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lancsdave 23-11-2011 21:23
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951170)
i believe we will as although i do not have the actual statistics to hand i think it would be a pretty sure bet that the MAJORITY of accrington's residents aren't

'residents who spend their money on alchohol and get too much support for the stuff they shove up their noses or inject in to their blood stream.'
I'm sure you're right but nobody mentioned the majority do that :confused:

jedimaster 23-11-2011 21:25
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I'm sure you're right but nobody mentioned the majority do that :confused:

so you base your business's success or failure on a minority of the population then?

doesn't seem good business sense to me

cashman 23-11-2011 21:27
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951179)
so you base your business's success or failure on a minority of the population then?

doesn't seem good business sense to me
Think yer losing the plot on this un jedi.

jedimaster 23-11-2011 21:30
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951180)
Think yer losing the plot on this un jedi.

don't think so cashy. i quote 'The problem with having a retail business in Accrington is that the town is becoming a magnet for residents who spend their money on alchohol and get too much support for the stuff they shove up their noses or inject in to their blood stream.

One of the main solutions to the problem doesn't lie with the retailers, it lies with the landlords who rent out houses on an ever increasing basis to people who do the town and it's prosperity severe damage'

garinda 23-11-2011 21:39
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...the landlords who rent out houses on an ever increasing basis to people who do the town and it's prosperity severe damage'
Perhaps there was no room at the inn.

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lancsdave 23-11-2011 21:44
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951179)
so you base your business's success or failure on a minority of the population then?

doesn't seem good business sense to me

It wouldn't make good sense to me, but I don't. Doesn't mean you don't take notice of what happens around you though.

jedimaster 23-11-2011 22:01
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 951191)
It wouldn't make good sense to me, but I don't. Doesn't mean you don't take notice of what happens around you though.

not sure what your argument is then :confused:

you blame the decline of business and trade on the fact that there are too many of accrington's poulation are either alcoholics and drug addicts rayher than a mixture of a decline in employment and the current economic climate resulting in a decline in the amount of each household's disposable income and the fact that people are using supermarkets and large chain businesses as opposed to their local small retailer, yet you don't base your own business's profitability on the same principle.

this is very confusing.

lancsdave 23-11-2011 22:12
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951193)
not sure what your argument is then :confused:

you blame the decline of business and trade on the fact that there are too many of accrington's poulation are either alcoholics and drug addicts rayher than a mixture of a decline in employment and the current economic climate resulting in a decline in the amount of each household's disposable income and the fact that people are using supermarkets and large chain businesses as opposed to their local small retailer, yet you don't base your own business's profitability on the same principle.

this is very confusing.

Having read back I wrote
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The problem with having a retail business in Accrington i
I should have said ONE of the problems. I will repeat that I didn't say too many of Accringtons population are alcoholics or drug addicts, I said it's an increasing number. I'll clarify that by saying it's becoming more noticeable in the town centre before you ask me for the facts :)

I'm merely stating one of the reasons people don't feel comfortable shopping in the town centre. If I'm wrong then the benches would still be outside the Market Hall would they not ? After all they moved them because of the problems with drunks

jedimaster 23-11-2011 22:21
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 951195)
Having read back I wrote


I should have said ONE of the problems. I will repeat that I didn't say too many of Accringtons population are alcoholics or drug addicts, I said it's an increasing number. I'll clarify that by saying it's becoming more noticeable in the town centre before you ask me for the facts :)

I'm merely stating one of the reasons people don't feel comfortable shopping in the town centre. If I'm wrong then the benches would still be outside the Market Hall would they not ? After all they moved them because of the problems with drunks

in fairness that does make more sense, i wasn't having a personal dig at you but the way it was worded implied that was what you meant. i agree that the presence of that element is offputting to some residents ie. elderly and vulnerable people and is an issue that needs to be addressed properly. but it should not stop us from striving to bring traditional shopping back to our town, we the people of accrington should be taking back the ownership of our town and make it something to be proud of

cashman 23-11-2011 22:27
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951197)
in fairness that does make more sense, i wasn't having a personal dig at you but the way it was worded implied that was what you meant. i agree that the presence of that element is offputting to some residents ie. elderly and vulnerable people and is an issue that needs to be addressed properly. but it should not stop us from striving to bring traditional shopping back to our town, we the people of accrington should be taking back the ownership of our town and make it something to be proud of
I agree wi that,but its very hard to take back ownership of owt these days, if the government,the police n magistrates don't do a proper job, its unreasonable to me to expect people to do so, when its blatantly obvious to all yeh get no backing.

jedimaster 23-11-2011 22:29
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951198)
I agree wi that,but its very hard to take back ownership of owt these days, if the government,the police n magistrates don't do a proper job, its unreasonable to me to expect people to do so, when its blatantly obvious to all yeh get no backing.

so we should just sit back and do nothing?

that seems to be a very 'it's not my job' attitude

cashman 23-11-2011 22:32
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951199)
so we should just sit back and do nothing?

that seems to be a very 'it's not my job' attitude
No- seems owt yeh dont like, yeh imply about others, very poor to me.

jedimaster 23-11-2011 22:45
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 951202)
No- seems owt yeh dont like, yeh imply about others, very poor to me.

no i simply speak my mind and i'm not afraid to do so i also take what people say at face value.

and i also stand up for what i believe is right if however i am proved to be wrong i will hold my hand up and admit it.


anyway back to the christmas market idea,

how much would it cost to commission the manufacture some chalets and would it not be presumptious to say that this cost would be recouped in the rental of these said chalets to the traders.


you have a year to research and organise this event so instead of saying it can't be done, use your noggin and prove to hbc it CAN

jedimaster 23-11-2011 22:46
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and, the only implication i make is that what you post is what you mean!

cashman 23-11-2011 22:47
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 951205)
and, the only implication i make is that what you post is what you mean!
Like i did wi you.


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