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garinda 29-02-2012 20:46
Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Since Councillor Moss has reignited the debate, since his return.

A simple yes/no question.

Should Hyndburn Borough Council have used it's time to support the Pakistani side, rather than India, in the conflict in Kashmir?

This will be a secret poll.

walkinman221 29-02-2012 20:51
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Why should Hyndburn council support either side what has it got to do with them as a local council what would their support or condemnation achieve other than giving propaganda material to either of the protagonists.In other words keep your nose out Hyndburn council.

cashman 29-02-2012 21:13
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Agree wi walkingman, sod all to do wi H.B.C. And rather than a possible vote winner, May well have the direct opposite.:(

garinda 29-02-2012 21:25
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Looking rather one-sided itself, at the moment.

Nevermind.

The councillor mice will be along soon.

To place their secret little votes.

That yes, they were right to do what they did.

:rolleyes:

Michael1954 29-02-2012 21:29
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
The local council should be worrying about local issues, rather than international ones.

mobertol 29-02-2012 21:31
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 974005)
The local council should be worrying about local issues, rather than international ones.
Fairly obvious -strange they should be over-stepping their mandate...

Wrighty 29-02-2012 21:31
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Can we not sack these councillors , for doing a crap job ? :/

garinda 29-02-2012 21:33
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 974007)
Can we not sack these councillors , for doing a crap job ? :/
Only at the ballot box.

;)

Wrighty 29-02-2012 21:39
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974008)
Only at the ballot box.

;)
Who ever is standing against Liebour & Conservative .. I would gladly help em out .. even if its delivering leaflets :D

garinda 29-02-2012 21:51
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 974009)
Who ever is standing against Liebour & Conservative .. I would gladly help em out .. even if its delivering leaflets :D

Tactical voting may be the only way, to make them understand your views.

Unhappy with a M.P., who says he supports democracy, then votes to deny you that democratic right?

Oust them.

Split their vote.

I am.

No longer will Labour have my support.

UKIP will.

Angry that someone elected to represent you on a local council, is involving themselves with highly contentious international issues?

Oust them.

Split their vote.

Decide who else standing is most likely to unseat them.

Make your view count.

Wrighty 29-02-2012 22:01
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974012)
Tactical voting may be the only way, to make them understand your views.

Unhappy with a M.P., who says he supports democracy, then votes to deny you that democratic right?

Oust them.

Split their vote.

I am.

No longer will Labour have my support.

UKIP will.

Angry that someone elected to represent you on a local council, is involving themselves with highly contentious international issues?

Oust them.

Split their vote.

Decide who else standing is most likely to unseat them.

Make your view count.
It has to be done! ... it is definitely time we had a change

gynn 01-03-2012 06:34
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Which bit of:-

“That this Council supports the Kashmiri community here in Hyndburn and the peoples of Jammu and Kashmir to bring about genuine initiatives aimed at ending the violence and suffering and in favour of a just and lasting peace settlement and that the British government should not itself prescribe any one solution to the problem of Kashmir, It resolutely opposes all forms of terrorism and violence, including the use of abduction, torture, murder and rape as instruments in any political cause and calls on all sides in this dispute to condemn such incidents and to observe in full, international standards of human rights and the right of the people of Jammu and Kashmir to determine their own future in a free, fair and transparent manner. The Council welcomes the helpful dialogue between the Hyndburn MP, Graham Jones, and those seeking the right to Kashmiri self-determination. The Council resolves to write to the Foreign Office Minister to bring his attention to this issue.“


says the Council is taking sides? :confused::confused::confused:

gynn 01-03-2012 06:47
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Surely the resolution is aimed at urging ALL sides to sort out the problem?

Ken Moss 01-03-2012 07:13
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gynn (Post 974047)
Surely the resolution is aimed at urging ALL sides to sort out the problem?
Thanks Gynn, first sensible post I've heard on the subject.

garinda 01-03-2012 07:35
Re: Should Hyndburn be supporting Pakistan in Kashmir?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gynn (Post 974044)
Which bit of:-

“That this Council supports the Kashmiri community here in Hyndburn and the peoples of Jammu and Kashmir to bring about genuine initiatives aimed at ending the violence and suffering and in favour of a just and lasting peace settlement and that the British government should not itself prescribe any one solution to the problem of Kashmir, It resolutely opposes all forms of terrorism and violence, including the use of abduction, torture, murder and rape as instruments in any political cause and calls on all sides in this dispute to condemn such incidents and to observe in full, international standards of human rights and the right of the people of Jammu and Kashmir to determine their own future in a free, fair and transparent manner. The Council welcomes the helpful dialogue between the Hyndburn MP, Graham Jones, and those seeking the right to Kashmiri self-determination. The Council resolves to write to the Foreign Office Minister to bring his attention to this issue.“


says the Council is taking sides? :confused::confused::confused:
The original motion, reported that Hyndburn B.C. voted to support, and used around the world, by terrorist supporting propagandists....

'That this Council supports the Kashmir community here in Hyndburn in condemning the atrocities committed and acts of barbaric violence by Indian Forces in Indian occupied Kashmir which has resulted in women been gang raped, children lined up and shot dead in front of their parents, people been torched and set on fire in their jail cells.'

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...to_Council.pdf

Besides, this poll really asks the question, should a local council spend any of it's time, concerning itself with any international issues.

The answer to that, despite the glib response from Cllr. Moss, seems to be a resounding 'No!'.


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