Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951210)

this "suggests" that we should sit back and do nothing,

'if the government,the police n magistrates don't do a proper job, its unreasonable to me to expect people to do so'

i merely asked you if that is what you meant

shhould we sit back and do nothing and let hbc and the alcies and druggies walk all over this town or do we take the 'donkey by the ass' and reclaim what belongs to our fellow residents

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951214)

change is never easy and some may say my views lean somewhat on a revolutionary bias but i truly believe that this town has great potential and that it should be harnessed for the benefit of it's residents and if hbc and the idiots that be won't do it then it's down to the people to make it happen. the greatest changes in this country have always been led by it's people and the power that lies within us. 'the times they are a'changin' and its people power that will drive it forward!

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951204)

no i simply speak my mind and i'm not afraid to do so i also take what people say at face value.

and i also stand up for what i believe is right if however i am proved to be wrong i will hold my hand up and admit it.


anyway back to the christmas market idea,

how much would it cost to commission the manufacture some chalets and would it not be presumptious to say that this cost would be recouped in the rental of these said chalets to the traders.


you have a year to research and organise this event so instead of saying it can't be done, use your noggin and prove to hbc it CAN

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 951227)

Was watching an item on the news the other day about a German Market, can't remember where it was now, but I do know that the local traders were less than happy because some of their businesses had declined by 50%, the bottom line is people have only x number of pounds to send, if fancy markets were introduced it means that the pies no bigger just that more people want a slice.

Just as an afterthought, no input what so-ever from any of our elected members, funny that really;)

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 951240)

It was the German Christmas market in Birmingham, which featured on the BBC news programmes.

All the local traders, the ones who pay their business rates all year round, agreed it increased footfall to the city centre, but they stated that in fact their takings were down, whilst the market was on.

There's only so much money to go round, no matter how many people there are flogging their goods.

Local traders in towns/cities which had German markets, waved off what would have ended in their tills, as the Teutonic juggernauts, complete with their chalets, headed off back to Baden-Baden, or wherever it was they came from.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 951248)

Well whereas it might be great for the Public to have the choice of a different type of market it shouldn't be at the expense of the trades already established in the area, of course the council spokesman waved the concerns away (its not near an election) saying it was great for the area, well not if your trying to make a living it ain't

Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951261)

the chalets were a single idea

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 951268)

That's good Heidi.

You seemed quite fixated on Alpine chalets, when you were posting last night.

;)

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 951286)

There is no reason why the current Market stalls could not be used for such a venture......at a nominal cost seeing as money would be saved by not having fireworks.