2011 10:10

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
This tugs mine........and doesn't it put our own difficulties into perspective?

Emmanuel Kelly The X Factor 2011 Auditions Emmanuel Kelly FULL - YouTube

jedimaster 06-11-2011 10:12

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945479)
If something's realistically achievable, never give up on it. If it's what you truly want.

As I said, I've no answers, but if you ever need an ear to bend, just ask. If I'm well, you're welcome to mine, and I mean that.

Sometimes talking, to someone unconnected to what's happening in your life, can ease what might be a burden. I've certainly done it, many times.


thankyou gary for your really kind offer, once i'm settled in the new house i'll definately do that. (now YOU are pulling at the heartstrings - simple kindness to fellow humans is a wonderful and highly underrated power)

garinda 06-11-2011 10:13

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945474)
there is a lot of sense there gary and believe me I do have new dreams and directions i amtrying to to go in, I'm just finding it damned hard to make them a reality. but nil desperandum as they say. Just got to get used to having good days and bad days as i'm sure you have had to.

Hell, I bet it seems as if I'm some wise old sage, or attempting to be.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm a fool, and my own worst enemy.

It is hard, never being able to plan things, Never knowing if it will be a good day, or not.

Try to appreciate, and make the most of the days you're able.

What I'm trying to accept is that I do give in.

I say no to doing things, because in the past I've always given 100% to whatever I've done, and now I can't.

I should accept this fact, and accept that if peope want me to do things, they already know I'll do what I can, even if it's not as much as I'd like to, or would have done in the past.

garinda 06-11-2011 10:19

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945482)
thankyou gary for your really kind offer, once i'm settled in the new house i'll definately do that. (now YOU are pulling at the heartstrings - simple kindness to fellow humans is a wonderful and highly underrated power)

Ah, shut it.

You'd do the same for me.

It'll make amends for taking the rip out of your belt once, at one of the Accy Web meets.

:D

jedimaster 06-11-2011 10:21

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
funny that i've never been to an accyweb meet lol.

garinda 06-11-2011 10:30

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heth (Post 945473)
Lovely thread Gary. :)

The thing that tugs at my heartstrings is all the stuff I have put my Mum & Dad through in my younger years.

I were no angel at all but they were always there for me. I know a lot of you will say that is what parents are there to do but you dont know what I put them through.

I look back now and part of me is glad that I went through what I did or else it wouldnt have made me the person I am today but the bigger part of me feels sad that I did things to hurt my closest.

That is what parents are for, you're right. To raise us, through the good, and the bad times. Though it's still lucky for us if they can do that for us.

Some can't, because sadly they aren't able to be there, to do it. Either emotionally, or physically.

Doesn't mean their love is any less for their child though.

jaysay 06-11-2011 10:31

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945477)
Pretend to be a hard man. Pah!

Heart of gold under all that bluff.

Because of this thread, I received a message last night, from someone who recently visited you.

It made me ashamed that someone could travel hundreds of miles, and I'm too lazy to make much less of an effort.

If you want to, and you're up to it it, I'd love to come and finally meet you face to face after all this time, and have that brew sometime in this coming week.

Just let me know when is good...if you're not too afraid.

:D

:DAny time except Wednesday before 2pm as I'm going to hospital for an oxygen MOT, in the morning:D Afraid, how could I be afraid of a rottweiler:D

garinda 06-11-2011 10:36

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 945490)
:DAny time except Wednesday before 2pm as I'm going to hospital for an oxygen MOT, in the morning:D

Noted, thanks.

I'll call you first, before I pitch up.

So you've got time to hide the family silver.


:D

garinda 06-11-2011 10:40

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 945486)
funny that i've never been to an accyweb meet lol.


I really do need to make amends then.

God knows who got their white disco belt made fun of then.

:rolleyes::eek::D

Neil 06-11-2011 11:48

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945341)
Was going to title this thread 'What melts your heart?'


Rhonda would say our puppy Coco melts my heart when she gives me this look - its not true, those Beagle eyes don't work on me :rolleyes:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1320583708

jaysay 06-11-2011 11:51

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 945513)
Rhonda would say our puppy Coco melts my heart when she gives me this look - its not true, those Beagle eyes don't work on me :rolleyes:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1320583708

what do the ears do though, Neil :D

jaysay 06-11-2011 11:53

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 945491)
Noted, thanks.

I'll call you first, before I pitch up.

So you've got time to hide the family silver.


:D

Don't need to bother its permanently hidden these, in the pawn shop:D

Neil 06-11-2011 11:53

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 945515)
what do the ears do though, Neil :D

With the size of them I would guess they keep her face warm :p

Tealeaf 06-11-2011 12:07

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
What tugs at my heartstrings?

A pint of bitter at £3.60p, thats what.

jaysay 06-11-2011 12:20

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 945522)
What tugs at my heartstrings?

A pint of bitter at £3.60p, thats what.

Thought that would have been more like an arrow through your heart never mind tugging at it T:D

davemac 06-11-2011 13:00

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
What a contrast from all the fighting talk on other threads, this thread is a very welcome change.
Certain smells take me back to springhill school (a mixture of potato pie, disinfectant and musty books).
When I play patience the card game, I can hear my grandmas voice(imaginary, I dont hear voices) telling me which card to move, as she taught me to play as a nipper.

DaveinGermany 06-11-2011 15:37

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Many things to numerous to mention, but that is what makes us what we are. If we never have an emotive response to situations we would cease to be Human & all that entails. We need pain & sorrow for us to appreciate joy & love in whatever forms they take, this seeming conundrum, this dichotomy is all part of our Human condition it's not something we can take or leave it's a part of our existence & despite what we at times may feel we are hopefully the better for it.

cashman 06-11-2011 16:43

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 945515)
what do the ears do though, Neil :D

the ears are very good fer stopping the crust from sinking,when yeh make a pie wi it,:D

mobertol 12-11-2011 22:26

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Thought i'd resurrect this thread as it was probably one of the best posted on here in a long time...

When i arrived in Oxford in Oct. 1985 as a Graduate student -one of the first evenings we were invited by one of the second years for a drink and a " get to know each other" chat. We were a mixed bunch from all over the world. We got into a discussion and i remember my room "neighbour" a white South African called Bronek Masojada ended up defending his country as everyone railed against Apartheid -breaking down at the time -he was a progressive and against apartheid totally but in a situation where everyone was talking against his home country he felt duty bound to defend it -even though it went against his principles...he told me later that he had felt personally affected by the comments.

I have lived in Europe for half my life - and when I see you all attacking it, it makes me feel exactly the same way even though i feel that i am nothing but British at heart. I will stop here as i can't get any more words out at the moment...may pick up the thread later....sorry.

cashman 12-11-2011 22:28

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Nowt wrong wi the people of europe, its the wasters that run the E.U. everyones attacking,

garinda 12-11-2011 22:37

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
The little smile on my much loved young relative's face, that he couldn't help but do.

When I made him laugh, by being rude.

After I'd earlier told him off too sharply, and upset him.

mobertol 12-11-2011 22:40

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Have got a grip (hopefully) - there are many bad things going on in Europe at the moment which are out of our control seemingly - but to imagine that changing one set of elected politicians for another will make a significant and immediate difference is a fallacy.

So the UK has been denied a referendum -Ireland's was refused as the aswer it gave was not the required one, Greece pretended it wanted one to shake up the status quo there.. Italy's somewhat dubious leader has been ousted - not internally- but in order to satisfy the requirements of the leaders of Germany and France so that the Eurozone may be again sustained....Where will this all end -who knows.

Let us not be spooked into extreme actions that may be regretted in the long run and remember that some of what Europe represents is in the common good ie the original idea of a common market - while the Labour Party is apparently against immediate change in it's pro-European stance- by putting pressure on your Labour MP and pressing for reasoned change your voice will eventually have a hearing. The economic markets also need a degree of consumer faith in order to calm down and for some sort of stability to be re-asserted. Panic is not the answer...

garinda 12-11-2011 22:43

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 947282)
Thought i'd resurrect this thread as it was probably one of the best posted on here in a long time...

When i arrived in Oxford in Oct. 1985 as a Graduate student -one of the first evenings we were invited by one of the second years for a drink and a " get to know each other" chat. We were a mixed bunch from all over the world. We got into a discussion and i remember my room "neighbour" a white South African called Bronek Masojada ended up defending his country as everyone railed against Apartheid -breaking down at the time -he was a progressive and against apartheid totally but in a situation where everyone was talking against his home country he felt duty bound to defend it -even though it went against his principles...he told me later that he had felt personally affected by the comments.

I have lived in Europe for half my life - and when I see you all attacking it, it makes me feel exactly the same way even though i feel that i am nothing but British at heart. I will stop here as i can't get any more words out at the moment...may pick up the thread later....sorry.

Excuse me, Maudlin Saturday's been cancelled.

Come back for longer than a week's visit next time.

The rose tinted vision, caused by being far from where your roots will always be, will soon be cured, and you'll soon be cussing, and moaning with the rest of us, like the good Lancashire lass you really are.

;):D

Taggy 12-11-2011 22:43

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 947282)
Thought i'd resurrect this thread as it was probably one of the best posted on here in a long time...

When i arrived in Oxford in Oct. 1985 as a Graduate student -one of the first evenings we were invited by one of the second years for a drink and a " get to know each other" chat. We were a mixed bunch from all over the world. We got into a discussion and i remember my room "neighbour" a white South African called Bronek Masojada ended up defending his country as everyone railed against Apartheid -breaking down at the time -he was a progressive and against apartheid totally but in a situation where everyone was talking against his home country he felt duty bound to defend it -even though it went against his principles...he told me later that he had felt personally affected by the comments.

I have lived in Europe for half my life - and when I see you all attacking it, it makes me feel exactly the same way even though i feel that i am nothing but British at heart. I will stop here as i can't get any more words out at the moment...may pick up the thread later....sorry.

I know what you mean & feel..but Race, religon & Colour ...it matters not on here....basically we just like nice people!. I've probably said more about myself than i should have previously..but so what, this is a great thread that Gary has started..and shows what proper forums should be about!..Its not all shops n politics!

PS.....I don't really think anyone is anti-europe....we are (some of us) just pro - british..it's not the same thing!..Take Care.

Best Regards - Taggy

mobertol 12-11-2011 22:44

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Back on thread-what really tugs at my heartstrings is being here and not there:o:D

mobertol 12-11-2011 22:47

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 947288)
I know what you mean & feel..but Race, religon & Colour ...it matters not on here....basically we just like nice people!. I've probably said more about myself than i should have previously..but so what, this is a great thread that Gary has started..and shows what proper forums should be about!..Its not all shops n politics!

PS.....I don't really think anyone is anti-europe....we are (some of us) just pro - british..it's not the same thing!..Take Care.

Best Regards - Taggy

Thank you for your kind words- appreciated!:)

cashman 12-11-2011 22:50

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 947285)
Have got a grip (hopefully) - there are many bad things going on in Europe at the moment which are out of our control seemingly - but to imagine that changing one set of elected politicians for another will make a significant and immediate difference is a fallacy.

So the UK has been denied a referendum -Ireland's was refused as the aswer it gave was not the required one, Greece pretended it wanted one to shake up the status quo there.. Italy's somewhat dubious leader has been ousted - not internally- but in order to satisfy the requirements of the leaders of Germany and France so that the Eurozone may be again sustained....Where will this all end -who knows.

Let us not be spooked into extreme actions that may be regretted in the long run and remember that some of what Europe represents is in the common good ie the original idea of a common market - while the Labour Party is apparently against immediate change in it's pro-European stance- by putting pressure on your Labour MP and pressing for reasoned change your voice will eventually have a hearing. The economic markets also need a degree of consumer faith in order to calm down and for some sort of stability to be re-asserted. Panic is not the answer...

Dont think fer a min,its panic, this has been building steadily up fer quite a few years, in britain anyway, yeh can only push people so far n do nowt,;)

mobertol 12-11-2011 22:52

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947287)
Excuse me, Maudlin Saturday's been cancelled.

Come back for longer than a week's visit next time.

The rose tinted vision, caused by being far from where your roots will always be, will soon be cured, and you'll soon be cussing, and moaning with the rest of us, like the good Lancashire lass you really are.

;):D

Wanted to change my status to "Rose-tinted glow member" but can't do it yet...

Will be over for longer next time - so watch out you Accy webbers...!

I never Cuss -Garinda -we Paddock House girls are far too well-bred.

Lancashire lass-definitely -"Good" is up for discussion.

Whinge hopefully over for now -virtual hugs accepted from all those available to send them;):)

garinda 12-11-2011 22:55

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
It's the ability to have a little moan, that makes us so friendly.

Stand in any bus stop, or sit on a bench...if you can find one (:D), for more than two minutes, and someone will start to chat with you.

'Fine, but a bit nippy now though, isn't it?'

'Soon be here, Christmas. All that money being spent, we can't afford.'

'Look at that, never used to be like that, did it?'

It's what we do.

Moaning's just a way of making new friends.

:D

cashman 12-11-2011 22:57

Re: What tugs at your heartstrings?
 
Hey i,m a great fan of europeans having lived yon meself,on a couple of occasions in different countries, but seems to me the "Club" is unworkable fer many reasons,


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