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Neil 31-03-2012 12:38

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981447)
I don't think they can - if the TV licence people could I think there'd be an outcry by civil liberties groups!

I don't think Wrighty has anything to worry about!

I think they could if they wanted to.

For an example look that the guy on twitter arrested for the comments he made about Fabrice Muamba.

jaysay 31-03-2012 13:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 981455)
Well i do, Rule1 of any fiddle- Keep yer big gob shut.:rolleyes:

Or as good old bill shakespeare said, better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your an idiot than opening it, taking away any reasonable doubt:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 31-03-2012 15:10

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For your literature answer, 0 points. The comment I am led to believe was apparently accredited to Mark Twain. :)

jaysay 31-03-2012 16:27

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 981505)
For your literature answer, 0 points. The comment I am led to believe was apparently accredited to Mark Twain. :)

You could well be right, but still hits the mark;), I sometimes get mixed up with Mark and Bill, but they both hit the nail on the head on numerous occasions and the quote is very apt no matter who coined it:rolleyes:

kestrelx 31-03-2012 19:36

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 981479)
I think they could if they wanted to.

For an example look that the guy on twitter arrested for the comments he made about Fabrice Muamba.

If you put your name and address and blatantly said "I refuse to pay my TV licence!" I don't think they will track you off a nick name!

kestrelx 31-03-2012 19:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981496)
Or as good old bill shakespeare said, better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your an idiot than opening it, taking away any reasonable doubt:rolleyes:

In that case you wouldn't post Jaysay! :alright:

You call me an idiot but how many threads you started have got over 20,000 views???

A wise man said, " Rather than try and understand why some one is different, it is easier to call them an idiot when you don't understand them!"

Margaret Pilkington 31-03-2012 20:02

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How do you define 'wise'? Is it someone who shares similar views?

Margaret Pilkington 31-03-2012 20:04

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981576)
If you put your name and address and blatantly said "I refuse to pay my TV licence!" I don't think they will track you off a nick name!

I think that if someone in authority really wanted to find out who was behind the nickname they would find out....and probably without too much trouble/effort.

Neil 01-04-2012 08:41

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 981584)
I think that if someone in authority really wanted to find out who was behind the nickname they would find out....and probably without too much trouble/effort.

If you search the internet you will find that the police need a court order to obtain the IP address of a forum/twitter/facebook/etc poster.
The police then request details about who used that IP address at that time/date from the ISP. They may not even need a court order to get the details from the ISP. Depending on the offence this could be enough evidence for a search warrant and seizure of the offending persons PC/phone equipment for forensic investigation.

Margaret Pilkington 01-04-2012 08:51

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Yes Neil, it isn't a great hassle for the police to do this if they feel that the law has been broken.....and we have recently seen evidence of this with the Liam Stacey/ Fabrice Muamba situation.....and there is another one reported in the newspaper today....Noel Edmonds tracked down a Student who had started a facebook page which incited violence against him(Noel Edmonds).
It just doesn't do to suggest to others who are abiding by the law of the land, to break that law.
Wrighty was telling us he didn't have a TV licence, and saying that anyone who had, was 'stupid'.......so he is inciting the breaking of the law.

jaysay 01-04-2012 09:18

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981577)
In that case you wouldn't post Jaysay! :alright:

You call me an idiot but how many threads you started have got over 20,000 views???

A wise man said, " Rather than try and understand why some one is different, it is easier to call them an idiot when you don't understand them!"

Who wants to understand a clown with anti social ideas like you, supporting the use of illegal substances, your a joke, 20,000 hits 20,000 people laughing at you dim wit

kestrelx 02-04-2012 09:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981645)
Who wants to understand a clown with anti social ideas like you, supporting the use of illegal substances, your a joke, 20,000 hits 20,000 people laughing at you dim wit

ha! ha! ha! ... See showing your ignorance mate - there are several people who did not slag me off like you, Less, Garinda and Cashman did - people who agreed with me and who were intimidated by Garinda and others. Tommiasfc also used the word "Accrington Mafia!" so it seems there are bunch of people like you who jump on every thread and intimidate people with different views!

Today the Independant...

Police and MI5 to get power to watch you on the Web!

Police and MI5 get power to watch you on the web - Home News - UK - The Independent

:hidewall:

jaysay 02-04-2012 09:35

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981904)
ha! ha! ha! ... See showing your ignorance mate - there are several people who did not slag me off like you, Less, Garinda and Cashman did - people who agreed with me and who were intimidated by Garinda and others. Tommiasfc also used the word "Accrington Mafia!" so it seems there are bunch of people like you who jump on every thread and intimidate people with different views!

Today the Independant...

Police and MI5 to get power to watch you on the Web!

Police and MI5 get power to watch you on the web - Home News - UK - The Independent

:hidewall:

No your totally wrong, we jump on people who have utter stupid ideas, which insidentally fits you to a tee, there's an old saying if you can't stand the heat keep out the kitchen, might be good advice for you, and I don't need a wall to hide behind

kestrelx 02-04-2012 09:45

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981907)
No your totally wrong, we jump on people who have utter stupid ideas, which insidentally fits you to a tee, there's an old saying if you can't stand the heat keep out the kitchen, might be good advice for you, and I don't need a wall to hide behind

Rubbish - in the old days before the internet people would not speak to people like they do here and on the Internet, in pubs there would have been a lot more fights. The thing with the Internet is people can say what they want with no instant comeback, so people like Garinda can be vindictive and get a way with it - they would not do that in a pub or club!

You say "We" yes that is you and the people who agree with you who you have probably met in the pub over the years and have some agreement. The majority are not always right in numbers! ALSO YOU DON'T LISTEN TO OPPOSITE ARGUMENTS!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ni...w=1291&bih=642

Nick Ferrari response to Government Spy issue, 5 mins ago on This Morning: "It's unacceptable - be afraid, be very afraid!"

jaysay 02-04-2012 09:51

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981910)
Rubbish - in the old days before they internet people would not speak to people like they do on the Internet, in pubs there would have been a lot more fights. The thing with the Internet is people can say what they want with no comeback - they would not do that in a pub or club!

You say "We" yes that is you and the people who agree with you who you have probably met in the pub over the years and have some agreement.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ni...w=1291&bih=642

Nick Ferrari response to Government Spy issue, 5 mins ago on This Morning: "It's unacceptable - be afraid be very afraid!"

I'm more affraid of dipsticks like you, spreading your peace and love bother past the splif attitude, now that's what really scares me


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