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We are heading for the George Orwell - 1984 society ... :eek:

"Details about text messages, phone calls, emails and every website visited by members of the public will be kept on record in a bid to combat terrorism.
The Government will order broadband providers, landline and mobile phone companies to save the information for up to a year under a new security scheme.
What is said in the texts, emails or phone calls will not be kept but information on the senders, recipients and their geographical whereabouts will be saved.
Direct messages to users of social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter will also be saved and so will information exchanged between players in online video games.
The information will be stored by individual companies rather than the government.
The news has sparked huge concerns about the risk of hacking and fears that the sensitive information could be used to send spam emails and texts."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103314/Government-spy-programme-monitor-phone-text-email.html#ixzz1mvMitXPD

Funny how before the 2010 election the Tories and the Lib Dems were selling us the spin they were going to cancel these measures which were being put in by New Labour! Now the turn coat hypocrites are doing exactly the same thing!

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mandelson was trying to push something similar through when labour were in power.I think it was called the Media Bill which seemed to be on teh face of it to combat piracey and terrorism but when looked at closer gave government the power to read your private emails etc

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Yes and the Tories were saying they wouldn't do it before the election now they are doing the same thing! Even though MP David Davies claims to be against it!

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Why am I not surprised ?

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well its quite often you will find an MP say they do or think one thing only to do the exact opposite

look at our local MP for example

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This is my local MP! ;)

Kate Hoey is bonkers! - YouTube

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Damn! I knew I shouldn't have replied to those Swedish emails.

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if yer aint doing owt wrong, you've nowt to be bothered about, we're kept tabs on already with Echelon -you mention certain words in phone calls, internet etc & it apparantly triggers the alarm bells.

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and it has took you to now to realise this?
we are all caught on CCTV when ever we go out, our cars have ANPR cameras looking at them, if you use your credit/debit card you are traceable as are all your bank transactions. Cellphones note your whereabouts and even Tesco are at it with their clubcard.
If you really believe that your emails/phone calls/texts have not been intercepted and monitored by now, you must be very naive.
However if you think of the sheer number of telephone calls, texts and the vast number of emails made per day then you would realise that storing them all, let alone filtering though and reading/listening to them would be a near impossible task. Still it gives the Daily Mail something to write about.

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Couldn't have put it better myself, BG.

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Spot on BG, if I'd have put a link on from the Mail I'd have got some real pain, seems its okay for anybody else to do so, as we've seen over the last few years intercepting texts and emails is easy, when you have people who can hack into the pentagon from a back bedroom, nothings impossible, mind you if your doing nout wrong you've nout to bother about, people who usually shout have something to hide

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Two words - Menwith Hill.

It's been going on since the telephone was invented and probably when they had the telegraph as well.

Oh ye of little brain, let's sort out a few facts:-

We can't be heading for 1984, this, is 2012, (even using your mind bending tools we can't go back in time).

1984 AND George Orwell are fictional,

When the guy put his idea to his publisher's, he called it 1948, they didn't like it being so close to their future, therefore a name change. (guess what to?).

His name well, if you can't google it why should I tell you?

Try reading some of his other books, he was actually a man that lived what he wrote about, so much so, he contracted and died from T.B., (a disease of the real world, not your brain rotting synthetics).

Now, please, don't ever use any of his material in any of your trash posts ever again!

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Yeah have little brain pal! I can't even be bothered talking to you about it! You have little brain! I used the reference to Orwell as a rough comparison! FACT IS THE GOVERNMENT WILL BE ALLOWING SOME "SECURITY OFFICER" TO KEEP YOUR E--MAILS AND ELECTRONIC MEDIA! Not that yours is worth looking at! :hehetable
30 years ago if I told you the Post Office were opening your letters and photo copying the contents people would be outraged! Now people seem to take this issue for granted - all in the name of stopping those nasty little bogey men! :D sneaky little terrorists!

A bit of Newspeak for you - just a bit of Friendly fire! Don't worry...

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Well if it puts a stop to you it will be a result:p

Firstly, I'm not your pal.

Secondly you just did bother.

Very rough, very inaccurate down to your usual standards.


Obviously you took the time to look, (more than I would do), it's slightly more intersting than you, it's called spam.


Nothing newspeak about it, nor do I find you friendly, however I am fascinated with the idea that you can manage to feed yourself and wipe your own arse, no doubt at the same time though, still, an improvement since you've been taking the drugs, before that it must have been a struggle.

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Doubleplusgood post Less.
Now that is newspeak!

unfortunately your comments were Duckspeak

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a row of kettles is to be installed at every royal mail depot so that they can also open and read your snail mail ..:)

oh eck i may have accidently given the government another idea


mind you its better than the previous governments idea of installing microphones into street lamps because as we all know terrorists like to gather out in the open under a bright light to discuss acts of terrorism .:rolleyes:

Although i have no doubt we have been monitored in some way for a while now i do think the terrorist card has been almost as over played as the racism card and they cant really justify the extent they intrude on peoples privacy.

if we know that phones are monitored for keywords such as bomb then no terrorist worth his salt would use that word so the whole thing is a pointless exercise and just an excuse for government to abuse power they are given.

it wouldnt surprise me if teh government sold data collected to market research to help pay the debt they keep creating by borrowing money and giving it away ;)

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Drag your mobile behind you on a piece of string.

Speak on the phone in a silly voice.

Don't use the internet, looking for kiddy porn.

If you're making bombs, don't tell too many other people.

Sorted.

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i keep my bomb making as secret as possible so as to ensure a better result than what guy fawks got ;)

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I suggest the following.
You turn your internet off,
Disconnect your phoneline,
Find a job where you get paid in cash,
Live in a caravan,
Live off the grid.
Seeing a few weeks ago you claimed o have had enough of us, you are still here.

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with you posting directly after myself it kinda reads that you are refering to me?

not the case i hope :)

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Accyman, I am so so sorry, no I never meant it to mean you, I was of course referring to our good friend and resident junkie/punk mad etc member Kestralex.
But he seems to have disappeared at the moment.

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Polly Brown - Up In A Puff Of Smoke - [STEREO] - YouTube

Probably done this BG:D

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You should be so lucky! ;)

And how many times- I don't smoke tobacco or dope! :D

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No, but by your own admission you did, Post 337 on the illegal drugs thread.

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Yeh know the old saying B.G. who needs a good memory?:D

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I'm not saying that I didn't smoke it - can't you read?

I said I don't smoke it now! :rolleyes:

Chancellor George Osbourne allegedly has taken cocaine while with call girls -- but he's still doing the countries books!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...interview.html

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Why so much aggression? Is it because you are suffering from cold turkey?
Yes I can read, thanks for asking.

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Actually, thinking about it, it seems you cannot read. I suggested to avoid being spied upon, which you are so concerned about, you disconnect your internet. I am sure the Lamp lighters at the Circus will be very interested in what you have to say.

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What aggression - you seem to be deluded sure your not on LSD! ;)

George Osborne took cocaine: Former prostitute Natalie Rowe repeats drug allegation in TV interview | Mail Online

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Nope, never been near LSD. Not deluded, but thanks for taking a interest

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:D class..George Osbourne snorting coke with "Mistress Pain" :eek:... you are a very naughty boy George :D

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No but you are one;)

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With just a week to go before Google changes to its new privacy policy that allows it to gather, store and use personal information, users have a last chance to delete their Google Browsing History, along with any damning information therein.

Tech News Daily reports that once Google's new unified privacy policy takes effect all data already collected about you, including search queries, sites visited, age, gender and location will be gathered and assigned to your online identity represented by your Gmail and YouTube accounts. After the policy takes effect you are not allowed to opt out without abandoning Google altogether. But now before the policy takes effect, you have the option of deleting your Google Web History by modifying your settings so that Google is unable to associate data collected about you with your Gmail or YouTube accounts.

Tech News Daily reports that Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a nonprofit organization based in San Francisco that advocates for online privacy, says: "Search data can reveal particularly sensitive information about you, including facts about your location, interests, age, sexual orientation, religion, health concerns, and more."

EFF advises all Google users to delete their web history.

Meanwhile, Center for Digital Democracy has filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, asking the Commission to sue Google to stop the policy change. Tech News Daily reports FTC can impose fines up to $16,000 per day for violation.
Daily Mail reports that deleting your browsing history before March 1 when Google's new privacy policy comes into effect will limit Google's ability to track and record your every move online. The process is simple. Follow the steps below:

1. Go to the google homepage and sign into your account.
2. Click the dropdown menu next to your name in the upper-right hand corner of your screen.
3. Click accounts settings
4. Find the "Services section"
5. Under "Services" there is a sub-section that reads "View, enable, disable web history." Click the link next to it that reads: "Go to Web History."
6. Click on "Remove all Web History"

When you click on "Remove all Web History," a message appears that says " Web History is Paused." What this means is that while Google will continue gathering and storing information about your web history it will make all data anonymous, that is, Google will not associate your Web History information with your online accounts and will therefore be unable to send you customized search results.

Google's ability to gather personalized information about you by assigning data to your Gmail and YouTube accounts will remain "Paused" till you click "Resume."

http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz1nWkrzEUv

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Funny that it usually says to me History removed, well it did yesterday:confused:

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I have started using Dogpile as a search engine...instead of Google.......I have no account with youtube....and use it infrequently.

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is dogpile any good ?

do you need night vision goggles to see dogpile ?

if you dont close down dogpile correctly do you get fined ?

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You don't need night vision goggles......you don't get fined....and it doesn't smell.
It isn't as 'frilly' as google, utilitarian I guess you would call it. It does the job(no pun intended). :)

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I thought you were taking the dogpile there, Margaret!

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Me? Would I ? Never!

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Well I've nout to hide so it doesn't bother me really, if anybody wants to know my shopping list, they can hack my weekly email to my daughter:D

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the government want to spy on our computers and some say that if you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about

well i draw my curtains at night and i do this not because i am doing anything illigal i want my privacey just like how i dont want anyone to have my ip address.Im not doing anyting illigal i want my privacey and if the government thinks i am doing something illigal then they should show their evidence to a judge or whatever and get a search warrant just like they would have to if they thought i was doing something illigal in my home.

since 9/11 which didnt even happen in this country our government has placed a blanket of guilt over everyone and somehow this has become accepted.

what happened to the days when proof was needed to establish guilt and most of all what happened to innocent until proven otherwise?

It amazes me how much of our freedom has been taken from us for our own good supposedly.

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Can't remember "Ever" signing in to Google?:confused:

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lol you lost me there matey ?:D

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That is, if 9/11 even happened as the US government wants the world to believe it did. There's quite a bit of evidence piled up to suggest a government conspiracy, you know. ;)

And if we're still talking about 1984, that would bring us right to "War is Peace."

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Me neither:confused:

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You & MargR are going to get on like a house on fire ! :D


Sorry Marg Couldn't resist:)

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Oh my god we got another.:hehetable

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I though that Dave but thought better about posting it, but hey great minds think alike:D

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Shusssssssh its a conspiracy cashy:D

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And fools seldom differ ! (Crashed & burned, best get the digs in before someone else :rolleyes:)

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This new member didn't realise that most here could not cope with finding out the conspiracy theory is fact.

For those not afraid to find out -
AE911Truth.org

The opinion that it was an 'inside job' is no longer a minority view

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It might just be Margaret that most people on here don't actually give a toss about conspiracy theories, I for one am not daft enough to spend what little time I have left on this planet, flitting from website to website trying to find out if people are plotting and scheming, I'd rather watch Flog It:rolleyes:

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Regarding 9/11 - I would like to know how 2 planes brought 3 buildings down , always puzzled me that

As for being spied on well , from leaving my front door I am on camera for the 15 mins it takes to walk in town , What is it with all these cameras! .. any one would think we have a high crime rate

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I am afraid that we will have to disagree on this. After all I fly a 60 Tonne Boeing Aircraft for a living, so might just might know a bit about it.
I have been all over that site, sorry but it was a waste of my time.

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For Heavens sake MargaretR, if you must make these wild statements at least back them up with the facts at your disposal!
So how many million believe it was an inside job, how many million don't?
You must know, you state it as a fact, so tell us.

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You must have a high opinion of the planes you fly.
They can reduce steel girders to dust - not many people know that.:rolleyes:

As I have said recently - I am now into Zen philosophy instead:D
..it is the way I cope with knowing that my government considers me a 'useless eater' and part of the burden of overpopulation.

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oh and did I say I have been to the Window on the World Restaurant, at the top of the WTC in the 90's
Last year we were in New York, on business, the entire crew of our Aircraft visited Ground Zero and the museum.
I will not discuss this further, while I respect your opinion and what you may read on the internet, we will always disagree. Lets try to remember that 3000 people lost their lives that day.

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Margaret, I have a very high opinion of the Baby Boeing I fly, it can only carry 3519 Gallons (UK) of Aviation Kerosene, The Boeing 757's that hit the World Trade Centre can carry 9566 Gallons (UK), that's a awful lot of Flammable Fuel.
I will say no more or use silly smilies, just to try to make others look stupid.

I really do hope the Buddhism works for you Margaret and your flat is sorted out soon

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I respect the fact that you never resort to ridicule- a gentleman!
I read Zen philosophy I do not acknowledge ANY religion.

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One tries, Sorry about that, I try to have a bit of a Buddist outlook. I confused myself. I do so apologise.

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MargaretR, you do give me some boring stuff to read! I've ploughed through it and not one poll gave the 'inside job' by the USA as a majority view!
Please check that your attachments support your wild theories before you post them-it'll save me some boring reading.

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I never said that it was a majority view - just that those 'green sections' in the poll graph can no longer be ascribed to 'a few'

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MargaretR, you're wriggling-you said it was 'no longer a minority view' so its either 50/50 or its a majority view!
Its neither!
Nor did you mention 'green sections' or 'a few'.
Re-read your post and your attachment- you're wrong, admit it!

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If a poll is divided into three opinions of 33% each which is the majority?
We have minority government because less than 50% voted for them.

Any statistics can be interpreted by different people in different ways.
We chose to differ on interpretation.

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Point me to the statistic on your attachment which showed 'The inside job is no longer a minority view'(your exact quote). There isn't one!
It appears your ability to read statistics matches my ability to read Mandarin.
My ability to read statistics matches your ability to read English.

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The biggest issue I have with conspiracy theories, as I've said before, is they're not conspiring very well.

It's all very well, doing all these fantastical things, clandestinely.

Their only problem seems to be keeping all these things secret.

To say they're so successful, they're rubbish at keeping what they do under wraps.

Every Tom, Dick, and Hank Jr. has access to everything they've ever done.

All at the click of a mouse.

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Of the 17 countries polled - 8 had the 'official' version of events accepted by less than 50%.
I see a glass half full - you see a glass half empty - what's the conflict?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ll_Sep2008.png

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ti...u-might-think/

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well im not a conspiracey nut job but i do think 9/11 gave the american government and uk government an excuse to abuse our rights.Hell we even managed to use 9/11 to invade a country that had no connection to the event what so ever .

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Now that I can agree with.

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Its only sense spoken on this issue of late,:rolleyes:

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Gordon as soon as I saw Wikipedia I didn't even bother log onto it, end of story;)

Not everything on wiki is false, just the bits that are relevent to the truth.

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Ya mean the window dressing Less;)

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Perhaps these two are conspiring against the rest of us:eek::rolleyes:

As for the electronic eavesdropping - it has been going on at GCHQ for a very ling time

Which of our Government departments is called 'Google'?

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Just a footnote that if your worried about googole collecting your information after they change their policey your worried a little too late as they have been reading your gmail and googlemail accounts from the very first day they launched them and the same for their browser.Any future amendments to their privacey policey are to tighten up and lessen the chance of them been sued when the rules or privacey change .

just assume if you type anything in google chrome or their email service they pretty much own it and can do what they want with it and show it to who ever they want lol

hushmail are pretty good if you want privacey it seems to be good enough for internet piracey groups and they really dont wanttheir information been handed out lol

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google also got in touble for collecting data from peoples wireless internet routers when they were mapping google earth


it seems google are a bigger threat than teh government lol

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Googles new rules come into force next week (I think) and I read yesterday that only 1 in 8 have read their new info, I know I haven't and to be honest don't think I'll bother, as accyman says its been going on for years anyway

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The google issue is a seperate one, but coincides with this new Government spy program in which internet and phone providers have to keep records for one year and the government have access to them. This so I am told is to make sure non of us are plotting to bomb the Olympics! :eek::rolleyes:

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Ya never know what happens when you've been smoking whacky baccy;)

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Are you deaf? And Blind? I told you I don't smoke whacky backy! ;)

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You wouldn't have unless you have a google account - which I didn't want but because I have a few You Tube accounts they kept hassling me to open a google account. But if you are just using it for searching, maybe they won't have much on you?

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What's this, has Accyweb got sound? No one told me that.

But then, kestrelx, perhaps you're still hearing sounds which aren't really there!

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Thats good to know,i never had n account as far as i remember, 99% sure.:)

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Fact is if there hadn't been a 9/11 then there'd have been no Iraq war! It was 9/11 that was used to persuade people we needed the war - where Blair lied and got away with it = Big Brother!

That is a good point Camros - "Peace is War!" We are close to having 2 way television - the technology is there now to have a TV set/ computer, that monitors the actions of the person or persons in a room.

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Yes Less I read a lot of his books - 1984, Animal Farm, Down and out in Paris and London etc... his real name was Eric Blair! Thanks for the bio...

I have found a site with 1984 in it's entirety - enjoy ;)

George Orwell - 1984 - Part 1, Chapter 1

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH! FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!

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I have a google account and have never signed in, which according to the rep on TV this morning means their new rules won't affect me one little bit, scaremongering over ;)

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Ya slavery to heroin is obviously very debilitating and takes its tole even years after;)

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You seem out of touch with reality mate! :eek: :rolleyes:


google privacy changes - YouTube

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You have a choice, if you don't like what Google do simply choose a different Search Engine, there are lots and lots of them. Of course you could just accept that google will be collecting data and using it across their services.
If you really don't want to be tracked, get rid of your car, mobile phone, bank account and all plastic cards, sell your house and go live in a cave.
Living off the grid is the only way to protect your privacy these days.

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As far as I know using google search engine will not be subject to the collection of personal data.
My understanding of the situation(and it could be I have got hold of the wrong end of the stick) is that if you have a google account and log in......or a Gmail account or a youtube account,google maps...or anyother google affiliated program, then that is when your preferences will be tracked, and data collected.

I use google as a search engine....and dogpile too....so I believe that nothing much will change(I don't have any google accounts that I log into).

To be honest, we are all subjected to so much scrutiny anyway CCTV camera's everywhere......if you have shoppers loyalty cards then you are already being scrutinised for your shopping habits.
We like to think we have privacy, but in reality, we don't have much.

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That's one way of looking at it - I am using Dogpile search engine a lot now instead of Google!

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Ah yes,, but your movements can and are still tracked.
Still if you feel better

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The one thing that really makes me laugh about all this data tracking malarky is the feeble excuse that is usually put forward in justification; namely that it will allow advertisers to offer the consumer who is data tracked, advertising that is more closely tailored to their preferences. I have, as yet, seen not one jot of evidence to support this claim.

Data Tracking and information gathering in general is part of the psychopathy of beurocracy. There is no reasonable justification for most of it. It just, is.

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There's only one person out of touch with reality probably done by previous trips to the silver clouds;)

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well like i said google got in trouble for snooping around in peoples wi-fi networks when they map streets for google earth so with scruples like that its best to take anything that company says as a lie.

i have a gmail account which i set up when gmail was in tirals and i only use it as an address to type into websites when asked for an email address so the spam as a result of it goes to an account i dont care for.Thats about all google are fit for to be used as a diversion for spam lol